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thread: TTC AFTER Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage/ Stillbirth

  1. #19
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    Nov 2007
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    hi girls sorry that i have been missing but a lot has been going on this will be a short post as i am still trying to get my head around that my husband has left me. I have moved home with my parents for the moment but i am hoping that with time we may be able to make things work out. I will try and catch up with everyone in the coming days.

  2. #20
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    Dee, I am so sorry to hear that hun, I just want to give you a big hug I can't imagine what you must be going through. You both have been through so much with losing Chloe and the stress of IVF and they are just the things that we know about. I really hope that you work things out as well. Hopefully you are able to see a councillor together when the time is right. Know that we are all here for you no matter what you are going through. Thinking of you hun & take care of yourself

    Cheryl, good for you for starting exercising and eating better. Sorry to hear that AF still hasn't shown her face. Are you going to start the extra strong herbies soon? Sounds like you are getting good 'medical' advise.

    Hi TM, great to hear from you hun. Sorry to hear that you are still on the ttc train, but since you are, come and join us in here, its been so quiet lately, would be nice to have more company, but hope your journey is short at the same time

    Hi Beata, hope you are well and that you can pinpint O in preparation for the big tranfer next month, can you believe it!

    I'm just waiting for my AP appointment now. Feeling a bit down about everything the last few days, but hanging in there as there is nothing more I can do and there is still a lot for me to be grateful for

    Dee, you are in my thoughts & prayers hun

  3. #21
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    Hi lovely girls,

    Dee, noooooo!!!!!!! Oh hun, I am so sorry you're going through this difficult time. I really hope & pray everything works out for you hun. Just know that I'm thinking of you and I'm reaching across the computer screen to give the biggest hug possible ! Chin up hun, we're always here for you .

    Cheryl, I'm gald that you've got some positive goals to focus on, I know exercise and eating well can't hurt, lol! I've been very slack in both departments You have made some excellent progress hun, keep it up and you'll get your much wanted BFP sooner than you think!! Big hugs hun.

    Megan, so looking forward to your post after you have your AP app. on Friday. I am hearing more and more about how beneficial AP is with fertility and particularly IVF. Hang in there hun, the journey will be so worth it in the end when you see those two lovely lines on that pee stick!!!!!
    Well, the ovulation test confirmed O today, so I must be ovulating soon (they say in the next 24-36 hours). At least I know I 'O' on day 17. How's that?????!!!! All this time I was going for gold between day 13 and 15 ...

    Tempus moriendi, welcome back!! Good luck in your TTC journey hun, I hope to hear some exciting news from you soon!!!

    Bec, how is that horrible cold weather??!! I don't think it can get any colder than this. They say it might snow up in the Dandenongs tonight! Grrrrrrrr!!!! Extra blankies for me tonight..

    Teagz & Nae, hello there! I hope all is well with you lovely ladies xxx

    Diana, big hugs sweetie, hang on and chin up, I'm always thinking of you xxx

    AFM, apart from pinpointing my O, yeepee!!! my DF still hasn't got back his police check thingie which we need in order to proceed with the next IVF cycle (this is compulsory from 1 July). I am a bit worried. I got mine back pretty quickly, but my DF has a very common name and apparently there are a lot of people with his name in Australia, and because they have to check each state, it's taking longer. I'm praying this thing will come in the post soon, as we might miss our cycle otherwise

    Big hello to everyone I missed

    Love and hugs
    Beata xxx

  4. #22
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    Beata, so interesting that you thought you O'ed on day 13-15 & its confirmed as being day 17. Hope you and DH are going for gold now you never know. I think a lot of people must do that, think they O within a particular time frame and get it wrong. I have a great book by Zita West (she is like a naturopath I guess, specialises in helping women get pg & preparing those for IVF who need to go down that road) who says that a lot of women she sees make incorrect assumptions about when they O, its quite common. I didn't know much at all until I read her book. I guess trying to get pg can be much more complicated that you would first think. I hope DH's police check comes through soon, don't they know there's a little bubba waiting!

    I will certainly let you know about the AP. I have read lots of great things about it too!

  5. #23
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    Hi ladies

    Dee - that's terrible news. I hope you're holding up ok. Hopefully your parents will be able to offer you the support you need right now. Take care of yourself and know that we are here to lend a supportive ear if you need one

    Beata - that's great news about your O day. Mine seems to fluctuate by a day or two sometimes and I haven't had much luck with OPK but I might start using them again, once I get a regular cycle again that is! And I hope your DH gets his check through ASAP.

