The boy has breached the Undertaking

[diannescruffy]

Via Facebook, he has answered a not so nice quiz about DS. It is not real nasty but just the fact that he has done this proves my initial point about the promise his mother wanted me to accept. An Undertaking is a promise to the Court so how would he keep a promise to me? I will bring this up in Court.

Regards,
Dianne

[kawazuki]

hugs hun

this is just stupid, obvious the boys mum doesn't ahve any influence over him.
if i was his mum id be cutting out any temptation

[LimeSlice]

Totally uncool!

But what on earth is he still doing unblocked from yours or your sons facebook???

[LimeSlice]

Totally uncool!

But what on earth is he still doing unblocked from yours or your sons facebook???

[Kazbah]

Totally uncool!

But what on earth is he still doing unblocked from yours or your sons facebook???

Very sucky, but LS has a good point there ...

[Beatrix]

hun what you are doing is facebook stalking...

and is wrong, I know you are only doing it to be protective but it can and will be used against you. Cyber stalking is a big deal now.

You really need to block him

hope this issue is sorted soon

[diannescruffy]

DS has him blocked, a mutual friend of theirs has seen it and told DS.

Regards,
Dianne

[Calluna]

If it's the application I'm thinking of- you answer random questions about random friends and then the friend the question was about gets a post on thier wall.
Hope that makes sense....
So she wouldn't have had to look at his profile to see it. But her DS would have to be friends with the boy.

Dianne- I agree with the others in that you need to block him from yours and DS's accounts though

ETA- guess it's not the one I thought then...

[PumpkinZulu]

Also, why not go one further and delete him, not just block. I mean, I can't see all of this blowing over one day and your DS and him will want to be friends again. If your DS isn't on his friends list (blocked or not) the application cannot access your DS profile to put him in the random questions in the first place, problem solved. If this boy has such an issue with being a decent person, may as well take away all temptation for him to hurt you or your DS.

[*LittleMissSummer*]

This is why i dont think teenagers should be using these sorts of websites.

My 14 yo niece is having issues with girls hacking into her FB, bebo and other networking sites and saying hideous horrible things about her and sending messages pretending to be her to other people which caused a huge fight at school.

Some parents just dont care what their kids get up to online.

hope it blows over soon.

[diannescruffy]

I'm not sure how it works, DS has this boy blocked but obviously the boy still has DS on his friends list. I will get DS to delete him altogether when he gets home.

Regards,
Dianne

[PumpkinZulu]

Yep definately get DS to simply delete him, like I said, I can't see the point in keeping any form of contact with him, this boy will clearly just abuse it.

[diannescruffy]

If DS deletes him will he be removed from the boys friends list or would the boy have to also delete DS?

Regards,
Dianne

[PumpkinZulu]

Nope, as soon as your DS deletes him, your DS will be removed from this kids FB also. Combine that with being blocked, and make sure your DS does not share any mutual friends on FB (it says whether he does or not if you go to this kids FB page when logged in as your DS, there will be a box above the normal friends box with 'mutual friends'), and there is no way he can get to him, learn anything about your DS life or anything via FB.

[Just Me]

If he is blocked from your DS's facebook he is automatically deleted as his friend. It is not strictly true that once someone is blocked they can't access you at all

Blocking allows you to prevent most interactions with someone on Facebook. People you block won't be able to find you in searches, view your profile, or contact you with pokes, Wall posts, or personal messages. In addition, they will not be able to see your Wall posts, comments on mutual friends’ Walls, or that you are a member of the same group as them.

