Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss ~ March 2007 #2

Hi guys...... Sorry in a hurry.......

Sorry to here about your loss Satya, on the return of your period it varies from person to person it took me 10 weeks but others are 4-6 weeks normally but nothing is normal with me unfortunately...

Miss Belinda HUGE HUGE HUGS im sooooo sorry that he said that could you see another Fs??? I wish you all the best matey....

SP i had the same thing would spot think she is coming then it would turn brown and stop i really really really hope that doesnt happen to you matey....

Well did have a temp rise but it didnt drop to much either it went from 36.0 to 35.9 so fingers crossed wait and see i guess........

SP I think you are having the same thing as me with AF, didn't you say that you normally have light AF anyway? I like the idea of a flowering cherry which blooms in spring, just so that I can remember my baby, but I have also been thinking about buying a helium balloon and going and sitting somewhere nice and peaceful, then saying a little prayer and then my goodbye (just to let go) and at the moment when I say I goodbye I will let go of the balloon, if that makes sense.
bekz read post above to SP about what I plan to do for my ceremony.
sarah066 I like the idea of planting a special plant, especially one that blooms in the spring.
missbelinda77 I can imagine it would have been a very disheartening FS appointment, especially when you have done fabulously losing 6.5 kg already.
satya sorry to hear about your loss, I had a miscarriage in 1998 and couldn't remember when things got back to normal after that one either, but, I wasn't charting then, and had to put TTC on hold until I got my other medical conditions fixed first.

mouse - yay on the all-clear to TTC again! Wishing you luck!

Sarah - hope the dentist visit wasn't too painful! I also had some fillings done recently that are still hurting and it has been 3 weeks! I hate dentists!

Sharon - sorry to hear that you are still having a hard time :hug: I agree with what some of the others have said - you don't need to let go or forget, I think letting a balloon go is a good idea. And I thought you told me you had put away the pg book! Naughty naughty ;) .

satya - welcome and sorry to hear of your loss. My AF took 6.5wks to come after my first m/c and 5.5wks after my second. Hopefully you won't be waiting too long!

Belinda - so sorry to hear about your appointment. I can understand your frustration, and what a fantastic effort with the weight loss! I agree - it isn't meant to be this hard and is something most people just take for granted, so why do we have to go through this? Are you happy with your FS or thinking of going somewhere else?

SP - the tracking cycle is to monitor my hormones throughout my cycle, and then they do a scan as close to O as poss to check that all the hormone levels are where they should be throughout my cycle, and can show any possible deficiency which could be treated with clomid or other drugs to hopefully reduce the chances of another m/c. I think you are having AF, but I think it can be light after a d & c. Maybe it will get a bit heavier in the next couple of days. So sorry that you have been feeling pessimistic - it is hard to shake those feelings some days. Just try to remember that you will hold your precious baby one day and will appreciate the miracle so very much after going through this. :hug:

Hi to everyone else.

Well, I phoned my clinic and spoke to the nurse there and she said I have to do a tracking cycle to see what is happening, as there are different things they can do depending on where may in my cycle they may find a hormonal deficiency. So, my first BT is tomorrow. This is just soooo frustrating. They have found nothing at all wrong with me and have done about a million tests, the only unusual thing is my long, irreg cycles, late O and possible short LP, yet they still won't do anything about it! This has been going on for so long now - I know a lot of people have to wait an awful lot longer for their precious baby, but I am so over it. I went off the pill in Dec 05, took months to get a regular cycle back, starting casually TTC in June last year, then properly trying since Aug last year, it is now almost April and I am no closer to that baby we want so much. I just feel like no one is doing anything and it will never ever work out. I have been crying all night and my eyes are so puffy. DH even said last night that he thinks we should stop trying for a while, and that just made it even worse like everyone is against me. I can't not try - not now.

Thanks to all who replied about their own experiences with the AF after miscarriage, that gives me a bit of an idea of when and what to expect.

Bun - I know how frustrating it is to be TTC and having all the tests but not getting any answers. I went through this over ten years ago and in the end my ex and I were advised we had "unexplained infertility". I had one very short lived pregnancy with him in 8.5 years (after 3 years of TTC). It was incredibly frustrating.

