Trying to Conceive after Stillbirth/Late Loss/Recurrant Miscarriage October

YAY!!!! Welcome baby Anna. Congrats to Katie, DH and big brother Nathaniel.

Sue, don't you dare leave this thread.

Hi Buliej!

[COLOR="Magenta"][SIZE="7"]finally!!!!![/COLOR]
[SIZE="4"]Anna you kept us waiting![/SIZE]
Big big congrats and hugs to you all! i am so happy for you all, treasure this very special time!!!:grouphug: it is only the start of many special memories! Anna Francis is a beautiful name! I have no doubt that Nathaniel is sharing in these moments too...

hi again!
wanted Katies message to be on its own but its all screwed up! sorry Katie!!!
anyway, the rest of you -
Buliej - feel free to join in..no need to lurk in here!
hammi - you make me smile! You are so funny with your little TTC things and the way you put them.I have no vibes this month, I never get anything major anyway so i would never know...just had some mild cramping but put that down to ovulation and constipation and the runs which is very normal for me anyway (gotta love TMI in this forum!)...I am due on the 2nd of dec but it may be late more due to stress from jacks date on the 30th more than anything!
syran -i second hammis "don't you dare leave this thread!" We are all here for you!
tildy? hope you are ok!!!!!! Please drop in soon and let us know how you are going....
need to shop on ebay now...work has just put a theme on our party and what i was going to wear i have to change! :wall: Want something a bit spesh!
x jo

Yay for Katie!!!! Can't wait to hear some pics of your gorgeous girl. It sounds like it was a very quick labour!!!:happyforyou:

Lan, I'm stil around, and no DH has not got lucky since, it's almost 2 weeks now!!! We had both sets of family here last weekend and during the week I'm tired so timing has not seemed right.

Lots of babydust to the three ladies trying this month or next, we'll need some new ladies just to actually call this a TTC thread because we'll all be pregnant!!! That includes you Bulliej, you should know that this thread leads to quick BFPs!!!

So sad about Stickybaby... I don't know how ladies like her keep their chins up. Having children already doesn't give you the option of falling apart I suppose. After our loss, DH's best friend's mother (who he's quite close to) told him that after her first 2 kids she had something like 12 consecutive losses between 13 and 26 weeks due to placental abruption before she finally had her son (who is the friend and who didn't know about it before). A very brave and determined lady.

As for me, bubba is kicking lots which is lovely. Next weekend is the 22 week mark. I tried to book us into a spa retreat that does pregnancy treatments for the weekend but they were fully booked. Instead I'm trying to fill the weekend with fun and distracting things. It's fri- mon that's the issue, because last time it was on Friday I stopped feeling movement, worried all weekend then had it confirmed on Monday.

Had a bit of a breakdown the last couple of days, just thinking about Edward. Lan's picture of Hamish was so amazingly beautiful and I wish I could have something like that but our photos aren't that great. Our best photo is one where is eyes are actually open, no-one else seems to have pics like that. I took it out on DH of course. Sometimes I feel like we're the only people who care that he existed and grieve for him, our families have been supportive but I don't feel like they feel it as a personal loss. My parents have other grandchildren. I know Alec's dad was very sad as he was the first grandchild, but still. It feels very isolating sometimes.

Anyway, enough wallowing, hope everyone else is doing well, I think Tildy and I are the next to be due, but in a long time! After we give birth there are heaps of us due within a month or two, will be lots of good news on here then.

Love Rozzie

Oh, Katie, yay! I was so happy to wake up to your news today! Welcome, Anna Francis! We've all been so anxious for your arrival!

Laney, I can understand you being nervous about scans, even if I seem in the minority in that I didn't find out about Beiron's passing at a scan. Every time we have had one I've held my breath until we saw the heartbeat or the nurse said things were okay. Take it one step at a time, and smile and celebrate the successful 12 week scan when you have it at least for a little while before beginning to worry about the next one.

