Clomid for LPD

OMG Deb I am sitting here with the biggest smile on my face for you sweetie. What truly wonderful news.

Take nothing but good care of yourself & embrace each & every day of this pg & may it be long & happy!!

Can't wait to hear about the wonderful blood results that I'm sure you'll get (hopefully I'll be following you soon too!!)

OMG
Congratulations, wow Deb, that is fantastic, you were so convinced this month was not to be. Now you have to cancel all those appointment you had
Well done
Lilylou

Deb - having just finished a night shift, I came here to find the best news of the day. I am so very happy for you - congratulations!!!! I can't wait to see those fabulous results on Tuesday. Sending you many prayers and positive thoughts for a healthy and contented pregnancy. xx

I told you I knew. Didn't know I was psyhic did you!
Congratulations.
Debbie

OMG Deb, Thats wonderful news, I am soooo sure this one is going to stick and he/she will be coming home with you in 9 months time!
Congratualtions sweety!

Sorry to butt in on your thread girls but I couldn't not say anything!!

Oh wow Deb!!! :hug: Such FANTASTIC news!!! Congratulations!!

I've had the best day - my dear friend had her first pregnancy confirmed today (concieved through ivf) and now i've just logged on to see this!!!

I am so very, very happy for you!!!

I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers and look forward to hearing how things are progressing.

Get lots of rest and take it easy.

Oh MY GOSH!!!! this is such great news!!! Im praying for you, this is the best news. Feet up , look after urself... come on monday!!!!

Hi DEB :hello:


OMG!!!!!!whoooooo hoooooo :) :)

I AM SOOOOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU! STICKY STICKY STICKY VIBES :pray: . Give me a call on monday if you get a chance just so you can hear the excitment in my voice.

CONGRATULATIONS Deb!!!

Oh wow! THANKYOU so much everyone for sharing my excitement! I had my first quantatative hcg and progesterone on Friday and my second I will do this morning after posting in here! I will get the results tomorrow. I must admit I am a little nervous about it.

I have decided that I am focusing wholly on good things this pregnancy. I have done myself up a chart of positive affirmations with pictures of big bellies and healthy just born babies. I even did up a 'birth announcement' for our baby and put it on my Positive Pregnancy Collage. It may sound a bit out there for some but I truly believe we can help to create our reality. Last pregnancy I was so full of fear - it was so intense. This time, I am thinking of names, dreaming of this baby and imagining this healthy wonderful baby growing in my womb. I have been meditating, drinking my chinese herbs and having acupuncture. I am feeling a bit nauseous at times and tired. I get those horrible achy crampy, 'about to get my period feelings' which I struggle with but this is my 9th pregnancy and I know it is normal - just a bit scary at times given my history. I am sure you all understand what I am saying.

Thankyou all for your positive thoughts - they mean everything. I so want us to keep this thread going so I will be back. I don't feel ready yet to go int the PAML forum - I want my buddies in here to come with me!

Thankyou all again you gorgeous women...

Wishing you a healthy growing BHCG on your blood test today (and whatever your progesterone should be ;)). We would love to join you in PAML .... just a few small technicalities to go :rolleyes:

Really happy for you!! Wonderful news!
Sending lots of positive vibes your way

Yey Deb!!! Have been checking in to see if you'd posted. Looking forward to hearing your results, am sure they are gonna be just great! ;)

I am with you 100% on the postive thinking, who knows what power it holds?? Like you, I lived my last pregnancy in total fear and now regret that. I wish I'd just stayed positive and enjoyed the time I had with my precious baby, even if it didn't turn out to be long.

I find inspiration and hope in your journey, and I'm sure the other girls here feel the same way.

Will keep you in my prayers and save a few little prayers that some of the other girls will be joining you in PAML very soon! :crossfingers:

thankyou Willow for your kind words. I hear you about the time you have with your baby. We never know how long we are going to have with anyone. I am chosing to "dance like no'one is watching" with this pregnancy. I am only 5 minutes pregnant but I feel a real connection with this baby.
I hope you all can join me on a new pregnancy journey very very soon!

Michelle, how are things going??? You have been in my thoughts a lot.
Debbie, how are you?
:hug: to everyone

Hi Deb. I'm doing OK. I have been home with a flu today and read through my journal I started after Caitlyn's birth. It is a beautifully written piece (even if I do say so myself :p)It made me cry but it is also a reflection of the journey we have travelled so far. I am trying very hard to be positive this cycle but there is also that glimmer of disillusionment. After 5 clomid cycles it does get to be a *little* frustrating :rolleyes: I just have to believe there is a higher path and that my dreams will come to fruition some day.

