Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage or Loss ~ September 08 #3

Jenushka CONGRATULATIONS :cheer::bluecheer::stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy : So happy for you. Enjoy.

Hey smi! It's been a busy day! A busy couple days, actually! How goes it with you, girlie? I say, debate away... make sure you're making the right decision, whatever that may be! If it's something that takes this long to figure out, that may be a sign right there... :think: Hugs to you :hug: LOL did you get that e-mail about friends? :goodone:



Uuugggghh, mollycat, that's a pretty big temp drop... :( I'm sorry... :hug: Maybe if you :hide: that terrible, horrible, witch won't find you!



dellydoo--Hope you're doing ok today after what you went through yesterday... thinking of you! :hug:

Dellydoo- I know im only new to this site and dont know you personally but im so sorry for you! Your partner sounds wonderful, its great to know there are men out there who are so passionate and not afraid to show emotions, my partner blames himself for our loss and he even cries sometimes! so im pleased to hear you DP is grieving and not holding it in like mine did for so long. Il be thinking of you and your hope gives me hope.

Just an update im going to the GP next week to ask to get tested for PCOS and my hormone levels, I guess thats a start what else would you guys recommend as I want to exhaust all options before paying the dollars to see FS. we also find out next week how DP's swimmers are. Im also going to start vitamin b6 after next AF what do you guys think of that? does it do any good i read that it extends your luteal phase ( time after ovulation until menstruation) and that a luteal phase shorter than 10 days almost never ends in pregnancy! i was shocked as i swear i ovulate day 20 of a 28 day cycle.

Jen- haha he was watching me post on the laptop last night and said he "wanted to see what i was doing" he is so supportive and sits here and reads the posts along with me. I love him to death!


2 years TTC one blighted ovum, hoping for a 2009 baby!

First of all BIG CONGRATULATIONS TO JENUSHKA WOW!! Fantastic news, I must admit I stalk your chart and a few of the others just to see if I'm doing mine right, at the momet I just use paper charts but my temps are all over the place at the moment with my cylce trying to regulate itself after my m/c. I'm glad your relaxing and taking it easy and not stressing, I know I was completely stressed out and worried with my pregnancy and at the end of the day there is nothing we can do but just leave it up to mother nature and God! So be calm and relax....keep us up to date with it and enjoy growing that big belly!:confetti:

Dellydoo - big big :grouphug: to you and your DP, Im amazed at what a strong person you are, I know you'll have your forever baby soon and am praying that 2009 brings this for you and for all of us.

Angel - another strong woman, what a great sisterhood we have on this thread and even around us, our family and friends whom we rely on, I mean women just have this knack of being there for eachother, just fabulous isn't it, its one of God's gifts I think. YOu are an inspiration to all of us and your bub is out there just waiting to be part of your life, you just got to keep the faith....:bluedust:

Jen - you are so full of knowledge and I know who to come to now to get my questions answered thankyou....how you going with the ttcing??? we haven't DTD this week at all yet, Im still lightly bleeding and spotting at certain times during the day but I can see the CM when I wipe (sorry to be gross) so we are still going to try tonight and again on Saturday, you never know hey?? seeing OB for the first time at end of this month and have a list of questions for him already! :crossfingers: for both of us!!!

:bluedust::stickyvibesgirl: to all and big cheerios to all the girls I've missed, am so busy at work right now that I hardly get a chance to post.....so please forgive me for the lack of personals!!! I read all your posts and think of you all often.

thinking of you Toccara and Ruthie!!;)

ciao ciao

21--I'm a firm believer in B6!! I first heard of it on this thread, and thought I'd give it a try--it worked great for me! There's several others that take/have taken it and swear by it! :goodluck: next week at your GP appt. Hope you get all your questions anwered! :hug:



Mannie--Thanks! :redface: I'll always do my best to answer any question! It wasn't long ago that I was the one asking those questions, so I'm more than happy to help!

Things are going good on the TTC front... just in the TWW... I'm so grateful I've been so busy lately, I haven't had any time to think about it!

Have fun and good luck with the :bd:

21TTC - Hi, we've not met properly yet but I noticed you mentioned B6 in your post. I had a short lutel phase so I decided to start taking B6, I took 200mg per day and I got a BFP first month (so I don't really know how much it extended my cycle by but not complaining about that). My DH also had bad swimmers (lots of them just not many healthy ones) so we had that challenge too. Good luck - think positive & just believe cause it WILL happen.

