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Senior Campus allowing students to smoke
The senior campus of my boys High School allows the students to smoke during recess and lunchtime in a designated area. Apparently students were leaving the class to go and have a cigarette. I'm not for the idea, just wondering what your opinions of this are?
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Dianne
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Well...schools grounds are smoke free by law. Even the teachers have to leave the grounds to smoke. They're also promoting underage smoking. I worked in a place that sold cigarettes, if I was caught selling them to someone under age OR to someone who was going to provide them to someone under age I would be fined. I think it's totally and utterly WRONG. It should be reported.
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What is the legal age for smoking?
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It is illegal to sell tobacco to anyone under 18. It is also illegal purchase it on behalf of anyone under 18. I don't believe there is a legal age for smoking though.
I found this on the legal aid website:
Until you are 18 no-one is allowed to sell you cigarettes or tobacco, buy cigarettes or tobacco for you, or let you buy cigarettes or tobacco from a machine on their premises. However, it is not against the law to smoke or carry cigarettes or tobacco if you are under 18.
Last edited by Tinks; February 22nd, 2011 at 04:56 PM. : adding quote
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is it a public school?
it is illegal to smoke on government property.
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I was under the impression that the legal age to smoke is 16, but you can't buy them until your 18, and its illegal to buy them for an under 18...
stupid crazy law.... but you can thank big tobacco for that one!
Schools should be smoke free and there should be zero tolerance.... what next, they going to have a designated drinking area too?
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It's not a terrible idea but not great either.
On the other hand do you get them to go and see a GP on their own, to get patches under the new scheme where patches are on the PBS?
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That is disgraceful! Their is nothing acceptable about smoking.
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I agree, wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!
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A local school tried this with it's seniors and the name the school ended up with was not good. A new principal came in, introduced uniforms and banned smoking. The turn around was incredible the school now has a good name.
It is a gov't place so it's against the law to smoke on the property.
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ARE YOU SERIOUS! Far out, I was disgusted when I learnt the high school which would have been my boys high school if we had not moved state sold coffee to the kids. Coffee!
But allowing students to smoke! I am just gobsmacked!!!
Oh & just to be a bit narkyYep that sounds real attractive.it's not difficult for a reasonably attractive young girl to sit outside the corner shop with a pocketful of spare change and find a sympathetic older bloke to go in and buy a packet of ciggies for you...
Im sure you can look back on it & see the same.. But really Teenagers don't look cool or attractive hanging around outside shops begging for older people to buy them smokes. they look pathetic.
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I'm pretty sure that what looks attractive to you and what looks attractive to a 'sympathetic' older man are different things.
Personally I thought that there was a lot of wisdom in Glam's post.
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Sorry but that just doesn't even sound right.
There is no way the school would provide designated on campus smoking areas of the school - it is illegal for one, and doesn't make any sense.
I would be questioning this friend of your sons.
We smoked on campus, but while the teachers did what they could to discourage it, there were also areas the teachers didn't venture regularly - it was never condoned nor acceptable though and they most certainly did not set up designated areas where it was allowed.
I think your sons friend is full of the proverbial.
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Glamourcide: I think if a student was as addicted as you were and smoking 20+ a day, the school would have a duty of care to help you. This is obviously very dangerous for a young persons health. I think allowing this behaviour would be consciously allowing a student to self harm.
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It's a shame those kids started smoking in the first place. The issue of kids starting to smoke should be addressed not how to facilitate their addiction after they have one. I feel the same about harder drugs, alcohol and gambling. If they do want to help the ones who smoke how about educating them, after all school is for education isn't it? Or how about putting them into a sporting class which isn't optional so they can feel their lung capacity improve or how hard it's become to actually 'breath' from smoking.
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If I found out my kids school were allowing other kids to smoke around MY kids, when we dont allow it here at home, I would be murderous.
And I would also almost guarantee more kids would take it up, if it was "ok" to smoke. How bloody stupid.. we spend millions on "Quit" programs, and then give them free reign, whilst still only chidren, to go ahead and do it anyway.
Stupid. Why not just get some crack rooms, a sex cell and a bar at the same time, throw all common sence out the window and let them do as they please.....
Thank god my kids Catholic school will never implement this.
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Yes, I was going to say what about the 2nd and 3rd hand smoke? It's one thing for a kid to pollute their own lungs, it's quite another to subject the non-smokers around them to it too.
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*shakes head* I just don't get it - Why would they want to promote such a horrible unhealthy addictive habit?
I understand what you are saying Glam, But i really think they should be going the other way, in offering patches and quit programs, etc to help with the addiction not promote it.
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