I now have a new partner & it only took 9 months to conceive with him and I was not focussing on TTC at all. And, in case you didn't notice on my signature I'm 40! It was more like I'll go off the pill & see what happens (I know sounds stupid being on the pill with my history but I didn't want to risk getting pregnant with previous boyfriends). I was really shocked to find myself pregnant. Sadly it ended as quickly as it began but it showed that it was not necessary for me to monitor ovulation to get pregnant.

My reason for mentioning this is that your man has mentioned that maybe you shouldn't try for a while. Perhaps you could just not focus so much on it, particularly around him. After TTC for a long time and all the monitoring etc, my ex started to feel like a sperm donor and went right off sex which didn't help TTC nor our relationship. This happened several times over our marriage (it didn't cause the breakup). I think we sometimes forget the effect that the whole thing can have on our men and we need to listen to how they feel about it. Try to get back to just having sex when you feel like it for a while, do your charting if you need that for the doc, but just try to relax a bit about it.... I know that's damn hard.

I'd recommend you do try Vitex. I had only just started taking it (when I remembered to so not every day) for about 6 weeks to two months before I got my BFP. I was taking it for PMS but perhaps it helped me in other ways. I had no idea it could aid in fertility. I will take it daily from now on.

Another thing that I don't see others in these forums discussing is trans fat. New research is showing that just one serving of food with transfat in it per day is enough to stop some women from conceiving. It's also not good for the development of a baby either so should be avoided during pregnancy. I have done my best to eliminate it out of my diet for the past two months and that could also have contributed to my BFP.

Yay, hump day is over!!! Only 2 days till the weekend!:dance:

Loubell – Your horses sound so cute! Don’t get rid of them!

Salt – Yay for holidays! Hope you are going to do something fun and relaxing.

Bun - I hope that the clinic gets into gear and helps you ASAP. Nothing worse than waiting around when you know there are things that can be done to help you. I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Sharon – a ceremony sounds like a beautiful idea. Sometimes we need a little formality to help us say goodbye and allow us to move on.

Hi to everyone else. It’s been quite busy in here… I’m having trouble keeping up!

Well, I’m now on 8DPO and going slowly batty! I’ve started getting some cramping and hoping that it’s a good sign, but I know myself well enough to know that my imagination can make my body do amazing things!:wall:
Oh well, I guess I’ll just have to be patient!

Love

Leyla
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Bun I did put the book away, but got it out again, dh has now put it somewhere safe so I can't look at it again till we are pg again. Special big :hugs: to you to, it sucks that the FS are making you do a tracking cycle, i'm sure your DH only made the suggestion about not trying for a while because he feels so helpless when you are so upset about not being pg, good luck with your tracking cycle, hope they find something they can fix easily.
saltprincess I have this feeling that I am going to O early this cycle, like you I normally O between cd 19-21. Are you going anywhere nice for a holiday? How long you off for?
satya I used vitex everyday the cycle I got pg, do you use the liquid or tablets? won't take it again for a few months, just want to see if it was a fluke.
Leyla we can be cycle buddies, I am on CD 9 so only 1 day ahead of you. I really think I need to a ceremony, just for me, I may ask my friend to come along and sit in the distance so I can have a cry when it is all finished.

As for me, I have this feeling that I am going to O very soon, I don't normally O till around CD 21 but at the moment I have bucket loads of EWCM, well maybe not bucket loads but a heck of a lot for me, as I do get some, but not very much, the only catch is, I now have thrush (again) after the damn antibiotics that I took last week, finally finished them on Sunday and they where pretty strong ones too, so there will be no BDing until that is cleared up, I have some cream I am using now, but will be going to chemist in morning to get once only tablet. I will now :pray: that EWCM hangs around until the weekend, and hopefully I won't O until day 14.

Sharon - I love the sound of your ceromony. OUCCCHHHH regarding the itch/burn lady. I ususally get one good bout of her once a year or after anitbiotics (sorry TMI). Hope you feel better soon.

Leyla - I am missing some thing...What is hump day?

Well I am still waiting for AF, all the cramps and sore boob thing is happening. Had a temp rise today, so if I go by my previous cycles I should get a temp dip in the next couple of days and then AF should be here.

LOL Bekz hump day is Wednesday middle of the week get over hump day and you are neally at the weekend...

