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Hahaha smallfry. Im not going to lie yeah Im temping but the only reason Im doing it is because the gynae/FS will want to see the charts so Id rather do it than not...I have like 50 days of my account still on FF so may as well use it :rolleyes: I am sick of it all though. I just want to not try at the moment :( I love that you come in here still, I love your posts :)
aww thanks coco :hug: This group is just too close to my heart to leave now. And your reasoning behind temping still is perfect. :)
milly - when's your exam? Saturday was it? Seems there are so many people studying in here I can't keep track of it all! Mine this morning was abysmal. The room was so hot that I couldn't think and it was making me seriously nauseous and I couldn't think straight. I should email the markers and let them know but figure it doesn't really matter, I only have to get 3/25 to pass the unit... assuming I can pass the unit but fail the exam that is!
Hi ladies,
coco - I have heard of the lunar cycles, and it does sound a bit "out there", But, having said that, a friend of mine is a horticulturist (works for Nat Parks) and swears by the lunar cycle for planting. I had done some reading on lunar and cycles and historically (way back when), a woman's cycle would be in line with the moon (I can't remember which phase was when though!!!), because there were no lights at night, and the light of the full moon - either brought on AF, or was the fertile time - light to shag by - can't remember which!! LOL. THere *may* be something in it, but then it may all just be a load of B/S. A friend of mine who was undergoing IVF was also having accupuncture and reiki and reflexology as well - all because there was that slim possiblity it just *might* make a difference, and made her feel like she was doing something. Having said all of that, I would probably give the fertility specialist a go first and hear what they have to say.
Smallfry - I have decaf on my shopping list!! It's just that I'm cold and home alone and procrastinating that I want to moan about coffee ;). I am just having a cinamon and cardamon tea at the moment, and although nice, just doesn't cut it!
Sorry your exam was not good, I think it would be worth emailing your tutor and letting them know, everything helps in my eyes!! My exam is Fri, and I am not looking forward to it, and I am still procrastinating my way through my last essay.
Oh well, break was long enough, back to work, bye ladies!
Milly thanks for that hon, yeah ill remain partial to it, im just depserate! lol
Smallfry, decaf isnt that bad, I went straight onto decaf as soon as i heard it wasnt good and I had headaches and was really pi$$y for one or maybe 2 days but after that i was fine! :) I dont drink coffee for the caffiene tho i just like the taste hehe so doesnt bother me!
I'm with you on the taste, have only been drinking coffee for a couple of years and used to hate the smell/taste anything then started drinking mocha and moved onto coffee and love it. Unlike you though coco, I had to wean myself off it! Gradually added more decaf each time til it was straight decaf otherwise the migraines would have been intollerable!!
milly - good luck with that essay and exam. I'll email my lecturer and give them a heads up. Not sure that they'll care much to pay attention though as I did walk out half way through the alotted 2 hours!!! Thank goodness I'm on the other side of the country and the examiners wouldn't have a clue who I am here!!!
Hi All
Well the doctor told me my levels are back down to 3. She says that's good news as it rules out any false positive readings for when I do start trying next month. Now I just have to wait for this first AF so I can get things moving again. I'm around day 18 if i count back to the M/C.
I got not such a nice letter in the mail. I miscarried overseas and it cost $475CD for the hospital fees (as well as the ultrasound which was $200CD)). We paid at the time but today in the mail I got another bill for the same amount. When we first went we were there from 9 at night till 3 in the morning and then told to come back at 10 in the morning for the ultrasound and the results. I presumed that to be one visit but now I am thinking maybe they call that two visits and we only paid for the first one as the second time hadn't been added to the bill before we paid. I'm not keen to pay anymore. We're still waiting to see if the insurance company is happy to pay the first bill or whether they will cause problems.
Gee wizz so many posts, too many for personals, so ill just say hi to everyone, and hugs to thoose who need it and baby dust to everyone.
afm, still no af cd43.
bumped into a mum from dance we hadnt seen in a while and she asked me if we are having anymore and again i just blurted out we just lost one.
Thats twice now, i dont know what else to say really, yes would be logical, but i say we just lost one, why do i do that, cause then i make them feel bad for asking and i feel bad for saying it. sigh
oh anila! u poor thing! maybe you should 'practice' (i know it sounds childish) such a scenarion in front of the mirror. give yourself the chance and time to have different reactions, but get it out. i know you feel bad about your reaction, and being asked is difficult obviously for you right now, big hugs hun. BTW have you been to the DR for a blood test? I think AF cant be too far off. Im waiting just like you, just not as long as you!
