Clomid for LPD

Thanks for your reply Michelle. I can see why you are on clomid with your level - I am sure you will find success. I am crossing fingers for you! I hear you about the nurse thing. I just wanted to be sure you didn't feel intruded on!
It's so nice to be able to share this journey with you and the other women in here. Otherwise it would be a lonely journey.

Well I just hated (she laughs raucously!) to say I told you so but my prog. was only 16. Indicating that I have not ovulated or I have and it was poor or I have only JUST ovulated. Surprise surprise!!!!!

I still have positive opk this am but this evening it is a touch lighter than positive. Indicating that the surge is coming down. So I would say I o'd last night but we'll be at the 'work bench' again tonight just in case!!!!!!!!!!!!

I spoke to my ob on his take on the late ovulation thing. He believes that yes science says that we 'should' o around 14 days after our last bleed for optimal eggs however that often doesn't happen and more often than not healthy babies are conceived.

As for me he says there is a very small amount of women that clomid will increase the follicular part of the cycle as well as the luteal and perhaps I am one of them! He said it would seem that the clomid has affected my cycle as I have ovulated later than normal for me.

I will have my prog. level done again on Monday. We should see a significant rise to say that I have ovulated well - over 40. Keep your fingers crossed for me that the clomid has increased my luteal phase otherwise if I caught the eggy it may not stick.

Well, I have to let it go for now as it's out of my hands!

How are you Debbie????
Love to you all.

good luck deb, debbie and michelle. Im watching this thread with keen interest. i am too not having much luck with the conception or the sticking!!! Im having surgery on wed for poss endo, and while in there they will check my uterus lining and my tubes to may sure they are all clear. Not looking forward to it at all, am scared silly..... but hopefully will give me some answers!! I too am on the path to "over the hill" hahaha, just one more please!!!
Take care all you lovely woman.....such a hard road sometimes.....

Chelle - good luck for Wednesday - surgery is a scary thing sometimes, I understand.
I have fingers and toes crossed for you.
Where is everyone else???? Maybe you've all retired to the bedroom?????????????
My dad is still critical but stable. He had a reaction to some blood products but his kidneys (I am shocked), lungs, heart and liver are running like well oiled machines. In the next few days we will know if there has been any neurological damage due to the effects of the oxygen depletion.
Yep, it's been a bloody awful week and I have cried many tears, many out of the confusion of the situation.

On a brighter note one of my closest friends has returned a positive preg test after her first round of clomid!!!!! Yippee. She is a bit shocked. Her last baby was conceived the cycle before they were to begin on ivf. She is 38 - so all of us who have the ummm wisdom of years can take heart!

Have a great weekend gorgeous women.

Good luck with the blood test today Deb. I am terrified of getting a poor result and not knowing what to do next. Well, I can only do what I am doing so far. I don't know if they will give me the result over the phone or whether I need to wait till days off on Wednesday to go in an get them. My usual GP is on holidays so I will probably need to go in ... unfortunately.

Your Dad must be a trooper to still have functioning kidneys!!!! What an achievement. Are they thinking that hypoxic brain injury is possible for him?? Obviously with a significant drop in Hb would be a problem (to say the least) but considering his other organs .....

A big :hello: to all you other girls too!!

Yeah he is a trooper. Yep to hypoxic brain injury but it seems that all is well in the top paddock so far. The RN that looked after him during his bleed said that it was one of those 'done deals' - he really didn't think he would make it. I live an hour and a half away and the intensivist told me that I wouldn't get there in time... I am truly shocked that he has pulled through seemingly quite unscathed. He smokes a couple of packets of ciggies a day - has for as long as I can remember and has a 'few' nips of scotch a night. He's an ex cop. You can paint the picture! So much for all my years of sprooking to him what he was doing to his health!!!

I understand your fears about your blood result. It's scary isn't it. Just remember thuogh that if the results aren't so great this cycle that doesn't mean they won't be next cycle. I am in there barracking for you! I am hoping I too get a fabbo result and that we both had success and 10 months from now we'll be comparing birth stories!

