Trying to Conceive after Stillbirth/Late Loss/Recurrant Miscarriage October

Rozzie, thinking of you and sending you a big cyber hug!

Rozzie hugs hugs for today.:hug:

Big hugs to Rozzie. I hope little one in there gives you lots of extra reassuring kicks and Edward holds your hand.

Rozzie, thinking of you today....


:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:

xxx Sue xxx

YAY Helen, so glad your OB was obliging, great news. :)

Paula, so glad you?re feeling better now. Can you ask your OB if it?s ok to start trying this month? Yes, this is a very hard time of year for us and it would be absolutely heart warming if we could get a few BFPs in here before Christmas. Get the gift you?re thinking of. I?m sure Ethan would love it and most kids amuse themselves anyway.

Hi to everyone else!

Hi Rozzie, thinking of you today and sending you the biggest hug I can muster up. I hope you get through the day ok and little one sends you lots of kick hugs to comfort you. :hug:

Diana xx

Hi Rozzie - thinking of you today. Milestones can be very difficult and emotional. I hope Bubs gives you lots of kicks all throughout the day. :hug:

I have posted a photo of Anna in the gallery - I hope the link works.
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...00&ppuser=8726

Katie - Anna is beautiful!

Katie she is beautiful!!!!!!! What more can I say!

rozzie - hoping today has been ok for you! sending you love and hugs!!! xxx

awwwwww just so gorgeous. katie you should be so proud.

Rozzie, I hope yesterday went as well as it could have.

Katie, Anna is beautiful. I hope you keep posting updated photos.

Jo, have you taken a test yet? I know that you have a few days before AF is due but I usually have early positives. All except this pregnancy tested + 5 days before AF was due. I can't wait to hear the news.


My ultrasound went good. The edge of the placenta is right at my cervix. It could be causing the on and off bleeding. It looks like it is up high enough that it shouldn't be a problem in the future. The baby is measuring almost a week older than the first scan at 6 weeks and a couple days farther along than my 8 week scan. I guess that I am closer to 12 weeks now. So no signs of a problem there. I have had a problem with large functioning cysts on my ovaries in my other pregnancies and there isn't any at all this time around. It was nice to see a wiggly little baby not a tiny still seahorse.

Oh Katie she is absolutely gorgeous...:hug:

Rozzie - was thinking of you yesterday. Hope your day went OK.

Laney - yah for the good scan. You must feel so relieved and I bet you had a good night sleep.

Will be back later for more personals.

Love to you all.

xxx Sue xxx

ooooooooooooooooh thank you Katie, Anna is such a cutie. She looks so content and happy. You must be so in love with her!

Laney, I had no idea you had a scan coming up, or if I did I completely forgot. How wonderful that it all went well and at least you have some explanation for the bleeding to which is a relief. Roll on 12 week I say!!

Hi to everyone else. Jo?? Lan?? Don't keep us in suspense. Little Anna has used up all my suspense tolerance so I have none left for you 2 !!

Hello,

Fantastic news on the U/S Laney, you must be relieved to see that little baby moving happily!

Katie, I am quite new here, but did follow your story towards the end of your pregnancy, such great news, congratulations on the birth of Anna, she is a beautiful little bundle.

Paula, have you had the ok to start TTC yet? We are thinking of trying from Jan. I have an OB appointment on Tuesday to check that my body has recovered and that we are ok to start trying when we're ready. We also have a geneticist appointment on Thursday to rule out that there is a genetic problem with DH & me, I think this is highly unlikely from initial discussions with OB & geneticist but definetly worth being sure. My OB has been in the game for 25 yrs & said he sees problems like ours once every 5-7 yrs, he thinks it was a random event or 'bad luck'.

Rozzie, how are you going, hope you are doing ok & that baby of yours is kicking away.

Have a great weekend everyone.
Megan (Berry)

Oh my goodness, I just looked at baby Anna. Cluck, cluck, cluck!

Paula, I'll be able to test in 1.5 week's time but I've maintained my crazy lady status and decided that I'm pregnant. I've kind of felt little tugs around the lower ab area which I remember feeling with Hamish. We shall see anyway!

