Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage/Loss #2- June 2009

mrzbaby :hello: honey... Yeah ;) go POAS as much as you want! hehehhe I highly recommend the pg tests on ebay, I got a BFP at 12DPO this time and last time I didn't even test until 17DPO! What a looney!!!!! I was going by what fertility friend says (they are crazy over there suggesting to wait that long) :rofl: But honestly I find they work really well.... And if anyone wants an inside tip, here it is... I used to work with many pharmaceutical companies and the tests are really 'all the same' so for the sake of your back pocket just get a bulk amount from ebay and test until your little heart is content :)

zacsmum HURRY UP and POAS!!!! The suspense is killing me!

Hello everyone else :p

? Of those who have had a D&C and a natural mc which one allowed your body to get back to a normal cycle quicker? From what I've read on here over the last 6 months woman tend to get back to normal quicker after a D&C... Has anyone found that to be correct? For me my cycle was back to normal after the D&C straight away as in I ovulated and had my normal 30 day cycle.... This time I am still all over the shop?

Hi,

I got a darker line this morning so I can nervously say i'm UTD. AHHHH!!!:dance:

Have made an appointment to see my GP later today for a blood test to double confirm (i'm such a worrier).

I have my fingers crossed for all of you. Never in my wildest dream could I have thought I would get pregnant 2 cycles in a row, my DH and I went through hell TTC DS. So many tests, stress and tears. I :pray: that all of you get the bubs you desire and that the wait is not to long.

Thank you so much for all of you support, I am so thankful I found this site and all of the lovely ladies on it when I did. Sending you all :bluedust:

Hello everyone :hello:

Zacsmum- really hoping you get a strong BFP today :crossfingers:

Cherished- my cycle seemed to be the same after my d&c and my natural m/c but having said that my natural one was pretty quick and complete so almost the same as having a d&c so not sure if that made a difference.

Anila and ferrals- I can't believe you are both still waiting for a/f, hoping she hurries up so you can TTC again really soon. I thought my effort of cd46 was good but you've beaten me. Bit confusing about your temp still being up ferrals.

Mrzbaby- :bluedust: hope your secaond week flys by with a BFP at the end of it. Cherished is right get the bulk tests is good to be able to test as often as you like.

sammyp- glad your body is feeling back to normal hope you are back TTC with us soon.

Vienna- hello and welcome I hope you are feeling the loving support you need from here with these wonderful women.

afm-got an easy working week then going to my besties in the sunny coast for the weekend :dance: Naturopath wants me to start OPKs from today, I've never o'ed before cd17 so I think she's a bit hopeful but here goes. Whats the bet its positive over the weekend!

Whoo zacsmum :happyforyou: so happy for your :bfp: tonnes of :stickyvibesgirl:

ZacsMum - Congratulations. Let us know how the blood test goes. So exciting and encouraging to see another BFP in here. :hooray:

I just got some info from syd ivf clinic from 1st work up appt to the start of ivf cycle is 2-3 mths it is $1545 for first appt not covered then $12,000-$15,000 per cycle 80% back on medicare so oop $4,000-$6,000 plus medications and the PGD test on embro's is about $3,000 so they said i'd be oop about $8,000 i asked could i have more than 1 embryo put in as it is so expensive to inrease my chances they said in my circumstances very possible and also as it is a genetic condition i can find out the sex of the embryo's before they put them in i am just waiting for them to ring me back with a time for 1st appt date

Ferrals - It seems things are moving along for you now and that you are getting lots of help from the people at Syd IVF. Fingers crossed it all works first time round for you. It is very expensive but will be well worth it. I hope you are feeling better today.

Hi to everyone else. I hope this week brings a little more joy and happiness. Are there many in the 2ww at the moment??

Thank's Maddison my tww is still going i was due for RB on sat but it hasn't turned up yet but i had a BFN on sat so RB is just late

Zacsmum Congratulations :bfp: :loveshower::leap::bump::hooray:

yay congratulations ZacsMum, im so very happy for you and i am sending you heaps of sticky vibes!!

afm, today is cd50, and i do believe that this is af on her way, its not enough to reach the pad but looks like enough when i wipe, its browny/red so i am assuming its left over from the mc, so fingers crossed that today or tomorrow is my cd1! Im sad thats its here but glad at the same time. iykwim.

