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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    166

    teenage kids can be so cruel and oblivious to parents realities of money and health.

    teenage children can be so oblivious to the realities of their parents finances and health.

    i raised a bunch of kids on my own
    with an ex that didnt pay child support
    and dragged me through court for years to avoid it
    i was already quite burnt out from overworking for decades during the marriage as he was a conartist and would trick me into signing for his huge debts
    and so i was forced to overwork for years and live in poverty paying off his continuous huge debts that in fact were supporting a partying double life, while he would tell me he was working he was actually partying

    i see how oblivious my kids are to my exhaustion, and the lack of money and what i carried all these years alone

    some kids were troubled or sick from the huge trauma we went through from my ex, stress comes out in different ways i had exhaustion migraines stomache aches other of the kids had other ways it came out in, eg anorexia

    one teen was trying to work a little bit as a teen but then wasnt reliable in reportingtheir earnings so centrelink would stop their payments as a teen and i would ahve to support them totally with no health no money and so so so much extra. it was crushing the weight of wht i was carrying physically emotionally and financially all those years and my health showed it for years,
    other of my kids screwed me in other ways, just simply taking their youth allowance as if it was something for teens to spend on themselves at a whim while i was tryign to support everything, clothes, school books, uni books, groceries , with no income, no health no contributing, the whole workload of several kids on me, no cleaning help, and a huge burden of a bunch of kids and alot of stress.my health was constnatly collapsing from so so much ongoing huge stress from all sides

    now one of my youngest ones was about to do similar, take their youth allowance to spend at their whim while i am supporting them more than i can.
    i had just paid thousands, more than i can afford for her to have all she needed for vce,- books, study guides, tutoring, (the tutoring alone was $425 for summer courses next week ,) for clothes, for social for the summer and a youth camp she belongs to , and now suddenly because legally she can get a hold of her youth allowance, she is taking it despite that i am the one paying for more than i can afford to for her.

    i saw how oblivious my other kids are. one tonight said things like
    ' thats what a parent does,'
    totally oblivious to the fact that i'm not a bank and the realities of how much i just paid out without even a proper income and how shocking it is tht now that child wants to take their youth allowance away to spend at a whim while i have just paid out so much for her.
    its bad enough being alone and one one income but its not even one average income.

    she said things like
    'well other parents take jobs'
    totally oblivious to what it was like all those years with alot of kids on my own
    burn out
    health problems from stress
    a few kids with huge health or behavioural problems
    being dragged through courts for years by an ex avoiding child support, which by the way he got away with, child support just say oh well, they dont teach these guys that if they avoid paying child support that it will catch up with them no matter how many years later they are caught, so i got the raw end and burden whichever way i turned.
    no money
    huge stresses from kids eg anorexia etc huge huge stresses that one of them would have b roken most people and was so huge for me let alone so much at once.

    recently as kids recently grew older and started moving out, when i had less kids in the house i could do more re work etc but still on a one less than averagell income with a big mortgage and more kids at home than i can afford to support, who dont contribute to expenses and one has been also sick in hospital, the burden on me is enormous, and their comments add salt to my wounds they just shows no realisation of realities and how hard it was and has been all these years from so many sides
    there are memories that are so heavy to experience and recover from, and i can see they are so oblivious to it all,
    like when my son was sick and i had so many expenses and yet i was not getting the youth allowance to suppport him, just because legally kids can and do do that and parents then are left to suffer from all sides.

    one of my daughters who made these comments has no realisation the toll her behavior or not reporting to centrelink and then losing her centrelink and me having to support her totally and her anorexia took on me and i can see she still doesnt

    she herself recently had a breakdown after trying to raise her one young child alone despite her having huge help from family around her which i never ever had and i had several kids to raise alone
    she herself has started experiencing a bit of being dragged through court and the toll it takes
    i can see i was even now still putting myself under huge pressures tryign to releive her and take her shopping for groceries and clothes for herslef and the baby, when i truly cant afford it to do this. i cant afford it and she is so oblivious to realities.its extremely extremely upsetting
    themedia made a huge fuss about the aged pension not being enough but seem to be oblivious about the sole parent pension and how thats not enough
    i had 5 kids in my home a year ago that i was trying to support on less than 20 000 with a mortgage aswell. i just wanted to die all the time from the pressure
    and yet they will treat me so badly putting more and more pressure on me just because legally they can, while i am left to pay for so much without the support that gov give to pay for it all. its extremely upsetting.

    people have said my kids learnt how to abuse me from my ex. its not just my ex its also my mother who does things like buy expensive presents for people then she finds ways to put pressure on me that she doesnt ahve enough money
    my mother often has been a psychopath enjoying watching me in torment and encouraging others to torment me and i so often wanted to die from the torment she puts me through at times, totally non sensical, but if she sees it torments me she pushes harder rather than backs off.
    she now is putting pressure on me because she offered to pay a lawyer to get back my daughters child for her after she gave it up during a breakdown. the lawyer cost 30 000.
    How does that make me more able to live on less and to be screwed taht she uses that as justification to put me under more pressure if she offers to pay 30 000 for a lawyer that doesnt somehow mean i have more income suddenly and can be put under more pressure just because she offered to put herself under more pressure.

    the realities of what i go through and how much i give and give and give more than i can and then how abusive and selfish teens are not even realising any of the realities is very upsetting for me.
    Last edited by sue1386; January 15th, 2010 at 01:16 AM.