    Megan - hope your AP session went well today. Can't wait to hear what you thought about it.

    Hi TM. I don't think we've met. But am glad to have another person to chat with in here. I hope you get to do something special for yourself while your DH is away - maybe a massage!

    AFM - well CD41 and am now on the super herbs from my TCM. B/t results came back and not good - showed that my hormones are all over the place. Definitely didn't ovulate this month with Prog level of 0.4! FSH is higher than we would like - like double what it was 12 months ago. But TCM thinks that it is probably because of the physical and emotional stress my body has been through these last few months. Will test again next cycle on CD3 to see what's going on. Now I am hoping and praying for AF to arrive. At least my hot flashes seem to have disappeared - yay! Also, have been researching a lot and have got DH and I on some supplements that have been recommended by a book I've been reading by Dr Marilyn Glenville from the UK. Also am starting her eating plan for both of us, which isn't too bad, but definitely no caffiene or alcohol, and an emphasis on whole organic foods. She has had a lot of success with it so am hoping that we might too. If nothing else we will be healthier and slimmer for it by the end of the 3 months.

    Anyway, must go and cook dinner. Take care all.
    xo

  6. #24
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    Dee, I hope you are doing ok hun. I really feel for you

    Cheryl, it makes sense that your cycle would be all over the place still, from stress and hormones. I hope AF arrives for you soon as well. Some of what I say about my AP below may resonate with you?

    Beata & TM, hope you girls are both well.

    AFM, had the AP just now. Overall, what she had to say was quite interesting, said that it was 'normal' for my cycle to be 'different' after going through a loss, said that pg itself takes a lot out of the body and that what I went through is emotionally & physcially traumatic and that it takes the body a while to heal properly, and that since it happenned only 6-mths ago, my body is still going through that process. She talked about the importance of getting the body 'tuned' again and that the emotional side was just as important and how that is it also important for the next baby. I have poor circulation and she thought I looked too pale and a little enemic (spl?) so recommended Iron tablets. She said that this can cause the fetus not to get 'enough' food (more so the circulation causing this as blood won't flow well to the baby. I'll have to read more about that.

    The needles didn't hurt, just a ***** and I could feel them there, but certainly not 'painful'. She said that generally women she sees (with similar symptoms to mine, not neccessarily loss though) fall pg within about 3-6 mths (potentially sooner), but obviously everyone is different. she said a lot of interesting things about my general health as well. All in all, I think it was definetly worth a try. I am going back next Wed. Fingers crossed this helps, if anything else, it will help my general health so that can't be a bad thing.

    Babydust to you all and have a wonderful relaxed weekend.

  7. #25
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    May 2009
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    Hi all, finally some time to myself. DH has taken DD up to the milkbar to get milk. It only took them almost an hour to get organised to go! He lets her fluff around. At least I don't have to get her dressed today

    Beata, it is freezing isn't it? Not sure what I'm going to do today. Too cold for watching DH umpire but I hate being home with just DD on the weekends at the moment.
    Hope your DH's police check comes through in time. Must be hard waiting since you can't do anything about it!

    Cheryl, I hope AF sorts herself out soon. Good for you about the eating plan. I think it will really help. I've been eating obscenely well since Luca died to try and avoid the same complications in another pregnancy. It hasn't helped me get pregnant yet and I'll have to wait a long time to find out it it helps avoid the complications, but it's at least something we have control over and it's so great to be doing something positive. About the motivation to exercise, it is totally understandable that you are struggling. Grief is exhausting. I have no energy these days. I was doing orienteering (run for 40 minutes) once a week because it is scheduled IYKWIM. I never have the motivation to just go out for a run.

    Berry, sounds like the AP went well. Hope it helps very soon.

    Dee, I am heartbroken for you and have been thinking about you a lot. Hang onto hope.

    TM, it's so hard to miss a month on purpose but that sounds very very sensible. Hope to see you here next month if you want to chat.