Sending you prayers and positive thoughts. You are my role model for our next pregnancy ... positive and taking one day at a time regardless of the outcome.

[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]Michelle,
Some of our most beautiful writing comes from the depths of despair - I know it too...
Keep believing Michelle. You have conceived before and you WILL again. You WILL.
I can appreciate how disillusioned you must feel but each cycle you are one step closer to a baby.
I wish I could say something wonderfully profound that would lift your spirits, but I am all out of profound tonight! It may not be your thing, but it has been helpful to me in the past to pick out pictures of what you want to happen. Picckies of new born babies, pregnant bellies, peaceful happy scenes, family scenes. Paste them onto cardboard with some affirmations that fit for you. It is something that you can go to and focus on when you feel despairing. Tell me to go away if it's not your cup of tea.
There is a great little book called "creative visualisation" by Shakti Gawain. It gives fairly practical ideas on how to visualise. It is known that it reduces stress and helps to achieve a sense of well being. I have found it helpful personally.

Having said that it is taking all of my energy to focus on positive thought tonight. I am worried about tomorrows blood results. I FEEL that all is okay, I am just feeling a little fearful tonight. Dinner's almost on the table and then I will kick back and try and focus on that uneventful pregnancy that I have planned for myself!
:hug: Michelle

Deb - I am more than into visualisations. I meditate with my candles and do the positive visualisation through this route.

I have no problem at all visualising positive things for you though. So I am sending you extra reinforcement thoughts to support you tonight and get you through until you see those wonderful results tomorrow. Big :hug: xx

Michelle, I think we're on the same wave length you and I. It's a shame you are not around the corner and we could meet in person!

Well I got my results back - for all my positiveness and good thought, I was sweating like a pig al morning!!!

Okay on Friday at 14dpo my result was 240
on Monday at 17dpo my result was 990

WOOO HOOO WOOO HOOO WOO HOO WOOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sooooooooooo happy!!!!!!!!

I AM GOING TO BIRTH A BABY IN APRIL!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you all - I am heading over to preg announcements!!!!!!

Woohoo Deb I'll be checking my computer every day in April to hear your good news!!

WOOOO HOOOOO!!! :dance:

Way to go Deb - congratulations!!

I am sooooooo excited for you. If I was closer I'd be right there to give you the biggest hug (and no doubt dry those tears of immense relief at such a wonderful result!!!!) :happyforyou:

Looking forward to your April delivery and hoping to join you as a belly buddy soon. xx

what fab results, you must be sooooooooooooooo happy. Congrats to you and your family, and I hope to join you very soon!!!!!!

Gorgeous girls thankyou!!!!!! The only sadness I feel right now is that you are not with me at this moment! However, it won't be long and you too will have a smile on your dial as big as mine! I am sending you all :fertilise: vibes - we will be belly buddies I am sure! :hug:

Don't be sad for us - just keep those positive thoughts going so we can join you soon!!!! If I have a smile as big as you do right now (I can only imagine how big it is :D) when I get that BFP then I am sure the world will know about our pending arrival before I plan on telling them!! ROFL

Can't wait to hear the updates on how you are progressing. If I can't be there myself, I can at least live vicariously through you ;)

Sorry Deb, been a bit busy recently. Hope you read my early congratulations message. I can just tell these things. Only time I can't tell is when it is myself!!
Hope you are well . What am I saying, of course you are!!! Thanks for the good wishes for the rest of us.
Take care of yourself.
Debbie

Deb you are so sweet. I'm sure you'll have a belly buddy very soon!

**But it won't be me! have started spotting again today (cd23) so looks like whatever is going on with me following my lap surgery is going to be an ongoing problem. Getting the results of my blood tracking for this cycle tomorrow but at this stage am pretty confident it isn't going to be good news. Soooooo over this!

Deb, hope you pop into this thread sometime soon cause I don't know where else to post this.

I am just reading over some of your early posts in this thread. I'm sure we've talked about what has been happening with my cycles since my lap in late may to remove an endometrioma from my ovary (this was after my m/c but between my m/c and the surgery my cycles and af were normal). Whilst I did have an endometrioma removed, it was single site endo only, have never had any problems with endo before and have conceived naturally twice on the first cycle of ttc, so I don't have a 'history' of endo (which I know can cause this type of spotting).