I hate having LLOONNGG cycles! Less chance for a miracle! :rolleyes:
sorry for the whinge
winge away sunny, i so know what u mean about having long cycles, i was sure i od back at cd 17-19, i had o pain that i normally get, i just give up, i am so at lost with my cycle, and my dr wont do a bt till ur 6/7 weeks from lmp. And its been 6 weeks today, so if no af and no bfp on fri i may go aand get a bt then.
Well i was just texting my cousin, some may remember she was further along than me, but had her mc a week after mine, and i told her that im still waiting for af, well she said she got hers at cd 25, *sigh*. But her mc bleeding stopped a week before her af started, my mc bleeding was only a week long. Why does this extra long cycle feel like such a tourture, i wish the spot and tinge cm was my af, but i dont think so, i wish it was implantation, but i dont think so.
I wish i knew what was going on..
I got my AF a week after i would normally...um..i cant remember what day, but its on my charts. I didnt have spotting mid cycle..And my nxt period, while a little heavy or crampy, was otherwise normal.
Hope something happens for you...maybe you know what??? I know what to do to bring AF on, and it ALWAYS works for me!!!
Go draw a bath with a nice oil or something, give your WHOLE body a do-over, you know, shave your legs, pumice your feet, body scrub, paint your nails, do a mini facial, then do your hair nice and put some sexy undies on and seduce your man...and BAM af ALWAYS starts when i do this hehe... :D
Can I join you guys? It looks as though my bub has died (doc says 95% chance) as I should be 7w3d and the us measured 5w3d, but I am very very sure of my dates, so I have to have my hormone levels checked again tomorrow and he has said he will then refer me to the hospital. Can anyone tell me if they have had to have a op in the hospital when the bub has passed? This is the first time I have been pregnant and am feeling very down about the whole experience and just feel so empty! It is so bizarre to go from the elation I have felt to the sorrow and sadness I am currently experiencing. I dont even know if I should be in here as I am still carrying.
Also, I am very keen to start trying again does anyone know the timeframe that I should expect to be try again if after I have the op?
Thanks for your assistance
Superstar:
Sorry hunni, have you been bleeding? Or was there not a heart beating? Cant belive they didnt confirm anything while you were there!!! Hoping by some chance the little one is ok xxx I didnt have an op, i had a natural m/c bought on with the same stuff they give to women to bring on a labour. But anyway, they said I could have the op but i voted against it because I had a D&C when i was a teen:redface: and didnt want anything else to hinder my chances of conceiving again.
Hope you find some answers soon!!!
Ps...dr said if i had the d&c just had to wait a full cycle to let the uterine lining the bulk up again enough for healthy implantation.
Hi Anila
I always feel I have to tell people I just lost a baby - I don't know why. I think that will just run it's course and I will stop saying it when I don't feel I need to anymore. My brother and his wife lost their baby daughter a few years ago but when I run into old friends and they ask about my family I always mention her because it feels like a lie to say my brother only has three boys and then I feel foolish afterward. I feel the same sort of foolishness now when I tell people I just lost one. DH is very much into minimalist conversation and even he has told people we lost a baby when I wouldn't have expected him to.
Hi Superstar
We had to wait 12 hours for confirmation as well and the wait was agony. I kept hoping the first Doctor was wrong but sadly he wasn't. He used a very old ultrasound but said he couldn't confirm until they could get me a more sophisticated ultrasound.
I didn't have to have an D&C as my body got rid of things itself a couple of days after the M/C was confirmed. I was 11 weeks but there was no baby to be seen and the sac looked as though baby had stopped growing at 8 weeks. Also my hormone levels dropped back to almost zero in a short space of time. My Doctor says have one period after the cycle and then you can begin trying again. I hope this helps.
Hi superstar- I'm glad you felt able to join in and I hope we can offer some support :comfort:. I'm very sorry to hear about your situation I know the wait is agonising. I really hope your little bub is still okay :pray: I m/c naturally the first time but had a d&c the second time. I never even though to say no as I was so exhausted and dopped up on morphine. I think there are choises though and you should get more info to decide what is right for you if that time comes.
Hi to everyone else. It was so lovely to know I was missed, you are all so gorgeous :grouphug:
awe Superstar hunni, i offer u hugs and my support just like the other girls, i pray that bubba is still ok, and that u get to hear a heat beat soon.
sammy thanks for that, i feel better knowing im not the only one.