    AFM, I'm spotting still. Expect AF tomorrow, but I always hope until she actually turns up. I feel like getting plastered if I'm not pg. I never drink to get drunk but I've been thinking that the last few days! Haven't had alcohol since I got pregnant with Luca this time last year so maybe I will have a drink.
    Went to a friend at work's maternity farewell afternoon tea yesterday. I'm on leave from work so I just popped in. I didn't break down in public thank goodness. It was really hard though. We have the same boss so when he was giving his farewell speech it was like de ja vu. He was giving mine in December. And I know he would have said much the same for me 'good luck with the birth. We're looking forward to seeing the baby. Enjoy your time off'. But the good luck didn't happen. I never got to show off my baby. And I haven't enjoyed my time off.

  8. #26
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    Nov 2007
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    thank you so much girls for your support i hope you dont mind me still being here chatting at this moment he has found someone else so i think that their isn't much hope of us being together but i will just keep the lines of communication open heres hoping maybe sometime some place love to you all you are all such a wonderful bunch of people

  9. #27
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    Dee, oh no that's terrible, I am so sorry hun that this is happening to you, you don't deserve this at all . I am sure it must have come as a huge shock to you. I hope that you are still getting a lot of support, are you still staying with your parents? Hun, I have to say that you deserve so much better, here you were just weeks ago trying to have a baby together! Please stay and chat in this thread for as long as you want to, it's here for support and I am sure I can speak for everyone when I say that we will be here to support you in anyway you need. Take good care of yourself and know that you are a brave and special women and deserve to be treated with love, respect and kindness .

  10. #28
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    Hi Girls,

    Dee, I'm so sorry you're going through all this heartache. You really don't deserve this on top of dealing with IVF, it must be so hard for you hun. Hang in there, and please don't go anywhere! You know that you'll get all our support here hun, please remember that we're always here for you. Big hugs

    Megan, I'm so glad your app. went well. I really feel this is the best course of action for you together with the TCM. I talked to my friend at work (the one that did IVF and got pg on her first go), and she said that she went to see the AP because her kidneys were playing up a while before she started the IVF cycle. Apparently the woman told her that if your kidneys aren't performing 100% while TTC, you have very little chance of falling pg. Well, she sorted her kidneys out and bang! she got pg. Maybe it was a coincidence but you never know...
    On the police check thingie, I rang the IVF nurse as I was worried it might not come in time for my cycle, but apparently they have moved out the date til September now so we're OK!

    Cheryl, I'm so sorry your cycle is so horrid ATM. But with a little time and patience, I'm sure it's going to regulate itself hun, hang in there & don't give up hun .

    Bec, I really hope AF stays away for you hun. But if it comes, have a few drinkies as it might be the last time you can have them, lol!! I pray for a BFP for you hun

    I'm not sure if Diana is going to be upset with me for letting you know, but she is in hospital ATM as she's been bleeding a bit lately and the doc ordered total bed rest for her. I'm sure you'll all join me in wishing her a speedy recovery and keep her in your thoughts and prayers. We're all thinking of you hun and hang in there sweets!!!!

    AFM, still plodding along, I DTD a few times around O time so technically I'm in the 2WW ATM. Not that I'm counting on a BFP but you never know..
    My doc told me one day that although we have a very small (teeny actually) chance of falling pg naturally, stanger things have happened in the past!!

    Big hello to all my beautiful friends and wishing everyone a lovely weekend

    Love and hugs

    Beata xxx

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    Dee, I'm so sorry. This is most defenately something you do not deserve or need right now. I'll be thinking of you chick, and remember we're all here to vent to when you need it

    Beata, thanks for letting us know about Diana, I hope everything will be ok. I'll be keeping her in my thoughts. That little bubba will be a fighter, just like his/her mummy!

    I hope you don't mind me checking up on you girls, i like seeing what you're all up to

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    Diana, I hope things are going ok hun and that the bleeding has stopped. Take care of yourself, I am thinking of you

    Beata, does that mean that your transfer has been pushed out until Sept, or that they don't require the paperwork until then and you are still doing the transfer in July? Interesting about your friend. I have read that in Chinese Medicine the 'kidney' is linked to fertility, when they say kidney, they refer to this not just the actual organ. Anyway, I don't know much about it yet, but it makes sense to me that our conceiving or difficulty of it can be related to imbalances in the body. I have read some great things about AP resulting in more positive results for those going through IVF. I hope you get your little miracle Beata before the transfer, wouldn't that be funny! I have heard of cases where the couple had one embie transfered and ended up pg with twins as they conceived one naturally at the same time

    Bec, I hope AF didn't arrive, but if she did no harm in enjoying a couple of wines, I do that when she arrives, I figure a couple of wines a month surely can't hurt! It must have been hard with your friend leaving work to have her baby. It is going to happen for you soon hun, hang in there.

