Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss May 2010

[Matthew's Mum]

kitfaerie-such a lovely post,look forward to hearing your updates...reet-i had bt to determine'o' when on clomid,it varied with me(different months i was on different doses)yes i would me asking my dh to come home for a couple of days,i have used opk as well & found they gave me the 24-36 hr period of time...craftymummy-thinking of you,i'll still have my fingers crossed for you...saffy-will this be your last cycle with the clomid?..loops12-be watching for your next poas result ...big hugs everyone

[Alice]

oh gosh, I feel such conflict tonight reading this thread.

But first:

CONGRATULATIONS KIT!!

What wonderful news you lovely woman - hugs and congratulations to you and I wish you the most happy and healthy and trouble-free pg and that you enjoy your little earth baby in your arms in nine months. Lots of love to you.

Now for the sad bit.

Millyd - I had to read your post twice...so sad that this might be happening to you and like Crafty, I think 32 is so young to be told no more, I really pray your DH changes his mind. Please keep up with us so we know how you are doing.

Kit, I'm gonna miss you! Please drop by and say hi - will feel a bit lonely here without your cheeriness, you've been so generous and loving in the support you've given to me and others, I really appreciate it.

Sigh...Crafty, you too? It's meant a lot to me to have someone my age in the thread - feels tough being over 40 and TTC. I'll miss you muchly but understand and wish you all the very best no matter what you decide. x

Ferrals, I know you've been through such a lot loosing your little Abbie and to have this as well, well it must be very hard for you. I won't ever forget the tribute you made for Abbie - you are a strong woman and I so hope you and your DH get to experience the joy of another baby very soon. Sorry to see you go but I understand.

Mildez - so sorry for your BFN. It's not fair that it is so hard. I hope your IVF brings your longed for baby. About what you said earlier - it is a different type of grief dealing with both MC&L and LTTTC and sometimes it has been hard for me here and I've had to step back a bit. But on the other hand, I had a very lonely journey until I found this forum and this thread is really the only place in my life where I feel others 'get' how hard this is, even though we've all had very different experiences. I have felt very supported here but I know what you mean. I'm sorry you have had to live with the pain of infertility too - I feel like a part of me will always be missing if I don't get to be a mum and stupid things like friends not inviting us to things because we don't have kids really hurt (like a recent camping trip where they all went with their kids 'cause then the kids can play together and they can have time out - would have been nice actually to have some time out with them but they don't even realise what they are doing or saying that hurts) - you miss out on so many levels.

I think we need a I feel so sad for everyone tonight.

MurryCod - I hope you'll stay - I would be lost without you here! You were so welcoming when I joined it was a life line to me and I hope I can give you support back for your cycle. Hoping with all my heart this one will be the one for you. And if you and Kit and MatthewsMum end up in the same BB group I'm just going to have to go lurk there xx

Girls I know there are others I haven't mentioned personally and please don't think I don't think of you or aren't interested in what you are going through - I am. I read every post, it's just hard to get to everyone each time but know I am always wishing you the best and wanting you to get your BFP.

Love to everyone
Alice xx

Betty - I'm sorry, I haven't even welcomed you to the thread. Sorry to read of your loss but hope you can find some comfort and support here. We have sad times (as you can see) and sometimes we all loose it and have a good laugh. Anyway, hope your stay here is short and your body settles down soon - it can take time like others have said.

[Porsche]

Hi Ladies

Kitfaeri - Congratulations on your BFP. Hope you have a H&H pregnancy and it's totaly uneventful (in a good way).

It's sad to hear that we are losing some ladies. I understand why you feel you must go. It is such a terrible road we all must travel and we all need to do what is best for ourselves. You will be missed greatly and the advise you have offered will also be missed.

Betty - Welcome. I haven't been here long but I have found great support here. I don't always reply but I do read all the posts and they do comfort me when I am struggling.

[TTCALoveChild]

KIT FARIE CONGRATS!!!!!