What about you Jo? Any signs?

Rozzie, I hope you're doing OK this weekend and that you're able to get away from everybody. Next Tues is a whole new phase, only three more sleeps.

Laney, congrats on your scan. Now I can see the bub in your u/s pic. How exciting that you can watch his/her development so closely.


Hi to all :-)

Lan, if you think your PG then so do I, lets start a rumour, it will keep us busy for the next 1.5 weeks!!

Laney, I actually got the ok to start ttc in late August but then I had these thyroid/progesterone issues come up. We had already decided to wait till the end of the year anyway and thought it was a good idea to get all that right first. I'm glad I did because the more I find out about low progesterone, the more convinced I am that it has caused a lot, if not all, of my problems. My OB is completely unaware that this is all going on and I'm not sure how into it he would be. It sounds like an almost alternative treatment. My progesterone tested within the normal range but at the very low end. The real proof for me has been the last week where I would normally have shocking pms. Instead I have felt completely normal all week.

DH teases me because I have basically diagnosed myself (with the help of Dr Google) and had to use 2 GP's and a naturopath to get to the answer. Even then, they all turned out wrong! It just goes to show that we know our own bodies better than anyone else. DH is also amazed at this last week and cannot believe the difference. Here's hoping it continues.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Paula

oh I almost forgot...

I'm not sure what you are all planning on doing for your angels at x-mas but I thought I would share my idea. Ethan asked me the other night if Santa would know where to find Charlie so that she could get a present at x-mas so I suggested to him (whilst holding back tears) that we could go and buy a present for Charlie. He got so excited and started realing off all these girly things that we could get her. He then wanted to know how we could get the presents up in the sky to her. I told him we could wrap it and take it to a special tree (the K-mart wishing tree) and leave it there. I told him that it was the Angel's magic wishing tree and that Santa came there specially to pick up presents for all the angels. He was pretty chuffed, DH and I felt good that we were doing something and of course we are helping another little girl somewhere have a happier x-mas.

I have that feeling Jo talked about when she got her urns. I feel good about doing something but super sad that I had to. I expect this knot i've had in my stomach since the x-mas season began is not going to go away anytime soon. Lets hope that next xmas we are all celebrating with miracle earth babies so that the pain is not quite so intense.

Katie, it's a lovely picture of Anna! She may be a drama queen, but in the picture she looks so calm and just so sweet.

Laney, it sounds like things went great at your scan. I can absolutely believe that the low-lying placenta caused the bleeding. After all four of the big bleeds I had in the first 13 weeks I had a scan, and the first two (weeks 8, 9) showed a placenta that was fully covering the cervical os, and the next two (week 11, 13), where large clots came out too, each showed a low-lying placenta, the first time it was right up next to the opening and the next time it was 1/2 cm away. The high-risk OB said it can definitely cause non-dangerous bleeding as long as it's within 1-2 cm. But I haven't had any bleeding since 13+0, and of course by the morphology scan the placenta had moved up and requried no further concern. So I think your low-lying placenta might be causing some blood, and I'm sure they've also told you that it's not really dangerous and that in the vast majority of cases it moves itself up before the birth. :hug:

Rozzie -- my thoughts are with you and Alec this weekend.

I'm still battling with my sinuses, and have been waking up after 4 hours of sleep every night without being able to get back to sleep, so I'm so worn out. This weekend might mostly be spent in bed. Right now, I need a kleenex and some breakfast... back to you later.

hi girls!
just needed some cheer -its Jacks 1 year angelversary tomorrow (:crying:) and i will wake up to take a picture of his sunrise over the lake to put in his scrapbook...my heart is my stomach right now...and i have to work tomorrow...
please if you have a moment think of my little man and his sweet little button nose! i wish he was here...
xx

Hi Ladies,

Jo, I will be thinking of you tomorrow. Are you and your family going to do anything as a group to remember him? I hope Jack sends you a BFP.



