TTC after Miscarriage or Loss ~ July 07

Hi all!
Thought I would pop in and see how many more BFP's we have this month.
Kiwigirl- everyone is right dont give up yet as you temps are still good and alot of women have spotting and turn out to be pregnant I think this is your month!
Zionsmum- I know the feeling on the bding all month I thought I ovulated on cd 20 got a positive opk but didn't end up ovulating due to sickness (didn't know that could happen but comfirmed by ob) so had bloods done and am ovulating at present cd 31! so all that bding previously wore us both out and know have to go at it again! so got one in last night and thinking we will leave it at that this month and hope that they will make it to its destination! Your cm sounds promising so just keep up monitoring and you will really be able to tell when you are fertile and hopefully this month we will all catch the egg!

Susan- I have read that it is possible but very very rare and it all depends how regular your cycles are and how long you have bled for during af. I google everything so give it a go and I reckon you will get a proper answer.

So now I am back to the start of the tww the first one was hard enough but to have to do it again this month omg!
Good luck everyone!

ps has anyone heard from salt she hasn't been in for a while and her parents not long had their op hope everthing is ok.

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for all the encouragement :) I am officially meant to test on Friday when AF is due.. so here's hoping I make it to the test date without AF coming! Not spotting today (yet) so that's good.

Penny - I totally hear you on the waiting for AF front, I felt like I was waiting forever after the D&C but it ended up being 5 weeks - a lot less than some people have to wait. Temping helped me pass the time but my post D&C chart temps were all over the place and no pattern (feel free to have a look at mine if you want).

Timnik, I'm so sorry about your tooth!!! I smashed my front two when I was a kid and have crowns now and no-one (even me) can tell the difference.

zionsmom, congrats on your stamina this month haha. It does get exhausting eh?

cherie, hope this is your month..only takes one BD!!! :)

Hello everyone, hope all is good in your worlds.

kiwigirl Best of luck to you for your test on Friday, hope it brings you a BFP :crossfingers: Then we can all celebrate!!
zionsmum That is a great effort to BD every day! I find it hard enough to get the time and energy to BD when I think I am O'ing. Do you believe that wives tale about putting a pillow under your bum and not getting up for a bit afterwards? Good luck to you, I hope you catch the egg this month.
shoegal Think you said you were O'ing today, good luck to you - sending lots of :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: your way! I know what you mean about being a little sick of BDing. I am happy to have AF around just to give things a break, and I dont think I even looked at DH a week before either!
satya my AF is always similiar to what you describe as yours, always very light. In fact I would say that normally I really only get 2 days of proper bleeding. This month I had the light spotting for a couple of days then just the last couple of days it has become quite heavy which is very unusual. I am hoping that it will be a good clean out for a fresh start this coming month. If you find anything out about light AF please let me know! I suspect it would be something to do with hormone levels?
Sharon19270 Good luck to you that this is your month as well!

Got my tooth fixed yesterday, I am pretty happy with the job that they did but the colour of the cap he put on is not a perfect match. I am happy enough just not to have a bit gap there now though and maybe the colour will blend in over time?

Started my third cycle of clomid today, this is the last one too so if it doesn't work I will have to find out about other options which I am a bit scared about. I am supposed to ring dr today to CD21 bt results but don't think I will bother because I know that it didn't work last month so what's the point?

That's all from me for now - hello to anyone I have missed.

Wow! Thanks, everyone for your support after my first post. It's amazing how much everyone is going through and thinkng of others at the same time. Yes. it looks like the m/c rate after IVF isn't higher than natural conceptions so I'll try not to worry about that.
Satya, I can understand your concern but if the toilet frequency continues I'd be doing a test. With my short-lived pregnancy I was running to the toilet often and remember you can have what's like a light period and be pregnant which is why some women don't realise till well along the way. It's a long shot but as I said may be worth checking.
Otherwise good luck with the IVF, I look forward to hearing how you go.:)

sienna I love being able to come in here and read about how everyone who has had a loss is experiencing similar emotions to me, makes me feel not so alone. Hope your stay in here is short.
timnik77 hope this cycle of clomid works this time for you :crossfingers:
kiwigirl Good luck for Friday hope you get a BFP :SAAF:
cherie26 good luck, hope the TWW goes quickly for you. As for Salt I think she said she was taking a bit of a break from the forum as she really did think she was pg last month.
satya my AF's where always extremely light before I had my D&C and I never really thought anything of it, I am sure that you are fine and that it is just a hormonal thing.
zionsmom the first month I started charting I got completely obsessed with it LOL but after a few months I settled down, and now I only really obsess when i'm in my TWW.
kbowman it was a long time to be stuck, but everyone got out of their cars, walked their dogs, and my 2 boys and my eldests gf played a little bit of soccer so that helped to pass the time.
britkane8 like everyone else has said, it is extremely rare to O while you have AF but not completely unheard of.