Hey Ladies i thought i stop in here and say im doing ok.. in some pain .. came home yesterday and went to bed and was pretty much up all nite with pain and it hurt when i took a breath..

So i went down to the ER and they did a chest x-ray and comes back that i have air on my lungs from the procedure. and they gave me some more pain meds to help with the pain and if it gets worse for me to go back down.. right now im doing ok.. but when i lay down it hurts.. so i might be setting up in the recliner tonite to sleep.

I really dont know the results only what DF said.. bt he is soo forgetful about things.'
but he did hear her say that i will be able to have a baby..( well i knew that cause i got prego) and she flushed my tubes with blue dye.. i keep peeing it out..lol df said what is that..LOL

I go see her for my checkup on the 14th so i will know more details.. and know what she actually said..


so Sorry no personals

I do wish you all best of luck
and welcome to any new comers and verysorry for your loss
and sticky vibes for the ones that got BFP and very sorry for the ones that didnt get one this month..
hang in there ladies..

xoxoxo anita

[Matthew's Mum]

morning everyone ,ttcalovechild-sorry your in pain,hope those meds do their job,results sound good so far...porshe-where are you up to?..alice-are you back on track with naturpath plan now your home?..betty-how are you?...mummy of 4-how did your scan go?..

[Porsche]

morning everyone ,ttcalovechild-sorry your in pain,hope those meds do their job,results sound good so far...porshe-where are you up to?..alice-are you back on track with naturpath plan now your home?..betty-how are you?...mummy of 4-how did your scan go?..

Hi Matthew's Mum

For the last couple of days I've had EWCM so I'm really hoping that I am Oing naturally. I hope I get a + OPK tonight and then 2 days later I would hope to have a temp rise so then I know when to expect AF. We are TTC this cycle even though it is straight after M/C but we aren't if that makes sense?

I'll just be happy to get AF so we can start really trying on clomid again. FF has given me a guide as to when AF should be due. So hopefully it all works.

I really really hope my body is doing what is supposed to and not just tricking me. I hope the PCOS is being nice.

[possum magic]

Firstly Kitfaerie: I am so happy for you! Please keep us posted with how things are going. I'll miss your cheery funny posts.

Saffy: sorry you've been visited by the blues. I can sooo relate: it's hard going through all this and i'm sure extra input of hormones- the clomid- doesn't help matters. I hope you exit the fog really soon. Hugs.

Like Alice i feel rather conflicted about everyone leaving. I'm scared of saying the wrong thing so I think i'll just keep it simple and say: good luck to all the ladies who are moving on. Sorry you aren't leaving for happier reasons. I hope you'll pop back from time to time but regardless, wish you all the best on your journey. (Alice thanks for saying things better than i could).

Millyd: hugs to you. I hope that your bleeding didn't mean bad news but if it does, i hope that in time, it might be something your DH is willing to reconsider or that you will find some peace with his decision.

AFM: Feeling horribly hormonal since yesterday. Cramps on and off. Headachy. Sore bbs. I think the wicked witch is coming...though i think it's a bit much to have symptoms kick in this early: i'm not due before Sunday at the earliest. Not happy Jan.

[possum magic]

Just wanted to do a few more persies:

TTCALC: I hope you feel better soon. My friend had a similar procedure and said it knocked her out for a few days too. (She got pregnant the next month after 12 months of trying and without any reasons being found by the lap procedure for her lack of success before then!)

Reet: I can totally understand why you would be upset about missing a month. When you're in TTC mode it just feels like you desperately want it to happen and you want it to happen now! It feels like a month is a long time. (On the other hand, if you find that you have no choice but to miss a month or more of trying, it is possible to find ways to manage. I was in "It must happen now" mode but then was forced to wait three months to try again for medical reasons. It felt like a long time in one way but in another it took the pressure off for a while which wasn't a bad thing).

Porsche: Hope you pop that eggie soon!

Dory: Hope you are ok. Thinking of you.