It should be Parker's first birthday on Wednesday. I am going to visit my family. They will keep me really busy so I don't have time to break down.

My sister is getting married on Tuesday. They told me about it last week. It is just going to be an informal small gathering. Her boyfriend is going to Iraq in a couple of weeks and she is pregnant so they decided it was time.

Happy angel birthday baby Jack! It's a lovely sunny morning in Sydney and outside it's still peacefully quiet. I hope you are safe, warm and happy where you are now and that you give your mummy the biggest hug today.

Jo, it's OK to totally lose it today. After all, what can be said or done to console a mother, and a family, on an anniversary like this? Hugging you tight.

Also hugging Rozzie and wishing that Tuesday will come quickly for you, starting with a huge kick from your bub.

And Laney, hugging you too for Wed and like you said to Jo, I hope Parker and Shelby and the little angel bean bring this little baby you're carrying safely into your arms next year.

My heart is so full with all your sadness :-(

Jo - I'm sending you some warm thoughts

Laney - I will be thinking of you on Wed

Dear Jo,

Thinking of you today and thinking of your angel Jack.

I think we need a big group hug in rememberance of all our little angels :grouphug:

xxx Sue xxx

Jo thinking of you on such a sad day. I love your photo idea. You always think of such lovely ways to remember your angels. You really are a wonderful mum. I tell Ethan that only very special families are chosen to make angels and you and your family are living proof of that. Hopefully all our Angels are up there having a blast at Jack's birthday party. Take care of yourself today.

love
Paula

Jo what a beautiful thing to do, I am shedding many tears for you right now and holding you tight in my thoughts. Happy birthday Jack, I know you are somewhere safe, warm and happy, free from any troubles.
Laney I will be thinking of you to in the days to come, it is always so hard to know what to do at these times, keep busy or fall in a heap?? Let the day take you on it's own journey, thankfully you will have people who care deeply for you to support you.
:comfort: for you both and :grouphug: for us all.

this may be good for a chuckle. I never could never figure out hgirs' ticker - I thought it was a close up of a belly button piercing or something...Until today! I now see the little fetus!

I needed that chuckle! It is starting to look better now!

Jo - thinking of you and Jack today. I will light my candle for you both. I hope you are doing okay and have plenty of support around you. :hug:

Katie, Anna is such a cutiepie, I bet you stare at her while she's sleeping!!! Just gorgeous.

Jo, I hope your day remembering Jack was as nice as it could be, the sunrise picture sounds lovely.

Laney, I hope Wednesday goes well for you... there are a few of us dealing with difficult anniversaries at the moment aren't there? I hope your family keep you busy and are supportive.

Tildy, hope you're feeling better and didn't have to spend your entire weekend in bed... though it is nice to lie in bed, enjoying the quiet and feeling the kicks isn't it?

Sending sticky vibes to all our ladies hoping for BFPs soon...

Thankyou all so much for wishes and thoughts over this weekend, it's so lovely to know that other people are thinking of you, especially when people in my life don't seem to understand the significance. Friday went ok, baby kicked lots and I was fairly busy with things at work so that was OK. When Alec got home though the weirdest thing set me off though, he'd asked for a leave history printout from his boss. The printout was a handwritten note from his bosses mother who handles the accounting (and does a shocking job) and said he had two weeks leave 'when Roslyn had her miscarriage'. This was disquieting for me, I know that all miscarriages are devastating and I fear them, but it's not like I had an early one... I held my baby and had to have major surgery, and for some reason it bothers me that this isn't recognised. Another guy at work only just noticed I was pregnant (???) and asked how far I was... I said 22 weeks and he said well that's a lot further than last time, and I said no, actually it's the same! And my boss asked me if I was up to the stage of feeling movement, and I said yes, for about 6 weeks. It irks me that people seem to see it Edward's loss as a somewhat normal miscarriage, when I don't see it that way obviously.

Anyway, yesterday of all days the baby decided to have a quiet day, naughty thing!!! Luckily I had my doppler on hand, I got it out twice! Bub is a bit more active today thankfully. I think I'm getting a cold now, which is just not what I need.