I've a big day today - I wonder where the other women are???

Big hugs Michelle and thanks for your caring...

Ex cop huh ... explains sooooooo much!!!! I have one of those in the family too and have grown up with many as good friends. Sometimes I think there is a pattern to life that we don't know about (kind of like God has an expiry date for each of us and you just don't know when that is). Obviously your Dad's still *good* at the moment with a bit more shelf life!!!

Hopefully the other women are all getting set for their own little miracles. Enjoy your needle (NOT!!!)

Hi Michelle,
Thanks for that. I so agree, I have seen enough in my time to truly believe that we each have our 'used by' date. If his was up then last Wednesday was the perfect exit, but no!
I am having my blood test tomorrow. I believe I ovulated Friday (cd21) so I will give it 3 days for a nice progesterone level (please, please please!). Did you have yours today?
If so Wednesday is P day for both of us hey?!!

Where are all you other women????

Talk soon...

I had my blood test on Friday which was CD 21. I need to get the results and that will have to wait until my days off. Fingers crossed for both of us too!!!

Are you out there Debbie? Is everything okay? I have been thinking of you a lot... Only 4 weeks until your appointment!

Hi Saph, Chelle and LIlylou and Michelle too. Blood test today - results tomorrow for Michell and I. I am so interested to see what they are. We are looking at a dose increase I think for next month...

Have a happy day

Hi all,
Hope everyone is well.
Sorry, I have been MIA, just been busy and haven't been able to get on. I hope your dad's feeling well soon Deb. Can't believe you have ovulated this late on clomid, I thought that it brought ovulation forward. It's something I'm looking into but hoping I don't have too try. To be honest, I am so scared that I'm going to have 'problems'. Up till now, I've only ever been to obs once, he was happy with my charts I showed him and didn't believe I needed any help or tests. I'm too much of a stress head as it is without having to have tests etc for ttc. The more I know, the worse I get. I've often thought my LP could be longer, but too scared to go and get bloods done. I'll just see how things go. I don't know how you guys do it. I guess this could be the start of it for me.

I think I may have ovulated last Thursday as I had signs, very strong OPK Wednesday, but I also had a very slight line on HPT test so I gather I can't fall pregnant anyway. My temp was very low still on Friday, so I decided to bd Friday night just incase. Think it would have been too late anyway, needed to bd Thursday. To be honest, I don't think anything will happen this month. I'd be surprised if I even have ovulated? I go back to hospital at the end of this month for my results of m/c.
Goodluck Michelle and Debbie with your blood tests tomorrow
take care all

Sorry girls. Have been to Perth for a few days.
Well, no.2 daughter is well and truely established in her new bed and loves it. She has it next to her sister and they love being so close. No real high jinx yet but they do have fun when they wake up. You wouldn't believe they have been sharing a room for about 18 months already.
I am fine. Just approaching "O" time so will be occupied! over the next few days. All signs are good. I am on CD11 so should be in a few more days. I don't need to ask for you to keep everything crossed as I know you will.
Debbie - was so sorry to read about your Dad and so happy for you that he is on the mend. Do send him my best.
Can't wait to hear your results, you too Michelle.
Must go.
Love to you all, Debbie, Saph, Michelle, Lilylou and everyone else I may have forgotten to mention.
Big hugs,
Debbie

Are you around Michelle? How did your progesterone go???

I keep popping in here to see how all you wonderful women are going on your journies, & can I just say I think it is fabulous how you are all supporting each other through similar experiences atm.

Wishing you all the very best

Thanks Kirsty,
We are all very fortunate to have found one another I think.
1 month to go for you! How exciting. Are you feeling okay? You are in my thoughts often you wonderful woman. The way I am dragging the chain maybe we will be belly buddies after all! That would be so nice - a little bitter sweet for us both given our last journey together...

