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Hi Treelo, glad you're feeling better and got in a qick Bd too. On that subject, and ignore me if it's too personal, but how often is the accepted thing? I mean do you guys only aim for around O, or do you chuck in a few extra goes at random just in case? I don't know if or when I will O this month, so i thought we'd get going from here on in, I'm at CD 6. I thought I'd aim for at least every 2nd day for the next week, and a couple extra at around cd14. Does this sound right?
treelo so happy to hear all is well! i couldnt get on here last night, never thought i would become so addicted!
beaksie i might have said before, the hospital did not want to see me until 16 weeks, my gp was totally disinterested, he said he would leave it all to the hospital (b/ts, pap smear etc) i have only recently moved suburbs, so he was a new gp but i was really surprised at his total lack of concern, havent been back after the m/c, do you think i should see someone seeing as its been 2 weeks since, i have not had any probs but........
anyway just out of curiosity, is your name rebecca or beck or something?
only thing i was worried about being referred to obgyn is the gap cost, being public patient and all that, im going to have to look in to private.
i did a hpt this morning just to see what would happen, had the faintest of faint lines, not even sure if its not just my imagination, i guess this would be the remains of hormones from m/c? still bleeding lightly but am getting sore bbs, hopefully af is just around the corner!:clap:
Sharon- CONGRATULATIONS!!!! You go girl! :confetti:
LizJessie- Yes, I am getting excited about the wedding now. I can't believe it, not even 2 weeks to go now. YAY for AF!!! :dance: You can start BDing really soon!
Starrysky- I also found out I'd miscarried at the "downsyndrome" scan (mine was at 12 weeks) and apparently the baby had stopped growing at 8.You don't need to minimise your miscarriage because you've only had 1.. As far as I'm concerned, 1 is enough. My GP was fabulous, but the first time I miscarried naturally and the second time, I went to see my Ob. I waited for the miscarriage to start naturally and started bleeding last Tuesday and am still bleeding now. Can't wait for it to stop so we can start TTC again. It shouldn't matter that you aren't with a health fund, your GP should want to help as much as possible. For my second pregnancy, she booked me in for an US straight away because of my previous M/C. Even with private health, the Ob can be so expensive, but I'm seeing one for my own peace of mind. It's an individual choice, but if you want to take on private cover, you need to find out what the waiting period is for pregnany as they may not cover it for the first year.
Beaksie- Staying positive is very hard, but I agree with the other girls, that it helps to be in here where you can talk about everything and 'cleanse' so it's not all kept inside. It's also hard when people tell you to "relax and stay positive" because, once you've had a m/c, it's very hard not to be anxious. All we can do is try.
Littlescottishboy- :hugs: to your Mum.
Hello to everyone else, I hope your week is going well. BFP's all round!!!
Love Ems
Hi Starrysky, yes, Im Bec. Wondering about the cost thing. I'm a public patient (as I said), and I've never paid a single cent for any hospital visit I've had, except for ultrasounds done by sonographer (as opposed to Obs). I've been an outpatient for a while, and it's my inderstanding that if you are referred, all is free. I had an emergency CSwith DD and that was all covered too. I live in a remote town with few health options, maybe this is why? With your faint line, hope its a BFP but Hcg levels can take quite a few weeks to leave your system, so this may be the cause? Id find a better GP by the way!!
hi ems i do think i will suss out the private options , i know of one obgyn who i saw a few years back who was fab, hopefully with dps new business going well, we can afford to him.
hey again beaksiegreat name! my name is bec too! i just wondered because all my uncles used to call me beaky when i was a kid, i really dont know much about the whole hospital pregnancy thing, this was my first experience, not one i would ever wish on anyone........
i will have to look into if i can be referred to a obgyn at the hospital, according to my pregnancy record book, i would not have seen a doctor until the day i was to deliver.
i doubt it is a bfp, i dont think i have even o'd yet, but i suppose its possible.:p
I just realized that I didn't give a proper CONGRATS to Sharon!!!!!:dance::dance: I am so jealous! Not a bad kind just a little envious kind where I want to rub your belly and give myself some luck! ;)
hello zionsmum !
last night i think the bb server went down, i was in the middle of answering a question for you littlescottishboy i know you asked lasand i dont want to step on any toes:redface: but i work in a pharmacy so i thought i could help
baby aspirin in aus is low dose aspirin like astrix or cartia and is only 100mg, you can buy them over the counter for about $4 but i do recall my boss saying that taking aspirin in pregnancy was not recommended unless directed by your doc.