Anyway, thanks again for supporting me and indulging my rambling. I feel more confident in this pregnancy, and another all clear at the scan on Wednesday will help as well.

Love Rozzie

Jo - I hope you are ok and are able to take the time out from work to remember Jack. You and I have come so far since we first met around this time last year. Thank you for all the support you have given and I hope you have found the same in return. I know you miss Jack like mad, and it will also bring up emotions attached to Madison - be kind to yourself and let your tears flow whenever they need to.

Laney - I will be thinking of you on Wednesday as you remember Parker on his first birthday.

Wednesday is also Nathaniel's angelversary. I can't believe it was a year ago that my whole world shattered. It is hard to explain, but having Anna has made me realise even more how much I miss my little boy. I find myself holding her and bursting into tears. DH is being very supportive and giving me lots of hugs. My counsellor did warn me that Anna's arrival may bring up emotions and it certainly has. I just wish more than anything that I could have both my babies, but I know at least that we have a special angel watching over us. When Anna is on the change table she oftens looks at the same corner and smiles even though there is nothing there, so I like to think that is where Nathaniel sits to watch over her.

Rozzie- I understand how you feel about seeing 'miscarriage' written for Edward. I didn't give birth to Nathaniel (had to have a D&C) but at times it bothers me that he described as a missed miscarriage. I carried him for 20 weeks, and I had all the hopes and dreams of any first time mother. It is hard when you get to the same gestation as your last baby, but know that you have a strong one and enjoy every kick and flutter. :hug:

Group hug everyone - I think we need it :grouphug:

Hi to all the lovely ladies,

Jo - Was thinking of you on Sunday. Hope you went OK at work?

Paula - I am so glad you are looking after yourself and I agree, we know our bodies better than an Dr of specialist. I have my fingers crossed for a BFP for you soon. I have to say, what a gorgeous idea you have to remember our angels.... at my work we have a tree set up for the salvation army and also the rspca for gifts and donations. I feel it is such a wonderful idea to make children/animals a special christmas.

Helen - How are you????

Lan - Fingers crossed for a BFP this month. What a fantastic Christmas pressie.

Cindee - Hoping you are well.

Tildy - How are you feeling?? Did the weekend in bed do you well???

Laney - :hug: for you on Wednesday for Palmers 1st Birthday.

Katie - What an emotion time for you. :hug: for you as well for Nathaniels Anniversary.

Rozzie - :wall: for all those unthoughtful people. I am so sorry yo had to endure that. Enjoy your kicks and remember your angel Edward.

Big hellos to Beryl, Buliej and Diana, hoping you are all doing well.

Well with me, nothing to report, have been feeling a little more movement, but still hanging on to the 20 week scan. I can't wait until I feel proper movement.... I am still scared about losing bubs and am seeing my GP next Monday to get a reassurance check and hear bubs heartbeat.

Hope you all have a good day.

xxx Sue xxx

Sue - the waiting must be horrible. Glad you are going in to see your GP for a reassurance check.

Hi everybody, haven't been on in a really long time (got discouraged, to make a long story short), but I just got a bfp last thursday! So of course, I'm happy and scared. Been to the fs twice for hcg levels and so far so good! (please God)

Katiegirl: congratulations on your Anna, keeping you in my prayers and sending a big cyberhug because there are so many painful emotions for you right now

sryan--keeping fingers crossed!!

Forgot to say, Paula, the gift tree is a fantatic idea. DH and I will do that too. I must stop thinking things and actually do them.

Congrats Tempus on your BFP. Sticky sticky sticky vibes.

Thanks for your suppot buliej, it just seem so long in between scans!!!

tempus moriendi Congratulations on your BFP :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

xxx Sue xxx

Jo, thinking of you and hope you're doing ok :hug:
Laney, :hug:to you for Wednesday. I hope you?re family give you lots of love and support.

Katie, look up into that corner with Anna on Wednesday and smile together... Will be thinking of you on a terribly hard and emotional day :hug:

Tildy, hope you enjoyed the weekend relaxing and that you're feeling better.

