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    BellyBelly Member

    Jul 2006
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    One view that obs often say is that by not having the injection there might be a higher risk of the baby becoming jaundiced due to the high amount of red blood cells that bub has to break down. So that may be one thing that comes up when delayed cord clamping is discussed with your ob.

    Good on you for really looking into it, so you can make the best your for you and bubs.

    All the best

    (Sorry- mis read you original post before. My post wasn't really relevant. Sorry!)
    Last edited by StrawberryMumma; April 4th, 2008 at 04:32 PM.

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    paradise lost Guest

    It stings!!!

    LOL.

    I had it after we'd waited 10 minutes and my body wasn't doing it yet. As such 10 minutes is not a long time, but my DD had had a few problems getting going (apgars 9 at 1min, 7 at 5mins, 10 at 10mins) and needed suctioning and oxygen. For that reason the cord had been cut so they could take her to the window to assess her colour (she was going blue). Since the cord was already cut and my DD was still too dazed to breastfeed and hadn't been continuously skin-to-skin (though she was off my chest less than 2 minutes while they assessed her colour, suctioned her nose and mouth and got the oxygen set up) perhaps my oxytocin production was interfered with. In any case they looked worried and i let them give me the injection.

    I was at home and for me the worry of the midwife was enough to make me choose to have it. I have never heard (until this thread) that the injection causes retained placentas. I was and am basically of the opinion that you probably don't need it, but i'd never heard that it would cause problems or harm (other than not being able to say you had a fully natural birth even if you had no other drugs). For my midwives, they were 100% responsible for my life and the life of my baby at that point in time. Even if my body was going to do it naturally, it was worth it, FOR ME, to save them some worry and have the injection.

    Bec

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    One view that obs often say is that by not having the injection there might be a higher risk of the baby becoming jaundiced due to the high amount of red blood cells that bub has to break down. So that may be one thing that comes up when delayed cord clamping is discussed with your ob.

    Research actually disproves this theory. Jaundice has not been linked to "delayed" cord clamping (I put it in quotes because it is really normal cord clamping; the practice of syntocinon just before the baby is born and immediate clamping of the cord is really "early" cord clamping).

    When I get a chance, I'll post a link to the American Academy of Pediatricians, whose policies recommend against early cord clamping. I need to go to bed now, though, as I have work in about seven hours...

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    Dec 2007
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    Just thought I'd throw int hat when I asking about the injection, they told m,e what it was for and I laughed at them!! lol Surely the body knows how to deliver the placenta!...
    Anyway, the DR said to me that if I was really concerned about the affect of it on the baby then they can administer it after the cord is cut (not that they have to clamp and cut early, but rather there is no hurry to clamp and cut or deliver the placenta.

    So you can delay it if your concern is for the baby but you *need* to have the synto.

    Another alternative is to take some lavender oil into labour with you and immediately after the birth, have the midwive or your support person put one drop directly onto your pubic bone. This will help the placenta to detach and also aid its delivery



    PS: If you are worried about the synto, I reccomend looking into the Vit K dose (oral of injection) that they give bubs....nasty shyte in that thing too...

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    I can vouch for having the oxytocics cause a retained placenta. I had a syncto induction with my 3rd baby and even after she was born I still had to have the injection for the placenta (the drip had been turned off at the start of the 2nd stage of labour) So the only conclusion we can come up with for it is that my body was too overloaded with oxytocics (first synctocinon for the induction and then for the placenta) and it caused my uterus to clamp down tight on the placenta so it couldn't detach.

    I did intend for it to be left for a while with my next birth, but the cord was wrapped tight around his neck and they had to cut it to be able to get him out as he was blue when he was born, so there are some instances like that where they will have to cut it pronto as there was no way they could get it over his head and away from his neck without cutting it. A situation like that too is also something they may try to pull on you too. If baby is a bit *flat* when they are born, *they* argue that the cord needs to be cut immediately, but there is strong evidence to suggest that infact leaving the cord intact is the best thing for baby in these circumstances. Obviously not if baby is really flat, but if they are just a little slow to get going.

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    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
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    ACtually, being jabbed without permission after having my first set me on my "rack off I'm doing fine" attitide with my next two. After birthing an 8 pounder in 4 hours, the nurse laughed at me for being upset about it. I didn't need any darn "help" and I was more horrified someone could just stick me like that.

    Anyhoo, I didn't have it for the next two (they tried pulling the cord to "help" me again, till I told them off), for the third I was sitting up in bed on a tray thingy chatting away to family and it came out by itself in about 20 mins.

    No need as far as I'm concerned.

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    BellyBelly Member

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    Smickers..I'm not saying that whether this is right OR wrong (as in not having the injection may mean a higher risk jaundice) My post was meant to say that this is just what some obs may say to mothers at their antenatal apps.

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    Smickers..I'm not saying that whether this is right OR wrong (as in not having the injection may mean a higher risk jaundice) My post was meant to say that this is just what some obs may say to mothers at their antenatal apps.
    Sorry Lee, I knew that, but my post did make it look a bit like I was responding to you, and I didn't mean it that way. You are absolutely right, and it is important that people know that the information that many Obs understand about cord clamping is unfortunately, outdated.

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