TTC After Miscarriage or Loss June 07

[zionsmom]

Bun~ I completely understand your fears because I cringe just thinking about how I will cope when I get pregnant again. I think about seeing that double line adn I know that I will want to jump for joy and cry out of fear all at once. But please you have to be more positive! When your little bundle of joy is here you are going to look back and wish you wouldn't have been so stressed during your pregnancy. And you don't sound unappreciative at all, its completely understandable. Hang in there.

[cherie26]

Kiwigirl-
I had that last cycle and thought my period was starting again and it turned out that is when I ovualted (Never had ovulation bleed in my life before mc). If you are concerned then see your dr. I just think it takes longer than we all realise to recover from a mc and it changes our body in many ways!

[kiwigirl]

Oh thanks so much cherie - I feel *so* much better!!

I just googled ovulation bleeding and apparently it's quite common??? I have definitely stopped bleeding now and would feel too silly going to the dr.

[BekZ]

Hi Everyone,

SP - Just calling in to see how you are and I know how you must feel in your TWW right now. All the best for your parents.

[britkane8]

hi there girls

hope u dont mind me popping in i have just gone through the same thing as you guys. i was 12 weeks pregnant went for a scan and they couldnt find the baby.
it would be relly nice to get to know you girls as we have been through the same stuff.
i get to ttc in a week and half again which is good and i have had a d&c so it shouldnt take long at all to fall pregnant again.
i was reading through the posts and bun the recovery time is not long at all a day and i had no bleeding at all just a bit of period pain. but as you noticed all girls a different on how it goes.

well hope to chat to u all soon love susan

[mummytotwo]

Bun, I travelled o/s a week after my D&C. I felt physically fine from the day after my D&C. You do not need to know this info though as it is not going to happen to you. Sorry you are feeling the way you are & I hope that you can start to think positively about this baby really soon. The stress will do more harm than good & you deserve to enjoy your holiday so pls try & believe this baby is here to stay.

[claireabel]

Hi girls

Bun you're not neurotic and unappreciative at all, this is stressful time and your reaction is normal. I'm sure that you will get a great result next Monday morning at your scan (we'll be scan buddies!) and will be able to go on your holiday with no worries.

To answer your question though, I was actually due to fly to London to be bridesmaid at my best friend's wedding the day I had my D&C . My obs wouldn't let me fly until the following Monday or Tuesday (the D&C was on the previous Weds) due to the risk factors of having recently been pregnant and having a general anaesthetic. I was a bit naughty though and booked to go on the Sunday, so 4 days later, and he let me, as long as I promised to drink loads of water, wear compression tights and move lots. The flight was looooong though, from Canberra to London via Sydney and Japan, so I can see why he was cautious. In the end, I made it to the wedding and it was a wonderful, but very emotional day.

I'm SURE you won't have to change your holiday plans though Bun, your symptoms are really promising. You have done a wise thing in booking an early scan, as you will see that everything is okay and will be able to go on your holiday knowing all is as it should be.

Zionsmum,

My doctor also told me that she would bet anything I would get pregnant 3-6 mos. from my miscarriage and that it would be great and fine. She has been right on with everything so why not this??? I know she doesn't know the future but it helps give me a little bit of hope right now.

That's such a great attitude! I reckon she's right too, in fact I think we're going to see lots of good news coming from this thread and you girls all really deserve it.

Kiwi - i reckon that's an ovulation bleed too. our bodies should come with an owner's manual though, so man confusing things happen, esp as a female. Have fun on your hol, I'm soooo jealous.

Salt, i know you don't want to get your hopes up, so i'll just quietly say 'omg how good does your chart look!'. not long to go! my LPs usually varied by a day or two aswell and i remember thinking 'if it don't get AF tomorrow, then I'll believe i'm pg' about 4 days in a row! Good luck tomorrow, i hope everything goes well. Make sure you take care of yourself and try not to get too stressed.

Pash, are you there? we're all thinking of you.