xx
Hi everyone,
Starrysky - you are right about the low dose aspirin. Lots of docs advise not to take aspirin at all because it will increase your bleeding if you have a miscarriage.... so you should only do it if the doc recommends it. Next time you get pg I would recommend seeing a gp straight away. That's what I did last time and I had my HCG level checked on that day. When I went back for the result it was low at 20 but the gp was happy with anything above 5 but when I showed concern (I knew from all my research I should've been about 50 by then) she sent me for another BT 4 days later which showed it had halved. I miscarried the day I got the results. Once you get your first HCG result it should double every 2 to 3 days. If it doesn't problems lie ahead. I will also be getting my progesterone level checked as well next time around. My GP is at a bulk billing clinic and was happy to send me for the tests and even marked them urgent. It's been 2.5 weeks since the m/c (so 3.5 weeks since the first test) and I still haven't received a bill for the tests so I'm hoping they were free. If they had come back doubled she would've referred me on to an ob/gyn of my choice. They either refer you direct to a hospital or an ob/gyn in Victoria. I saw one after my second m/c and I was only out of pocket $65 so don't worry about the cost, it's not that bad at all. Most women under 35 who have had 1 or 2 m/c will go on to have a healthy pregnancy without any treatment at all so do not stress about increased risks. It's only after that age that the risks start rising.
las - congratulations on ovulating.....I wonder what caused that????
treelo - sorry about your hubby the other night... sometimes they have no idea.
Beaksie - I know what you mean, I don't think I'd want to live with me for the first couple of months after a m/c.
Curl - I don't remember feeling like that, but we all handle things differently. I'm sure it will be different next time.
:)
2DPO for me now which means AF should be on her way in about 10 days. I'm not really hoping for a BFP this cycle as I think it would be less stressful to get a BFN until I get the lap. The last few days have been quite difficult - I have had so many symptoms like I had when I was pregnant recently even though I know there's no way I'm pregnant. I hate what my mind is capable of doing. Bleeding gums, headache, vivid dreams, restless sleep, feeling off, pimples, frequent urination, having to get up in the night to pee.... no BB symptoms though which is a relief. I'm sure all this will disappear in a couple of days, I think it's just the change in hormone levels that comes with Oing that does it.
thanx satya, i think what you said about the hormones and ovulating is right, i have been having the same kind of symptoms, which is sort of what led me to do the hpt this morning.
Thanx StarrySky and Satya for the aspirin info. I guess i am just trying to cover all bases, not knowing why i have had the m/c's. I am taking Vitamin E now which thins blood also so i think i'd better stay away from aspirin... my blood will be so thin it will probably disappear! haha.
SO tired tonight... work is just full-on and Angus is so much work at the moment. Can't wait for the w/end - i am going to attempt my first ever abstract canvas painting! (actually, my first painting - ever!).
Satya - i agree, i hate what the mind is capable of doing. My mind dreams up the most annoying things sometimes!
Zionsmum -if you get any luck from rubbing Sharon's tum can you please share some. Thanx.
Ems - thanx for the hug for my mum. I'll give it to her in person next time i see her. And how exciting for you about your wedding!!!! It will be the most beautiful day of your life, i just know it!
Hi treelo, curl, beaksie, lizjessie, nellsbells and i'm sure i've forgotten someone ... ah ha, that's right, You! (insert name here)!!!
As for me, still in TWW, but i think i O'd on day 19 this time so AF should be ages away... just trying to keep busy and not think about it.
Have a great sleep everyone - i love sleep.
ems - I'm really glad AF has arrived - and I think she's leaving me too! woot!
Now it's just count down to BDing
How frustrating, just wrote this big post and my damn computer at work stalled my internet and when I refreshed it had disappeared!! So here goes again (the second is never as good as the first)
I've had such an emotional day (I'm on night shift so sleep deprived) but my SIL (who is actually my very close friend) had her third baby today. They have two girls and today they got their darling boy! at the same time my friend text me (who was a week behind me) had her 12wk scan, everything at once just made me so sad but at the same time I was happy for them. I thought I was travelling along ok, but it's so hard when I'm surrounded by friends and family who are pg or delivering etc it's just not fair!!! This site has been my saving grace to know that i'm not alone! thankyou all!
Starrysky- our d & c's were around the same time, I'm still heavy spotting, just wish it would end, I want to get going again. My Dr told me to wait until i stopped bleeding before Bd. I reckon your + HPT was probably from your pg?? I know what you mean about questions, I have so many too, but the frustrating thing is so many of them don't have answers! and part of my problem is I'm feeling so inpatient and want my body to go back to normal to get cranking again......
