Where There's Hope - Wishing you all the best for your ultrasound today. I hope you don't need that op on Wed. our prayers and thoughts are with you.
Smilanatu - I hope you didn't wear poor Lee out this time.
Easha - I'm praying that bt will bring back the "right" answer. It's horrible being held in suspense. And that's just the rest of us, never mind how you feel.
AFM - We're still feeling a little sad over Kelly's death, my youngest DS had made a page of pictures and his feelings on his computer, it's really lovely. I went down the yard with our other dog this morning to put a pillow in her house, she was so sad, she looked inside the house like she was looking for Kelly. for all of us.
Where Theres Hope... Nothing I can say or do is going to ease what you are going through and the anguish you are dealing with. I completely understand holding on that slimest of slimest chances.... and my heart goes out to you... but while that slimest chance is there... I would still be holding onto it. HUGE HUGS HUN
Easha--Enjoy your day off and lunch with your friend! I'm so glad you're getting a BT done today--at least now you'll know for sure one way or the other... I'm still praying it's a BFP--temp still above coverline! :goodluck2:
WTH--Oh, hon, you're in my thoughts and I'm praying for a miracle for you! Big Keep strong and don't give up hope!!
smilanatu--Contrary to mollycat (though I know she meant it in the nicest way possible!), but I do hope you wore Lee out! Keep it up, girlie, wear yourselves out--it's O time, baby! Tell him there's a competition! lol...
issy--Glad to hear AF is gone! Sounds like you've got everything all planned out for your fresh start at TTC in Jan. Does this mean you're going to be leaving us?
tutmae--Wow! Look at that high temp this morning! I would have to say that I think you've O'ed girlfriend! Bet you'll see a coverline in just a few days!
mollycat--Oh, I'm so sad for you and your family--and even your dog, that's just so sad! Have you made a decision yet on breeding your other dog?
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Not good news I'm afraid - AF arrived soon after I posted this morning
I went and saw my doc anyway who has now referred my to a gyno to figure out what is going on - she thinks I might be having progesterone problems. I can fall pg but not maintain it cause the progesterone drops when it shouldn't hence the reason for the late AF.
Dont' know what else to say - shed a few tears, feeling pretty down
Going to restart the FF again and see how we go this month - another April baby on the way
Sorry for being all about me - will catch up with you all later tonight
Easha~ I'm sorry to hear what happen !!! I'm going to pary for you to sweetie just keep hope that you will have a lil bub soon !!! another stay strong !!!
Well I'm feeling kind of down right now I had to go to two baby showers today the first one I just dropped off the gift and left but the other one I stayed until the end and when she started opening gift's I got so sad !!! Ok I'm off to bed I'm such down mood right now ...
Toccara: oh babe, so sorry your feeling crappy. Its so hard isnt it. Yesterfay was my EDD, and i spent the day shopping for my SIL whos baby is due next week. Ive come home and had a little cry myself. thinking of you babe.
Easha: oh no....so sorry about AF arriving, we were all so hopeful for you...wow, i think there are going to be lots of April babies huh!
jen: tinking of you...cant wait for you to start POAS!!! when will that be?
WTH: your in our thoughts and prayers babe, please let us know how you go...
Issy: does that mean you wont be popping in anymore? wed love to still hear how you are going anyway, with your degree etc...
plc: hope your cough goes away and you dont have to worry about the antibiotics...
chappas: hope you and DD are better babe
van: hope AF stays away hon
hi to everyone else...
afm: still feeling a bit anxious...cannot wait to do another BT this friday....just not feeling very pg, you know? i had so much MS last time, and this time nothing, so, as we do, im stressing!
Tina - GL with your BT - Remember that every pg'cy is different! With DS I didnt get ANY MS at all at any time, but with my last chem pg, I had it from wk 3, so you just never know! Im sure everything is going to be just fine, but we all understand your worries. Keep smiling hun And dont worry, Im not going anywhere...I dont want to miss out on anything and I dont want to loose you guys, you have all been such great support and I dont want to loose that.....but one thing I DO WANT is to loose you guys in TTCAML, by Jan, you are all going to be in PAML!
