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thread: Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

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    Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    DS started off with a dairy intolerance at our last allergy test. Now it feels like full blown dairy allergy. Lately I've noticed he is complaining of a sore stomach a lot and he gets diarrhea. He also seems to be sick all the time, meaning his immunity is rock bottom. He has asthma as well recently put on medication for his non stop coughing.

    Has anyone had a similar thing, with their child being allergic to soy as well? I've heard of it but being nearly 6, I thought it would've cropped up before now? Does it also mean a switch to rice milk? He's going to hate that

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    My DS2 has a milk intolerance, his is a bit unusual with condition. We have also been advised to avoid soy as well. As with his condition most kids who don't tolerate dairy, do not tolerate soy also.

    Coconut milk is another alternative or almond milk if he doesn't have a nut allergy. We don't use Rice Milk as DS2 hated it. He takes a calcium supplement and has a good diet of vegetables so hopefully we have covered our bases.

    We buy a coconut milk icecream that he loves..brand is either Coyo or Cocolusious.

    It sounds hard initially being dairy and soy intolerant, it does get easier as you find products they like that can substitute foods they loved.

    I started off at an excellent Gluten Free shop, it is amazing what you can get.

    I would go back to your allergist that originally picked up the allergy to dairy and discuss it with them.

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    My son (and in hindsight my daughter) has Cows milk protein intolerance. He was on a prescription formula for this as shocking reflux. We then weaned to soy, which he tolerated well. However, from my research majority of babies who react to dairy also react to soy. Im not sure about older kids though.

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    Jan 2006
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    It's actually quite common, yeah.
    He doesn't *have* to have milk, if you can get calcium elsewhere. Good luck!

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    Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    Any suggestions on ways to get calcium instead of a supplement? Or do you use a supplement as well?

    I just can't help but feel sorry for him. And it's tough explaining his allergies on a daily basis. I know he'll get used to it in time. It's just not much fun now.

    What do you give your kids instead?

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    I googled and stole this list from elsewhere

    Speciality foods

    Carrot juice, fresh 57
    Fish, canned salmon eaten with bones 440
    Fish, canned sardines or mackeral eaten with bones 569
    Molasses, blackstrap 2820, 176.2 per tablespoon
    Molasses, unsulphured 672, 42 per tablespoon
    Sesame butter (unhulled sesame seeds) 1022, 63.9 per tablespoon
    Sesame butter/ tahini from hulled or decorticated seeds 315.2, 19.7 per tablespoon
    Soy beverage, unfortified 9.8
    Soy beverage, calcium-fortified variable, check nutrition information; approx 200
    Tofu, firm, prepared with calcium 1721
    Tofu, regular, prepared with nigari, 260
    Vegetarian support nutritional yeast, variable, check nutrition information

    Dark green leafy vegetables Many dark green leafy vegetables have relatively high calcium concentrations. The calcium in spinach is however, somewhat poorly absorbed, probably because of the high concentration of oxalate. The study revealed that kale, a low-oxalate vegetable, is a good source of bioavailable calcium. Kale is a member of the same family that includes broccoli, turnip greens, collard greens and mustard greens. These low-oxalate, calcium-rich vegetables are therefore also likely to be better sources of available calcium

    cooked turnip greens 450
    cooked bok choy 330
    cooked collards 300
    cooked spinach 250
    cooked kale 200
    parsley 200
    cooked mustard greens 180
    dandelion greens 150
    romaine lettuce 40
    head lettuce 10

    Sprouts

    soy 50
    mung 35
    alfalfa 25

    Sea vegetables (seaweed)(dried powdered form)

    nori 1,200
    kombu 2,100
    wakame 3,500
    agar-agar 1,000, 62.5 per tablespoon

    Beans and Peas (cooked, ready to eat)

    navy beans 140
    soybeans 130
    pinto beans 100
    garbanzo beans 95
    lima, black beans 60
    lentils 50
    split peas 20

    Grains

    tapioca (dried) 300
    brown rice, cooked 20
    quinoa, cooked 80
    corn meal, whole grain 50
    rye flour, dark 40
    oats 40
    tortillas, corn, calcium fortified (2) 120
    tortillas, flour or unfortified (2) 23
    whole wheat flour 50

    Seafood

    raw oysters 240
    shrimp 300
    salmon with bones 490
    mackerel with bones 600
    sardines with bones 1,000

    Seeds

    almonds 750
    hazelnuts (filbert) 450
    walnuts 280
    sesame seeds (whole, unhulled) 2,100
    sunflower seeds 260


    The following herbs contain variable amounts of calcium:

    borage, lamb's quarter, wild lettuce, nettles, burdock, yellow dock

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    Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    Thanks MadB. That's very interesting. Will look into it

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    You could also look into the GAPS diet? I don't give ds cows or soy milk, he's still breastfeeding and I've just started giving him rice milk in the last couple of weeks. As MaB has shown, dairy milk isn't the be all and end all of calcium sources.

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    Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    I looked up his requirements. 700mg of calcium per day. He wouldn't eat salmon with bones and he's allergic to nuts. I struggle to come up with the requirement. Any ideas?

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    Re: Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    tofu is super easy to cook and can be very tasty. salty or sweet, my kids love chocolate mousse made with soft tofu, honey, cocoa and melted chocolate all whizzed up together.

    would your LO eat sushi. its easy and u can make so many diff types

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    Re: Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    as pp have suggested, i would look into a good probiotic for him. nourishing traditions and gaps are also good

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    Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    No, he wouldn't eat sushi. I've tried and he's not into it. How do I get non soy or dairy chocolate? Tofu mousse sounds good!

    How does a probiotic help? Excuse my stupidity!

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    If you read the GAPS & Nourishing Traditions book or search for them online there's loads of information out there which will answer all your questions and you can then start to heal your DS.

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    Gluten free shops sell a Rice Milk chocolate. My DS2 loves it. A brand of rice milk chocolate is Moo Free. You may also get it from a reputable Health Food Shop.

    We have to give my DS2 a supplement. He has a great diet, still not enough for the calcium requirement he needs at his age.

    Are you in Melbourne sweatpeajan?

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    Is GAPS the one that is heavily meat based?

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    Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    Thanks H. We are in Sydney. I'd never heard of rice milk chocolate. That sounds wonderful. I just never thought we'd have to go down this path.

    Interestingly we stopped soy milk yesterday and he has stopped coughing. He was coughing continuously and we were trialling asthma meds.

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    Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    Forgot to add, I googled the gaps diet and it looks scary to me. Don't know how that would work for us.

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    Re: Soy milk allergy as well as dairy? Advice pls :(

    I know gaps looks scary and hard out. There is a thread in BB about it. Its really about gut health. See if you can find the thread.
    We don't do it all but since making the changes that I have made, our health has improved a lot.

    If you have a healthy gut your immune system is strong, so pro biotics every day goes a long way. My ds2 and I were immune compromised and I had a list of allergys. Probiotics every day for months, my ds2 has barely even had a cold- and he was sick every few weeks. My allergys have decreased and I can fight off a cold, not get swamped.

    Sorry if I'm ranting. Its become a bit of a "thing" with me

    Choc rice milk is super yummy, I hope you can find stuff your son will eat.
    What about a homemade trail mix. Nuts are a great food.

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