Once a got my BFP I slowly eased off the B6 as the pregnancy vitamin already included a little in it. It can help with m/s too apparently so some people continue to take it for the first tri.

Wishing you all the best.

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Big Big Hugs and bucket loads of **babydust** to everyone, and also those wonderful little **sticky vibes**.

milla - I know how you feel...I've been here a few weeks now and still struggle trying to keep up with everyone.

Everyone please know I do think of you all even if I don't always do persies.

jen - :hug: back at ya!!

adele - Sounds like a beautiful day yesterday. DP sounds wonderful too. At least he is sharing it all with you and not holding it in like a certain bloke I know. You are my inspiration right now (and angel too *waving*)...that you are able to be so strong. Although if you don't want to be there is no reason in the world that you have to be. I think it was actually you who told me that when I first joined. :hug:

jenushka - :cheer: Good on you for being so zen. There's not really anything else to be...stressing won't really achieve anything. Hope all goes well with our appointments. :stickyvibesboy:

21 - Hi! *wavin*. You're DP sounds great...very supportive. Mine was not thrilled about BB in the beginning. He thought it was upsetting me even more. He's accepting it now, but still grumbles a bit when I tell him what everyone is up to. He'll come around though.

AFM - Feeling a bit low today. I didn't sleep very well last night. Must be still adjusting to daylight savings which started last weekend. Why they had to start it a whole month early, I'll never understand. Then today, a former colleague popped in to say hi. He asked me when I was going to have babies. I'm never sure how to answer that question. I did tell him what has happened, though.

Have a great day ladies!

I was just wondering if everyone was aware that October 15th is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Remembrance Day
There is a Wave of Light that happens each year. Everyone is invited to light a candle on October 15th at 7pm in ALL Time Zones, ALL over the world. If everyone Lights a candle and keeps it burning for at least one hour, there will be a continuous WAVE OF LIGHT OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD ON Octovber 15th
There is a web site you can go to which obviously i cant give you any links but if you google the date you will find it.

For me I will be wearing my pin and I will burn my Candle all day

The official colours are blue and pink so maybe on that day we could also type in those colours......
I believe the key to what we have been through inorder to make it just a little easier for the next person is AWARENESS...... The more we talk a about it the more we are there for others so that they dont feel so alone the more strength we can give to people to help them deal with it. To me that is the first step....... Once that happens the second step is why...... I dont believe why can really be answered because there is not just one answer..... but when we starte with AWARENESS we start the ball rolling and we help to make it easier for others.

Angel - well said. So true, the more people that talk about m/c the better. With more support we are all able to cope better. It's such a private pain, that often leaves one feeling helpless and a failure. With awareness and understanding this may take some of those "feelings" away and give everyone the support they need.


Wouldn't it be great if our doctors or hospitals could give our support sites (such as this) or people that we could talk to. Even if it is only a name for us to contact when we are ready.

I know that without the wonderful ladies on this site, I would not have coped. My own mother lost two babies (one between her first two children and the other between my sister and myself), even she does not talk about those pregnancies or lost children very often. I know that she didn't understand the way I was feeling when I m/c. I can only imagine when she was having babies the thoughts would have been "it's okay, you'll have another one". Sometimes it's just not that easy.

Jen - had trouble looking for somewhere to :hide: looks like the witch has found me. :crying: I'm so over it.

Dellydoo - :hug: for you and DP. Sounds like a beautiful way to say goodbye.

Mollycat....... I just had this vision when you mentioned that AF found you and you saying its not fair..........I had this vision of "mature" ladies... myself well and truley included ;)....... having AF turn up.... and it turning us into 2 year olds..... stamping our feet and screaming... throwing a "terrible twos" Tantrum (no smiley to picture this so you will have to use your imagination...... these big grown ups stamping their feet.... screaming.... like an oversized 2 year old.)....... Ohhhhh sorry...... maybe its just me ...... but it cracked me up.:ROFL: and still is :ROFL:

Angel Babies :ROFL: yep. I'm here stamping my feet. You made me smile. Thanks.
Actually, just asked DH if he was OK (he had a not so great day at work). He said yes, I told him I'm not.