Easha - Sorry to hear AF arrived We all understand how dissapointing it is. Look after yourself and treat yourself to something nice.
Angel babies - for your BFP hun.
My EDD is just around the corner and Im not looking forward to the day - but in some ways it ok cause things would have been much more difficult and stressful if we had a baby in 2 weeks, so I guess things are meant to be the way they are!
Ok, thats it for now - look after yourselves ladies and remember that we are all strong, beautiful women, and we will all have our new babies soon, so keep the hope and faith - we WILL all get there - BELIEVE IT!
Hi everyone. Wow. I feel like I have been away forever, even though it has only been a few days. Really busy over the weekend with the birthday celebrations and all. So I?ll do persies first, and then a AFM at the end. I?ll just go through all the posts in order, so no doubt you?ll end up with more than one reply each!!
Vanaithi - Typical bloke thing, yeah. Thanks for the birthday wishes. Hope you get a BFP too.
Tina -Thanks for your kind words. I?m looking forward to reading further on and seeing what your BT says.
Easha -Actually it was a pretty ****ty birthday overall. What with AF showing up, and cake?? My DH didn?t get me one!! The Friday night out was really good though. Had a good time. Had one drink, but only cause someone bought it for me. I?m not a real drinker, and wasn?t feeling particularly ?partyish?. I am so looking forward to reading on a few pages till I see your BFP!!
Jenushka -Sooo happy for you that you have heard a little heart beat. How exciting!! That?s so great that you have passed you mc milestone. YAY!!!!
Easha -Bugger, we are going to Perisher from 10-16 Aug. How cool would that have been if we could meet up.
KL -Really hope that your sooky day has allowed you to heal a little.
Angel -Glad to hear that you have been an emotional wreck (meant in a nice way). I really hope I will be reading about a BFP soon!!
Tutmae -Thanks for the birthday wishes. I think that you have Oed somewhere between Saturday and Monday, so yay for the BDing on Friday!!!!
Jen -but I've already paid for skiing and I?ve been waiting all year to go. Please can I go????? I?m out for the BDing challenge. DH looses interest if we do it too often, and I don?t want to wear him out before I O. That?s if we decide to do it this month?.
Smilanatu -Thanks for the birthday wishes. It was the 17th. I don?t know how AF got in. grrrr. Hope your BDing weekend went well
Angel -They say that you can?t tell if you?re UTD by your CM, but mine never went dry and it should have. So if it stays creamy/sticky, I?d say YES!!
Jen -Hope you didn?t injure yourself reaching for your thermometer. And you said it was DH that was the dare devil. You need to wear a helmet to bed girlie!! Tell DH to go and huff and puff to someone who cares. Tell him you have to wake up too!!!! Your temp won?t take itself!!
Ruthie -That?s a b!tch about your BFN. Sorry to hear that hun.
Easha -Hope those AF cramps are implantation cramps or something.
Plc -TMI?? Don?t worry. Do one else will listen to it and we have to ask questions somewhere, right?
Angel -I got my first response HPT from Woolworths. I find they are cheaper there than chemists too. I can tell you that the Woolies at Ascot definitely has them. Prolly info too late for you though. I?m sure you have found them by now.
Ruthie -How exciting about the line. Can?t wait to read on ?. May be your 3 year old is a clairvoyant?? Ruthie, I just spoiled the surprise for myself, looked at the bottom of your post (which updates on all posts, even old ones), and I see BFP flashing at me.!!!! YAY!!
Angel -so excited that your DH is excited for you!! Even if he is telling everyone that your UTD, even tho you don?t know yet.
OK, so I?m not even on to the new thread yet and I have been here for ever!!!! Going to have to start skimming the posts or I won?t be home in time for dinner!!
Jen ? Thanks for not forgetting about me. Not sure how I?m feeling at the moment. Will let you know when I make a decision on that.