Penny- I reckon a faint line is a neg, I think you should go by the manufactors instructions, if still unsure have a BT.
Beaksie- hi and hang in there.
Sharon- Big congrats to you, I'm sure we all feel the same, very envious but absolutely thrilled for you.!!
Treelo- I know what you mean. it's very frustrating when the fellas aren't up for action, I suppose they do have all the pressure, we can just lie back.....
I'm sure i've forgotten heaps from my last attempt, hope we all cruise out of this thread soon
nellsbells - It's hard dealing with other peoples pregnancies and births after m/c. I've dealt with heaps of it since my second m/c. My current challenge is dealing with my SIL who fell pregnant shortly after my m/c and who just doesn't care about our m/c's at all and keeps going on and on about her pregnancy. We are avoiding her as it's just too hard for us to deal with.
:)
I'm so tired again this morning....didn't sleep well again. Had a dream about a pregnant woman.... it was weird as I remember that I thought she was really ugly and I wondered how on earth she managed to get pregnant..... sorry I know that sounds awful but I don't have any control over my dreams. I'd love to know what that dream meant. More bleeding gums today, huge pimple and a .2 rise in temp for me which is unusual for me this early after O.
hi all!
little scottish boy hope you had a good sleep, my fave time of the day at the moment is laying down in bed next to dp, getting big cuddles and drifting off.......problem is i always wake up an hour later.:rolleyes:
lizjessie sending you lots of luck with regards to this months bding!
hi nellsbells! i am only now starting to feel a little normal, my bbs shrank again, (thank god, i dont need any extra)and are back to their normal shape, they stop hurting but then they start again, i keep getting these odd pains in them too.even though this was my first pregnancy i had a tiny defined bump, that has finally gone down. I think i am losing weight too as i have to force myself to eat now, before i was always hungry, nothing could make me feel full.
satya i half feel sorry for my brothers gf. This is my brothers second child (he is 21) his first son was conceived when he cheated on his gf at the time and got the other girl pg, we see my nephew every weekend, he was the first grandchild for my parents, even so, they were so excited about their only daughter finally having a child (i am only 27!!) just after we told them our news about being pg, the gf texts my mum and says she is too. mum didnt answer, and no one in our family has said a word to her about it! mum has said she feels guilty because she just cant get excited about it.
my brother is ****ed off, apparantly they had discussed having a child and they decided against it, ( she had one at 16 and gave it up for adoption to her cousin )
suddenly she is pg. I asked him if he has ever heard of condoms?:rolleyes:
anyway she is the type of chick who will have a fight with my brother and then nick off, so we will probably never see the child anyway........ i hope she doesnt do that, but it wouldnt surprise me!
i keep having this recurring dream where all these girls keep coming up to me and telling me they are pg with my brothers child, obviously i have issues!!:redface:
anyway, today i would have been 12 wks pg, i wish i wouldnt remember things like that,.
i received my tax return yesterday!!! went out for a bit of retail therapy, got all my hair lopped off (about 30cm of it anyway) bought some new threads, i think i will do the same today.
i am getting so bored not working.
xxxx hope you all have a great day and bfps coming soon!xxx
starrysky
I'm so sad, one of my best friends txted me to say she's having a D&C today, she was 16 weeks pregnant but didn't want to have a scan at 12 weeks. Sounds like it's molar/partial molar from the scan she finally had today :(
hi kiwigirl, that is sad news. hugs to you and your friend.
at least you can tell her about a great forum where she will get the best support and advice.
hope your day gets better.
starryskyxxx
Hi everyone, hope your all travelling Ok...
Satya - Gday. Funny about the freaky dreams. I actually dreamt I was preg last night too! Had this big round tum with wiggly baby inside. Very odd.When I was preg with DD I always dreamt I was holding the baby in my hand and it gradually shrank to the point of being so small I couldnt see it, only to disappear altogether. Always freaked me out. Was wondering (excuse my ignorance) how the temping thing works, and what your temp diff after O might mean?
Nellsbells_ Hi. Sorry all those hideous pregnant people are stalking you. Makes life rather hard when you've got to have a fake smile plastered to your face, when all you really want to do is run and hide (maybe thats just me lol)
Starrysky- Go the retail therapy!! If Im not on this site, I'm on ebay. Bad, Bad, Bad.
As for me I'm doing OK. Told DP if he really wants a footy team (yes he really does), then we have to get serious, and bd when I tell him etc.I think he finally sees that if we dont get on with it, I may just chicken out, and give up, so surprisingly he agreed, and all systems GO.
