HotI - Sorry convince is the wrong word, not great with words lately between sleep debt and teething bubba. I said to him its his choice but I was concerned about the general. It is harsh on the body, he recently quit smoking and has put on quite a bit of weight the last 12 months that he's been sternly told off by the doctor. There are also heart problems in his family, heart attacks. Im worried about his health. He said he didnt realise a general was harmful in any way. Also more complication risks for the vasectomy - 10% chance of something happening to make the testicles swell up heaps - on my iphone without the info at the moment....