Mathewsmum: not sure where exactly you're up to in your cycle but hope all is well

T-Hopes: Make sure when you come back you bring the sunshine with you (figuratively speaking. It's a bit gloomy in here... well except for Kit who is a sparkling ray of it all on her own...mwah!)

Iona Macca, Sunbeam, jellylove: Hello!

Sorry if I missed anyone.

xx

[craftymummy9]

Thanks for your comments,
Alice so nice of you to think of me even though it seems I am at the end of my road, I got a second opinion today and still the same about 5% chance of conceiving naturally every month which is not enough really but I guess its better than no chance !
As I am 45 now clomid is out of the question just because in WA the cut off age is 44 as they say my eggs are old and not of good quality ! GREAT thats all I need to be told but you know I still have hope and I have been told its not impossible so to use contraception if not wanting a pregnancy !
I am trying really hard to stay away from here as I feel its not helping me as I must accept defeat but you know what I just can't stay away I am still gonna try and I still want to know how everyone else is doing so I will be lurking but I have to get my head around this news of unlikely to fall pregnant again feels so cold to say that !

Kitfaeri hope your still well and got a really dark line by now !
Porshe sorry your hormones are all over the place mine are too I think but with me its perimenapause ! some days up the next day down can't win really ! not having hot flushes though so thats a bonus I guess lol.
TTCLC sorry your not too well atm hope your feeling better soon relax as much as you can and before long you will get a BFP !
Thopes missing you hope your having a good week away !
RIC were are you not been here in ages,
Ferrals hope your lurking thinking of you we need to stick together I know its hard but we need each other ! please reply
Murraycod bet your getting a bruise now from all the stabbing hope your doing ok whats the plan in the next week ?
Mattewsmum Hi hope AF don't mess you about ( well ok if its a natural BFP then OK ) but if not hope you get your new cycle on the way soon,

Anyone know how I can get hold of some clomid BLACK MARKET STYLE LOL

[Alice]

Crafty!! Yah, you came back. 5% is still worth fighting for - plenty of women have bubs over 45 and given you have had so many already, I reckon you'd be more fertile than most. Glad you've decided to stay or pop in 'cause we love having you here. X

Possum - thanks for your catch up post with thoughts for everyone. Hope you're feeling a bit better today - damn those hormones! I hate feeling like that.

TTCaLC - hope you are feeling much better to - I hope you can get the rest you need with all those kids to look after. Sounds like Ron is doing a great job keeping you in bed recovering. Blue pee eh? That'd be freaky Let us know how you go when you see your FS soon.

MatthewsMum - did you have your blood test to time when your next embie might be transferred? How are you feeling?

MurryCod - how are the injections going? Are you into the scans and blood tests yet? Thinking of you. Have the dogs got used to your little kittens yet?

Reet - don't worry love, we've all been there! I can remember some really frustrating times when I was still trying naturally to conceive and having stupid things get in the way like work - or in our case, my husband would be off doing a gig or something (he plays in bands...back then five of them so not exactly conducive to TTC!!). Like Possum said, sometimes an enforced break is good for us too - so anyway, hope you got it sorted out.

Porche - still waiting for things to settle down? hope AF arrives soon (funny - not! - how when we want to have her, she gives us all kinds of grief!)

Kit - Are you getting lovely strong dark lines now?? Come and let us know. x

Saffy - when does your IVF start? Have the pimples gone down?

Loops - was it an evap line? Is the baby dust coming your way? Let us know!

Ric - we are all wondering how you are going. If you are lurking, please put us out of our misery

Ferrals - hope you're enjoying your kittens

Dory - how are you going?? Thinking of you!

Mummyof4 - haven't heard from you in a while - all good?

Sunbeam - are you IUIing?

How about our other escapees? We like visits and updates.