Well ARGH im going to be really selfish today........ BOO HOO for me Temp dropped again only .1 but i have NO coverline...... Im soooo over this i cant believe it is sooooo hard for me its not fair why is it always easier for everyone else except me what have i done wrong for my dream not to come true.......................... I really need this holiday but im worried it will be ruined cos im so upset about my body and not having Oed...................All i want to do is YELL and SCREAM...................... sorry guys...

Janeo - I totally understand your frustration, sometimes it is all just too much! Do you see an OB or anyone who you could talk to? It is most likely just funny cycles after the m/c, but it is just soooo frustrating.

Bekz - you never know, sometimes pg symptoms and AF symptoms are the same.

Sharon - glad to hear the pg book is away again until next time when you can read it and smile rather than cry! I know that DH just hates that there is nothing he can do and he hates seeing me go through all this, but not trying is just not going to solve the problem, just put everything on hold. At least if I am doing something about it, I feel like I am moving somewhere, even if it is hard. Boo hoo on the thrush, hope it clears up in time for O!

Leyla - the cramping sounds like a good sign!

Sp - are you going anywhere on your holidays? I am going to Rotto tomorrow for a couple of days and can't wait. Not going with DH as he is working, but still, it will be so nice to have a break. You're right, another cycle does feel like an eternity and I am so sick of it. I am going to phone my FS this afternoon and try to speak to him directly about this and see if he has any suggestions. I know what you mean about maybe having a successful cycle as I will know exactly when I O going through this, apparently they tell you when to BD. But now I am just too afraid to try, every single time we try we fall pg and then lose it. I am convinced that I need something to keep me from m/cing even though so far they have found nothing wrong. I feel like there is no point in trying on our own as I will just be disappointed again. I just don't know what to do.

Satya - thanks for the advice. I can def see how easy it would be for DH to start feeling like a sperm donor. We still DTD at other times as well, and so far have only tried 3 cycles, once last Aug, once in Dec and then this last cycle. Every other month we have taken a break before trying again. I don't temp as I can tell when I O pretty much now anyway. So it doesn't really rule our sex life, but more our lives in general - I am not the happy person I used to be after going through so much in the last few months, and DH is not v happy either. We see our friends with kids, get invited to kids b'day parties, see our nephew and the whole family fawning over him, and it is just a constant reminder of what has happened to us and what we have lost. Stopping trying will not ease that, only make it worse, as I won't feel like we are getting anywhere or moving on from this. I think DH only suggested stopping trying because he hates seeing me sad, but stopping trying will not make me happy - the opposite in fact! Oh, life really can suck sometimes. I hope that you manage to get another BFP quickly. Where do you get vitex from?

Hugs Janeo.

Bun - You get Vitex from a health food shop. You can get it in tab or liquid form. If you don't like funny tastes then I would get the tabs. I like the Natures Own brand, you take 2 in the morning and that is it for the day. The blackmores brand you have to take one with each meal, which is a pain.

I really don't think I would be pg this cycle, we DTD 4 days before O and that is too long.

BTW - My dear friend up north told me that she is 10wks pg. They had been ttc for 18 months. At Christmas they decided to concerntrate on their house instead of TTC, and then try IVF in May. Luckily they fell in January!!!!! Janoe - My friend will be 8 months pg for her best friends wedding, in which she is the matron of honor!!!!

Hi girls,

I just spoke with my specialist and am not feeling any better. He said now it is probably worthwhile doing all the tests (before he said no point, as it is probably just bad luck). Anyway, since I have had most done anyway, there are not too many more to do, but most are tests I really didn't want to go through. Since I have already started the cycle tracking, that is all we will do this month. He said we can keep trying this month if we want, but I see little point, as they just don't seem to make it. He thinks we still have a 75% chance of having a healthy baby, but I just can't see it happening. He suspects it is likely to be a hormonal thing which will become apparent after this cycle and can hopefully be treated. If that's not it, or doesn't stop it from happening, then I will have to have an endometrial biopsy and hysto-something (sounded awful), and that is all they can do.

I am now officially living my worst nightmare. I can't stop crying (at work) and can see no future anymore.

