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  1. #1
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    Jan 2009
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    J&J must have something to hide....

    (Hope this is okay in here, can't see any baby product specific related areas)

    I have been going through our cleaning products, creams, etc at work and the MSDS(material safety data sheets)which are used to inform how best to store/use chemicals, their ingredients, first aid etc.

    I could find sheets for everything we had online, except for ANYTHING made by J&J - their website says to contact them and they will supply you with the required MSDS. Why do they make it so secretive?

    I did contact them and I did get the sheets I wanted emailed to me - and wow some of them are longer than actual chemicals we use to clean- like bleach! Found it rather interesting how the no tears baby shampoo says to wash immediately if the child gets in their eyes.

    I now see why people don't like J&J products for their babies!

  2. #2
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    Apr 2010
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    I hate J&J and refuse to put any of their stuff on my bubs. It's evil!

    And lol to the no tears comment... kinda defeats the purpose of no tears hey??

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    how interesting!

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    very interesting....very interesting

    thanks for that

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    J&J have ALOT to hide. They are the WORST company to buy products from especially baby products. They are petrochemical based and petrochemical byproducts.... poison anyone? In tests, they were ranked amongst the most toxic and related to cancers. There used to be online reports somewhere, on a site about the ugly side of beauty or something....
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    Aug 2008
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    They also test on animals so thats another nail in the coffin for me I still have a heap of unused from DD1 that I got as gifts Im making a basket for my cousin of little inocent products

  7. #7

    Jul 2009
    Out North, Vic
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    Sad isn't it that all the marketing means MOST baby products in the supermarket are J&J and the hospitals use and recommend their products.

  8. #8
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    Jan 2009
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    I have to admit, I have always bought their products and was never aware of what they contained!

  9. #9
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    Jul 2009
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    Yuck yuck yuck! Glad the products I use are all natural and I understand what I'm reading in the ingredients list.

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    Another reason to strongly promote smaller, all natural products to all my mummy to be friends. I have never used their stuff on DD and NEVER will.

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    it's pretty scary huh...

  12. #12
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    So tell me then, for future reference, what are the baby products that you girls use?

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    we use pear shampoo ( i think the brand is MOP), and GAIA products, qv baby balm and qv bath oil

    I think any company that didnt say to wash their product out of a babies eyes, regardless of the ingredients, would be negligent.

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    So tell me then, for future reference, what are the baby products that you girls use?
    look in the supermarket aisles for:
    GAIA (wipes, hair care, moisturiser, bath stuff)
    Ecostore (washing powder, skin care, moisturiser)
    Avado (also in PriceLine) - organic sunscreen, skincare, nipple balm
    Nature Babycare (wipes, shampoo)

    look in health food shops for:
    Moo Goo - hair care, skin care
    SUKIN (also some chemists) - hair care, skin care

    I used J & J baby wipes for first six weeks of bilby's life. Hospital supplied them, so i naively assumed they must be safe. WRONG. She had constant nappy rash.

    The day i threw the JJ wipes OUT, adn started using the simplest thing - e.g wet flannel only - her nappy rash disappeared.

    It took that to happen, before i discovered an ingredient in jj wipes called PROPYLENE GLYCOL. i then actively avoided that ingredient in EVERYTHING i put on her body (skincare, haircare, what i washed her clothing and bedding in).

    my criteria became to buy products WITHOUT
    - perfume (amazing how many non-perfumed products, list parfum in the ingredients list!!)
    - parabens (cheap preservative that causes skin irritations in some people)
    - colour
    - propylene glycol
    - sodium laureth sulphate (cheap stuff that makes bubbles in shampoo, toothpaste)
    and CHUCK OUT anything in bathroom cabinet that did have these things.
    I threw out SO MUCH stuff.
    But the three of us stopped itching.

    my midwife said to ONLY bathe bilby in WATER and nothing else, for first 12 months of life. so that's what i did.
    but from after one, i used the organic baby products, as in my supermarket/health food shop list.

    back then, moogoo was ONLY available online.

    i have noticed a trend in last few years, more products are becoming available that say "sls free, paraben free". and i'm starting to see bamboo products too e.g bamboo hair brushes at kmart, bamboo makeup brushes at PriceLine. glad to see more natural options, even in chain shops.

    THis is the FOURTH TIME i have added formatting (lots of returns, to make paragraphs, i hope it doesn't revert back to one big para again, makes it so hard to read, can't work out why this is happening to my posts all of a sudden - apologies to anyone reading).

  15. #15

    Jul 2009
    Out North, Vic
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    I use one from a friend who is a naturopath, will have to ask her the name. I ran out and haven't seen her to get a new one.

    It's great

  16. #16
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    Feb 2009
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    There are heaps of organic baby products available, just most of them aren't in the shops, you get them online. But that is the case with any type of organic beauty products.
    I like the gaia ones, and the eco store ones that I have tried are nice too. They are both available in supermarkets. I know Sukin have a range of baby products that are quite affordable. I am planning on trying those when I run out the ones I have at the moment. I have heard the Weleda stuff is nice but haven't tried it myself.
    QV aren't organic/ all natural but I am pretty sure they are free of the nastiest things (could be wrong though), and the intense moisture cream did wonders for DS1's eczema.

    If you do a google search for organic baby products you will find a wide selection.

  17. #17
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    Oct 2007
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    The nicest products I have found are Miessence, Moogoo, Gaia, and theres one other I can't remember what its called but it starts with A!! Will be back when I remember it!

  18. #18
    BellyBelly Member

    Aug 2008
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    this makes me so sad i use moogoo, QV or gaia on DD, but wasn't aware of J&J's ingredients until DD was well over a year old

    she was is hossy for the first 6 months of her life, and all they had available was J&J bath stuff, moisturiser etc....so i figured if hossy uses it, it has to be good! ummmm wrong! glad I know now for this bub! goes to show what a good advertising campaign can do....

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