Lurkers? Hello?

to everyone else

AFM - well, was supposed to start IVF this month but after seeing a chinese doc/accupuncturist, I've decided to wait a month. Was feeling good about it - what's one more month? - but everytime I go seems I have to start a new something that I'm sure will help but now I'm feeling a bit frustrated. My digestive system and liver seem to be the problem, under-active thyroid and so on. Am going to go to my GP to have a few blood tests to check some of these concerns, not 'cause I don't trust her, but I don't want to be worried about anything I don't need to. I really was feeling like throwing it all in - the odds are so low of anything happening but then I got to hold a new baby yesterday and I fell in love and so want to have one of my own so I'm pushing on. Hoping June is kick off time but I guess will have to see how I'm tracking with the Diet of Despondency (that's for you Audex!!) and temperatures (which are still low). I'm now on herbs too so it's a bloody miracle to remember everything each day. Anyway, feel like I spend a lot of my days whinging so better try to find a happy pill of somesort (dairy-, wheat-, sugar-, caffeine-, alcohol-, cocoa- free that is AGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! there I go again!!)

Alice xx

[KitFaerie]

Loops: How you going? Any more testing? Hope your doing well!

Saffy: Hope the clomid symptoms have calmed down a bit, it brings you closer to your baby love

Reet: Sweetie if you can work out a way to not miss a month, then go for it. Every month feels precious, although having some enforced time can mean that you have some space to breathe and get into a more relaxed head space. Until the TWW anyway, lol!

Crafty: It's only a 20% chance each cycle for a 25yr old, so 5% at 45 is pretty awesome. LMAO at black market clomid, you could start a whole new career as a clomid dealer, lol!

Porsche: Thanks sweetie, I hope your BFP is just around the corner.

Alice: Oh darling, I just wanna give you a big hug! Then we could watch trueblood, lol. I'm glad you find some support here, your such a big part of this group, mwa xo

TTCALC: That's brilliant news about the lap, glad it went well. Sorry to hear your in pain though, I'm sure it will be worth it Now your tubes are all flushed you'll be sure to put them to good use

Possum magic: Interesting symptoms, they're of the could go either way variety, I had headaches before I got my BFP..I'll keep my fingers crossed for you xoxo (Oh I admit it, I smell a BFP in the making! Eee!)

AFM, the line's not as dark as I'd like, but they're pretty dodgy tests and they've come up earlier each time, and my temp's still high. My boobs are definitely telling me there's a baby in the making, but I love them, bring the pain! My birthday was yesterday so that's why I wasn't around, had a really nice day with DH and my sister and her DP, going out to dinner with friends sat night. I do have a confession though -I dont wanna see a doctor. I dont want bloods. Well, that's not true, I want blood results, but I'm quite happy at the moment and I feel like if I start the ''process'' something will go wrong. But, I can definitely recommend MACA, that's Audax and I who took it for a month and got BFP's. DH took it too. Could be worth a shot?

Muchos grandos love!

[KitFaerie]

Alice! We replied at the same time, keep at it love, the Diet of Despondancy will turn into the Diet of Delight! But probably not the Diet of Deliciousness. DO NOT throw it in! You've got the chance to have a baby, take it. One more month is nothing, the most important thing is that you feel it's the right time. Fear is normal though So the right time, with a little bit of fear. Good luck babe xo

[Iona Macca]

Hi girls,

Kit: sending you heaps of sticky vibes

Alice: hopefully everything works out for you sweety.

Loops: Hope your doing ok!!

Saffy: How's the symptoms going, I hope they have calmed down.

Reet: sweety, hopefully you and hubby work out a way of not missing your 'o' time!

Crafty: 5% is still a great chance especially at 45, darn about the clomid

Porsche: hope these symptoms lead to a BFP sweety

TTCALC: So glad your lap went well. Hopefully it's your turn next

Possum magic: fingers crossed that your next for the BFP

AFM: CD15 for me not sure if we caught the egg or not but time will tell, OPK's didn't help too much this cycle as I missed a couple of days and I didn't get a full dark line but I have found over the last couple of months that when I 'o' I seem to get sick or a lil run down...so annoying

take care everyone xoxox

[murraycod]

KIT, DARLING, MY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, GLAD YOU GOT MY MESSAGE THE OTHER DAY xx TAKE CARE AND I PRAY YOU HAVE A H+H PREGNANCY xxxxxxx

Ferrals, we will e keeping in touch X

Millyd, honey it is sad to see you go, know that I am thinking of you, and pray that your dreams will too, come true one day XX We will miss you here.