To make things worse, I think a good friend of mine is pg with her third. She has had trouble conceiving and has been trying for a while, and has been the best support through all this, but now I don't know what to do. We see them all the time - she is the only person IRL I talk to about this stuff and I don't know what to do now - how do I see her all the time when she is pg? She hasn't even told me yet, but I know. She probably doesn't know how to tell me. I don't feel like I have any support now, as she won't know what to say around me and every time I see her it will just remind me of what I have lost.

Why am I going through this? How is it ever going to work out for us? It just gets worse and worse.

SP - I hear you on thinking that your body kills babies, I am convinced mine does. You know that is not true - one m/c is very common and will probably not happen again. I am also absolutely terrified to be pg again, but it is all that I want. I just don't know how to move on from this - there isn't even any point in continuing to try anymore. I hope you have a good holiday.

Sorry for being such a downer and a selfish post, I am just not feeling v good at all atm. I am going away tomorrow so won't be online again til next week. I hope everyone has a good weekend.

PS - I don't even know if I belong here anymore.

HUGE HUGS BUN!!!! There is a future matey one of my mums from work has hormonal problems and needs to take tablets to help settle the hormones or to have enough cant remember and is well over half way in her second pg having previously lost 3-4 babies including twins.......

Thanks girls i think when we get back from our holiday and im not pg or havnt Oed or no period ill be definately going think i will go even if af arrives to find out WHY i didnt O......

:hello: Im off on my holidays in the morning :dance: for a week and half going to miss you guys and the support but hopefully when i get back ill be really relaxed and alot happier..... BUt i wont be ttc next cycle because of my bf's wedding is at end of Jan and dont want to be due around her wedding so going to have a break for a cycle maybe 2......... But ill still be around from time to time......

Oh Bun! Massive hugs to you!:hug: I'm so sorry that things are so hard atm. I really hope that things start to turn around for you soon.

Janeo - hope you have a relaxing holiday! Wow seems like its holiday time for heaps of people in this forum! I really really hope that you O and get a BFP soon. Try not to let the stress of it ruin your relaxation time (easier said than done;)).

Bekz - LOL, yes as Janeo said Hump day is the middle of the week. I have to say that being in the TTW every day is absolutely crawling atm. And to make things worse its really quiet at work too, which means that I go doubly insane! Any I can't even spend all my time posting here as my B**ch manager is a control freak and watches my screen every second. Besides nobody knows I am TTC so I can't really start cruising the TTC and baby sites now can I?

Salt - I'm so hoping that the cramps are a good sign too. I had a really strange pulling sensation in my womb area today that lasted for about an hour. I sooooo want it to be signs that I am pregnant, but I honestly thing my imagination is running wild!:cryinglaugh: According to FF I should be waiting until 18DPO to test (which is next Sat or Sun off the top of my head), but I am so ready to cave and test, and I know it's far too early! I can be strong, I can be strong, I can be strong, I will not test, I will not test!!!!

Anyhow, going slightly insane incase you did not notice! It's so cruel, every month I get all optomstic and then it all ends in disapointment.

Hope that everyone else is going well. Only 1 more day till the weekend!!!:dance:

love

Leyla
xxx

Wow sounds like everyone is going on holidays. I hope everyone gets heaps of r and r and this results in BFP's for all.

Bun - HUGS to you. You do belong in here. There is a very inspirational thread in the long term TTC section about success stories, maybe refer to them when all seems hopeless.

Leyla - Fingers crossed for your bfp. Are you charting?

SP - Viex is herb other wise know as angus cactus. It works on the pituary glad to help regulate your hormones. It acts as a smoother. In other words if your are oestroden dominant (like me) and lacking progesterone it helps to work on those organs that need assistance.

Not much happening with me. DH is away all weekend so it is just me and DD.

Bekz - yes I'm charting. My temps are staying up so far, but then I hear they can do that right up till AF starts. I am trying to curb my enthusiam.......

Isn't it your birthday tomorrow Janeo? I think you have the same birthday as me. If it is have a fabulous day and even better holiday. It does seem like everyone is going somewhere at the moment. I wish.

I am 10dpo and have had no symptoms but I didn't get any when I was pregnant either. I am having drinks after work with friends tomorrow so am in a dilemma about drinking alcohol not knowing if I am UTD or not and I know people want to buy me a drink to celebrate - oh dear. Is 11dpo too early to test? What do you think?