Hi Superstar :pray: for you and your little one...if the news isnt good then you are definitely in the right place. I m/c my first pg in April and would have been lost without these beautiful girls. Am thinking of you :hug:
Anila I hope RB comes for you soon, I too have no idea when it will turn up, after so long bleeding I don't know when to start counting from, as in CD X...so don't know if I am on the TWW or not...i hope you get some certainty soon
Coco good luck with your FS appt :)
Hi to everyone else and :pink-babydust: :bluedust: to all.
K
Hi Ladies,
Anila - I think it is fine to tell people that you lost one. I personally think that people have no right to ask. I am always getting asked "when are you having kids" and it PEEVES me no end. I don't believe it's anyone else's business if and when we have kids -I don't see them in the bedroom! Being 37 and with no children I am asked this alot.
If they feel bad about the answer, well then that's their bad luck. Sorry for sounding harsh, but that's my soapbox.
I just found it a really hurtful question when we were TTC and not succeeding, and just as hurtful following the m/c. I sooo wanted to say to the fat cousin that kept asking me (about having kids), "when are you going to loose weight?" but of course THAT would be rude and personal.
Hi Superstar, and sorry that you are here. I hope you have some answers in the morning.
Hello everyone else!!
Hey all,
Sammy - i can't believe they would charge twice, what a kick in the teeth :( i hope it is covered by insurance for you.
Anila - I've still got my fingers, toes, arms and legs crossed for a BFP for you! i've also blurted out twice this week to work colleg that we just lost one. I think it is cause I got a bad cold when I was first preg & had time off, then M/C and time off now a cold again and everyones like - oh you are still sick and next thing you know you blurt it out!
Superstar - hi, sorry you may need to join us and fingers crossed you do not. Ive had three natural m/c and one d & c from a missed m/c at 11wks (bub was only 6wks). Its really something to talk about with your doc and partner. The d & c I only had becuase of complications although in some ways it was good to know it was all over with and to try to move on. Some will tell you one cycle, others three cycles before you try again. Some lovely ladies on here have gotten preg and been fine straightaway so I don't know that there is a correct amount of time to wait. (I have tried immediately and am in the tww).
Sunny - with ur long cycle could it be?
I can't wait to be seeing BFP's all over the place in here. I wish I could test now...the waiting is painful. I;m desperate for that bfp but also petrified, the stress till at least 12wks will be horrid. I'll be giving up my city job straight away and will get part time out home. I knew this time that I needed to take it easy and kind of blame my bf for not giving me the support I felt i needed when I told him it was getting to much.
Next time I don't care - bubs number one and that will be my first priority. Makes me feel kinda guilty and there is a part of me that is 100% certain that I'd still be preg if I had of listened to my body like I knew i should have :(
hi ladies, It's about me but it's just something I think we all need to be aware of as it never occurred to me...
I went to the doc this afternoon. Found out something interesting which has me a little concerned. When I mc at Easter, I didn't go to the doc because I was only 5 weeks and it all happened cleanly - so cleanly that I began to question if I was preg and if I hadn't been able to actually feel the embryo in there (like I can now), I would think it was chemical. Also, so many people said to me not to worry because it was only 5 weeks and unless the bleeding continued or I had fever etc. that it should be ok. This was backed up by all the info I read on the internet about early mc and how if it goes 'well' there's no need for medical intervention. So all that coupled with the fact we were away when it happened meant I never saw my gp until today. I had need to call a girlfriend and talk to her today about hospitals as I've decided to book in where she went, and she asked something about my blood type. I'm rh- and she said she is too. Said that I should talk to the doc about it and get my antibodies or something checked to make sure I'm still ok and don't need anti-d injection. When I mentioned to him that I'm rh- he asked me if I saw a doc after mc and when I said no, he said 'oh well, it's too late now, we'll just have to hope it's all ok.' Also said that if I get any spotting at all, I am to go to ob or to him for check up and to arrange anti-d injection.
So now I'm feeling a little worried but think I should be ok because I didn't even get any implant spotting so... :crossfingers: (I'm also quite sure I'm now overreacting and simply feeling a need to find things to worry about since I'm so used to worrying about things!)
superstar - I hope so badly that you have not lost your littleone. But if you have, you will find such support in here.
re telling people you've lost a baby, I think that it needs to be done. I think people throw out that question (when you having kids etc.) without any thouht at all about if it's actually their business. Telling them that you've lost one may make them stop in their tracks before asking someone esle the same question and hurting another poor woman who has had her heart broken.