They will, however, see your comments on content that is posted by a mutual friend. You will see their comments as well.

and

If you block a user, some content that they posted before you blocked them will remain on your profile and on other areas of the site. This content includes:
■Messages in your Inbox (You will not be able to click to view the blocked user’s profile).
■Wall posts the user had previously made on your Wall.
■Stories about the blocked user that are posted on your mutual friends’ Walls (e.g., If the blocked friend tagged one of your mutual friends in a photo).
■Photos that both the blocked user and one or more mutual friends are tagged in.
■Groups that the blocked user has created. (You can still request to join these groups. The name of the blocked user will appear as a "Creator" and will show up in black, but the user will not show up in the list of officers).
■Photos previously tagged of you by the blocked user.
■Messages that the blocked user sends to a thread that you are both a part of.
■Messages that the blocked user sends to a group of which they are an admin and you are a member.
■Invitations to an event that is affiliated with a group in which the blocked user is an admin and you are a member.
■Comments made by the blocked user on a photo that was added by a mutual friend.
■Photos the blocked user adds to a group you are both in.

I would say that if you want to use that kind of thing in court, you may need to get a signed statement from the friend that saw it on FB with info about the kind of quiz it is and the date the quiz was done. If the quiz was done before your son blocked this person, then it may just be automatically generated and it might not be an issue. Do you have a lawyer or a legal advisor because I would probably talk to them about it.

I think the relevance of what the boy posted on FB would also have to do with whether the behaviour is seen as bullying or inciting bullying. If it is stirring up trouble then it might be relevant, but the courts may not have any jurisdiction to stop this boy from ever mentioning your son or talking about him to others. There is only a certain amount they can do and they can't completely control all the actions of another person - they need to give him reasonable freedom as well.

Sorry, I am not actually sure what has gone on between your son and this boy so some of this might be irrelevant.

If abusive behaviour over FB continues, FB recommends the following:

■Report Abusive Behavior Directly to Facebook

The most efficient way to report abuse is to do it in the same place it occurs on Facebook. For example, if you receive a harassing message in your Inbox, you can report the message by clicking on the "Report" link next to the sender's name as you are reading the message. If you receive a harassing message from a person who is a Facebook friend of yours, you should remove the person as a friend and report the message. Reporting the message as harassing will automatically add this person to your Block list. You can also use the "Report/Block person" link that appears at the bottom of the abusive user's profile. If you learn that someone is continuing to make abusive comments about you even after you've blocked them, you can ask a friend to report that person on your behalf. Reports are confidential and the user being reported does not know that they have been reported. After a report is submitted, we will investigate the issue and make a determination as to whether or not the content should remain on the site based on our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. A Facebook administrator looks into each report thoroughly before taking action. Please note that our team makes it a priority to respond to reports of harassing messages on the site.

■Restrict Privacy Settings

To restrict the amount of information that potential bullies may have access to, customize your privacy settings so that certain people can't access information like your Wall, photos, or profile. You can also change your privacy settings if you are uncomfortable being found in searches or having your profile viewed publicly. Privacy on Facebook is controlled primarily from the Privacy Settings page. This page is always available by navigating to the "Privacy Settings" option in the Account drop-down menu available from the top of every page. Please note that minors do not have public search listings created for them, so they do not appear in outside search engines until they have turned 18.

[AliBaby]

DO NOT DELETE OR BLOCK HIM YET.

You want all the evidence you can on him. You need to get some screen prints done of what this boy has been saying. Try and get the friend to do it if your son cant.

The more chance this kid has to stuff up the better it is for you guys IYKWIM. Kind of like keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

After this has all gone through court then do all of the above with blocking, etc.

In a way in cases like this you really want this boy to say something incriminating himself and then have evidence of it.

[LimeSlice]

It isn't bullying if your son can't see it, hear it, or be bothered by it.

So as long as he is deleted and blocked, the boy can say whatever he likes about whomever he likes.
I really don't get why people do this - block him, delete him, and move on to the important things - like protecting your home and your son physically from this kid.

[PumpkinZulu]

It isn't bullying if your son can't see it, hear it, or be bothered by it.



So as long as he is deleted and blocked, the boy can say whatever he likes about whomever he likes.

I really don't get why people do this - block him, delete him, and move on to the important things - like protecting your home and your son physically from this kid.

yep, agreed 100% And fwiw, deletung him does in fact get rid of all interaction, and keeping him blocked ensures he cannot find or contact your ds.