Well, I did not go real short, I got 6'' taken off, but still wanted to be able to tie it up so it is just below my shoulders now. I got it layered though. But i did go through with getting a fringe. I was 10 the last time I had a fringe. My hair is really thick too so it is nice to have it feel light. I am happy with it, but did say to my hairdresser that maybe next time I will try a bit shorter. Baby steps for me I guess.