Whoa, what a long post.....catch yas, ebay is calling......:D
Hi Kiwigirl. Just wanted to say I'm so sorry for you and your friend. Please give her lots of hugs, she'll be needing them. Take care.
Thanks heaps. I'm over the initial sick-to-my-stomach feeling and had a little cry for my friend. She's the third friend in 3 weeks to have a m/c but she's the friend I'm closest to and the most far along of them all.
This happens far too often.
Satya, I'm no dream expert or anything but I wonder if your dream was that you are subconsciously wondering why other people who don't deserve it in your eyes are getting pregnant???
Beaksie, I take my temperature every day at the same time before getting up, talking, or doing anything. I chart it. The first half of your cycle your temp. is lower than after O. If you're pregnant, your temps stay high for the first 12 weeks or so - so people can read into higher temps after O than normal as a possible early sign of a BFP. Hope that makes sense! You can see my chart by clicking on my ticker.
Kiwigirl-thanks for the info, but it looks far too much like maths to me! I envy you your patience, I dont think I would last a week. Just looking at your chart gives me a headache (lol). Think I will have to stick with the oldfashioned way. Does temping show WHEN you will O, or do you already know that?
Hehe yeah the top chart is confusing since it's overlaying them all. Temping doesn't predict O, just tells you afterwards that you have. Checking your CM type to see if it's fertile is actually way more reliable way to predict O and I find it easier to read than my temps anyways.
Starrysky - gee that's all a bit awkward with your brother.
Kiwigirl - sorry to hear about your friend.... you will be the best friend she's ever had because you know what it's like.
Beaksie - they were weird recurring dreams you had! As kiwigirl said a 2nd rise a few days after O is a good sign but as this is my first cycle after m/c it probably doesn't mean much as my temps were all over the place prior to O. That said though it helps keep me positive just the same.
I had a bit of a difficult moment earlier. The friend from work that had the baby recently just showed up unexpectedly with both kids. I goo'd and gaa'd for a little and made my exit out to the storage room where no one could see my tears.... only a few, but I just felt so sad. I should be around 6 months gone now, or around that many weeks if you go with the next pregnancy.... and she had to arrive on the day I had to go and get my karyotyping test done and all the other BT's I have to get done. Typical.
Just thought in and pop my head in and say hello.
satya - how are you going??
hey satya, thats the way it always happens, its the universes funny little way of trying to make us stronger, i am sure you coped beautifully.
good luck with all the testing, i hate bts.
xxx
nellsbells- I know exactly how you feel (as I'm sure most, if not everyone here does) when everyone around you seems to be having babies or falling pg. One of my friends is due a week after my first baby would have been due in Sept and another friend is due a week after the second one, in Jan. Both are doing fine. I am happy for them but do keep wondering "what if..."
There is a baby crying next door as I type this infact. They do seem to be everywhere.
Satya- I'm glad you were so brave with your workmate and her baby. It is hard to do so don't beat yourself up about being sad.The dream you had is just making you aware of your frustration. I think the most frustrating thing about m/c is seeing people drink and smoke and take drugs and have healthy babies. Sorry for the vent but I know someone who took drugs throughout pregnancy and beyond, and thenm through the second one and has two beautiful children. Not fair! Unfortunately, we do have to try and let it go. We will get there. It's your turn next! I'm sorry about your SIL being so inconsiderate.
LizJessie- has AF left yet? I hope so.
Kiwigirl- I'm sorry about your friend. :hugs: for her. Hopefully this site can help her too.
Beaksie- I'm glad your DP is keen to get cracking on his footy team again!
Starrysky- Some people just manage to fall pg so easily, don't they? Sad for your brother though, if they'd decidied against having a child. It must've been hard for her also, not being able to be excited. Poor thing. Good on you for your retail therapy spree. I hope you enjoyed every minute of it. 30cm's off your hair??? How long was it?
As for me, still bleeding and it's been 10 days. When will it stop?! I'm ready to move on now. Seeing my Ob on Tuesday, so hopefully everything will be gone of it's own accord.
Hope you're all having a good day.