As for my I am completely over this TWW already, and I am really itching to start testing, FF says that I cant test until a week on Saturday, now I am certain that there is no way on earth that I can go that long without getting a sneaky on in LOL 10 days is so far away :(

Hey Salty, glad to have you back hun. Glad to hear your parents are doing well. Please know we are all here for you.

Question for everyone - what do you think is the earliest you can test after O? I don't want to be silly and test at 6DPO or anything like that because I know I will get a BFN. When I was pregnant, I tested at 16DPO (day AF was due) and am just interested in others experiences. I do remember getting implantation cramping at 8DPO and wondered if I would get a +ve result after this time....

God, I only O'd yesterday (had cramping last night) and am already thinking about testing! This TWW is gonna go soooo slowly! I have to say I quite like it though?! Makes me feel positve and that anything could happen... *sigh*

shoegirl- with my first pregnancy I was 12 dpo and with my second i had negatives up until 11 dpo. I am a POAS aholic and started from 7dpo with my second because I just knew I was pregnant. It is better to wait as long as you can though to avoid disappointment.

Salt- Glad everything is ok! It sucks your af showed up. Did it take you long to fall pregnant the first time? For me it going on 4 months since my mc and I honestly thought I would be pregnant now but my body is just taking so long to recover and I am having extremely long cycles and Oing late. I just hope that this journey ends for us all soon and are pregnant!

Sharon- OMG! another 10days after already waiting 7 I wouldn't have the strength! Goodluck!

Has anyone used an opk as a hpt? I have been reading a bit about it and seems to work! The positive opk comes up the day before or the day of the positive HPT. Just curious if anyone else has tried this?

Have a good day everyone!:crossfingers: for everyone testing!

Nicole: jUst wanted to say it is worth phoning re; your progesterone. If you prog isn't as high as your obs would like it they will up the doseage of clomid. This will give you optimal chances of conceiving. I had mine increased until finally I was on 150mgs and that is the doseage that *Col* was conceived on.

I hope that helps.

Big hugs Saltprincess :hugs: it is tough when your period comes... Sending you lots of love... :hugs:

Shoegal: I am a poas addict too. With the pregnancy before this one I tested positve at 8dpo using LC 10miu. This time I didn't test positive until 11dpo (verrrry feint) using the same test. If you can handle the angst there are a lot that test positive around 8dpo but if it's negative that doesn't mean you are not pregnant. This pregnancy I was convinced I wasn't pregnant because it was negative at 10dpo. But here I am!
Some women prefer to wait so whatever the result is it's a definite others like me can't wait! Good luck! :hug:

shoegirl, I got a BFP in January on 12DPO but hadn't tested before that.

hey there girls

well i think i might have some good news.lately i have been getting all the pg symptoms that i had with the previous pregnancy.so i did a hpt today when i got home from work and i got a really faint line.so i am going to try again in a week or so.so fingers crossed...

love susan

Hi Girls....

I thought i would just pop in and spread some :stickyvibesboy: and :bluedust: around to you all.... Know that all my thoughts are with you guys...

Kerry, Satya, Sharon and SP are the only ones left from our little group from earlier in the yr..... Their is TRUCK LOADS of each coming your way.......

My due date has just passed on the 7/7/07 was okish, actually the first due date i got given was 30/6/07 that was a harder day i veged out most of the day then dragged myself out and had a night out with friends it kind of helped but not really....

Only 5 mths and 3 days until i start TTC again and my wedding day... Its really hard not TTC.. And amazingly my cycles are near normal again which is great, i even had a 27 day cycle this month OMG never had one was so shocked.. I have also been able to pinpoint my fertile window which means fingers crossed no temping when we start again..

OH and also wanted to share that i feel that the main reason my cycles are so good has something to do with seeing a Naturapath, best thing i have ever done, he firstly put me on herbal tablets to regulate cycles but i stopped them after we decided to stop TTC it since then they have been nearly perfect cycles.. He is also working at getting my body nice and healthy for when i do fall pg.. So well worth a go girls if you are thinking of going down that path...

HUGS all round and more :stickyvibesgirl: and :bluedust:

Hi guys,

Has been ages since I've posted! Have just passed my EDD which has been so incredibly hard. Had no idea I would still feel this bad. Just feel like such a massive failure for not being pg yet. I'm so desperate to be pg but at the same time have been really slack about monitoring things this cycle. I keep forgetting to temp and test at the proper times and am usually so pedantic about those things! I think I am just so over the whole thing, and deep down feel like it will never happen for me.:cry:
I do have a question for everyone - has anyone heard anything about mis-matches in blood types causing problems in fertility? I don't mean the RH +/- one but the A or O one (hope that made sense!). I read that sometimes if the mother is type O and the father is A the females body can attack the males sperm and see it as an invader, same thing with an embie if it is type A... just wondering if anyone else had heard of that.
I'm currently 13DPO and have had loads of EWCM today. Got a quick BD in but think it is still to early for me to O. I'll just have to see what happens.
Big welcome to all the new girls, I truly hope that your stay here is short.
Sorry for the lack of personals, I'm so behind! Hope everyone is well.

loads of love and baby dust

Just wanted to pop in to say congrats to Susan on getting a feint line!!