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    5,235

    Sorrythings are so hard for you - teenagers have the selfish gene inbuilt and until they one day have to fend for themselves in the real world, they don't get it. Sometimes I think it would be great if we start of mature and go backwards in life then start off life remembering what it was like to be older!
    As for the youth allowance, if she knows she can get her hands on it, well thats it, don't provide one cent for anything that wants personally and only fork out for school supplies etc.

  3. #3
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    May 2005
    in the national capital
    1,682

    Sorry that it is all a bit too much for you at the moment Sue.

    Can I suggest that counselling for you would be a great idea. It sounds like you have a lot of things to deal with at the moment and even if it doesn't change the way that other's treat you it may be a really good way for you to get some tools to help you deal with it all.

    Wishing you luck.

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    166

    thanks for your understanding comment about teens. some have been worse than others.
    i heard a saying about get them out before they turn bitter that later in their 20s they turn bitter. unfortunately i have a few who are troubled and at the slightest thing they will turn nasty on me, because i'm there, even though i've been working my guts out and giving and giving so so so much all these decades in such terrible circumstances.

    oprah has a financial counselling suze orman who says how sole parents give everything away physcially emotionally financially and then have nothing for themselves. she advises not to do that. i cant see how one cant do that but surely there are limits even to the constnat need to give and give and give so that they have all they need.

    because i dont hav ea father or husband to stand up for me my kid shave learnt that they can treat me any which way and get away with it and there is nothing i can do . the things they have put me through are mind boggling and hard to forgive or recover from, but i just have to keep knowing that i didnt deserve that at all quite the opposite , but they were troubled.
    as i wrote in my last post my grandmother was like that. my mother was so horrible to her and yet when she could help she still would she was so loving despite how she was always treated. i dotn want to be like that , but i am, because i know they are troubled.
    but i can no longer buy one daughter with a baby groceries clothes etc because i do need to pay my mortgage and support younger ones.
    counselling always sound slike the noble correct way.

    you obviously havent read my last post.

    i have done heaps of counselling over the years.
    i am not giving more years of my life to that because of selfish dramas and hell my kids cause me
    i didnt find it changed the course of anything and it just was draining and stressful.

    i have found what works for me
    getting on with my life and things that were on hold for so many years while i was raising so many kids like work social peace anything my own life, - and things i find pick up my health works best for me not counselling.
    i will seek some advice when thigns come up but i have not found regular counselling helpful and it took up time and energy for other thigns that help more, like just getting on with it.

    in my family i have very little rights.
    there are many troubled people including my mum and they all work against me
    they threatened, double cross , blackmail me.
    the thing that helps me most is when my kids move out of my house
    my own clarity
    getting on with my life
    doing thigns that relax me or help my life my finances my health
    and trying not to get so distraught by the constant heart breaking things that i cant stop in my selfish manipulative nasty family.
    and then deciding if i will still give while they are troubled horrible people to me, because they need support, even though they at times make my life hell.

    read my last post and you will get the answer recounselling. and how i've done heaps over the years it didnt change anything
    so i do seek advice, maybe speak to a counsellor, parentline or such is great, but regular appointments, giving my life to that , no thanks, i am not giving my life away more years becasue of people around me.
    i did so much for years , and the thing that helped most was when they moved out, not anything else that i spent time and money on.

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Middle Victoria
    8,924

    if you were willing, and wanting to work on it, counselling may help you become less of a victim. It sounds like you have had a hard time, but you need to decide what you are willing to put up with, and to not accept other types of behaviour. If your kids want their youth allowance, then they also get to pay for some of their educational expenses.

    good luck

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Apr 2009
    in the garden
    3,767

    Sorry Sue, I did read your last post but I didn't see anything there saying you had tried counselling.. I will go back & look again.

    because i dont hav ea father or husband to stand up for me my kid shave learnt that they can treat me any which way and get away with it and there is nothing i can do . the things they have put me through are mind boggling and hard to forgive or recover from, but i just have to keep knowing that i didnt deserve that at all quite the opposite , but they were troubled.
    You need to teach them that they can't treat you like that... being troubled is no excuse for disrespecting your family. If you allow 'being troubled' to be an excuse they will continue to do it. Same goes for your mother. If she's tormenting you - it might be time to step away. You don't need it, and as you say, you don't deserve it.

    I really hope things get better for you soon.
    Good luck

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Apr 2009
    in the garden
    3,767

    wow, you really have had a tough time over the last few years. Teenagers can be a bit blind to what life is like for their parents, I see it in my teenage DD - and I also remember what I was like at her age! They just see things differently, and yes they can be very selfish. Might be time for a bit of tough love?

    Chances are once they grow up a bit, they will see what you have done for them & have some gratitude...you may well find it all turns around for the better in a few years

    ETA - second what Muppity said on the counselling , good idea