Hm i dont know matey everyone is different some get it early others dont... Maybe do one if its -ve have a couple and if +ve say your driving.... And yes it is my birthday tomorrow im 26 ARGH...... I always wanted to be married and have had a baby by the time im 26 and i dont have either boo hoo..............

I thought the same and I got married September 2005 and turn 33 tomorrow. We will get there petal.

I hear you on the crazy TWW Leyla. Good luck. Big hugs Bun. Hi to everyone else.

BekZ I have now had my medicine to get rid of the itchy witchy, tossing up whether to get DH to BD tomorrow night, just don't want him to catch the witch coz then he won't be able to perform for quite a few days and then we could miss O, what a dilemma LOL and I hope AF stays away for you and your temps stay up,even though you DTD 4 days before O doesn't mean it is completely impossible ;) when can you test?
janeo :hugs: so sorry that you didn't get your coverline, it sucks big time, enjoy your holiday, get into having some hot steamy sex:p instead of BD'ing Happy Birthday for tomorrow.
Bun I think that is where men and women are different, we like to keep trying or take other steps towards getting what we want where men seem quite content to 'take a break' from it all. :hugs: and I know it's not the same as having someone IRL to talk to but you do have all of us here, and of course you belong in here with us.
saltprincess sounds great to be getting away, I haven't been away on holiday since January last year, we just can't afford it, glad you will have your computer with you though.
Leyla how many dpo are you? I have NEVER been able to make it to even 14 dpo before testing, I usually start around 9 dpo
Tinsel I know that everyone is different as to when they get their BFP, I tested on xmas day and got a bfn (8 dpo) but tested again 2 days later and got my BFP and I think that as long as you don't go overboard with the drinking I am sure everything would be ok. Happy Birthday for tomorrow, hope you have a great, a BFP would be a great present.

Could another description for EWCM be that it has similar or same consistency as 'snot'? sorry if that was way TMI but that is more how I would describe what I have atm.

Sharon - I'm now 10DPO and thinking i might try testing tomorrow. I don't really have any symptoms besides cramping though. Does it make a difference if you usually have a long luteal phase and test earlier? I would have thought that implantation happens regardless of your luteal phase?

Tinsel - You are 1 day ahead of me! When are you planning on testing? Good luck anyhow, and hope you can get some definate news so you can have your drinks!

Anyhow lovelies, have a lovely Friday. Hope it goes super fast!

love

Leyla
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Happy Birthday Tinsel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Bun :hug: :hug: :hug: of course you belong here please dont give up on your dreams they will come true but it just sucks that it has to be soo hard sometimes.
Jane how frustrating for you but dont give up either. Maybe it is a good idea to go see your dr about it and try to get some answers. I dont remember ever having any problems like yours after my m/c's all my AF's came about 4-6 weeks after. Hope you have a great birthday and a lovely holiday
I'm jealous of all you guys having a holiday we havent had a holiday away together since our honeymoon in 2000!
Well my tooth is out now yay and its starting to get less sore already but having the day off from work today anyway. I hate the tww so much only dpo7 now and itching to test even though I know its way to early
Hi to everyone else and hope the weekend coming up is a great one for all

Leyla I know FF likes you to wait till the day you are due for AF before testing so if you have a longer LF they suggest you wait longer, I could never seem to get past 8 dpo and would start testing, I am so impatient, and my eldest DS is extremely impatient when he wants something too so think he gets it from me
sarah066 I hate the TWW too and if it was me I would be planning to test from tomorrow LOL

My temps are still down (had a .02 drop this morning) all my thrush symptoms have disappeared so I am planning on getting some BD'ing in tonight, and then probably again on Sunday night (just can't convince dh to bd every night LOL), if I don't get a temp rise Monday am (or before) then will try and get more action every 2nd night

Just popping in quickly to wish Jane and Tinsel a very happy birthday, and Jane, i hope you have a fabbo holiday....lucky thing..

just went and had a quick look at the Jonas website and according to that, my lunar fertile day will be Sunday :D

Happy Birthday to the two birthday girls & happy holiday to everyone on holidays. I am sorry I have not been in had a very busy week. AF arrived today so I guess I will be back into the bding flatout over the next few weeks. Sometimes you just get so over it or is it just me who feels like that.
Sorry I have not really been up to date, have a great weekend to you all & I will do my best to keep up next week.

