no father on birth cert. Centrelink wont pay until someone is on there help

[LimeSlice]

Bee - the birth certificate is a legal document designed to be very difficult to change and to record all the particulars required for identifying someone through out their life.
It is never as simple as "oh we will just change it" - that would defeat the purpose of the document in the first place.
I understand your fears, but be aware that this one document will follow this child and indeed your family long after you are dead and gone...It is a document intended to still identify this person long after their own death and establish family connections etc.

It is unusual for a statutory rape offender i these circumstances to actually go to jail. He will be registered as a sex offender though - that would be my main concern. They don't discriminate about that. (If the parents press charges)
Like I said though, I will find out some details for you and get back to you.

[GlitterMum]

Hey LS,
I agree with you 100% and that is why he wants to be on the birth cert. He is my brothers lil boy and he is perfect.
We all want to be a part of his life.
I am petrified he will go to jail because he would not last a minute. He has the mentality of a 15 year old.
He has gone out and got a job so he can support his GF (He is not allowed to see her anymore only the baby) and his lil boy.
He is doing the right thing. Bought her everything she needs, ie capsule so her mum can drive them around, cot, matress, clothes, bottles, nappies, formula you name it he has bought it. He got a loan from my dad so he could make sure she has all she needed.

If you could get back to me from talking to whoever you need to that would be so great.
Thanks again

B

[GlitterMum]

Tash there are alot of underlying circumstances.
Thanks for your input though

[rhyb]

Hopefully this works out for everyone and I would be very proud of your brother providing for his son regardless the circumstances.

[LionsandBears]

B - sorry if I was too harsh

I hope it all works out for them

[Trillian]

They have 60 days to register his birth, so they have a bit of time up their sleeve to seek the proper legal advice before registering it because it will be much easier in the long run to get it right the first time than to change it later and I think they owe it to their son to do the right thing and not hide it like it is something to be ashamed of. If it takes a little time to get all the legal advice sorted out before they can apply for centrelink money she will still be back paid so she wont lose out, but she will just have to wait for it. I assume that her parents were supporting her up to this point anyway considering her age so surely they can support both of them now just for that litle bit longer till this is all sorted. Plus your brother is making every effort to help too which is great.

And yes, like Tashybabe said you just can't run the risk of doing it that way and then being dobbed in because the penalities are quite harsh and that's the last thing they need to deal with.

But most of all just make sure that they know you have their back and will help them sort it out because I can only imagine how she must be feeling to have copped what she did from the staffer at c'link and be told all sorts of things that would make her feel like she's done something really terrible kwim?

[CrazyLady]

Hopefully this works out for everyone and I would be very proud of your brother providing for his son regardless the circumstances.

Sounds like his 15 year old mentality has gone up a bit! Hope everything's going well!

[GlitterMum]

Thanks Rhyab and Charlottesmum
he has realised what his actions have done and is doing everything he possible can.

[Muppity]

He has the mentality of a 15 year old.

OK - if this is the case and it has been documented by properly qualified people then it isn't an issue. Even if someone did decide to get involved and press charges then he would probably be found not liable. I would think that the whole not telling anyone would also work to his advantage in this situation - he clearly isn't thinking like an adult.

I am more concerned about why he isn't allowed to see his GF anymore. Who has put this ban in place and why did they do it?

Also, seriously, in this day and age not putting his name on the birth certificate will not actually mean to anything and I think it would count against him. All it would take is a DNA test to show paternity and if he is then asked why he wasn't listed as the father and he said it was so he didn't get into trouble then it isn't going to sit well with a judge.

I wish your whole family the very best

[Epacris]

I have no advice but I just want to send your family some love, warmth and support as your work through this difficult time.

[GlitterMum]

Thanks muppity,
The girls father has requested they not see each other. My brother can see his baby just not his girlfriend. I understand this completely as he works up north and has not been home to see if his daughter is ok.
My brother wants to go on the birth cert but cries himself to sleep every night, walks around like a zombie and cries at the smallest things cause you can see the fear in him. He has constontly been throwing up every day and is a complete mess.

I have seen his girlfriend and bubs and she is fine (as best as she could be) she is enrolled in the same school her 2 sisters go to ( one is 17 and one is 18 with 2 year olds each). she starts on Monday and cant wait because it is a school for teenage mums, they go to school upstairs then at lunch time come down and have lunch with there babies.
The same day she gave birth she told me and my dp that that was all she wanted to do, go to school with her baby.

i feel so sick at the thought that she wanted to be like her sisters, but i cant help but wonder.

Just needed to get it out sorry.


Thanks for the hugs Epacris

[Muppity]

Oh Bee - I am just so sorry - this story just keeps getting worse. Everyone wants to be like their big sister at some stage - but really!

I can only suggest that your bro follows her father's instructions to the letter - but it sounds like he is doing this anyway.

Hugs to you all.

[GlitterMum]

Thanks muppity, i dont want to think the worst in her but ......................
I cant help but wonder.
She is only a baby herself and wouldnt of realised the impact of this baby that they both made.
It is looking more like a vicious cycle that her family is in. Her mum had her older sister at 14, her sister had her baby at 16, then the next sister had one at 15 and now her at 14.

My brother will not do anything out of line. he is sticking to what her dad says to the letter.

Lulu: My brother wants legal rights to the baby and is happy to support him. he is not trying to run away from this in any way. if you get it confirmed ie

Originally Posted by "tashybabe [*]If your brother is not on the birth certificates, he has no legal rights to the child."

Can you please let me know.
We all (My family) want to be a part of this babies life. We love him. My older sister has just had a lil boy 9 weeks ago and I am due in 10 weeks (a boy as well). They will be cousins and should be in each others life.

It is not fair to punish the innocent child and not let him have the love of his extended family.


xx
B

[Lulu]

Oh B - I get that loud and clear from your posts xoxoxoxo

On a separate level I want that statement sorted. that's all