Jo, I know it will be tough that your friend's baby is named Jackson. But if they hadn't used the name, you'd hear it in other places, especially if it is common. I think you're right, that you can't go around being angry at them for using that name. I hope you're not offended by the following comparison, but we have close friends who sort of had "joint custody" of a black lab with a friend of theirs, but the lab had to be put down at just 5 years old after years of suffering with a chronic hip problem. Last year our friends bought a new black lab, and the girl they'd shared the previous one with got angry and stopped speaking to them. It was too hard for her. But then the same girl actually had a baby, and she came to a different kind of peace about losing the dog she'd cared for for so long (he required lots of extra help and love) and was able to make friends again and accept our friends' new pup. It's so hard being reminded of a painful loss, but I think the solution is always time and acceptance.

Yup, Lan, I'm still using the doppler. The movements are still sporadic, and in fact, it sort of feels like they're occuring less and less often. But I do feel some movements at least once a day, usually in the evening after dinner when I'm lying on the couch watching TV. It was funny on Saturday actually; we were at a friend's for dinner and they started talking about birth order and all the extra responsibility that the first-born ends up having, and Kebab started kicking lots! S/he didn't like hearing how much work was ahead... I think every other day is a good TTC schedule, Lan! We were doing every third day the month we got pregnant with Beiron, and every other day in the two months we were TTC for Kebab.

I can imagine that Stickbaby's news hit you hard, Sue. In fact, you guys used the same ticker, so when I saw her news I actually thought it was you for a moment. I got really, really upset when I thought it was you, since I was so routing for your miracle baby and I know you better than I know her. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm saying I was relieved that it was her, because believe me, I see that she's had 6 losses before and I can't believe that anyone has had to be through that much. But I hope it's okay for me to say that I'm glad your bubs is hanging in there! BTW, how are things going with your GD? Isn't it very early to get that? I'm sorry you have to have the extra... uh, damn, my English is for **** this morning. Sorry about the extra "bekymmer" is all I can come up with, and you'll have to settle for a Swedish word! Anyway, I'm concerned about getting GD myself as I'm mildly obese, and I've been doing a terrible job of eating healthily during this pregnancy. I'm hoping luck will be on my side, as so far I have such good red blood counts and sugar levels that the midwife thinks I'm an overachiever.

buliej -- welcome to our thread. We need some more TTC ladies around here since, as the others were telling you, it doesn't seem to take us long to go from TTC to pregnant! I suppose we should stop saying that in case it puts too much pressure on Lan, Jo and Paula... don't worry, we'll still be here pulling for you even if it doesn't go BFP on the first try! :)

Jo - what kind of theme on the work party? Sounds fun! I think you should dress up like Elvis, no matter what the theme is. I dare ya! But since you asked, things are going okay for me. Kebab isn't kicking all day every day like I'd prefer, but the doppler helps me confirm that s/he is still ticking. Otherwise, I'm fighting a sinus infection that won't go away and the antibiotics are giving me a yeast infection. :redface: So Kebab is good, but the packaging around him/her seems to be slowly falling apart!

Rozzie, people are probably less likely to express support and grief about Edward now that you're pregnant again. But they're bad at it in the first place, I know. I'm not sure if there's much we can do about it, as it seems like our losses are felt so very deeply but are difficult to understand for outsiders -- even, in fact, ones who have had similar experiences. But my god, can we really be the next ones that are due? Things are really going quickly with these bellies. Try to hang in there over the next week or two as you pass the 22 week mark. I know you'll sail by it unscathed, but it won't be easy mentally. Enjoy those kicks!

Wooooooooooooooooooooohooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o, all the way home on the train tonight I was thinking about you Katie and just hoping I would walk in, turn the computer on and see the good news. Welcome gorgeous little Anna Francis. it sounds like you and DH are in newborn heaven. I guess we wont be seeing much of you in here from now on, you'll be up to your neck in nappies and feeding and all those other lovely things that you have waited so long to enjoy. Just the thought of you and DH cradling your beautiful daughter and taking in her sweet newborn scent brings tears of joy to my eyes. What a clever duck you are!!

hugs and kisses to baby Anna and don't forget to post some pics ASAP!!

Paula
xox

PS. Hi to everyone else. Am lurking this week with no time to post but am thinking of you all and especially looking forward to some Lan and Jo BFP's.

Thanks for the warm welcome!

You ladies have so much courage - it's so impressive...

Unfortunately, I'm in a bit of a waiting period. I just had a D&C last Tues (9 days ago). I think I just finished bleeding (TMI - sorry). So now it's the wait until AF arrives. In the meantime, I'll be doing acupuncture and trying to lose the few pounds I put on over the last month.

I can't wait to hear about more BFPs....

Welcome Buliej, you've landed in a great place. I never feel that courageous but I definitely think our courage comes from this group. So sorry to hear about your losses but glad that you are here on the ttc threat and contemplating a hopeful future. Good luck with the acupuncture and the weight loss. Im on a similar mission myself. Not sure if I'll be ttcing with Jo and Lan next month. First of all they will probably have BFP's by then and secondly I may not be quite ready to go health wise. If not though it will be a good opportunity to lose a few spare kg which I don't really need!

Keep in touch and lean on us if you need. I know this group saved my life in June when i lost my daughter so don't feel like you have to get through this alone. I look forward to getting to know you.

WELCOME TO THE WORLD ANNA! I can't wait to see some pictures of this tiny little girl.

Tildy, I wish I could take it one scan at a time and celebrate some milestones. I am just not that kind of person. I am always thinking and worrying about what is to come. My history gives me too much to worry about and it is almost impossible to expect a different outcome for this bub. I have a tiny bit of hope due to the heparin. I try to tell myself that every pregnancy is different.
There are a couple of ladies due before you. Michelle71's little *Edna* is due in a few weeks. ButterflyWarrior is also due in a couple of months. The pregnancy thread has been extra quiet for months so I haven't chatted with them in a long time.

Buliej, Welcome. I am very sorry to hear about your loss. I am glad to hear that your bleeding has stopped so soon. After I had a D&E it took 2 months. I was also pregnant again within 3 months.

Rozzie, I will be thinking of you over the next week. Keep yourself busy.
I understand how you are feeling. Sometimes the way people talk about Parker and Shelby blows my mind. They say such insensitive things that they feel will help me if they talk about them at all. After I lost Parker my dear friend who has experienced a loss herself told me that it wasn't good timing for a baby anyway. We would be ready the next time I got pregnant. We were just buying a house because my husband started a new job. I find myself avoiding people all together now. I pretty much alienated/isolated myself from everyone. I hope bringing home a healthy little bub will help me get past everyone's shortcomings in the support department.

Lan, I have to go back to some of the same ultrasound places. I wanted to keep my doctor so I will have to have more done in his office. I will also have to go back to the high risk office where I had all of my scans with Shelby. I really don't think the room makes much of a difference to me. They are horrible no matter where I am. I will never go back to the place where I found out about Parker. The woman was rude and insensitive. She just wanted to get rid of me so she could do her next appt. I wish that I could take some BB ladies with me for that 17 week scan.

I think that is a good idea. I am going to have to find some projects to fill my time. The fact that I work from home makes my days a bit long. The holidays have been speeding up time. I have started shopping which keeps me busy on the weekends.

Jo, I don't know why but I thought your testing day would be sooner. My scan is on the 5th, I hope we both get good news.

Parker's EDD is Dec.3rd. I want to do something to remember him on what should be his first birthday. It should help me stay busy and not think about my upcoming scan.