Susan, welcome to the group and sorry about the loss of your little one. i hate hearing that other people have gone through this, it's just not fair.

as for me, I reached 7 weeks today, yay! I'm so proud of this little bubba for hanging on. only 5 weeks now till the dreaded 12 week scan when everything went pear-shaped last time, but i keep looking at people in the street and thinking 'you were a 12 week old foetus once, so why shouldn't my baby get to that stage'. oh god i hope so.

The m/s got pretty bad this morning, it's now 4pm and i think i'm managing to keep food down for the first time today - fourth attempt!

Tomorrow is my b'day and the day I should have had ny 20 week scan to find out the sex of my baby. i thought i would feel much worse than i do... i guess having this little baby to focus on makes it easier, and i still 'feel' our other baby around us.

hope you're all okay, you're such a fantastic bunch of women and really do deserve the very best. xx

[Bun]

Thank you so much everyone for your beautiful responses - you have all had me in tears, you are so kind. DH also just sent me a lovely email, so I am very teary right now (and not getting much work done!).

Claire - I knew that someone here had to go to London to be a bridesmaid and couldn't fly but I couldn't remember who it was. I am so glad you managed to get there! It is such a long flight - we fly to Paris and then after a 9 hour wait, on to Spain. I hate the flight at the best of times, so I am not looking forward to it. Looks like we will have a serious problem if the OB's scan on the Mon shows any probs, as we fly out on the Thurs. I am not sure if travel insurance will cover it, as it specifically excludes travel when you have had previous pg complications or medically assisted conception. I don't know if you can call 2 m/cs previous pg complications, and I was on clomid, not to conceive but to hopefully help this one to stick, so not sure if they call that assisted conception or not in my case. I soooo hope we both get positive results on Mon and can breathe out a little. I'm glad you are feeling better than you thought you would, and happy birthday for tomorrow!

mummyto1 - thank you! It's good to hear that it doesn't seem to take too long to recover after a D & C (physically - obviously emotionally is another matter). I had a drug to induce a m/c, and it resulted in 11 days of heavy bleeding and cramping and another 5 days of light bleeding. I would def have a d & c next time, if it comes to that.

Susan - welcome and sorry to hear of your loss.

Salt - yeah, I do have sick leave, but I really don't want anyone suspecting anything, and have been too busy at work to take any time off. I think I might just have to though, I am soo tired I can barely get through the day.

BBL - yet another fire alarm is going off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[2 please]

HI, Im only new too. I am only a few days off from hiting my last miscarrige. It is really stressful, expecally with all the cramping from wind. I will be 7 weeks on Thursday. I am not looking forward to the weekend coz that when I realize it was all going wrong last time. Its gunna be hard not to stress out.

Does anyone have any hints to keep their sanity?

Thanks. Karlie

[Bun]

Back again - we have had soooo many false fire alarms here it is driving me crazy! How am I supposed to talk to my BB pals during work hours with these interruptions?!

Salt - I hope all goes well with your parents op tomorrow. I am sure it will, but I understand you worrying, I would too. Will you have the day off? Why is your position being advertised? Is it just one of those things that they have to do but you should stay anyway? You poor thing - you are under way too much stress right now.

kiwigirl - how scary! I am glad the bleeding has stopped now. I have never had that before, although I did find after my m/cs that the next cycle or two was a bit strange and AF would stop and then come back a bit a few days later, I think m/c just stuffs things around a bit.

zionsmum - thanks. You are right, I should try and enjoy this a little more, I am just letting everything get on top of me.

cherie - thanks for your kind words. I sooo hope this baby is coming home with me, I just couldn't cope with another loss. I hope you have a preggy ticker soon too - there are some really nice ones available right now!

Hi to everyone else. I have just managed to force down lunch, although it is threatening to make a reappearance, and it takes me sooooo long to force a meal down. I am so tired I could fall asleep at my desk. I am so tempted to do a George from Seinfeld and make up a little bed under my desk and set an alarm for home time!

[shellbell]

Hi lovely ladies, have been missing in action, but wanted you all to know that I was thinking of you all and sending lots of hugs and sticky vibes your way.

Will be back tomorrow for personals..