Salt - Glad your parents are recovering well. Sorry that AF arrived, and I hope you are feeling better *hugs* I never feel like posting much when AF is around either, must be the hormones :)

Leyla - Know what you mean when you say that you feel like a failure for not having conceived again by your EDD, as those thoughts have been in the back of my mind. It's amazing I am still treading water in trying to get anywhere on this TTC journey. Sorry, I haven't heard anything about the different blood types - but it sounds interesting and you'll have to let us know if you discover anything.

Jane - Hi! Time is going to fly between now and your wedding day - how exciting! What type of treatments are you having with your naturopath to help with your body, now that you have stopped the herbal tablets? I have been having acupunture treatments for the last few weeks after having a "tongue analysis" which said that my fears are behind what is holding me back and this is reflected through my kidney. It's all been very interesting and different for me to get my head around, but I've been open to it :)

Cherie - I've never tried to use a OPK as a HPT, but I think I read in a post on here previously that it can work. Maybe worth searching the threads to read about it?

Shoegal - The time I got a BFP it was on 13DPO, yet I got a negative on 9DPO.

Sharon - Ok, confess - have you POAS yet? LOL Even when I know that it's too early I still test and test and test, so you are not alone. There is no way I would wait 10 more days if I were you, maybe 4 or 5???

Kerry - Hope you are enjoying your holiday time and hope that you have caught that egg!

Hello to everyone else I have missed, hope you are all travelling well.

As for me - I am now up to Day 41 of AF, which has become much heavier and I now have lots of pain and lower backache to go with it. My GP seems to think that I have miscarried again without even realising I was pregnant. Anyway I've had a whole heap of blood tests and an ultrasound, and go back tomorrow morning to find out what they have to say. The ultrasound lady told me that my lining was 9mm thick and irregular, but I have no idea what that really means, except I wouldn't have thought it would be so thick with the amount of bleeding and clotting I've had. So I guess I will have to leave it to the experts and find out what they say tomorrow.

Hope everyone has a good night.

Cheers
Belinda

saltprincess glad to hear that your parents are going OK, hope to see you around here a bit more now that AF has gone, I don't really feel like posting much when I get AF either, and it usually takes me until I am nearly O'ing to get back into the swing of things again.
Shoegal I got a very very faint +ve 9 dpo the cycle after my D&C but then 2 days later nothing, then AF showed so it looks like it was a chemical, but with my pgncy in December I tested at 10 dpo and got a bfn but then tested again at 12 dpo and got my bfp.
cherie26 I may be able to hold out until next Wed (but I doubt it :lol:)
britkane8 congrats on the feint line, hope it gets darker for you over the next week :crossfingers:
janeo thanks for popping in, I really feel like we need all the sticky vibes we can get, it was so very sad losing so many in our BB group. Glad to hear that everything is going so well for you, the next 5 months are going to fly by. Don't know how I am going to react to my due date when I reach it, will cross that bridge when I come to it.
missbelinda77 I haven't tested yet, but have been VERY tempted, I bought a box of hpt yesterday and have resisted the urge, and will try to wait at least another 5 days. WOW 41 days of AF that is very long, good luck with you BT/ultrasound results tomorrow.

Salt I'm glad that your mum is doing well. And your Dad must be doing ok too, seeing as they are letting him come home? I wish them a smooth recovery. I'm sorry to hear that you got AF on the day of the op. I really think you will fall pg soon, at a happier time, and it will be.
Rachael I hope this is your month too. Each month, I expect you to fall pg, I guess because it was so quick for you the first time. But if its not, don't beat yourself up over it. I am sure it will happen, and soon.
Britkane Congratulations!! :confetti: Wishing a healthy sticky bub for you
Leyla :hugs: I am so sorry that you're having a rough time. I've read that some of the girls buy some jewellery or plant something or do something nice to commemorate their EDD in a positive way. I don't know if you think that would work for you. But it is important to remember that you are not a failure for not conceiving yet. Just cos it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't. These are thoughts I battle with everyday too.
Belinda Wow, 41 days of AF! Makes my bleeding seem like a walk in the park! That sounds aweful. I hope you get some answers tomorrow.

In the last 2 weeks, I've had 2 ERPCs (which is apparently a D&C with a handyvac), and spent longer in hospital with more antibiotics than I could ever wish for.