Hi ladies, my name is Diana and I've been a lurker on your thread for a few months now. I wanted to join you so many times but felt that I didn't want to intrude as you all seemed to have formed amazing relationships and have gotten to know each other so well. I read your posts almost every day and just want to say I am very sorry for your losses and the suffering you have all endured and congratulations to the ladies that are now pregnant again! So fabulous!! Today I just had to post as I'm also so happy for Katie! CONGRATULATIONS, such wonderful, exciting and inspirational news. Welcome to the world beautiful little girl.

So I hope you don't mind me joining in. To tell you a little about myself I suffered a late loss in July due to an incompetent cervix and lost my little boy Sebastian - I am still deeply sad and yearn for him each day but BB has helped me so much that I really don't know where I'd be today if it weren't for the amazing, encouraging, sympathetic ladies on this forum.

I had some major complications after his birth with an acute infection which required 7 weeks of anitbiotics and 2 D&Cs to clear retained placenta products. I won't go on with too much detail (my story is "sad and new" in the loss section) but we are now on the TTC journey again... "Calling all Clomid experts" is one of my threads too and the thread is just below this one.

Briefly, DH and I are now seeing a FS now because of the complications I had and since the loss my cycles have been utterly off the planet. I ovulated regularly on my own before but now I'm not so sure as my cycles are anywhere from 40-45 days. My FS put me on 50mg of Clomid to try help regulate my cycle and I ovulated this month so fingers crossed :pray:

I'm looking forward to getting to know you all a little better and supporting each other on our journey.

Oh hugs for Rozzie, Jo and Laney for the scary anniversaries/milestones coming up. Thinking about what you're about to face gives me chills. You're not alone.

Rozzie, you can have a potrait of Edward. The artist does make adjustments. Hamish was very, very red but she made him newborn colour. She also gave him some hair and eyebrows because of course he wasn't old enough to have any. Another mum who recommended her to me told me that her baby had his mouth open but she asked the artist to draw him with his mouth closed and she did a wonderful job. I hope you don't mind me asking, but Edward's eyes were opened? Hamish's were still fused shut. One of my many, many, many regrets is that we never got to see his eyes.

Paula, I'm not a first-striker so I'm pretty sure we'll be TTC-ing together. Is the progesterone cream making any changes to you? Is it uncomfortable?

Crap, it's 9.50am and I've done no work. Best go. Catch up you guys later. Love and kisses to you all!

DD0207, you are very welcome to join us in here, after all we kinda need some TTCers! We are resembling more the preg thread at the moment! I hope your journey is as swift as most of ours have been, and that we all get to bring home our baby's just like Katie.

I have a question for Sue or anyone that knows about IVF, I have just received a text from my cousin, she went in this morning to have a scan to see how many eggs she had produced but her text says it didn't work and they have cancelled the cycle. She is too upset to talk about it right now, but I am just wondering whether she would have any eggs at all? And would she still ovulate naturally if that was the case? I guess I am just clutching at straws and hoping there is still a chance for her.

Thanks for the welcome - yes it does seem like a pregnancy thread - I'm hoping there is a pattern here and it brings me loads of luck!!

Sorry, I don't know much about IVF but I wish your cousin the best of luck.

Good morning Ladies,

Hoping you are all well.

Katie - I am still so excited about the arrival of baby Anna. So looking forward to seeing some pictures.

Laney - I am so scared of ultrasounds also. Each time for one of my losses, this is how it is found. But I am getting better. For my next scan on 19 Dec, the day before I see my Ob and I will make sure he uses the doppler machine to check for heartbeat and then I am sure I will feel better after that. Do something special on the 5th, go spoil yourselves for Parkers EDD.

Helen - Good luck for your scan on Monday. Look forward to hearing your exciting news. :dance: With IVF, it could be, but I am guessing is that they may have over stimulated her overies and she is producing too many eggs and need to stop the process as this could be quite dangerous. This never happened to me, but I have heard of others that this has happened to.

buliej - Even though you arent TTC at the moment, you are still welcome to join us and ask any questions. Good Luck with your weight loss and acupuncture.