Feeling a bit down tonight my sweet. My progesterone wasn't so hot :crying:
In fact lower this cycle than without the clomid. I know I know I hear you say this is the way it is sometimes and we ALL have a wonky cycle here and there - I just wanted it to be the one, you know????:crying:

Okay, I need to get back to my work. I am in Belly Belly when in fact I should be doing something else!

Love and big hugs to you Kirsty...

Deb, sending a big hug your way. Can you feel it? I do hope it makes you feel better.
Now back to work girl!!!!

Best wishes as always,
Debbie

Deb sweets you always know the right thing to say. I am having as good a day as expected today with it being Thomas' EDD, things have been a little tense between DH & I but am hoping that the session we have with our counsellor this afternoon will help that out.

I am getting a bit nervous now about our appt in Melbourne to be honest, guess it is the fear of the unknown kicking in ~ not sure what they will tell us. But I guess we'll deal with it the best way we can once we find out.

As for being your cycle/ pg buddy again I'd love to but can totally understand if you move on without me :) LOL besides I'm sure our outcomes will be brilliant this time around!!

I understand how you must feel about things being not as good as without the clomid, but I'm sure with perserverance you will get there (& sooner rather than later too)

Big hugs to you sweetie (& all you other wonderful women that are in here atm)

Thankyou Kirsty and Debbie for your thoughts. I am feeling more okay today! :hug: Kirsty, I am thinking of you and Thomas today...

Well, I did another progesterone level today. I will be interested to see what it is tomorrow. My ob and I conferred and I will up the clomid to 100mgs next cycle. I am not even considering pregnancy this cycle - of course we did the wild thing when the egg was hatching, but I am not feeling too confident. That's okay. I always feel better if I have a plan and I have one!!!
I just don't wanna waste any time. My biological clock is beginning to sound like a gong and the gap between my last and my next is ever widening. I will have u/s on cd10 this coming cycle to check the follicular growth, that will give us a good indication if the clomid has done it's job this month - at least we will know approx. ovulation time.

Sorry to be a bit of a pain yesterday, I know you will all understand...

I am wondering why we haven't heard from Michelle. Are you here Michelle? Are you okay??

Hugs to all of you...

Hi Deb!! On nights still so I am sorry I haven't been around - sleep has taken priority and the shifts have been too busy to log on. I have found a way to distract myself from the 2ww and it is doing lots and lots of shifts!!! I am yet to find out my pregesterone result and I am due for AF somewhere between Saturday and Monday ish depending on cycle length (I think more like Monday at this stage). No symptoms that I can latch onto though so who knows. I am sorry your result is less than you anticipated. Could it be that your test was still too early to detect your post ovulation progesterone surge?? 100mg of clomid isn't too bad though.

Kirsty - I am sending you big hugs for Thomas' EDD today. I hope you and DH have made some peace and are on the same page at this time.

I'll be back later - promise!!!

Well lovelies I got my most recent prog.level done and it was 60! Woo Hoo! That is a significant rise from Tuesdays level. So in two days my level has doubled. This is good for a number of reasons.

Firstly it shows that I did not ovulate until at least cd21 which is congruent with my positive opk on cd20. Progesterone doesn't surge as such - it steadily increases to a peak at about 5-7 days prior to your next bleed. So, it's possible and probable that my level could increase more. I won't test again though this cycle...

It shows that possibly the clomid did not have a response with my body.
I think that we will increase the clomid to 100 to see if we can get me ovulating on cd14 or thereabouts.
So, it will be interesting to see if my LP has increased. I secretely hope not so there is a shorter time between now and my next ttc stint! Ridiculous reasoning I know.
So, I am feeling better, I was feeling flat about my result of Tuesday.

I hope you too have good news Michelle and that this is your month. If it is hopefully next month will be mine and we can hit PAML with a vengence!
How are you Saph, Debbie, Lilylou and Chelle?? Come in and tell us how you are going...
Hugs to you all

So Deb - what makes you think that conception could not have occurred this month??? That progesterone is a fabulous result!! I am going to pop into the GP tomorrow to get the level so I know what to do if AF arrives on Monday.