Well today is my wedding anniversary and i cant dtd because i am oficially on cd1!!!!!
Im trying not to let it get me down and trying to look positively into the future and when i do fall pregnant that baby will be even more special, because it its so loved already and wanted so much. I still miss my angel baby, and having af is a reminder that i loss it, but i have to look forward and not back.

CD 49/50 is the record to beat now!!! Im on day 39/40 now, catching quickly (still with an ugly BFN!) ;)

Good onya Anila for taking care of yourself emotionally. Im glad you're talking yourself through the emotions and feelings. :D On the brighter side of the situation, ovulation is just around the corner for you now....................total YAYNESS! Save dtd today and all that 'baby spunk' (too gross) for your precious googy egg!
Im so proud of you hun! :D

CONGRATS again ZacsMum for your BFP!

SuperstarMumsy.......hope you're doing well today, were all thinking of you. :pray:

AFM. BFN and CD 39/40. Im anxious too see the length of my next cycle!!!

Hi all!

I had a wonderful day today with a little bit of uncomfortableness thrown in for good measure.
I went to the Gynae Denise Nesbitt at Newcastle Private and she didnt beat around the bush! She gave me a pap smear which was kinda long overdue then had a chat with me and said to me "you're ovulating which is great, you have had a pregnancy which is encouraging and because you've fallen pregnant your DH sperm are most likely ok, having said that the reports almost ALWAYS come back saying need retest because pathology places are sometimes not as quick as they like to be and that doesnt mean anything."

Then she looked at my charts and said "Ok the next step is to have an internal look so we would like to do an endoscopy."

I almost kissed the woman! FINALLY a dr who LISTENS!!!!!! HOORAY!!!! :confetti:

I will be in for day surgery on July 16th pending the outcome of this cycle. Ill be having a Hysteroscopy (look in my uterus vaginally with a camera) and a Laparoscopy (keyhole surgery to look into my everything) and within that operation they'll do the umm..the thing where they put the dye into your fallopian tubes while they're at it and she said my tubes might just be stuck shut in places so if nothing else (no blockages) they'll flush them open :leap:

Im SO EXCITED!!!!! I obviously want to be pregnant first but this will be great! Ill be happy whatever the out come in appx 2 weeks :D

Still no sign of AF and no symptom's other than pimples i usually have period pain bloating ect but i alway's get a BFP either the day before or day AF due unless i ov a bit later than ff said i had ov pain 2 day's after i was supose to have ovulated god i hate my body i wish we had a simple method to find out yes or no as soon as you concieve i hate waiting.

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Good onya Anila for taking care of yourself emotionally. Im glad you're talking yourself through the emotions and feelings. On the brighter side of the situation, ovulation is just around the corner for you now....................total YAYNESS! Save dtd today and all that 'baby spunk' (too gross) for your precious googy egg!
Im so proud of you hun!

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Well im a little emotional tonight think that might be my hormones though. Hubby said he is gonna save it all for when im oing, so i might ask him if i can use opk so i KNOW when im oing, lol.

yay congrats coco thats eggcellent news!! I hope they will be able to see what the go is and u will be pregnant before u know it!

hugs ferrals, i have my fingers crossed for a good out come for u.

Hi girls,

Superstarmum- thinking of you and sending you best wishes for tomorrow. Big hugs

Ferrals-that sounds like good news from Syd IVF I'm glad things are moving forward for you. Now if we can just get your a/f going. Maybe we need an a/f dance and chant that we can all do when someones a/f gets stuck, you know like a rain dance :dance:

sunny- we'll do the a/f dance for you too or are you feeling any chance of a BFP?

Anila- congratuations cd50 must be quite a record, beats all my past efforts. Sorry RB had to show up on your anniversary, rotten sod! Well at least its here, glad you are looking towards the future and trying to be positive.

coco- you made me laugh :lol:, I've never heard someone so excited to be having medical procedures, particularly down there! I do however totally understand your joy that someone medical is now being proactive with regards to your fertility. I hope it all goes smoothly hun.

afm- I just had to make an appt to see an ear nose and throat specialist as all my horse size suppliment pills have done something to my throat and I can now only take them at night and can't eat any crunch foods or it feels like something is stuck in my throat for the rest of the day and is really uncomfortable. What a great side effect to TTC :wall:

Hi everyone,

just a couple of persies because there are so many posts since I was in on Fri!!

Anila - happy anniversary - sorry AF has decided to join you, but OF COURSE she would - AF has this inate ability to show up for ALL special occaisions, but at least now you are on CD1, so that's good news.

congrats to zacs mum - YAY!!! WOO HOO!!! :dance:

coco - I am pleased you are getting some answers, your spec sounds great!! I am so hopeful for you!!