[britkane8]

2 please

you have to stay positive and dont think negative or you body will see that you are stressed honey. you need to relax take it easy and think of happy thoughts the whole way. it has nothing to do with us nor our partners on why we misscarry and after mine i thought of it as a positive. maybe the bubs had many defects and instead of me finding out and having to make a decision god made the decision for me. which i think is good cos it would of been hard for me to make it.
so just keep thinking positive and every thing will work out kepp me informed.

bun

you wont have to cancel your trip cos everything is going to be fine. dont stress

claireabel

thankyou and i hope everything turns out well with you and the bubs fingers crossed this time. you should be fine keep me informed


love susan

[Leyla]

welcome Susan and 2 please. So sorry for what you have been through. I hope that you gain lots of assurance and comfort here, as I have.

Salt - you chart is still looking fab. I'm keeping everything crossed for you. Not sure when I will test. Don't have a very positive feeling about this month anymore.
I hope everything goes well with your parents. I'll be thinking of them and keep them in my prayers.

Bun - I'm sure everything will be fine with your scan. I've got a very good feeling about this bubby for you!

Claire - I'm so sorry to hear about your mum. Sending sticky vibes that this one will stick around to cheer her up.

Big hi to everyone else, sorry for the lack of personals, will try and be more thorough next time.

love

[Sequoia]

Hi everyone

Salt - I hope you get your BFP and good luck for your parents op tomorrow, will be thinking of you.

Bun - extra special sticky vibes for you. Hope your scan goes well for Monday.

Selfish post from me - had a HSG today where they put the dye through the tubes. Everything normal, YAY! I happened to have it at Bethesda where my FS clinic is located so I was able to drop off the results to them and they were pleased with the results. I am CD5 so getting DH geared up to start BD'ing lots very soon!

[Sharon19270]

Saltprincess I think your chart is looking pretty good, can understand about you not wanting to get your hopes up though, I really do hope that you get your bfp in the next couple of days
Bun I have a very good feeling about this pgncy, I know you are scared, and that is totally understandable, I will be too when (if) I get my next bfp. I am sure that everything will go fine at your scan.

Hello to the new ladies here, sorry that you have to join us in here, but they are a great bunch of ladies.

hello to everyone else that I have missed but there is just too much for me to catch up on.

As for me CD 11 here, I have been staying away from the computer for a while as the whole ttc was just getting me down and I really felt like just giving in. A question on temping, we have ducted air con, and because it is winter we tend to leave it on all night so that we don't have to get up to a cold house, now, when I say we leave it on, it is at it's min temp setting (16 degrees) so we are not sweating like pigs it just takes the chill out of the air. Do you think it would make any difference to my temps? I have noticed that my chart is looking pretty good atm with no bigs jumps or dips in temp. Planning on getting some bd in over the weekend, and have had an increased sex drive the last couple of days so lets hope that's a good sign.

[Megs75]

i am new to this. hope you all are doing well.
i have been browsing on here for a while. i lost my baby boy in january this year.it has really helped knowing other people going through the same tragedy.
love megs

[satya]

Hi everyone,

Megs75 - I'm sorry for your loss. Yes, we've all been through it and I think that's what makes us so supportive to each other. Most of the people we come across in the real world don't know we've had a m/c and those that do have often not had one themselves so they just don't understand.

Kiwigirl - Sorry I can't help you with that bleed as I've never had anything like that before. I guess you will know if it was ovulation bleeding if you get your AF in two weeks (hopfully you won't get it at all of course).

Britkane - I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you find the support you need in this forum.

Claire - It's great that the m/s has kicked in with a vengance.

Sharon - As long as you leave your thermostat on about the same temp each night it shouldn't affect your temps. We keep ours on overnight as well and it doesn't seem to have affected anything. One thing I do know is that you shouldn't use electric blankets when you are temping as that does alter your temp.