I am so pleased you feel better now that you know you have ovulated and ovulated well!!

Thanks Michelle,
I don't know why I don't consider conception occured this month. Maybe because I ovulated so late and am thinking that the endometrium wouldn't be so flash???? However that doesn't pan out with all late ovulations I know...
It would be lovely to have hit the jackpot, I just don't think I have. I am quite calm about that though. I know it WILL happen.
I hope you have a lovely weekend Michelle. I am crossing all digits for your level. Please come back and tell me what it is tomorrow.

Big hugs :hug:

Oh Deb you just never know (although admittedly given your occupation it is probably more likely you know exactly what is going on!!)

Kirsty - how was today?? Sending you hugs and love.

Hi everyone
Kirsty, thinking of you :hug:
Deb, so glad your results were more positive, maybe you wont need to go 100 clomid
Michelle, crossing my fingers you get the results your after tomorrow, you sound so busy with work, atleast it does keep your mind off things a bit, but then, the profession you work in probably makes it harder for you as you know exactly what's going on
Me, well, I woke up this morning with AF, so excited, my first since m/c so now atleast I feel I'm back to normal, so scared as well, I almost feel like I don't want to chart anymore, just incase it's not a good cycle, I know so much know it just freaks me out when things are not what they are 'suppose to be'. I then think 'something is wrong' wish I didnt' analyis (sp) it all so much, I don't think it helps, probably just stresses me more. Damm internet, too much knowledge :doh: It's so hard trying to relax when you know what to expect and what's not to be expected. I think I will give it a couple a months, if nothing has happened, I will decide on whether I'll keep trying, or just be very thankful for the two beatiful children that I already have. I'm not as strong as you girls are, I don't think I can keep up with the emotions and downfalls of ttc anymore. Don't want to go through the rollercoaster anymore, it's so depressing and obsessive, it kind of takes over your life IYKWIM. (I'm not sounding like the postive bubble I was a few weeks ago :( )
:pray: for all of us, it would be so nice if we all could be bb together
wishing us ALL GOOD LUCK, and hoping we will be posting BPF's very very soon.

Michelle it was ok, bit stressful to start with coz DH had forgotten that it was Thomas' EDD but we had a session with our counsellor in the afternoon & he asked about it a little. Actually it was really good, he started by asking if I didn't mind he's like to know what sort of emotional impact it has on me by being the EDD. I answered him that in my rational mind I know that it is very rare that a baby comes on its EDD & that for all I knew we might have already had our bubs, or been on the way to the hospital or even still be waiting in a day or two for his arrival, but to me the arrival of his EDD signaled that there would be no such event for us this year. That it kinda felt like the dream really was over coz there wouldn't be the outcome that we presumed there would be when we announced our pregnancy. He totally understood & told me that he hoped I had found time to have a cry over the loss of that dream & reality & to take some time to myself at some stage.

How are things with you going?

How is everyone else going?

Morning!! Kirsty you would have seen how I've been on TTCAML.

Spotting and imminent AF are my annoying aspect of the weekend but the good news is I ovulated!!!!! Progesterone was 90 on day 21 so at least that is one positive. Deb - any idea on why it is so high (upper level of range was 75) and is this a problem or a good thing?? Just a little worried.

Hope AF hasn't shown up for you at all then Michelle

Thanks Kirsty. I still think it is inevitable at this stage but there is always a glimmer of hope. I'm pleased yesterday went OK. The EDD is like the final closure of that chapter and the chance to move to the next level of grief. I still miss Caitlyn so very much but it was different after her due date passed. Prior to that it was always "I should be X weeks pregnant". After that is was just another day without her. Sending you hugs and prayers that you and DH can work through this difficult time.

