thread: TTC AFTER Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage/ Stillbirth Sept 2009

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  1. #1
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    Hey ladies - thanks for the words of support and encouragement. I am surprised at how much I need them. Today at least, I conquered the snake. lets see about tomorrow.

    You know, I have really tried to avoid thinking about the twins EDD, hard to believe its come around. So no plans except I am not working and neither is DH. Plan is to do something together. I was thinking of having a memorial service for Amelia, but I am not ready to organise it, so am going to wait. Lots of ideas spinning around but nothing stands out as something that is right. So, it just needs time.

    Gigi1 - thankyou so much sweetie. Big hugs back at you. When I feel sorry for myself I would like to think that multiple bereavement is really so much harder. It's harder in the sense there are more occasions that are significant and maybe more layers of emotion to process, thinking about my own experiences of my grief. But in reality, it's hard no matter what. For me probably the most significant aspect of multiple losses is that it is harder to feel hope, and not just in relation to pregnancy. After Amelia I remember thinking this can't possibly happen again, so despite my fear, when I was pregnant with the twins, I actually hoped it would work out ok, even when Nicholas miscarried but Sophie was still alive I had hope. It makes the next pregnancy that much harder, as hope is more distant. But, I wouldn't even be contemplating another pregnancy if I didn't think there was hope, nor if I wasn't prepared to risk the anguish of another loss. But then a long term TCC journey is I imagine just as harrowing, if not more so, especially one that involves loss. How can I compare my loss to my friend whose eldest son has cystic fibrosis, and the hurdles she must overcome every day? I am not minimising mine, just really saying it's hard to compare.

    For each of us a loss is a loss and to us the loss is significant and we are the only ones that walk our own path, even if others are beside us, our path is our own.

    I wear a gold heart shaped pendant with 3 amythests( a gift from DH in remembrance of our babies) and I regularly sleep with their bunny rugs. I have kept a journal. We have photos, even of wee little Nicholas. We donated a digital camera and printer to the hospital after Amelia was born, because they didn't have one, and we were unprepared and didn't take one. We live close so DH went home and got the camera. I didn't want other parents taken by surprise to miss out on the opportunity to have lots of photos. I will put together a "montage" eventually.

    But as much as anything I feel that DH and I the best memorial of and for our children. They were created in our love, the grew in our love and died in our love. Their legacy, is the woman and mother and wife ( and man, father and husband) that you all see. They are always with me in everything I do.

    Chez I like the idea of your connected charms. Your little Ryan is always with you.

    Gigi1 - I too have toyed with the idea of a tatoos, but in the end have decided it's not for me, but I do like the symbolism in the hip and wing concepts.

    Blessedatlast - I have thought long and hard about "my story". As everyone in here knows, it's so easy to read the word loss/miscarriage/stillbirth but those words belie so much anguish and torment and I am not sure I can do mine justice. For some reason I am reluctant to put it in my signature, in a brief version. And I was never comfortable with the idea of just blurting out my story in a new thread. So in reality it's come out in bits and pieces across various threads. I won't go into to much detail tonight, but just by way of quickie ( still have some sense of mischief!) I miscarried in July 2008 at 8 weeks- blighted ovum, I must look up the date, Amelia was born alive extremely premature at 21 weeks and 6 days gestation on 23 February 2009 and lived for 35 minutes and weighed 455grams, Nicholas ( or twin 1 as he was known before he was born) was born at 14 weeks and 5 days gestation on 28 July 2009, but only lived briefly and he only weighed about 90grams, and Sophie ( or twin 2 as she was known before she was born) was born at 19 weeks and 6 days gestation on 30 August 2009 weighing 230grams and she lived amazingly for 3 hours. The twins were dichorionic diamniotic (DCDA) fraternal twins. We have had a small service for each our precious ones and had them cremeated, even wee Nicholas. We are currently trying to settle on the words we like for the inscriptions. We have Amelia's sorted, but still working on one each for Nicholas and Sophie. Maybe that's one of the things I will do on their EDD, let them give me the strength to finish.

    I know what you mean about a epic and draining journey to memoralise your angels.

    Gigi1 I second the burning holes in the HPT's hoping for that second line. I haven't tested again... am holding off. I am sorry about your BFN.

    Chez - good work on the big O. Hopefully it works into a BFP soon. Don't go mental in the 2WW.

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    Dory, thank you so much for sharing your painful journey. I hope it wasn't too difficult for you.. I will be thinking of your family around this hard time.. I love what you said,
    For each of us a loss is a loss and to us the loss is significant and we are the only ones that walk our own path, even if others are beside us, our path is our own.
    You are very wise

    Chez- I will have my fingers crossed for you.. Hope your dream comes true!! I start back at TAFE early Feb.. Orientation is on 27th Jan.. I am so nervous, but glad for the distraction!
    Last edited by blessedatlast; January 8th, 2010 at 06:35 AM.