Vanaithi ? Crazy things to get UTD? Well it seems I can get UTD, just can?t stay there. So I BD at night and straight after we?re done, put a pillow or 2 under my butt and legs up the wall to help all those little guys flow in the right direction. I then go to sleep and don?t get up till morning, unless I need to pee. This way they don?t fall out until the morning!!
Mollycat ? Sorry to hear about your little doggie.
Toccara ? don?t know if I?ll be in the running for a BFP next month ? see how things go.
Yeah ? I?ve hit the new thread.
OMG over 3 pages!!!
Easha ? Sorry AF arrived. Kick her in the ar$e.
Luna ? Nice to meet you. Thanks for the comforting advice for Tina
Jen ? Thanks for still missing me!!
LizzJessie ? Hi Nice to meet you. Hope you get your BFP this cycle!!
Ruthie ? Couldn?t see your photos on the screen, just X
Mollycat ? Thanks for missing me
Tina ? Hope yesterday (EDD) went ok. Nice for you that you have a little one in there to keep you company.
Issy ? thanks. I would love to be in your shoes with all that knowledge around me!!
Plc ? hope your mum gets better soon.
Chappas ? hope your throat feels better soon
Easha ? I go for pads, then I can check every time I go to the loo!!!
WTH ? Saying a little prayer for you.
Issy ? good on you for being strong and holding out. Don?t know if I?ll be able to do that. Perhaps I should??
Easha ? Same with me. See AFM below ? How many times has this happened to you?? This is my 2nd time.
AFM ? So, it?s been a while, so will do a bit of a recap? got some brown spotting on Wednesday of last week. Was hoping that it was old implantation blood, but AF turned up on Thursday (my birthday!). Coped pretty well when it arrived, other than a little bit of cursing in the toilet. But started to feel a bit ?quiet? out at dinner that night. If it wasn?t organised with others, I would have just stayed home. Had a cry that night, no had a big bawl. A bit of a combination of the MC/AF and the fact that it was my 30th birthday and DH seemed to put in next to no effort, and he didn?t really seem to be too bothered about MC/AF. Was so grumpy!!
Friday morning I had a dr appointment and my Wednesday afternoon blood test showed a HCG of 4. They HPT?s that I was taking show at 10 and 20, so obviously I was at that level and then dropped down to 4 by the Wednesday. I?m guessing, and spoke to my dr about it, that my big temp drop may very well have been the drop in my progesterone, which caused the MC. Turns out my progesterone was very low in the BT too, lower than it should be so he thinks that I may be MCing because I have low progesterone. Said to wait a month and see what happens. I am hoping to make another appt with him and try and get a script for some progesterone pesseries. Can a normal GP give a script for this, or do you have to go to a OBGYN?
So after my dr appt, off to school again, and seemed to have a pretty good night out at dinner with about 30 family and friends. But when I got home, felt a little low again.
Saturday was really really tired, and Sunday, a little tired too. But just plodded along and tried not to think about it too much. YEAH RIGHT!! So I decided that I would have a month off cause we?ll be skiing in my 2WW and this could be bad for the implantation and if I get the progesterone pesseries I won?t be able to lie down for 20 mins after inserting them cause I?ll be on the slopes. Bu then talking to BF (who has been really great though this, and is currently in her 2WW) and she sent me this email ?
i know what ur saying. and logically, it sounds correct. but each time i wrapped myself up in cotton wool and just relaxed and did nothing, it always ended in m/c. my theory is that: u stres more cos u've got nothing else to do/think about; less oxygen getting to the uterus hence less nutrients; less feel good hormones circulating also cos ur not having fun. with preg #4 (Harry) i made an effort to do nothing diffent to what i already was (except foods). i know skiing is more full on & bit cold, but if u'll be rugged up and if u take it a bit easier it should be ok. all the movement wont cause m/c cos inside the body there's no gravity when the embryo is so small. many ppl get preg accidentally and do things like skiing then find out theyre preg and stress that they've been skiing. but if the embryo is fine after that, u know its got a good chance at not m/c.
worse case scenario is that u m/c as early as last time and try again next cycle. if u dont m/c, skiing cant harm the baby.
but of course, it's all up to u. it's not going to harm u to try. and this cycle could just be the one that sticks. u never know. so if i were u i would give it a go (not being biased, that's my honest opinion). i would always stress that u never know which cycle would be the one to stick, so never wanted to miss one.
decisions, decisions.....