HI guys!
just a question im on CD22 of a 28 day like clockwork cycle and im experiencing shooting pains up my cervix and alot of thick white lotion like discharge, could this possibly be symptoms, i dont expect pregnany ever again at this point but was just wondering if anyone experienced this at all.

ME 21 DP 21
TTC#1 for 2 years
one blighted ovum
CD 22 of 28 day cycle
currently undergoing fertility testing

I agree with angel and molly about the need for awareness. When I m/c all I could think about was that I didn't know anyone this had happened to. Until BB I had no one I could talk to who could understand.

:rofl: angel....that was me on monday

hi lydia...i've had shooting pains up my cervix on and off since my m/c, but not with any discharge. I don't really know what it is but its occurring less and less frequently. Now it occurs around O time and during my period. Whenever I've mentioned it to my GP, she just made sure it wasn't infection, but didn't seemed to concerned about it otherwise. Sorry, I haven't really helped much. :dunno:


Actually, I'm wondering if anyone else experienced worse period pain following m/c. I always got cramps the first couple of days. Now I have much worse cramps the first day or two and they come and go right through. Hmm...maybe my body is still adjusting

Hi lovely ladies,

Jenushka - yayayayayayayayayaya :dance::clap::loveshower::bluecheer::cheer: I am soooooo happy for you.

Are the usual Friday night Chat club planning on meeting tomorrow night??? will pop in and say hi

Short update - AF is due Monday and I expect her to arrive, really dont think there is much chance - just a gut feeling. Will just have to keep going

Love to you all :kissing::hug:

Hello everyone

21 - one of my first pregnancy symptoms (especially with my first pregnancy) was thick white lotiony discharge, around the date AF was due. I had cramping on and off, don't remember if there were any shooting pains though.

Hannah- after my first m/c (natural m/c), AF was quite very light (only 2 days). Then I got pregnant again and m/c again (this time with a D&C). My first period after the D&C was very heavy, especially on the first day, but I didn't have any cramping. I am now going through the 2nd AF after the D&C and so far everything looks "normal", but I've realized that I have quite a few cramps (which I never had before). Weird...

AngelBabies . thank you for posting the info about the awareness day. I agree with everyone else, once you realize that you're not alone, things get a bit less difficult to bear. I had the urge to talk to everyone about my m/c's and I heard so many heartbreaking stories about m/c's and stillbirths. One of my friends (she is already in her 60s now) said she has had 2 m/c's and a stillbirth and it almost ate her up. In those days there was no Internet and no online communities and people just didn't talk about it.

Oh, and AngelBabies, you are SO right about AF showing up...mine did 3 days ago and I hated her for it (I always hate her;). I'm looking forward to the weekend when she will have said her goodbyes and I hope to not see her again for 9 months!!!!

hannah--Sorry to hear you're feeling so down :( I hope you sleep better tonight. So you're the one stealing all our daylight! :nahnah: DST is about to end over here... gets dark by 7 now. I've had fluctuating periods ever since m/c... some are really light, while others are extremely heavy and clotty ( sorry :tmi: ). When it's heavy, I've noticed that my cramps are much worse. I'm sure your body it just trying to get itself back to normal.... hope it happens quickly for you!



Angel--Thanks for the Remembrance Day info. Ordered myself a remembrance pin this am, and also one for a girl that helped me out with the bookfair, and also with the 6th grade fundraising... I believe she had 3 or 4 m/c's. Just thought she might like it.... Think I'm going to buy a big candle when I go downtown, as well, so that I can keep it lit throughout the day on the 15th. Thanks, again, Angel! :hug:



mollycat--Awww, hon, I'm so sorry that d@mn witch found you! How the hell did she get through my force field? :dunno: You go ahead and throw a tantrum all you like--you can't always be strong, and I know it's frustrating how long you've been dealing with this! :comfort: Hope you feel better! :hug:



21--I had lot's of creamy CM with all my pg'cy!! :crossfingers:

Easha--I know I'll be there on Friday! *raising hand* Hey, your temps still look good, so chin up! Don't give up just yet! :noaf:



Milla--Hope AF is taking it easy on you! Good luck this next cycle, hope it brings you your BFP!! :pink-babydust: :bluedust:



smi--Good Thursday morning to you! Tomorrow's Friday!! :confetti: Can't wait!