Rozzie - Great to hear that bubba is kicking. 22 weeks - how that has flown, but it is understandable that you are feeling nervous, just take it a day at a time and try to keep busy and spoil yourself.

Hammi - an absolutely gorgeous picture of Hamish. I totally loved the idea and think it is a beautiful reminder of your little boy.

Paula - Good luck in TTC and also weight loss. I have put on so much weight from being on clomid, IVF etc and it is a real concern for me, now being pregnant. But luckily I don't seem to be putting on a huge amount of weight and the Ob doesnt seem concerned. Now with the special GD diet, I probably will put on the minimum.

Tildy - I would love to buy a doppler, but am so scared to. Though I am lucky that my GP says to come in any time I need reassurance. GD - well I knew I was going to get it, but I didnt think so soon. Though my Ob yesterday said it was good they have picked it up so early and that I can start looking after myself now. I am also midly obese, but also have PCOS with Insulin Resistance (which doesnt help). How is the sinus and yeast infection going??? you poor thing....

Diana - Welcome to the TTC thread - I am so sorry to hear of your loss of Sebastian, I wish you all the best in your TTC Journey. I have been on clomid also, but I did ovulate pretty regular every month, but my FS was trying to give me a better chance of pregnancy (unfortunately didnt work), but it did bring me to ovulate earlier..

Well with me, I went to the Ob yesterday and all is still going well. Didnt have a ultrasound, but he did use the doppler and said the baby was kicking away and could hear the heartbeat (which made me feel better, especially after stickybabys story).

I also found out at work, that I get 8 weeks paid maternity leave :dance: which is an added bonus. I have worked at the same company for over 23 years, so I am hoping that they will be nice and flexible for me.

Sorry for the long posting, and hoping everyone is well.

xxx Sue xxx

HI dd0207 - I'm like you - I lurked and was so impressed with this group's strength and support - and then was overjoyed to read Katie's post that I had to make myself known. I hope you are right and this group's luck will rub off on us.

hgirs - re: IVF - there's really not enough info in the text to tell what happened. but it may be that your cousin only produced 1 or 2 eggs and either the FS decided (or decided together with your cousin) that it wasn't worth going forward with the retrieval or that she had OHSS. What you can't know from the text is whether it was indeed the foregoing situation or whether she actually produced no eggs. There's so many factors - age, PCOS, etc. that may have an impact on the decision. I spend all my time looking at the age factor!

Sue - glad things are going well - that's wonderful news.

I have found bellybelly so helpful - there's many, many threads on IVF - you might want to suggest to her that she take a look when she's ready.

Dear Buliej,

I understand how you feel about the age factor, as that has been bought up many times with me.

Though when my FS checked my egg supply, I had plentiful (when I did IVF) and really didnt have any problems with fertilisation etc in IVF. I think many of my problems is to do with my hormone levels (eg sugar etc), which is causing the problems. When I increased my dosage of metformin, I fell instantly pregnant - maybe this has something to do with it.

Also with this bubs, my Ob talked to me about having NT Scan (downs, trisomy test etc) and I think he was leaning towards me not having this testing, as because of my age, I have a good chance of have a "high" risk result. Well I got the complete opposite, my results were fantastic for may age and my bloods bought up the result so much, that I am way above the "low" risk for downs, trisomy etc.

So yes age does increase certain factors, but I think it also depends on the person and their make up....

xxx Sue xxx

hi everyone..
Congratulations katie your little girl anna will bring you so much joy.

Sue, thanks for the warm welcome and congratulations on the great NT result! You must be over the moon.

Buliej, it think it's going to be hard for us to keep up for a while but we'll get there!

To all you other lovely ladies, I will keep reading your posts to familiarise myself with your situations so please bear with me... I'm certain I'll catch up soon!