AFM - well, I've still a week to go on the 2WW, and had a little bit of spotting yesterday and today. I am quietly hopefull (it would explain the feeling sick and the overly emotional) but at the same time, am still very cautious and nervous. We'll just have to wait and see I guess. :pray:

Ooo milly that does sound positive :bluedust: :crossfingers: lets keep the BFPs going.:dance: Did you have a/f since your m/c just curious because I know yours was 2 days before mine but guessing you got a/f back before me?

Milly your chart looks AWESOME!!! Just thought id put that out there ;)

Still no AF no symptom's nothing stupid body never doe's this.

:( ferrals.... My stupid body is still stupid too :wall: I'm still spotting and am annoyed that my stupid body is not ovulating or still pregnant... I am really feeling down about it too.... I think I will have to have the D&C on Friday :crying:

Cherished- aww hun i hope it settles down for you before friday so you dont have to have a D&C if my AF don't turn up by tomorrow i will do one more test i have been getting niggling period pain on and off but i got that in early pregnancy to so like i said i hate my stupid body to ( what us women have to go through ) GGRRRRRRRR!!!!!

Goodmorning Everyone,

Its a beautiful day where i am today. The sun is shining and its not chilly cold like it has been!

Anila - Happy Anniversary for yesterday. I hope you were spoilt by your dh. A shame a/f couldnt wait one more day but good to hear that your body is doing what it should and its getting back on track.

Welcome Superstarmummy - I hope you are feeling supported and loved at this hard time. The women in here are just amazing and so strong. I hope your stay is short.

Smallfryplus / Greenslw - How are you going???

Coco - Excellent news that you have found a great doctor. I bet you are feeling a lot more in control now. And the testing is so soon which is great too.

Cherished - Im sorry that you are still spotting. I hope it eases and you dont need the d&c.

ZacsMum - Any more news? How did the blood test go? How are you feeling?

Milly5 - Your chart does look good. :crossfingers: for you. We need more exciting news in here.

Ferrals4 - Still no a/f! Is your temp still up?? Sending you lots of babydust that this is your month. Did Syd IVF ring you back with an appointment?? Heres hoping you dont need it.

Sunbeam - I love reading your posts. Always so positive and supportive to everyone. You sound like an amazing woman. Why do they make all the tablets so big? I have real trouble swallowing them. My dh thinks its funny seeing me gag on them every day. Hope the e.n.t dr can help you out.

Sorry if i missed anyone. :bluedust::pink-babydust: to everyone.

Hello ladies.

Maddison- that is very lovely of you to say about me being positive and supportive. I am a positive person by nature I think I get it from my dad. His motto for life is "Nil illegitum carborundum" I'm sure its not a literal latin translation but he recons it means "don't let the bastards grind you down" real or not I think it is a great sentiment.

Off to my last grief counselling session which has helped heaps.

Big hugs to everyone :grouphug:

Maddison-yeh i have a ph appt first on the 21st of july it's an hour long then we find out when we start blood work ect they said all up 8-10 weeks from first workup then we start cycle that's if i'm not already pregnant still no sign of AF yet my temp still at 36.7 i will test tomorrow morning if they don't show i'm getting plenty of loving in trying to bring them on but so far nothing.

Morning Ladies!

Cherished, hoping that the bleeding/spotting stops for you, but on the other hand, maybe it is good to get a d&c so it "cleans" you out and starts with a fresh lining? Just a thought, tell me to shut up if you like.. :hugs:

Anila: As bad as it is, Im glad AF came for you!! Now you know what is happening, and its a fresh start

I am all about fresh starts today alledgedly!

Ferrals: Have you done any POAS tests? :goodluck:

AFM It is 4 months today that our angel baby left us and I had been thinking of doing something more to commemorate her. I spoke to DH about this a while ago and have had a good think about it now, and this morning I went and got a little :heartbeat: tattood on my inner wrist.

I wanted to get a white heart but they told me that it always goes yellow within a couple of weeks and everyone comes back to get it coloured, so i skipped that part and got a nice small pink heart which will sit under my belcher bracelett which was a birthday/christmas/wedding anniversary gift and on the same hand as my wedding and engagement rings. :)

Im very happy with it, the guy that did it was really good about it, sympathetic and wished us luck and he sheepishly told me the girl he is seeing just got pregnant but I think he was sheepish because they werent keeping it. He said he really liked the sentiment and thought it was beautiful. It was great because I felt like a "silly woman" in the tattoo place with 4 massive heavilly tattood men ahaah :lol:

They did my other one on my back, its my sisters name and I love it, its in cursive writing and the S (sammy) looks like a treble clef, we're both right into music and performance :)

Hope everyone is having a nice day today. Its sunny here for the first time in like 2 weeks and Im going to go outside and read I think!