Krystie--Always thinking of you, and hoping you feel better soon! :hug: I'm SO sorry you've been so :sick: I have to be honest and say I don't envy you! I would love to be pg, but just can't get myself to look forward to m/s no matter what! Little Chyan's already making her presence known in a big way--which is a good thing, but can't help but feel sorry for you for feeling so ill! Love ya and miss ya Pill Girl! Hope you can make it to Friday chat! *kiss*



Hey Toccara! Thinking of you! :hug:

Mollycat and hannah - big hugs girls, you sound like you both could do with some so plenty coming over your way :hug::hug::hug::hug:

Just to say that I am quite open about my m/c's IRL. Purposefully done so that it gives an opening to anyone who might be "in the closet" on the subject. It is far more common than I ever realised before I m/c.

I'm planning to chat tonight, although the fact that i am already up at this time and I can't sleep might make things a touch difficult. I would like to at least try to come on for a bit. Jen - how has our day-light savings affected you? We have gone forward an hour so does that mean I need to stay up til 11.30pm (new time) instead of 10.30pm? Someone pls enlighten this mush of a brain.....lol.....!

Jen & PLC - thanks :hug: I just wish AF would show up a little quieter (if she really has to visit at all). I think having the headaches just makes it so much worse. I'll try and join you in chat (if I can work out java - for some reason it doesn't like my computer) although I also have the problem of staying awake long enough :rofl:

I know I still find it hard to talk about my m/c to most people as i'm still very emotional. Maybe when I finally am pg again, then it will be easier.

Milla - let's hope that when AF leaves you she doesn't come back for a very long time.

Just popping in to say hi everyone :) i'm off to the clinic soon for my scan and feeling really nervous. Hopefully all will be well and we'll be right to have this IUI on Sunday. Back later with personals...

plc - honey I remember that chicken soup recipe so well! It is so lovely to see you again - thanks so much for your support.
Mollycat - I am so sorry darling - AF arrives on her freakin' broom and proceeds to belt us with the handle.
Hannah honey - I hope your pain eases - my first period was actually OK but I think that was more to do with being on a mountain in the lotus position (well cross legged anyway; until my ankles got sore).
Milla - I am with you on the 9 month AF holiday. Enough ALREADY.
Easha - "just keep going" is our silent mantra - well that and "Die evil AF witch die". I hope you are wrong about her this month sweetheart.
Angel Babies - Thanks for the remembrance day update - you always share these wonderful things with us - thank you. I was howling with laughter at your toilet tanty!
21 - Thank you so much - he truly is an angel
Jen805 - Honey - I hope this is your month

AFM - we got the autopsy results on Wednesday morning and I think you guys will understand how hard it was to hear that Charles was perfect. He was fully formed and everything was normal. It was a spike in infection in me that caused the m/c. I feel so sad but also hopeful because it means that we can make beautiful, normal babies. I just need to hold on to them.
Went to see FS yesterday and she is not really happy with my endometrium this cycle (7mm) so she is taking over my cycle (back on syneral) after I surge and looking at FET transfer next month. :pray:
Love to you all
Adele

Megsmum - wishing you all the best for your scan this morning

Dellydoo - maybe we should take hold of the broom and belt her back :dance: Sorry to hear about Charles' result. It gives you an answer and hope, but doesn't make it any better at the moment. All the best with your cycle next month.

plc--I, too, am pretty open about my m/c's. I mean, I don't bring it up to miscellaneous people or anything, but if someone asks, or just depending on the topic of conversation, it has come up. I often talk about "the awesome site" I joined.... most people just listen and the conversation keeps going. Some people who really listen actually ask what kind of site it is. But I'm always bragging about my girls! :grouphug: The time here hasn't actually changed yet, so things should still be the same... I think ours changes in early Nov, but it is getting darker earlier. I was also curious what would happen to our chats, and whether they would be affected when time changed. Hope to see you up and awake in chat--don't forget to take a nap today!



mollycat--Ooooh, yeah, try to stay up for chat!! :leap: That would be awesome! I had a little problem with Java at first, but there's troubleshooting you can do to try to fix it. It wasn't working for me at first, and then all of a sudden, it just was, so I was stoked! Maybe your DS1 can help you! Sorry to hear about your headaches... :hug: I hope you feel better soon.... Damn witch....she must have pulled a 007 or some Mission Impossible move to get thru my force field! Wish I could give you this in real life :hug:



Megsmum--Good luck with your scan! I've got everything crossed for you! Saying lots of :pray: for you and for Fred!! I pray you get to move forward with the IUI on Sunday! Keep us posted! Hugs!



dellydoo--I'm so sorry Adele :( I know how terribly hard it was for you to hear that Charles was perfect.... but no matter what, he would've been perfect to you! So just hold on to the fact that you can produce normal, healthy babies.... you're very lucky in that aspect! :hug: Hope the FS helps get your cycle to her liking, and good luck with the FET transfer next month. I :pray: it brings you your BFP!!

jen - I did sleep much better last night thanks. Although I did wake up with DH's knees in my back, usually its the other way around. :p . How goes the 2WW? At least your keeping busy.

easha - Here's hoping :SAAF: this month

plc - Thanks for the :hug:

molly and milla - Next month is our month!!! I'm all for taking hold of the broom and belting the witch back. A :bfp: ought to do nicely.

megsmum - Good luck with your scan.

dellydoo - Not sure what I can say. I hope you find comfort in the fact that Charles was perfect, but I'm sure he was perfect to you anyway. I hope the FS can help and goodluck with FET next month.

Yesterday a former colleague came by to catch up. He asked when I was going to have babies. Its a fair enough question, but I haven't figured out an answer yet. I've decided to just tell the truth. (Besides he's a physician so I didn't expect any WTF comments). People need to know and I have resolved to refuse to spare them the embarrassment of hearing it. If the question makes me uncomfortable, why should I not answer it plainly and simply, just so that those who ask don't feel uncomfortable?

hi guys!

thanks hannahd for the info, also I had my d and c in may and since then every period i have had has gotten worse! i never had cramps before the procedure now i get sore breast sometimes 2 weeks before ( i hate it coz i always think its a pregnancy symptom) and cramps before, during and a much much heavier longer period. I think my body changed after thats all i can think of!

also milla thanks for the info, it gave me ...slight ....hope

now im on CD 23 and the sharp pains are more frequent, i sometimes get them while i HAVE af but never before and it started a week before its due so im stumped, since d and c every month im always 28 days but keep getting different things happening! i am not going to test unless i am late, im going to start vitamin b6 next cycle and it will be my 2nd cycle using the fertility monitor ( didnt get a peak this month) so hopefully that will help! good luck guys! also I found out my partner may be going to the middle east for an army term in Feb 2009 and we dont know whether to keep actively trying or just see what happens or stop all together! so confused!

Hi girls,

tried to post yesterday, but laptop was playing up!

Megsmum - good luck with the scan today, :pray: for you.

Dellydoo - I am lost for words, but please know my thoughts are with you.

:bluedust: :pink-babydust: :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy: to everyone else

AFM - Starting to get a little nervous with my nuchal scan on Monday, this is the final big test for me and just hoping everything works out. I have plans to fly to Cairns on Friday to see my beautiful niece for her 1st birthday, really want to be there for her big event so :pray: I'm ok.

larz - GL for Monday. Am sure Bub is doing fine. Can't wait to hear how it all goes cause I just know you're going to be beaming when we hear from you. ;)

Hi everyone,

The news is all good from me :dance: One 20mm follicle and a 10mm one, so we are right to go for the IUI on Sunday! Thank goodness, I thought we'd never get there. Fred has to the most slow growing follicle in history LOL But crikey you should see me now. When she had taken my blood, the nurse put a bandaid on my arm because it had just about stopped bleeding. So I got up picked my handbag and then gushed blood everywhere :o All over me and the floor! And yesterday I stubbed my little toe on a chair and it's really sore today too. So I now have a hobble and a bandaged arm as well :doh: Oh well, we have finally gotten there, so I am very happy and relieved.

larz - All the very best for your scan! Stay positive, all will be well!

21 - I hope the pains are a good sign :crossfingers: I've never had anything like that so can't really help, but anything is possible. Good luck!

HannahD - Good on you for telling him, I'm at the stage now where if it comes up I just tell people about my m/c too. I agree with the other ladies, if we just hide it then the subject will always be "taboo". It's amazing (but really sad) the number of ladies who tell you that they have also had one whe you tell them about yours. I hope your cramps ease up soon.