Rozzie, I completely understand how you feel about people not recognising what we've lost and how hard and emotional it is for us everyday. I am so glad we have each other to lean on during these times, otherwise I'd go insane and fight with everyone in my family :wall: They all think I should be over it by now and concentrating on the next one - "the next one" that's how they put it!!:o I just want to scream and hit them really hard. I hope you're doing ok and baby is kicking away happily.

Sue, the waiting must be hard but tell baby to keep up with those kicks! So happy you're feeling more movement, very exciting.

Helen, incase we don't hear from you, best of luck for the procedure on Wednesday. Will be there holding your hand.

Paula, hope you're well. Loved your story, it brought tears to my eyes. Ethan seems like such a loving and beautiful little boy who adores his sister.

Tempus moriendi congratulations on your BFP!

AFM, started my FSH injections last night so lets hope I get a BFP for Xmas too?:pray:

I have to tell you a funny story... my DH thinks that when I talk about him on here using these initials, that I'm calling him a D*ck Head :D It took quite a bit of convincing to explain it means Dear Husband...

Big hugs to everyone else :grouphug:

Hi Girls,

Laney, Jo & Katie, thinking of you at these difficult anniversary's, it's great that you have all been able to support each other for such a long time on here.

Congratulations Tempus on the BFP, that's very exciting news!

Sue, I am sure the check-up will reassure you that everything is fine. Paula, I agree with the others, the gift idea is a lovely thing to do at Christmas in our Angel's memory.

Diana, the DH thing cracked me up, your poor husband must think we all call our DH's that!

Well for me I have my OB check-up tomorrow and seeing the genticist on Thursday. Hoping DH & I get some reassurance that it is ok to TTC in Jan.

Take care
Megan

It's convenient for others to think that we will be healed once we have a breathing newborn in our arms. But we all know we will never "get over" the loss of our precious babies.

Rozzie, I hate it when people call Hamish a miscarriage too. They don't understand how developed our babies are even in the 2nd trimester and more importantly how much we bond with them and love them and know them even in that short time. Only one more sleep for you then tomorrow is a whole new world.

Katie, I have heard it said that babies and children are much more intuitive than we are and can see angels and spirits that we can't. It's a beautiful image to think of Anna smiling at her brother. I didn't even know that newborns could smile but I got goosebumps all up and down my arms just picturing that. You are a wonderful mummy who has gone through so much to bring Anna into this world. Nathaniel knows how much you love him and miss him. He's with you with every breath that you take.

Jo, did you get through Sunday OK? How was the sunrise? How did Em and Josh take it? Did DH understand the significance of what you felt?

Laney, you have had a such a hard, hard time since Parker's birth. I hope with all my heart that this bub is the one and look forward to hearing about your next scan when the wiggly baby will be much more limby :-) Hugs for Wed.

Diana and Berry, I just noticed that you're both in Sydney. So am I. Catch up? Rozzie is the only one I've met face-to-face and it was just like seeing an old friend.

Paula, all my therapists did say to me that our periods aren't supposed to cause any pain or discomfort or feral feelings and PMS is an indication of hormonal imbalance. It seems that you've sorted that all out. You're going to get a BFP in Jan!!! And I love your rumour. I'm going to stick with it and humour myself that I'm pregnant. I think I'll test on the 15th if AF hasn't shown up by then.

Sue, your ticker is zooming. I hope it zooms even faster to the morph scan so you can relax even more. Already you are in new territory though. Your baby is indeed a miracle, I think of him/her when I"m feeling particularly discouraged because I always remember how you said you can't get pregnant naturally and look where you are now.

Hugs and love to all.

dd0207--best of luck, keeping fingers crossed!
lol when you said what your husband thought "dh" stood for!!!

Berry1--keeping fingers crossed for you, too. Let us know how it all works out.

Hammi--you are so right--unless you've been through obstetric loss, you just don't "get it". My best real life support system consists of my friends who have been through obstetric loss, too. And heaven knows, it's not something you would wish anybody to understand through experience.