:grouphug: the love is there waiting to grow inside, I can't wait til it does.
[QUOTE=Smallfryplus;re telling people you've lost a baby, I think that it needs to be done. I think people throw out that question (when you having kids etc.) without any thouht at all about if it's actually their business. Telling them that you've lost one may make them stop in their tracks before asking someone esle the same question and hurting another poor woman who has had her heart broken.
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I agree Smallfry! BUT I still didn't tell anyone... maybe because all the people asking are at work and I don't want my boss to know anything about it... If it were 'friends' I would tell them how insensitive it is to ask etc etc.... GOD people make me soooo mad now that I think about it again! :wall:
Hey SmallFry - to my knowledge those with rh- required injections BUT if u r looked after it is not an issue...ur doc is aware so I am sure it will all be good for you :)
x
o tina hunni, please dont ever feel this way, u and ur body did nothing wrong, unfortnatly this is just what happens.:
Makes me feel kinda guilty and there is a part of me that is 100% certain that I'd still be preg if I had of listened to my body like I knew i should have
I do understand the guilt, i think at some stage we have all been threw it, but it is never ur fault.
welcome superstarmumsy! i too had to have a d&c, and in hindsight am glad because I was able to start grieving sooner, was prepared emotionally even tho i was and still am a wreck!) because of the op. i was very angry and hateful at the time that 'god' and 'mother nature' were making me remove my wanted baby through medical intervention, maybe still am, but we work through it TOGETHER us girls. thats the beauty of our forum! i hope you find some peace soon.
AFM: Still waiting, got a BFN this arvo. Aarrrgh!!!!!!!
Time to eat my slow cooked thai green curry and feel better!;)
Hi cherished goddess, and coco, LOVE THE NEW TICKER!! AWESOME! WHAT A GREAT THING TO COUNT DOWN TOO. EXCITING!
thanks luvs :hug:
smallfry......when i had my d&c the DR insisted i get the anti D injection as otherwise statistically things wouldn't be in my favour in the future otherwise. goodluck hunni!
Um ...am I the only one who had a natural miscarriage with the assistance of Misoprostol??? Shouold I be concerned about this?
TinaR I have one of those thoughts. the day I started spotting (was tinged CM actually) was valentines day and it was the first day i had wore heels...and also it was the first time i wore jeans since last winter and i was feeling boated that day and to stretch my jeans a little I got down on my haunches to expand them a little (god i sound crazy). I keep wondering if thats what caused it...i know its a dumb thing but its like we need to look for something to blame, and no matter what, it is always something to do with myself that I blame even though i know that it wasnt indirectly my fault..:hug: you'll get through it and next time yeah you will stress, i know i will, but ill be relaxing alot more and not working so much as well!
Hi ladies,
Tina - I feel like that too, I think what if I did this or didn't do that, but really, I don't think it would have made any difference, it's just me looking for an answer and a reason for it all.
smallfry - when I went to the hospital after having my m/c they asked for my blood type, because if you are a Rh-ve and the baby is positive, and the baby's blood mixes with yours, then you can have clots and other problems, that's why they give the injection, or that was my understanding of it anyway.
coco - I am not familiar with that medication at all, my m/c was well underway - you could almost say over, when I went to the hospital. I wouldn't be concerned though, because obviously there was a need for it if that's what the dr prescribed. Perhaps it was to avoid a D&C?? :hug:
good night everyone!!
Hi Smallfryplus
I am also RH- and when I went to the hospital they told me that it was best to have an anti-D injection within the first 72 hours. They said it was to prevent any problems with subsequent pregnancies where the baby was RH+. The doctor also said that, even though I knew my blood type they had to retest as in rare cases peoples blood types can change (never knew that before!) My Mum told me she was RH- as well but they never gave shots in her day and she had five healthy babies. I'm sure you will be fine.
Good lord!!!
I go to work and miss one night and i have a lot of catching up to do.
Milly-there is some really nice decafe coffee's out there just buy the smallest jar and try it first my fave is riva (i think) i'm in bed i will check later and tell you for sure but it's a funny shape jar with a black funny shape lid and i think it's as good as normal coffee.
Coco-i don't know about lunar cycles but i don't believe in it the human body is pretty complex enough without worrying about that stuff.