Hello, wow everyone has been so busy!!
Hi to deb, debbie, Michelle,lilylou and Kirsty...
Deb you just never know what is around the corner for you, fingers crossed
Michelle really the same for you, that is a very high level...hmmmm
Lilylou, glad AF turned up for you, nice to get back on track.
Kirsty big hugs to you as you pass this huge mile stone...hugs, hugs hugs..

Well as for me, I had a lap done on the 9th of August... they found endo on my overies, in my uterus, and both my tubes had 3 cysts in each... one tube blocked so seems to think I have only 1 good working one anyway:(..I also had a hyunia, not sure how that is spelt...so... am very sore, but glad it is over. Will see specialist in 2 weeks to go over stuff!!!
Hope everyone is having a fab weekend!!

Hi Michelle,
Fantastic news on your progesterone! I have copied some prg. levels. I would n't say yours was too high. If you weren't on the clomid it's getting up there but no problem in my opinion. YOu do expect higher than 'normal' levels on clomid. As you would know there is a very broad normal so take a look...
It shows that the clomid has done its trick for you. That must feel really good. YEAH!!!!!
Could the spotting be implantation???? I hope so. If not here's to next cycle for us both. I am not expecting my period until Tuesday or Wednesday next week. As I said before I don't think we succeeded this month. But there is always next month!!!

PROG
Reference Interval: Male adult: < 2 nmol/L
Female:
Follicular phase: < 2 nmol/L
Luteal phase: 5 - 90 nmol/L
Post-menopausal: < 2 nmol/L
Pregnancy:
1st trimester: 30 - 150 nmol/L.
2nd trimester: 50 - 460 nmol/L
3rd trimester: 170 - 800 nmol/L

Lilylou, so glad that your period has returned and things can get on track. I understand the mixed emotions with this time. :hug:

Kirsty, glad the counselling went well. Men are from Mars women are from venus.... We are very different sometimes. It is important that you feel understood and supported. I understand that your appointment next month will be scaary too. There has been so much to get through. :hug:

Chelle: YOu have been through the mill sweetie. :hug:. NO wonder you are feeling sore. I will look forward to hearing what your care provider has to say about your surgery. Many women conceive with one tube. It's gonna be okay. :hug:

Well, I am about to attack a very large basket of ironing. Very exciting!!!!

Just here to check on you Michelle my friend....
How are you doing???? Did the bleeding stop???? I hope so. Otherwise at least we know that that clomid is a winner for you prog.levels!!!! :hug:

How are you Chelle, Debbie, Kirsty, Saph and Lilylou???

Hi again Michelle,
I just went into ttcaml to see if I could 'see' you. I am so so so sorry that your period arrived. I was thinking with such a good level that you may have conceived.
:hugs: The good thing is that you had a really good ovulation and this next cycle is yours okay?!!!
I am thinking of you :hug:

Thanks Deb - the level was actually 91.5 and I was kind of hoping that it may have been an indication of conception but I guess it was not meant to be. On the bright side, I DO ovulate and I DID ovulate on 100mg so that's a small woo hoo. Fingers crossed for next cycle.

I am overweight and I have started back at the gym which is what I was doing when I last conceived. I didn't lose any weight going to the gym but my borderline insulin resistance was probably brought into line. I am considering arranging an appointment with an endocrine specialist to see if I am insulin resistant due to my weight or due to something else. It is just so frustrating not to have an answer as to why it isn't happening.

Once again - thank you. Your support means a lot.

P.S. How's your Dad??