Mildez, I 100% agree with a new LTTTC post M/C and Loss thread. I will definately join!!
We know your intention is not to offend anyone, you are just looking out for our hearts X
This place has been my saviour since I joined, a place where I can chat to other women who are feeling the same way I am, but sometimes this place can also be my downfall. Having people fall PG around me in real life is slowly killing me from the inside, and this place has been my saviour, but the past few months, I have found it hard to be here also, watching everyone move on. It sort of makes me feel like I am failing.
That I am going to be the girl that has been here for ytears and years sitting in the corner, that everyone feels a bit sorry for. And I just don't like feeling like that.
So thank you, for thinking about our hearts XXX

Loops, still no AF??? Update please!!!!!! To get a BFP, naturally would be the greatest thing!! OMG I would be stocked for you!! ou have been through a journey yourself TTC, and you do it with such grace XXXX

Saffy, I hope you are starting to feel better, and your face starting to clear up.
The IVF road isn't that bad babe if this is where you choose to turn....I am excited, and gratefull I even get an oppurtunity to even do it XX

Reet, don't feel silly. We all have a dream that we would go to the moon for. But honey,'come what may' and take each month, each week and each day as a seperate journey. I know it's tough, beleive me.....
But we can't force it, as much as we would love too.
It is hard enough on both of you as a couple who love each other so so much, to deal with your loss and wanting to fill that void you both feel. So mabey, just a honest suggestion from me, focus on flirting as much as possible by text while your Darling DH is away at his job, and make him feel just as importaint, as both of your goal.
One thing I have realised over the past 5yrs TTC, and especially after my M/C, my husband comes first to anything, and if that means not BD'ing on the right days as much as I would have wanted to, I have given it a miss, and BD'd just for the fun of it, and beleive me, he did notice, and he did respond.

Crafty, we are so thankfull to have met you here, you have been, and are such an inspiration to me, you are like mum to me (a young mum ).
You have always looked out for me, and given me advice I would like my Mpther to give me, if she were here. So thank you.
Thank you for reminding me so often, that this fight is worth fighting, and heart ache is worth aching for.
Love to you, and please drop us a line to let us know how you are going. Dont stray away too far darling, I need you!!
Oh, I have a spare script of Clomid that's no good to me, whats it worth to you!!

Alice, I'm still here with you!! Toughing it out and jabbing away. What you said in your post was lovely XX
Yes the dog still want's to kill the kittens!!
Honey, June will be your month, you are doing so well getting so healthy, you are going to make a great mother XXX

Porche, go catch that egg girl!

TTCALC, sorry to hear you are in pain, but it is great to hear all is well X
Will be watching for an update on the 14th X

PossumMagic, tell AF to stay darn away! Your ticker is pretty cool, I definately don't miss you when I am scrolling down the page!!!

THopes, I hope you are enjoying your week away XX Thinking of you babe X

Sunbeam, how are you? Did you sneak that 'O' in, in time this month??XX

JennaJayeen, how did your Appt go? I hope your Hip is not hurting you so much X

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Kit happy Bday by the way!
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Sarahrach I'm sure there's more of you!!! Love to you all XXXXX

AFM, still Jabbing away. Have a scan on Monday to chexk the development of my follies, then I am guessing EPU on wednesday 12th.
DH is organising a couple nights in Adelaide, so we can celebrate my B'day which will be such a nice break.
I'm doing ok, last day of work tomorrow for 2 weeks which will be nice.
Had beter go let the kittens out for a play in the sun for a couple hrs, be back later.