Love Ems
Hi everyone
This is my first post here. I m/c one week ago today not TTC just yet but will be soon just wanted to pop in and say hi. If you dont mind me asking how long after mc did you TTC???
hi ems,
i am back now a lot poorer, but hey it was worth every cent!
my hair was pretty long i was just about sitting on it, i only get it cut every 3 years or so cause its too expensive.as soon as the hairdressers see my hair their eyes light up $$$$$!!!
i am so over the bleeding too, 16 days and counting, i am sure yours will stop before the big day, i hope so for you.
xxx
ems - yeah, she's on her way out - still spotting a tad, but I'm not complaining
hey lizjessie just wondering........i saw in your ttc journal that you were near mandurah? do know a chickie named kosha at all?
leila hi, glad to see you here. The docs said to wait 2 weeks to minimise chance of infection, couldnt wait that long though (sorry if tmi!) but i am still spotting, have not yet had af, dont really want to think too much about ttc yet, does my head in, but hey if it happens, it happens, and wouldnt that be loveley!
hope you are travelling on alright, these girls are all fantastic and my inspiration to continue.
xxx
Hi girls,
There are just too many for personals today.....i just wanted to pop in and say hi to everyone and wish you all a wonderful weekend.
hugs
treelo
hi treelo,
read your update, hope you have a fantastic weekend too
hugs for you
xxx
Leila- Welcome to TTCAML. I hope you are not here for too long. I'm sorry for your loss. I started TTC straight away after my first MC. Still waiting for the second one to finish but I would love to start TTC straight away. I noticed you had a missed MC. Did you have a D&C? I hope you are not depressed for too long. You will find lots of support in here.
Treelo- I hope you have a good weekend too.
Hi to everyone else and enjoy yourselves this weekend! :dance:
hmm well, i ranted about my brothers gf before, im actually a bit worried about her atm.... spoke to mum today, apparantly my brother came home and told her that gf is bleeding and cramping, but wont tell him whats going on, he is a bit of a control freak and quite secretive so he didnt want mum to ring her, to keep the peace mum didnt, now he is losing it at mum cos she didnt and he wants to know whats going on.
i wish i had her number,the horrible thing is that its quite poss she never even was pg, she has done this before, i hate to say it but i think she does it so she can fool him into having unprotected sex with her to get pg, only it doesnt work.....
but if she really is, then i know what shes going thru.......i dont know......:doh:
Hi Leila - Welcome and sorry for your loss hun. Sorry you have to be in here (but it's a pretty nice bunch of people to hang out with, i must say!).
StarrySky - your brother must be going through a lot, the poor thing. Does he want to have a baby? If he does, then i feel for him if the girlfriend is only using him for unprotected sex- not fair on your bro. But if she really was preg and she is m/c, then i feel sorry for them both ... i hope it all resolves itself in the best way for everybody. But i know how you must be feeling, cos family issues can get vey complicated sometimes!
Have a nice weekend everybody!
Hi Leila,
Firstly, so sorry for your loss. Everyone here seems to have been told different things about when to commence TTC. I was told by my Dr to wait until I've had two normal cycles before TTC and I know others didn't wait at all and a few fell pg straight away. I m/c'd 4 wks ago this morning and I still haven't started AF yet which is very frustrating as I want to be on the way to a healthy pregnancy NOW! What have you been advised?
take care, Curl
Hi to everyone else!
Hi everyone thanks for your responses.
Ems i had to have a D&C i had it las Friday night 17/8.
Apparently the ob told DH night of D&C that everything was fine in there and no reason we can TTC immediately....
Starrysky i could imagine how frustrating that is for your family hopefully your brother will be ok and the gf isnt actually 'playing' this sort of game with him. Your mum sounds like she is stuck in a hard place though...
Decided as soon as spotting stops DH and i will TTC again - he really wants it to happen so hopefully with all the positive energy it wont take long (my fingers and toes are crossed)
Hope your all doing ok
good luck leila, fingers crossed for a bfp coming your way soon xxx
G'day. Just dropped in to say a quick hello, but could it be that everyone else has a life? Only me at a computer on a Saturday night? Or are we all at the boring part of our cycles and have nothing to report? Im still trying to work out where I am. Any ideas? I stopped taking the pill about 1/2 way through the month, Af arrives approx 3 days later for 4 days. Im counting my cycle from the 1st day of bleeding, but as I stopped the pill abruptly (impatient as I am) I'm not sure. I think Im Cd 8, but could I be wrong. As you can tell Im rather confused....
Happy Saturday night to all, hope your either Bding or out having a good night!
Leila - Im sorry for your loss hun. You are definatly in the right place here for understanding people.
Beaksie - Do you have msn??? if your ever bored you can chat to me on there - treelo_9@hotmail.com. In fact if anyone wants to add me to there contacts, your most welcome.
I think you should start counting from when you started bleeding, but it might be wise to use a OPK to just check if you ovulate when your meant to. I know how confusing it is......
hugs
treelo