Herbie

Happy Birthday to Tinsel and Janeo!!!!!

Hope everyone is well.

Happy birthday Janeo and Tinsel!!! Hope you had a good one and got pampered!

love to everyone else, so glad it is the weekend!!!

love
Leyla
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Hi everyone, huge hugs to everyone in this thread- sending you a 'WISH YOU WEREN'T HERE' greeting for Easter!!

Thanks to Sharon for getting me to cross to this thread - I'm a bit new to both the southern hemisphere (ex-UK in NZ - DH wimped out on the Oz heat - grrrrr!!) and the board so please be prepared for me asking silly questions (BekZ thanks for clearing up the Vitex issue!!)

I am waiting for my D&C on Monday, had a Nuchal Fold Scan last Tuesday (being an older mother (42) I had hoped this would give me loads of reassurance that bubs was 'OK') but they couldn't find a heartbeat - this is my second missed m/c except last time I had my 12w scan and all was well, then I miscarried at 16w but they said bubs had died weeks before (won't give TMI - most of us have been there).

Can TOTALLY identify with all of you - am desperate to TTC NOW - last time my cycle went back to normal after 6 weeks so hoping the same again this time (cross everything but not whilst BDing or driving eh!!).

I am going to share my HUGE fear and would be SO grateful for any ideas, experience, etc from you all - I have got four boys (my husband is one of 5 boys!!) BUT have lost a bub between the two eldest, one very early on (didn't have a BFP but timing, loss, etc would suggest m/c) before my son in 2005, then have had missed m/c for both my last two pregnancies (hope you are keeping up, I can waffle a bit!!) - the big fear I have is that I can't carry girls - the last two pregnancies we have been trying to stick to the 'timing' method for a pink one! Now I am scared I am killing my babies by trying for a girl - does anyone know if it is possible to not be able to carry a particular sex?? This may just be me overreacting and blaming myself because I have no other answers but it is how I feel.

So sorry for the rant!!

How is everyone else doing, any great news for us to share???? I hope you have all left this thread before I have had time I have learnt all your names and circumstances - am SO glad I found this site as not sure what I would have done this last week - a big thank you to everyone (but still wish you weren't here!!)

Love to all
Alex
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HI Ladies,

I know i don't belong in here, but i have a quick message from Janeo. Her DP proposed last night. She called me at about 10.30 and she was very excited. She asked for me to come in here and let you all know.

Congratulations Jane!

OMG! Thanks for sharing the wonderful news with us Bron81. What a lovely birthday surprise for Janeo. Congrats Janeo!!!!

Hi and welcome HeyBacko. I have heard of people not being able to carry a certain sex but unfortunately I don't have any information on this one so maybe a knowledgable BB will post about it. You certainly have your hands full with four boys! I am the oldest of 7 children but we have 6 girls and 1 boy who is totally spoilt. I hope your recovery goes well after the D&C and your cycle goes back to normal for you soon.

Thanks for all the birthday wishes. If only my wish would come true. I tested yesterday morning at 11dpo and was BFN so took that as a green light to have some drinkies which was good until the waiter at the restaurant gave the birthday girl two shooters. Boy, that warmed the insides! My temp dropped this morning so I am not hopeful for a BFP this month as I thought temps were supposed to rise after drinking? Oh well, will keep you posted.

Leyla, are you going to wait for 18dpo or will you test soon? I am normally addicted/obsessed to testing but I have been pretty good this month.

I will have to check out the Jonas website as I have never looked into lunar cycles.

Have a good weekend everyone. We are going ice skating tomorrow for our nieces 9th birthday party which will be interesting.

CONGRATULATIONS Janeo!!! (Even though you probably won't read this for a while...) That is great news! At least one of your birthday wishes has come true, not long till the next one I'm sure!

Tinsel, sorry about the BFN. At least you could enjoy your B'day drinks. You never know though, it could be just too early to test yet. When did you get a BFN last time? I totally caved and tested this morning... you guessed...BFN. I am hoping that it is too early to test for me. My temps are still up, so I guess I will just have to wait and test closer to my AF due date. How depressing.