Jen - Thanks for that cycle buddy :) Will be joining you in the TWW on Sunday - finally!!

dellydoo - I'm so very sorry about your darling Charles hun :hug: I wish I could say something to help. All the very best for your FET, you will have a baby to hold soon I'm sure!

mollycat - Stupid AF!! I'm sorry she's knocking you around :hug: You'd think she'd know she's not wanted by now!! I get the horrible headaches the first couple of days of AF too, so I know how you feel.

plc - Hi there!

Easha - I hope AF stays away for you!

Hi to everyone else that I've missed! Hope you all have a nice weekend!!

Megsmum - so happy for you, glad everything went well. :crossfingers: everything for you during your TWW. Nothing worse than wondering if your are PG or not for 2 weeks, wish they'd discover an extremely early pregnancy test!!

AJC - Thanks for the well wishes, I really do believe everything is fine, but I sometimes wont let myself believe it because I'm worried about jinxing myself. Scan is at 8am so I'll be on here straight away to tell you all the news. Still haven't told my friends, I've been avoiding them as my bb's and tummy are so big it's hard to hide.

It's a me post

My next BT result has come in. E2 was 126 on Tues (after 4 injections). On my increased dose of Puregon, it was 490 this morning (after a further 3 injections). Considered a steady but slow increase.

My guess is I either have a small group of small follies or a couple of developing ones. I have another BT and my first ultrasound on Monday. Decision will likely be made that day as to whether to continue my initial forray into IVF.

Feeling a bit flat - I thought the result might have been higher :wall:

mollycat....funny that you mentioned that DH had a bad day..... If I m in tanti mood and I see that DH doesnt look so good... I listen to whats wrong with him.... if my tanti is more important then I tell him it is..... :D ..... then I tell him when i m finished with my Tanti then he can have his... normally tell him I was in tanti mode first so he will just have to wait his turn..... only one tanti at a time. If his is more important then I put mine on the backburner.... but when it gets brought back out its normally a double tanti :o scarey stuff

HannahD... I think we all do.....some of us try to be all "mature" and stuff and keep it to ourselves... others..... like myself i must confess.... chuck bigger tanti s:redface:

Jenushka...Huge Congrats..... :crossfingers: for a smooth 9 months

Easha... Friday nights are Friday nights.... its my social night of the week.... in years gone past it might have meant night clubs or drinkies..... now it means loggin onto the computer to chat to a group of weird women all around the world...... hmmm hold on a sec... i m one of those weird women.... :doh: I m in QLD so no time change here.

Milla.... I think its the same for pretty much everyone.... you feel so alone.... My DH, while he isnt to impressed when I dont answer him cause i m busy on here....... loves this site... he knows that without finding this site I wouldnt have managed to the degree that I did. Knowing that your not alone, knowing that you are understood is a vital part of the process. You are treated as if something is wrong with you because you are so destressed...... you feel so bad.... then you find this site and realise those people who were making you feel that there was something wrong with you..... are the ones that have NEVER lost their child or children. They have never been through it. So for those people.... a big tongue sticking out at you (sorry... am I being a 2 year old again...... my bad)

WTH,

I just sent you a PM ;) Please please please don't give up hope yet!! I will be :pray: over the weekend for lots (but not too many) of follies growing. At least you have had a rise in E2 and have got a bit more time left to do more injecting. Hang in there, and I've got everything crossed for you!! :hug:

Thanks MegsMum. BTW, no further increase to dose.
:hug:

Jen Jen I went a bit over board.... I brought badges for everyone at work to wear...... lol..... "and a part of your uniform on the 15th of October will include a pink and blue ribbon" ohhhhh and I got the diamonti one (yeah ok..correct my spelling teach) I really dont know what to do or how to do it.... but I know that I have to find a way of reaching more women out there. I know I ve got the web site but there has to be another way as well... I just havent found it yet.

BB..... Daylight savings doesnt kick in for us. But just so you dont have to be up toooooo late I ll log on at 9.30 my time so that its still 10.30 for you...... Hopefully I can keep you awake long enough for Jen Jen...... also I hope Krysties MS settles down between 10.30 and 12 tonight.