Cherie - From experience I can tell you that a temp taken at a different time in the day is usually inaccurate. For example I took one in the early hours of Sunday morning (I was staying elsewhere so couldn't see a clock) and got 36.4 so thought I'd ovulated. When I took it at the usual time later on it was only 36 and I had not ovulated as I also got 36 the following morning. I'm hoping the comments about pregnancy will stop now, that the pregnant coworker has gone on her maternity leave. She was probably the worst about it, followed by my closest coworker (in proximity). I couldn't help it recently, I mentioned how as she was nearly 30 with no boyfriend on the horizon she'd better get her bum into gear or she'd still be trying to pop them out at my age. Mean I know, but I wanted her to see how uncomfortable it is to have people say stuff about a subject that you are very concerned about. I hope that O is on its way to you.

Bun - Stop stressing about a D&C. You are not going to need one. If you did you would probably be fine to fly in relation to bleeding but you could be an emotional wreck. Once again I say you will not need one. You need to try and get your paranoia under control or it's going to wreck your holiday and your entire pregnancy. Very few women have 3 miscarriages in a row. Your body was just preparing itself for this pregnancy and now it's well and truly ready - your horrendous morning sickness is constant proof of that. Lecture over now.

It's CD18 for me now & it appears that I O'd on CD16 as I've had two higher temps in a row (jump of .4). Basically I think that puts me out of the race this cycle. We BD'd pretty much every day up until Friday night & then not again until Monday night & that looks like the day I O'd. From what I've read you don't have much chance of catching the egg if you DTD on the same day. Maybe there were some really strong swimmers that lived for 3 days but I doubt it. Well at least I wont sit here imagining that I'm pregnant again this cycle as I know that it is very unlikely.

[nicjay]

Hi everyone,

satya - good luck for this month, you never know now that you are more relaxed about it all it may just happen!

Susan, Karlie and megs75 - welcome, I am so sorry for your losses

Sharon - good luck! I reckon if you've got the ducted on really low and at the same temp each night you should be alright. I'm sure I read on FF if you use an electric blanket to make sure it is on low and the same temp each night, so I guess the same would apply to A/C?

Shoegal - that's great news about your HSG! Good luck for this coming cycle

Bun - please try to stop stressing Although having said that I can understand totally why you are, but everything will be OK this time I just know it! That's great (well not great but YKWIM?) about the tiredness and being sick - it must mean that everything is progressing well. It sounds exactly like what I felt like when I was PG with Megan

Claire - hope you are going well

salt - all the best for your parents op today, I'm sure everything will be fine Stay away AF!!!

pash - I hope you are doing OK

Hi to everyone else that I have missed, hope you are all doing well

Sorry for my absence over the last couple of days, but I have had a sick little girl. We had very little sleep over the weekend with a sore throat and then had a very high fever on Monday and spent the whole day lying on the lounge under our favourite blanket asking for cuddles. Poor little baby! We are doing well today though

We have decided to give TTC a go this month, thanks everyone for asking. I just thought about it for a while and decided that maybe it was best to try and not waste a month, but I must admit I am still worried about what may happen if I actually get pregnant with a low progesterone. I am feeling a bit less worried/concerned about starting on the Clomid - I just wish this cycle would hurry up and be over!

Salt, it is all a bit confusing to me too! But I think what Bun said is right, that I am Oing, but not "properly" (??) whatever that means. When I told my ob that I got a + OPK last month and that my temps seemed to indicate that I had Oed, that is pretty much what he said as well. I guess the progesterone levels just aren't high enough for it all to be happening as it should *shrugs*

Also I did get the CD21 test done a day or 2 later than I should have too (because I had a very short cycle compared to normal last month and it was a bit of a surprise), so maybe it was actually a little bit higher a couple of days earlier - and my ob suggested that this may be the case too.

I guess that is the main reason why I decided to give TTC a go this month, I thought that just maybe the test results were a bit off and they might be better this month. Although I don't really hold out a lot of hope, I was pretty suspicious before I got the test results that the progesterone would be the problem even though I never said it here. I'm also wondering now if it was because I breastfed Megan for a long time - she weaned herself only about 6 months ago - and my hormones have not yet returned to normal? Who knows? Or maybe my hormones just haven't gone back to normal since I gave birth? Certainly while I was feeding her I had no AF for a long time - it came back when she was 14 months old and I started taking the minipill - actually it was really good, between preg and breastfeeding I had no AF for almost 2 years!! LOL