The good news is that they tested & retested the results of each ERPC, and none of them showed any signs of molar pg.

The bad news is that the docs have no idea why my HCG was so high & rising. One doc called me to say that stuff had grown back, like some kind of terminator baby, in between ERPCs. But really, I think she missed bits the first time round.

3 weeks on I am still bleeding. On Sunday, I got dizzy, puffed & collapsed after going grocery shopping. I tried to explain to the GP that I pass out every Sunday after lunch, but she tested me and found I am now anemic.

Had a scan today, and the good news is that I don't need another ERPC (thank f*&k). I but I still have some more bleeding coming my way. I wish this m/c would just end!

Overall, I think DH & I are coping pretty well. For me it feels easier the second time round. I feel like I need to be strong because who knows how many more m/cs I'll have to go through before we have a child. But I feel strong enough to take it.

Sometimes I get a bit sad though. Like today, as I walked to the hospital, I was remembering walking away from the hospital not so long ago. DH & I were terrified but over the moon, cos we'd just been told we were expecting twins. It was all I could do to not just bawl on the pavement.

Also I really really miss the BDing! Its been soooooo looooong! Its been a long time between drinks too. I finish my antibiotics tomorrow and am going on a major bender.

Hi everyone,

Shoegal - I think most experts say not to test until at least 10DPO. I would've been about 21DPO when I tested positive as I wasn't obsessed with getting pg back then and just realised I was a whole week late and tested, still thinking it would be negative, but it wasn't. I try not to test early now as I've read some stuff about false positives in women of my age... something to do with some women having HCG in their systems late in their cycle which causes it. I will just wait til my AF is due and then test..... god I hope I can keep to that, but I have since I read this info.

Susan - congrats on the feint positive. I hope it gets darker and darker.

Janeo - I'm glad you got past your due date OK. I'm dreading mine, but I don't have to face that until November.

Sienna - I don't think I will test unless something really obvious shows up. The weeing thing comes and goes with me, has been happening since my m/c, could be to do with the fibroid (if it is one). I don't even think it is possible to be pg with such low temps (around 36.2) so I would have to be throwing up or fainting or something for me to bother to test. I am still tired and hungrier than normal but I really don't think I'm pg.

Sharon - good luck holding out for testing.

Salt - glad your folks are OK. I also hate getting AF - it really gets me down each and every time and it never arrives without floods of tears from me.

Leyla - I'm sorry your due date was so difficult. Unless I'm pg by mine I think I will be the same. The wife of a guy at work is due around the same time I was and I had to endure the details of their recent scan a couple of weeks ago... it was so hard. I would have been 19 weeks then and I would have been having the same scan done. I just wanted to cry. I'm thinking of taking time off work around my EDD as I don't think I will cope well at work.

Cherie 26 - Wow that's a very long cycle. Good luck with your TWW.

Timnik - I think the difference in tooth color will be less noticeable once you get used to it and I doubt other people would notice it anyway.

Belinda - How awful - 41 days of AF. I had a friend who got AFs like that and it turned out that she had endo. She always had to take time off work whenever it happened. The good news is she ended up having two kids even though she was told it was not very likely.... and on the other hand I had regular 28 day cycles and was told there was no reason for me not to conceive and here I am still trying to do it.

Pash - That's good news about the pg not being molar. You really have been through a lot in the last few weeks. I hope you are looking after yourself. Enjoy your bender & I send lots of anti-hangover vibes in your direction.

:)
Nothing to report with me. CD6, I'm tired, I'm hungry and I'm so envious of every pregnant woman on this earth.

pash I am so glad that the pg wasn't a molar. It would have been very hard to hold it together while you went back to the hospital. I sometimes sit and wonder how many m/c would I be prepared to go through to get another baby, and if I was younger I think I would keep going but I have decided that if I am not pg by Feb next year that will be the end of ttc for me as I just don't want to end up with another huge gap between the kids. I hope you bleeding stops soon and that you can get back to some bd'ing. Enjoy your 'bender' when the anti-b's are finished. Big :hugs: to you
satya everytime I see a pregnant woman in the street, or someone with a newborn I get so terribly jealous and just wish that it was me.

Oh Belinda big HUGS!!!! Good luck with all the tests you are in my thoughts... I am on tablets for my back at the moment he is focusing on that... He does acupuncture every session, we are focusing on how and why my back flares up, seems to be worst at Oing time and not as bad but bad at AF time... I was seeing him fortnightly but we are out to 3 weekly now...

Really the whole due date thing came and went for me surprisingly but i was busy with work and had a engagement party the night of... But talking with a pg friend who is due anyday helped again surprisingly.. Plus i think i helps that im focusing on my wedding and not TTC that really helped... Plus there are some great things in my life at the moment, im getting married, i just got a new car, my dear friend who had PND is back to normal and life is just great at the moment...