Ciao :hello:

Coco-I think the tattoo is such a beautiful idea. I have not yet done anything for my angels but I think that is because I still feel the little spirit with me. I did buy a little snow globe with a teddy inside that I shake every morning for her. My bestie and I were talking about getting matching tattoos to signify that even though we are no longer a couple we are still soul mates. I think it would be lovely to incorporate something about the baby when it arrives as she is going to be the god mother.
Also so nice to see your photo, good to have a face to the name.

ferrals-gald to hear you are making the most of no a/f with lots of loving :D

Just a quick question for those who use OPKs. I know the lines have to be the same strength for the test to be positive but if there is a faint line do you find this gets stronger as you get closer to o'ing or does it mean nothing? Got nothing yesterday but faint line today.

Sunbeam - Im not 100% sure but i think once the line is as dark or darker than the test line thats when you are ovulating. I have had the same as you... Faint line yesterday and darker line today but not as dark as the test line. I also have ewcm so i guess it should be darker tomorrow??? Hope that helped. :)

Thanks Maddison that's great I really hope that any line at all does mean that i'm going to o this cycle:crossfingers:. Hopfullly we'll be in the TWW together. :D

Coco - The tattoo is a great idea - I always feel like I need to something more to commemorate Charles but like Sunbeam says I feel him every day.
Cherished - I am so sorry you have to wait and see re the D&C I hope you are holding up.
Anila - Take care of your heart darling
Ferrals - any news on the AF front?
Milly - that sounds great hon - fingers crossed

afm - I went to see the psychologist my FS referred me to and it was a good experience, I am coming up to one year since I lost Charles and the grief burns brighter every time we get another BFN but talking to her today put a lot of things into perspective. Hard to put into words but I feel better. Will stop rambling!
Much love
Delly

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Just a quick question for those who use OPKs. I know the lines have to be the same strength for the test to be positive but if there is a faint line do you find this gets stronger as you get closer to o'ing or does it mean nothing? Got nothing yesterday but faint line today.

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I get a faint line and it gets darker every day. I consider it a positive if the second line is as dark as or darker than the control line. When you get the + you will ovulate with 24-48 hours so bd on that day... If you are unsure if the second line is as dark as the control line (as in it is only slightly darker) consider it a + and :bd: like crazy! I usually get 2+ ones each cycle and ovulate 2 days after the 1st one.

Hello to everyone else and thanks for your warm thoughts girls

Hello ladies!!!!

Sunbeam - I had an AF on 31/5 - 2/6 (mine only last 3 days), and my cycle is the very typical 28 day, and I ov'd on 14 (though I hadn't been too sure of my ov date before).
When I used the OPKs I got the lighter line before I got the darker line. If you don't get a darker line, then next cycle try twice a day after you get the first light line. fingers crossed you won't need the next one though!!

coco - i lurv your tatoo!!

ferrals - hang in there!!! fingers crossed!!!

Cherished - I hope you don't have to have d&c, but like coco said, at least it will give you a "clean slate". I know it's no concelation, but it has to be better than all this bleeding. superhugs.

Maddison, dellydoo, and everyone else I may have missed :wave:

AFM - thanks for the babydust ladies.
I am still not sure what is happening, my temp is still up, but I'm now on the third day of spotting.
TMI ALERT: Well spotting is probably too strong as in its only on the toilet paper, not enough to come out on my pants - sorry if TMI.
I have only ever had 2 day "spotting" from implantation before. I mean the time is right but implantation usually only lasts for one day, not three!!
And I don't have porno boobs like last time, so I'm not sure...
New mission: I will NOT anlayse every microscpic bodily symptom.... (yeah right!!)

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Hi Milly :) I thought the technical term for spotting was that it does not get on your liner, so it is only on the tissue?... And if there is one thing I have learnt it is that each pregnancy is different... I remember the symptoms so clearly as the they were so close together and both times were very different.... I have NO idea when I am pregnant so from now on I am just gonna have to go with the flow... That is a BIG dip on your chart, hope it's a good sign for you ;)

Hey gals,

Cherished- thank you for the info on OPKs :crossfingers: for a big happy o even though it may come smack bang in my proposed weekend up the sunnny coast. If i get to go I'll wave to you from Kings Beach.