Anyway, have been doing blood tracking this cycle to sort out the cause of this spotting (usually starts at about 7-10dpo) and am getting the results tomorrow.

From your experience and wealth of knowledge :p do you think either of these scenarios is probable (a) that I have low levels of progesterone at the moment which is causing this spotting so early before af arrives or (b) that the imbalance is so bad that I am not ovulating at all? I have had positive opk's the last two cycles but as we know, they aren't conclusive.

I am starting to think that it's a big possibility my gyno might recommend Clomid for me too and am freaking out a bit about that. I am seeing him next Tuesday so not long to wait.

Any info/ideas you have would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Willow - I hope I can help a little. :hugs:
Spotting prior to your period does indicate some type of hormonal 'disturbance' . If you are receiving positive opk's it is likely that you are ovulating. However, you are right to say it isn't a definite. Testing your progesterone levels 7 days before your next period is the best way of letting us know you ovulate. As you will see from me, if you don't ovulate on cd14 a cd21 test won't give you peanuts. So, when you get a positive opk assume that the day after the positive you ovulate. Count 7 days from then and get your blood test. This is important. You will see from me that my cd21 test indicated I hadn't ovulated but my cd25 and cd27 tests indicated I had. Quite obviously I did as I am gestating away as we speak!

Clomid isn't too scary - though no drug should be taken flippantly I would be the first to agree. However, it can be really helpful in sorting out luteal phase defects and by boosting hormone levels to facilitate a nice strong LH surge which has the flow on of increasing the progesterone levels. Without decent prog. levels it is more difficult for a pregnancy to be maintained. This is why shorter luteal phases often precede pregnancy losses in the first few days - simply the prog. level begins it's decline before the implanted pregnancy triggers a greater progesterone increase.

Really the side effects of clomid in MOST but not all women are minimal. The risk of multiple birth (mainly twins) is about 8 percent - so you have a 92 percent chance of not having a multiple! There are some studies that show fertility drugs increase the risk of gynaecological cancers however gynaecological cancers are higher in women with fertility issues also so the figures ar a little contentious. I would argue that the contraceptive pill does more to stuff around our 'bits' than some rounds of clomid - but that's my thing and isnt' a medical fact.

I hope I have helped if I can help more let me know. :hug:

And how is the pregnant one going today :D

Thanks Deb, you've pretty much confirmed everything i was thinking. I am feeling confident that my cd21 tests will be pretty accurate as I got a positive opk on cd13, so would assume that I o'd on cd14 or thereabouts which means cd21 should be about spot on give or take a day.

I am also worried about the low levels of prog. making it impossible to maintain a pregnancy, assuming of course I am o'ing and that little egg is getting fertilised. I must say, considering I have fallen so easily in the past and my gyno expected no further problems, I have wondered if this is what might be happening.

I guess I am more terrified of assisted conception generally than of the actual drug itself. But I must say, the thought of twins at this stage is a little appealing! I am not naive when it comes to raising twins, I've seen it first hand and know how challenging it can be on a daily basis but at the same time if i never had to do this again I would be very relieved!! Three little babies in my arms would be more than I could hope for. It's such a hard journey for some of us, well worth it in the end of course, but still tough and I am struggling with it at the moment.

Thanks again for your reply, I will let you know how I go next week after speaking to my gyno :crossfingers:

Hope you are feeling well and that little baby is getting nice and sticky in there! :p

Glad it helped Willow - will you let me know what you prog.level is? I hear what you say about assisted conception. I felt quite the same.

I am feeling okay. I didn't have much nausea yesterday and I burst into tears this morning. I spent some time centring myself and I am feeling better. I know that I am going to be having a topsy turvy trip of emotions for the first 16 weeks. I am counting down the days until I can see our baby's heartbeat. That is my second hurdle (my first being the hcg levels!). I am like the pregnancy symptom super sleuth! However, when I sit down with myself and do some positive work I feel much better.

It's my birthday today and I am off to lunch with some girls. I am looking forward to it.
Have a great day,
:hug:

Oh wow, happy bday Deb!!! What a nice bday present you got this year, just snuck it in before your turned 39 hey??? I remember you saying your 39th was fast approaching.

I'm at work today, seeing Dr at lunch time so will try to get back in and post my prog. results this arvo. If not, I'll do it tonight.

Fingers crossed!!

Have a great lunch and keep up that centering and positive thought!

Hiya girls if you want to keep chatting about this you'll find a new thread over here