So, now I don?t know whether to wait or not. And I?m sick of discussing it with DH cause he gets the $hits talking about it all the time (what he thinks is all the time, but is really only about a hundredth of the time that I?m thinking about it!!)
Pretty much back to business today. It?s good coming to school. I didn?t tell anyone this time, so I didn?t have to talk about it and I can just pretend it didn?t happen.
So I have tried to make a dr?s appt but couldn?t get in till Monday next week. Want to do some research about progesterone pesseries when I get home and see what I can find out. Easha, would like to hear your story. Who are you going to see about your progesterone??
I would like to try this month, but don?t know if it wise, I would be skiing the day of and a couple days after implantation.
Don?t want to miss this month, cause if I take the progesterone and still MC then they can go testing for something else, in stead of waiting a month, then MCing then testing. It?s just a waste of a month. DH is so tired of my impatience and I don?t really know how to deal with him. I think I will just find out every thing I can and visit the dr and then discuss it with him when I have all the facts. I may even visit another dr cause I don?t want ot have to wait till Monday, especially if I will have to go to a specialist for a referral.
So, I may be away a little, trying to keep my mind on other things for a chance. We?ll see how that goes. Will definitely keep you up to date though and let you know what happens.
Take care.
Love Joey
xxx
There's lots of ? where they should be - or '. Sorry!!
Hi all - Got night shift for the next 3 nights in a row so will be popping in every now and then before and after my shift.
Angel Babies - I hope this is your cycle! I'm glad to hear that the tests are going well for you, I wish it was that easy for me
Jen - Thanks for the prayers and baby dust. DF is actually excited about TTC this cycle because he knows how much it would mean to me if I was UTD and I was due on my bday!
Ruthie - In the 2nd pic I can see the faint faint line, but the first one I couldn't see anything.. I hope it's good for you!
mollycat - Thanks! I hope you get your long awaited BFP! I'm so very sorry bout the death of the doggy I know how you feel, Even though I didn't know DFs dog for long, after my m/c, he was the kindest, sweetest dog - it was like he'd changed completely towards me (one of the first times I'd met him, he nipped me - then he'd just keep running away from me) then he'd curl up next to me, fall asleep on me. Anyway, on the 7th of April this year (I remember because it was the 1st day of my orientation of my new job) I got a message from DF saying that they needed to put him down - he'd been suffering from fluid in the lungs for almost 3 months and it was not to that point where he was basically drowning on the inside. On the 8th of April (12 days before my birthday) little Max was put down (this is him : https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...84&ppuser=8944) To this day, I still miss him so much. The day that it happened, everyone cried except me - and three days later I did, I cried and cried for two days straight. Like I said, I miss him so much, but when our house is built, we're looking at getting our own dog - It won't replace Max, but it will help me get over it.. Sorry about the long post!
Tina - Sending you prayers for your Angel's EDD - I saw the post yesterday and said a prayer. I'm also sending prayers to you for your current bub, I'm so sure you'll be fine and hoping you have a H & H pregnancy
AJC - I can't believe you're ticker is going so quickly! Hope your enjoying your pregnancy
Easha - So sorry bout the BFN and AF. Hope you get a BFP very very soon!
Issy - I looks like you're taking a break until the same space of time as me Good luck when you do catch you egg and get a long awaited BFP (I know you've been waiting for a long time)
Lisa - Looking forward to seeing if you get a BFP or AF - Though I am hoping it's a BFP because you've been trying for so long!