Hi everyone, sorry to break into your thread. I just wanted to say 'hi' to Lilylou, I'm so glad af arrived for you! I know I'm looking forward to it (!), expecting it around this thursday. I think it's a really good idea to realx about ttc, I'm sure it will happen for you soon. I really hope you're doing okay sweetie. :hug:

Aw Sezjm, thank you, your so sweet :hug:
You will always be a very special BB to me, infact, if it wasn't for you, I probably wouldn't be posting now. After I m/c, I didn't want to get on here anymore, I certainly didnt' want to announce that I had a m/c, until I read your thread and what you were going through, I felt I had to reply, before I knew it I was typing away. So glad I did.We shared that journey together, our next will be such a better one, bb in the pregnancy thread :bellyrubs:
AF arrived Friday, my god has it arrived. Actually quite early as it's only 4 weeks tomorrow but i'm not complaining. :) I'm so use to having light af's that only last a couple of days, this has been full on since Friday, although I just went to toilet and it seems to have slowed up. Cross my fingers this Thursday is your day. Can your believe how excited we are about getting for AF, this is a first. Normally I curse it.
My moods are all over the place, today I'm feeling good, confident, whatever happens, happens and all the rest, tomorrow, well who knows. :rolleyes: But all is good. Let me know when af arrives.
bye

:hug: Michelle,
I think it would be a good idea to see and endocrinologist - if for nothing else you can put it to rest, iykwim?
It will happen sweetie. Your progesterone was fabulous, this cycle that egg maybe wasn't quite right or the sperm weren't. Or, the planets or whatever. It will happen. This journey is a tough one. One day we will all look back and it won't seem quite as tortuous as now.
Have a good day and we'll talk again soon I hope.... :hug:

Oooh Michelle, sorry 'it' turned up!!! BUT on the gr8 side, yes you did ovulate, matching the 2 little devils together must have crossed paths, as Im sure happens alot for us all!!!IT will happen and will very soon...
Hey Deb, Im doing ok, the more the bruises come out the better I feel.My... I certainly cant blame babies for the mess they made round my belly button... haha...Still crossing fingers for you, cos when we feel like maybe we didnt, then that might be the one that you did!!:)
Im looking forward to getting AF and seeing specialist and then I can start making plans... cant wait.
Lilylou it is so normal to feel the way you described. Everyday is different and as long as you allow yourself to go with the mood your feeling then it will all be ok....
Take care one and all

Lilylou, I really feel like I shared my journey with you. It helped me so much to know that I was most certainly not the only person going through a traumatic time. I'm really pleased that I helped you too. I hope you are finding alot of support on BB, I know I am. I can't wait for us to be BB together, that will be special.

I'm so glad af arrived for you (that sounds so strange, doesn't, it?!). My d&c was 5 weeks ago on Wednesday, but I'm pretty sure I am 11 DPO, so expecting af around Thursday. The cycle I fell pg, I didn't O until cd 26 so I think my cycles are just getting back to normal after being on BCP for 9 years. At least this one will be shorter (I hope)!

Please let me know how you are going, it's not easy is it? Let me know if you ever need anything. I will be sure to let you know when af arrives!!!! :hug:

Well, I thought I would come in here and tell you all that I got a feint positive hpt last Sunday morning. I tested again on Monday and it was darker and Tuesday it was darker again. So, I am pregnant!

I saw my ob yesterday and we will do hcg/prog levels on Friday and a repeat on Monday to see what is happening. If they look good then woo hoo!!!! Of course I am nervous - I have been down this road 4 times before with a not so great outcome. However, I am chosing to embrace this pregnancy and believe that this little one is going to grow big and strong and be born hollering!

I am continuing to have acupuncture and taking my chinese herbal pregnancy support tea(Bushells it aint!!!). I am slowing down. Reflecting on this growing baby and praying that this pregnancy will result in a baby to take home and love.

You have all supported and nurtured me and I feel such a connection and friendship with you all. You will all be doing the same soon I am sure.

I will let you know on Tuesday the results of my hcg monitoring. Say a little prayer and send some positive thought our way. All the 'good' energy is helpful, I just know.

I am feeling a bit ordinary, and that is a 'nice' feeling (iykwim!!!)

Thankyou gorgeous women again. :hug:

Huge congratulations to you Deb! So many good wishes coming your way......I'm sure this will be a beautiful pregnancy and baby for you. No one deserves it more! :)