Alex - so sorry to hear about the missed miscarriage. Hope that the D&C goes well and that you can carry a girl next time. I have definately heard of some people not being able to carry a certain sex to full term. My aunty was unable to carry anything but girls however. She lost around 8 boys (1 set of twins) over about 12 years. Only 1 made it to full term, but died when he was only 2 hours old. I had heard that this is because girls are stronger, which would therefore not make sense in your case. I will leave that one up to the experts!

Anyhow, hope everyone else is having a lovely relaxing weekend.

love

Leyla
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Hi All,

A big welcome to Heybacko. So sorry to hear of both your losses and all the best for Monday. Wishing you a speedy recovery. My step mum lost 2 girls, one at 16wks and one at 20wks. They said there was a genetic issue and she could not carry girls. Before you have your D and C talk to your gyno about doing some tests. Wishing you all the best.

WOW - Congrates to Janeo. That is wonderful news.

Tinsel - Sorry about bfn, but you may want to test in another couple of days. Judging by your chart history your temp has not dropped too much and your LP is normally longer, so it may just be too early to tell hon. Good luck

Leyla - When are you up for testing? I wish I could see your chart.

Well I am DPO 11 and my temp is still high. FF said that I have had a triphasic cycle. I have never had one of these before. It is prob due to the D and C and my hormones are out of whack. If AF not here by Monday I may do a sneaky test, by then I will be DPO14 and my normal LP length is 12. Now that I have said some thing AF will come....

Hey Bekz, I did not realise that we are on the same DPO. I am 11 today as well. I tested this morning and got a BFN. I am hoping that it is too early for me. Will try again in a few days. AF is not due till thursday next week. How do I share my FF chart?

Congratulations to Janeo and well done to your Dp for finally asking you!

Welcome to Alex. Wish you didnt have to be here. 4 boys wow! My DP is one of 4 boys so from what I hear from the MIL it is a big handful.

I couldnt read this forum for a couple of days and I have missed out on a lot. Gee us girls chat a lot!

Today I have spent wiping down walls from all the dust the jackhammer created. I am on CD17 I think (FF will tell me how many days exactly)

Everyone else to have a good rest of the weekend.

Hi Girls,

Congrats Jane hunny, i'm so happy for you!!!

Girls, if you haven't seen, i set up a "happy birthday" thread for Jane in the 'Messages for Members' section, and Bron also posted about the engagement in there, so if you want to go and post her a message in there as well, i'm sure she'll appreciate when she gets home as her engagement and birthday go hand in hand....

Tinsel - you might want to check out 'Messages for Members' as well......hehehehe.

How exciting, congratulations Jane!!! What a wonderful birthday surprise!! :dance: And happy birthday, Tinsel, hope you are having a great day too! I'm just back from a two-day maths conference so still catching up on everyone's news but couldn't resist posting right now! Lots of love to everyone and I'll be back later! :D

Congratulations Jane and what a wonderful birthday surprise

Happy birthday for yesterday Tinsel maybe it is too soon for you to test as Bekz said you have a longer LP so dont give up just yet

I caved in this morning and tested (DPO9) yes I know way too early of course BFN but my temps have been really high this time maybe someone could have a look and give me their opinion

Welcome Heybacko sorry you have to join us here, hope all goes well for you tomorrow sending a big :hug: for you. I know my mum had trouble carrying boys but she did have two successful boy babies so dont give up. I'm also an older mum (41) and sometimes I worry that I wont even get pg ever again and I've left it too late but we keep trying anyway
Hugs for all

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18dca2

Hi everyone, hoping to join you here.

I have 1 adorable son, who is nearly 3 and we have been ttc #2 since November 2004, having done a few IVF/ICSI cycles. I m/c in March, after a positive artificial FET, my third m/c. I have an appointment with FS on 1st May, but everyone tells me some woman become highly fertile after a loss, so hoping to squeeze in a natural cycle and see what happens! I've brought a stack of OPK's, and looked at FF, but just can't make sense of it, I've always had my FS track my cycles and don't even know when AF is due!

Feeling a bit anxious about ttc again, but also very eager to start, it was my first pregnancy in 2 years, so hoping it might give me another one fairly quickly :)

Sarah, your chart looks really good! Not that I'm an expert or anything!! Hope you get a BFP in a couple of days... I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Any symptoms yet??