PLC - Hope your doing well and enjoying your pgncy
Chappas - Sorry you and DD have tonsillitis Get well soon!
tutmae - Good luck! I hope that you've caught the eggy and that you'll be UTD!
Vanaithi - I hope you get a nice BFP (and a nice temp rise too!)
Krystie - I'm usually in the chat rooms around that time because my body is so used to me doing nights shifts - good thing I actually do have night shifts most of this week!
WTH - Oh I hope everything is ok - sending lots of hugs and lots of sticky vibes!
Toccara - So sorry you feel so down, sending lots of big hugs your way.
Joey - Nice to meet you too - I'm hoping I get a BFP this cycle, but if I don't, we don't mind because we can at least wait and concentrate. I HATE when AF turns up on my birthday! I've had it happen three times (thank goodness it had started before my birthday this year!) and it's cr@p because your usually in a cr@ppy mood. So very sorry you had a M/C - Sending massive hugs to you!
AFM : I found an OPK in the bathroom (cleaning up because we've got a rent inspection on Thursday) and thought I would use it.. I looked at the time and said 'You know what? I'll use it on CD15' because we'd be well into our BD session!
Anyways, if I don't get UTD this cycle, we'll be waiting until AT LEAST after the wedding next year, so I don't mind whatsoever - even if it is a 'whoopsies' one that happens either on our wedding night or beforehand :P
Issy and Liz best of luck over the next few months - please pop in and say hello as often as possible
Tina - best of luck with the BT Friday
Joey - ooohhh what a bugger we are not going skiing at the same time. No cake for your birthday - whats with that !!! I will be Ov a few days into the snow trip hence another reason for going... I figure I have been trying for 6 months now and cant waste a month.
I also had a quick look at progesterone options on the net as well, there is even a cream that can apparently be used that works just as well. I will try to get into the gyno over the next wk and will let you know what he says. I am afraid he might just fob me off and not understand how much this means to me. I read a few horror stories on the net about gynos that dont want to help until 3 MC's. I am just going to have to be very firm with what I want. I think I will also go on B6 tomorrow to support the luteal phase. Let me know what you find out cause it looks like we are going through the same thing.
AFM - AF is hitting quite hard - painful and very heavy
Jen - I think I'll be going to Borders on Friday so I'll have to get that book! What's it called again? Just kidding! You told me so many times I swear it's imprinted on my brain
LJ - I really hope that your "one more go" turns into a beautiful birthday present!!!
Ruthie - I looked at your stick pictures, and I'm pretty sure that there is something on the sticks in the first picture! Didn't you say that you need to have injections when you first find out you are pregnant? Maybe you should assume that the faint lines are a definite BFP and make an appointment with your Obs asap. I'm getting very excited for you!
Mollycat - I hope you DS is feeling a little better The page of pictures he made sounds beautiful. And it probably is helping him to get through this sad time to do something creative like that.
Tina - I was thinking about you yesterday on your angel's EDD. I'm dreading my angel's sue dat. It must be a comfort to have your angel's sibling in your belly, but I'm sure it's still a very hard time to go through.
What did you buy for your bubba and yourself?
I can't wait until you have your obs appointment!
AJC - Hi!
Easha - I was so sad when I saw your temp drop I was hoping really hard that it wasn't the start of AF. I'm so sorry that this wasn't your month. At least you get to have an April baby with the rest of us
I'll try to pop into chat on Friday night too to see you.
Issy - Very cool that your mum (and half your family) are able to answer questions for you! I thought for a moment that it would be great if my mum was a midwife, then I realised that if she was I wouldn't be able to get away with not having her in my room during labour. Lol, as much as I adore my mum, I don't think I could handle her during childbirth hehe.
Acria - I hope AF has stayed away for you! You're so strong to hold out until Thursday morning to test.