Milly- I've never had implant beeding so can't offer any advice on that one sorry. Love the porno boobs term, I still have mine from last pg so goodness knows how big they'll end up if I get pg agian soon!:o

Dellydoo- i'm glad the psychologist is helping. It has certainly helped me to have some counselling around my grief.

Hot chocolate time yum yum. Night night.

Sunbeam yummo I was thinking of having a hot chocolate but I did a workout instead... I looooove hot chocolate! enjoy :) I right up the other end of the sunny coast but enjoy your weekend with your friend :)

dellydoo nice to hear from you and I too am glad the counselling is helping

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Hi Ladies. I think you are all sleeping.
How is every one?. I think time is going so slow for me, so next week we are seeing a Gynee and hopefully we will be given a go head with TTC.

Hi All

Coco - I wanted something to commemorate my baby too. I have one of those Pandora bracelets. I thought I might buy a little angel for it.

Sunbeam - I never had much luck with the OPK's. They never went as dark as they should and would cause me a lot of confusion and uncertainty about whether they were indicating anything. In the end I asked my doctor how to read them and (she is very blunt) she said throw them in the bin as they are not accurate enough to predict anything. Everyone is different. After I stopped using them and taking note of CM I found that was very accurate for me personally and that's when I fell pg last time.

AFM - I dyed my hair tonight. I figure if I am TTC next month then I won't be able to do this much longer so I am making the most of it.

Hi Vianna, I think it is safe to say that most of us were sleeping :P I will be great when we ar both back in the ttc game !

Sammy, I am saving my hair dying for when I have lost some weight... atm I only dye over my greys so it's neer really changing... It's just brown! But I will start going a little lighter when I reach my goal weight YAY

AFM I have been pregnant or recovering from being pregnant for 6 months straight and I am really P1ssed off about it! I am however feeling good about my workouts and eating :rolleyes: can't wait to get home from work to do another one :dance:

I HAVE JUST HAD 2 CLIENTS IN A ROW ASK ME HOW MY BABY (PREGNANCY) IS GOING AND I NEVER TOLD ANYONE I WAS PREGNANT :crying: THEY MUST JUST THINK I AM FAT :(

Morning girl's

Subeam-OPK'S i usually get a light line for a few day's before i get a darker positive line which i get like 4-5 day's of really dark lines so with me it is not easy to tell as my temp show's when i'm supose to ov but i get ov pain 2 day's after that and i know my ov pain i get it every month so i try to BD the day's before.

Coco- great idea i have my daughter's tiny (actual size)footprints her name and date of birth tattooed on my wrist and my DH has an angel with her name tattooed on his wrist so she is with us always.

Dellydoo-i am also seeing some one as i don't feel i am coping with losing abbi and every mth i get a bfn or when i see pregnant women it's is a painful reminder i'm glad you feel better.

Milly-i have never spotted at implantion so i'm not much help and my whole life i have been a 28 day cycle maybe a day late or early if ive been sick but alway's spot on and since i lost abbi my cycle is not right since march it's been 2 or 3 days of really light spotted cm then AF turns up and i have been 2 or 3 day's late now i'm 4 day's late so my cycle has changed.

Hi sammy what colour did you dye your hair?

Vianna-i was at work all night or i would of chatted with you.

AFM my stupid AF just wont come i have tested got a BFN but my temp has dropped so maybe they will come tomorrow anyway DH and i have decided we are going to go the PGD IVF first before the government get's rid of the 80% rebate in jan so if we get pregnant great if we dont then we can go on to try natrually because if we try natrually and wait the 12 week's and find out the baby is affected then have to terminate and try IVF our time might run out to get the first cycle of IVF before jan but if we do it first and it fail's then we can go on and try natrually for as long as we want as we only want to try the IVF one time and $6000 vs $14275 is a big difference so it wont happen until sep or oct if i do get pregnant in the meantime i will still get all the ivf testing done and be ready to start if that baby is affected ,well that's our plan now i'm not sure i want to chart to try to avoid getting pregnant so i don't put off the IVF GOD i'm so confused i feel we have had such bad luck that i will stop trying and get pregnant and that baby will also be affected but i don't feel right avoiding getting pregnant (this is why AF is late STRESSSSSSSSS)