I have to say I m very open about mine. I have a braclett on that has 2 hearts on it with my sons names on it... it also has 2 sets of booties on it with the twins names on it. If someone asks..... The hearts are for my 2 teenage sons and the booties are for my little angels who didnt make it....... If someone asks me how many children I have...... I have 4....... 19,16 and 2 who didnt make it and went back up above and are waiting for me there..... I dont say it to make the other person uncomfortable... I say it firstly becasue it is my life and its my reality but secondly I say it to get it out there... to get people thinking about it... to get it into their heads that even though I never held my angels in my arms does not stop the fact that they are my babies.

Megsmum...... sooo glad everythign went well for you..... :crossfingers: for the IUI ..... the hard thing is the not knowing... the hoping... the expectations.... not to mention those bloody injections ;) Did i tell you that I had to do one at the football semi final...... it was half time at the Melbourne/Brisbane semi final (league)..... DH and I go down to the disable toilets.... where I sit on the damn toilet while he injects me...... ohhh it was soo dignified...one of my many memories that i will ummmmmm... ummmm "cherrish"...... Oh well... the injections hopefully are over for you... other than your trigger..... hopefully those little :pinksperm::bluesperm: work out what they are ment to be doing and :fertilise: :pray:

Where there's hope.... As with what I said above..... Its not an easy road to be on..... but if you have ANY questions hun... PLEASE ask...... If I dont know then answer then I ll know someone who does..... There are some amaizing people on this site who continue cycle after cycle with IVF..... I know some long termers who are now very very pregnant... I also know many who were successfull on their first cycle..... Dont forget though hun.... the medications... they will mess with your head... and make you feel pretty bad.... just lean on me if you need to..... :hug:

Ok... well thats me for persies ... havent done them in a while..... Its strange cause there is no AFM to add to the end... but thats fine.... or maybe I should add... AFM.... its one day at a time.....and each day I m feeling stronger

WTH - Oh pooh :( Take care of yourself over the weekend :hug:

Angel - I'm so glad you are feeling a bit better now, it is such a cr@ppy road to walk this one we find ourselves on :( And thanks so much for the crossed fingers :) It is hard not knowing, you know I have been stressing majorly now for the last couple of weeks not knowing if we would be cancelled or not, and now I go into the TWW with more not knowing...it never ends! I'm soooo glad to not have any more Synarel for a bit now than anything - it has been making me incredibly tired. But I'm having Pregnyl injections for LP support so the injections are not quite over yet :( LOL at you and DH at the footy, you must have got some strange looks hee hee hee hee hee slinking into a toilet together!! But honestly I'm trying to not put too much pressure on myself this TWW (she says now ;)), if it happens that will be fantastic, if not we'll go onto a new IVF cycle straight away (provided the FS agrees, may have some sweet talking to do there yet ;)) I just keep telling myself to keep up the hope :) And thanks so much for the October 15th info too, last Thursday was the first anniversary of my last m/c and I lit candles on Oct 15th last year, will be doing it again this year for sure. Can I also ask you where you can get the pins from?

I've worked in out - while reading Angel's post it suddenly came to me. The reason none of us is getting pg (except for a couple every month) is :bluesperm::pinksperm: - have a good look at them. They're swimming in opposite directions. They don't know where to go. :ROFL: Yeah, yeah, I know. I've gone crazy. It's the two year old in me.

Hey... you should have asked... I already knew they were swimming in oppoiste directions.... infact... mine stopped swimming and started sinking... but BB hasnt updated there smiles enough to include sinking swimmers :ROFL:

ohhh and Megsmum..... I ll send you the link.. i m not allowed to put a link in the thread....... if you dont get my PM then try googling the memorial date ...... october 15th

:lol: mollycat!! My DH reckons the reason we are having so much trouble getting pg again is that he only has dumb sperm - they all swim to the right when I am Oing from the left. Now I know that he's wrong, they are actually all swimming in opposite directions :lol: Angel, what do you reckon a sinking swimmer smilie (sp?) would look like?? :rofl:

Megsmum - My Dh says the same thing "wrong direction". I reckon we need a "broken/sinking swimmer smilie".

Angel - It makes it hard with DH - he works in the funeral industry - and some days are just worse then others (especially when he has to bury babies or little children). My moodiness just has to wait.