Angel - I do the same as you! Test from really early and I don't get too upset by the negatives because I'm convinced that the BFP is just around the corner. I tell DH that I'm just "practising", lol, as if I need to have a couple of practise runs to make sure I can get the pee in the cup And I knew exactly what you meant about kind of easing your way into a BFN. I'm sure that's not the case this month though!!!
Ummm, have you seen my pills?
Plc - Hi honey!! Hope to see you in chat soon
Chappas - I hope the tonsil are ok My brother just had to have his out, but he's had ongoing problems with his for years. Feel better both you and your DD!!
Tutmae - Nice to see you jumped back on the temping bandwagon! Oh, and it looks like your temps on the way up too. YAY!
Van - AF is NOT due on Saturday. In fact AF is not due for at least another 9 months!!! Good luck when you test chicky!
WTH - I hope with all my heart that you got good news today at your ultrasound. My thoughts are with you sweetness!
Smilanatu - Awwww, I wasn't being naughty. It was all Jen and Angel's fault. I was trying to be a good girl and all their naughty, sordid vibes MADE me be bad. Can't you see my halo?
Toccara - Oh the showers must have been so hard for you! I'm glad no-one I know is pregnant at the moment. It's hard enough seeing strangers with their babies, let alone having to be publically happy for a friend. Hmmm, that kinda sounded bad, but I know you all know what I mean...
Joey - You super-poster!
I think I agree with your friend. If I were you I would still give it a go. I figure that the worst case scenario if you DO try is that you conceive and then there are problems with implantation due to skiing (although I don't think skiing would effect things...) and you won't fall pregnant. BUT, if you DON'T try this month then you definitely won't fall pregnant. At least if you do try then there is a chance of a baby.
Unfortunately I can't help you with your questions about the pessaries.
I am jealous you are going skiing though! I've never been skiing. In fact, the only time I have ever seen snow was when I was a toddler!
AFM - Not much going on at the moment. I'm working an extra couple of shifts at work this week, so hopefully a little more money for the savings account (that I call the "baby account") hehe.
Unfortunately I have still been a bit down in the dumps, but I'm going to keep trying to be positive because I know sookiness doesn't help when TTC'ing! Maybe the crappy weather isn't helping!
easha: sorry that af's being such a b*tch to you & for even rearing her ugly head at all! hope you find a great gyno to help you in your ttc journey!
joey, issy, liz: this cycle is the last for you for a long time!
plc: i'll take rotten papaya! rotten papaya is still papaya! thats one to my theory hey!
jen: i cant be on tonight to chat sorry! can i take a raincheck? is anyone going to be in the chat room this friday (thu for you us girls)?
wth: my thoughts & are with you...
afm: thanks everyone for your banishment of af for me.. but nothing can stop her im afraid.. last night i had a little blob of white gooey cm... same as last cycle so im very certain af is coming for me friday... i wish i could say im wrong but it seems im always right! (darn me & my rightedness) before, i thought i would be ok if af came, then last night flood gates burst open & it felt like the day my baby was snatched away... i couldnt take myself to work today. & af's not even on my doorstep yet! not sure that i will be on the chat room this friday, since its af's due date, im not sure how my emotions would be.. but i'll try hard to meet you all there!
good night ladies... sweet dreams of angels & cherubs...
Hello.... has anyone seen Kryties pills... hello.... ummm ....hello...... hold on I know... shhhhhh let s listen to see who the smart ar e is...... that we will know who has taken them..........
our prayers and thoughts are with you.
for all of us.
Keep it up, girlie, wear yourselves out--it's O time, baby! Tell him there's a competition! lol...
I would have to say that I think you've O'ed girlfriend! 
Bet you'll see a coverline in just a few days! 
!!! Ok I'm off to bed I'm such down mood right now ...
And dont worry, Im not going anywhere...I dont want to miss out on anything and I dont want to loose you guys, you have all been such great support and I dont want to loose that.....but one thing I DO WANT is to loose you guys in TTCAML, by Jan, you are all going to be in PAML! 
And I knew exactly what you meant about kind of easing your way into a BFN. I'm sure that's not the case this month though!!!
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