Love to all XXXX Keep your spirits high XXXX

[Matthew's Mum]

afternoon all,murraycod-good luck for monday,a couple of days away sound lovely...ionamacca-fingers crossed for you...kitfaerie-all sounding good,of course all our bfp's well come with some worrying,one day at a time,try to focus on the positive stories... alice-have to wait for af to show before i have bt,hope you found your happy pill.s...possummagic-hope your feeling better today unless it's a sneaky bfp of course...craftymummy-5% is still 5%,so you never know...porsche- did you get your pos 'o' stick?...thinking of everyone..loops12-have you tested again yet?...

[Porsche]

Hi Ladies

Matthews Mum yes I got my very definate + OPK. And I know this will be TMI but I've had heaps of EWCM. I have never noticed this before (other than on clomid and even then it was nothing to write home about) and now I have it in abundance. It's really gross lol. Feeling very uumm moist to say the least eeewwwww.

I'm a bit excited just quietly. I've never seen my body do it's thing naturally.

[dory]

Just a quick message from me til I catch up after my weeks secondment to a "busy life". Not to worry back to normal now. I am a year older - big 37 now. Don't feel as old as the numbers suggest. All good here. Everything went well for us this week. It's nice to actually feel genuinely happy from within and even start to have some hope that things might work out. Maybe there is a glimmer of hope at afterall for the future, rather than just taking it one day at a time.

I will catch up and be back. I was so tired after my "busy week" that I have spent the day in bed, either snoozing or just resting.

Thinking of you all and can't wait to see what mischief you've been up to and to read about Ferals little kitty kats!

KIT - I am equally excited about your news too. OMG well done. I am sooooo exicted.

And Murray - I can't wait to hear more about your kitties too.

[craftymummy9]

Hi ladies

Thankyou so much for reminding me I still am in with a chance even if its 5 % a month didn't realize a 25yr old was 25 % so I guess its still a chance ! THANKS KIT ! seems you youngsters can still teach us oldies a thing or two ! Happy Birthday for yesterday how old are you now is it 28 or 27 oh how I remember being so young enjoy your next 8 mnths and grow a big fat belly

Murraycod you little tease with the clomid wonder how many people still have a box in their knicker draw ! the women next door could have some too wonder if its worth looking on ebay !!!
Hope your birthday is just peaceful and relaxing and the very best day you could dream of and jsut think this time next year you will be celebrating with your little Harvey ! cake all over his face ! or Harriet or maybe a pair how exciting your on the way girl your a few weeks away from the most wonderful experience in your life a BFP again and this time its gonna stick !

Iona macca FX for your TWW its dreadful the waiting hope you can keep busy and your mind off things for a bit know how hard it is to do that but hey you could get a new hobby !

Porsche yay for wet knickers its all good bit slimy but thats what we need ! I should be joining you in that department in the next week well hopefully anyway unless my body decides not to play the game this month !

Alice I hope my posts don't put you off I do get a bit despondant at times but just because your over 40 don't mean time is up I had 2 already in my 40s it does happen ! Thanks for reminding me 5% is still a chance ! Hope your meds are starting to work I admire your stamina cutting out all the stuff thats bad for you and I hope your GP can put your mind at rest about your liver and thyroid its such a worry isn't it ! Mine came back ok when I had my bloods done !
June is not that far away for the start of your Ivf journey must be exciting to know you have a plan !

Possum magic we had our mc around the same time so I know how hard it is for us both at the moment the 9th month mark is nearly here and it feels like for ever until we get a BFP but we have to keep going we will get there one way or another keep smiling and think only positve things I am trying too and its the best way to be !

Matthews mum yes you are right as always 5% is still a chance I will keep telling myself I am not out yet ! My DH is so sure it will happen he is such a beleiver don't know what I would do without him and you ladies keeping me going ! Not long now till you start your meds again ! 2nd time lucky I think !

Everyone else sorry if I forgot you Dory you nearly half way the light is at the end of the tunnel your belly is growing and you will hold your little miracle real soon a big fat 9lb I hope !!!! mine were all big babies !