    Cheryl, I hope the super herbies work and AF turns up soon so you can get on with making bubba. The eating plan sounds great, I really hope it works for you hun. I have a great book by Zita West who promotes similar thinking. All the best

    Hi Teagz, I hope you are doing well and looking after yourself and that little bubba. Please do keep popping in to let us know how you are going.

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    Hi Megan,

    We're still going ahead with the transfer next month, they've just moved out the date so people can get their forms ready I think...So still going agead and now I just can't stop having dreams about it. Lately I've been dreaming that I'm pregnant, I so hope they will come true hun!

    I came across a great thread in the pg with twins or more section, and it's so amazing how many women had one blastie transferred and ended up with twins!!! So you never know hun. They make you sign these forms at the IVF clinic that with a single embryo, you can end up with none, one, two, three or four babies! OMG. I would faint if they told me it was twins or triplets .

    Hope everyone had a great weekend, will do some persies later.

    Big hug to all

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    Hi Beata, that's a relief, I was concerned you had to wait until Sept! I hope your dreams are a positive sign I think I would faint it they put in one embie and said 'congratulations, there are four, WHAT! That must be incredibly rare, but must be possible if its on the form? I just hope you get one happy healthy baby with your next transfer and if there ends up being two, the more they merrier hey

    Have a great week girls

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    Hi girls
    I hope you don't mind me keeping an eye on you all...just wanted to say thanks to Beata for letting us know about Diana. I had sent her a PM and seen she hadn't posted for ages and was getting worried about her. Hope she is okay. I know all about how much bedrest in hospital sux so can you let her know that if she needs to chat or wants a visitor I am here?! I can PM you my mobile so just let me know if there is anything I can do.
    Good luck to all of you TTC and I hope to see lots of BFPs in here very soon!
    Dee, sorry to hear about your problems with your DH. Hang in there.
    Things are great with us - Kaitlyn is 2 months old now...time is just flying.
    Take care girls,
    Love Jo

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    Hi Girls,

    Megan, I would faint too if they said there is four! lol. I guess that would be very rare but it must be a chance! I would be over the moon if I ended up with one healthy bubbie

    Dee, I hope you're holding up OK hun. Sending you many hugs my love

    Diana, I'm really glad things are improving for you sweetheart, keep on going strong!

    Jo, thanks for you message hun and nice to hear from you! I'm glad things are going well with you and Kaitlyn.
    I told Diana I could give her your number if she wanted. Today she said that the bleeding has slowed right down and it's only a bit of spotting now. The doc said he'd like for her to stay in hospital for another week and then she might be able to go home. I really hope and pray she's able to go home soon

    Hi Bec, Cheryl, Teagz & TM, hope you're all doing well

    Well, nothing new to report from me girls, just counting down the 3 or so weeks until my transfer. Yay!

    Hi to everyone else out there, and big hugs to all

    & for all of us TTC!!!

    Love B xxx

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    Hi Girls,

    Beata, thanks for keeping us updated with how Diana is, glad to hear things are getting better. We are thinking of you Diana, I pray the bleeding has stopped and you get the ok to go home soon. Take good care of yourself

    Beata, 3-weeks and counting, not long at all. I will be sending up lots of prayers and sticky vibes for you

    Jo, good to hear from you. I can't believe Kaitlyn is 2-months old, has it been that long since you've been in here. Glad that everything is going well. Enjoy every minute of it.

    Dee, I hope you are doing ok hun.

    Hi to Cheryl, TM & Bec, I hope you all are well.

    AFM, really hoping this month is it. I see the AP again tomorrow. Thinking lots of sticky vibes & baby dust for all of us

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    Hi ladies,

    Megan, thanks so much for your prayers and wishes! It's really starting to sink in it's only 3 weeks to go. Very excited and nervous all at once. I really hope I get my BFP soon
    I so hope this is it for you too hun, I'm sending you all the sticky vibes in the universe and more!!! I'm praying very hard for your BFP very very soon

    Diana, I hope you're feeling much better now, hopefully not long for you to go until you can go home.

    Dee, thinking of you and sending you big hugs hun

    Hi to everyone else, and baby dust and sticky vibes to all TTC!

    B xxx

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