Sammyp-glad to hear your hormone levels have dropped not so good about the bill in the mail.
Anila-I know exactly what you mean if i run into people i havn't seen for a while and they ask how i have been i tell them about abbi and what happened and then they feel bad and i feel bad for telling them but the way i see it i want people to know i had a daughter and i dont want her to be like she never existed i supose i will stop doing it when i think everyone that i want know's about her that's my therory anyway.
Superstarmumsy-i'm so sorry you are going through this i hope we can all be of some comfort while you are going through this awlful time.
Greenslw-how did your u/s go is everything ok?
To all my other BB girl's sorry i missed you but my sister has just popped over for a coffee i will be back later.
Hi All
At least we had some good news. DH rang the hospital in Canada last night and said he didn't feel we should have to pay two separate bills as we really felt it was all the same visit. The woman consulted her manager and they agreed to drop the second bill. Phew! I seem to have a neverending pile of bills so it was nice not to have this one. The dog cost me $500 in vet's bills in the past week as she has a corneal ulcer.
good morning beautiful strog women!!!!
hope ur doggy is ok sammy p. my doggy Axel broke his leg last year, $3000 later thank you very much! good thing he is beautiful cuddly beast because he repaid it back in cuddles!
oh and smallfry!! i didnt mean to 'scare' you with my post last night! i just re-read it and thought i couldve worded it better. sorry luv!
ive heard of mistpostal (sorry about the spelling) coco, i was offered it before i was the d&c but was advised against it because of the side effects. my OB said she does adminsister it during miscarriage but only at a particular hospital that is set up to handle the side effects (excessive blood loss). i opted for the d&c just so it was over and done with. im glad that you had no side effects and from i gather its use is pretty common, depending ususally on your OB.
hope your doing ok Superstar mumsy..........kind wishes to you right now.
anila........still waiting???
hi cherished goddess! hope you have a beautiful day and enjoy that homemade bread youalways eat......mmmm smells gewd!
and Tina....i know what you mean about work and that fear of another bfp. i look back at my first prg and think 'did i over do it?'. listen to your body, it gives the best advice!
take it easy cheesy everyone!
oh.....AFM....if anyone is interested. Still waiting! Starting to get twinges and pulling so notlong now.....HURRY UP WITCH! ;)
Morning ladies :)
Smallfry sweetie I totally understand why you would be worried but I am also Rh negative, when I m/c'd they gave me the anti-d but I was told at the time that it was purely precautionary and not a neccessity as it was quite early- I have also found research online that might comfort you:
"If you are RhD-negative and you have a miscarriage in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy you will not need anti-D, provided the miscarriage was "complete" - i.e. the bleeding stopped on its own and there were no pregnancy tissues left in the uterus."
Also, if your man is rh neg too then there's nothing to worry about at all? :crossfingers:
Tina I know exactly what you mean, my work was really stressful when I was pg, and the day I started bleeding I had been helping DH in the garden...my brain knows its not my fault but my heart is another story...I think it makes sense to control whatever you can to minimise the risk...
:goodluck: to everyone on the tww, am looking fwd to some more BFPs in here xxx
Hello lovely ladies,
Superstar- any news, still thinking of you and hoping the best for your little one.
Smallfry- have you found out any more info on the injection? Is it not possible to have it now or is there a time limit? Thinking of you hon, not like you need any other worries at this point in time
SammyP- tha'ts good news about not having to pay the second bill. I've only just finished paying the bills from my m/c in April. Suppose that's my fault for going private but it makes it hard when things in the mail keep reminding you of the m/c.
Anila- how's it going are you going to beat my cd47 before RB shows up?
Greenslw- how was the u/s we are eager to hear?
afm- I am taking donor dad to my naturopath tomorrow so we can get him on their special herbal mixture too. Apparently this clinic was seen on Today Tonight (I never saw it) and have really good success with helping couples have babies. His swimmers are okay but it can't hurt. Sorry no smiles/emotions my computer won't bring them up! Maybe it needs some therapy!
km1 thanks heaps. I did a bit of reading too and have calmed since. Not sure what DH's blood type is. He doesn't know either! lol Guess that's not unusual though.
Missed your post sunbeam - yeah, no need to have it now and they'll only need to investigate if I bleed. My mc was clean and quick so it seems it won't be a problem. *sigh*
Time for a new thread my loves... You will find it HERE