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    Hi ladies,

    Sorry I've been MIA, but now that I am a lady of leasure (I finished work at the end of December with a nice package!!) I have been jetting around Australia and it's been lovely. We went to QLD on Boxing Day and then to Lorne here on the Great Ocean Road for a few days which was lovely. Everything is well at my end, just getting bigger and more uncomfortable but I kick myseld every time I have a whinge..lol.

    Dory, I've read your story about losing your precious babies, and it just broke my heart. You are such a strong lady to have survived it all, and to keep on going with your TTC journey. I admire your strength and courage, and wish and pray for your well deserved BFP hun. I will be thinking of you coming up to your twins EDD, and as for not knowing what to do for Amelia's angelversary, I hear you hun, I still haven't had a proper 'ceremony' to burry Joshua's ashes, I don't know if I will ever be ready to do that hun. We'll see.

    Cheryl, your holiday sounds so nice, I pray that your dream does come true darl!

    Blessedatlast, sorry to hear about the thrush hun. I have it too ATM, I stopped taking my Inner Health Plus when I went to QLD and now the wretched thing in back!! I hate having it and the itchiness is driving me mad! Fingers crossed for a lovely BFP for you too lovie!

    Gigi, sorry about your BFN hun, praying you'll have more luck next time hun

    Aries, I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you hun, I hope AF has stayed away for you

    Hi to everyone else I have missed and heaps of baby dust and sticky vibes for everyone in this thread!

    B xxx

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    Hi ladies,

    Everything is well at my end, just getting bigger and more uncomfortable but I kick myseld every time I have a whinge..lol.


    B xxx
    Made me chuckle..now we have to work on you growing bigger and more uncomfortable and being kicked from the inside. Sorry, i hope this is not totally inappropriate but as i was reading your post i am thinking...wait on who is this, pregnant?, no. Oh god. You really spun me around...obviously not concentrating.

    Sorry everyone for no personals. Dory sorry hun, will get to reply to you soon brave girl. You have taken my heart for bit.
    AF is here and I am not happy Jan...geting there, just tired, so tired of it all.
    Night all. xoxo

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    Gigi1 - it's easy not to concentrate with so much going on. You made me laugh - and boy do I need it. Sorry about old AF. It's a bummer.

    Beata70 - I know how you feel - but you know just because you've experienced loss of your precious ones, it doesn't mean you need to feel guilty for the usual range of emotions in your pregnancy, including a bit of whinging about how you're feeling. Besides girl, you are hormomal. Go with it! Thanks for the compliment. This wisdom thing? Hard earnt. I should wear it like a badge of honour huh? But more seriously I do really understand what you mean about possibly never being ready.... for me it's that I really don't want to have to say goodbye again. Bless little Joshua, your little saint.

    Blessedatlast - not long to go really until TAFE starts up again......

    Chez67 - are you going mental in the 2WW?

    Teagz & Aries - how you doing? Hope you're ok.

    AFM going for some bloods and gtt (glucose tolerance testing) tomorrow to try and get to the bottom of why I am feeling so physically miserable lately. Ironic, never got to that stage in the pregnancies.. oh well at least I will know what the deal is.

    Went to celebrate my brothers birthday yesterday. Didn't think he'd be here with us this year after a near fatal accident on 13 Jan 09. It was just really nice to catch up with him and the family.

    Thanks ladies for your words of support. I am going to be selfish as I still need them. Having a pretty rough time of it for a whole bunch of reasons. Coming here is a bit of a highlight actually. Anyway, better go wash that car, it doesn't wash itself.

    Take care lovelies.

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    thanks for checking up on me girls. I hardly need it - and probably don't deserve it as I don't offer you girls any words as nearly as often as i should!

    Blessed, bubs was due yesterday! Little ratbag seems to have made himself comfy in there. But that's ok, it means he'll be a snuggly newborn for just that little while longer
    I'm sorry to hear about the thrush as well, i had so much trouble with that while TTC it drove me almost insane. Not only because of the physical side of it but emotionally because you have to wait for it to sort itself out, and god damn it's hard waiting around when all you want to do is get activly cracking on The Baby Dream.

    Chez, unfortunately my sniffles and sore throat have developed into a full blown cold, so I'm very very glad I didn't meet up with you last tuesday! (I mean that in the kindest way possible, btw ) I think I'm heading toward the tail end of it now though, the worst seemed to be yesterday.

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    Hi ladies

    Well I'm back at work and back into the routine of life including going to the gym at 6.30 in the morning! I must be crazy but I do enjoy it when I get there, just getting out of bed was hard this morning.

    Dory - thank you for sharing your story with us about your 3 beautiful angels. I was reading your story while sitting in the Q club waiting for my flight, with tears streaming down my face. It was probably for the best that I was in public otherwise I probably would have cried much more in private. You are such a strong lady to mentally be in the place you are now and have the capacity to offer others support after your difficult year. You're amazing On a different note, I hope the Dr can get to the bottom of your fatigue etc soon. It must be frustrating for you.

    Teagz - sorry to hear about your cold I hope your little one stays put just a little bit longer so you can recover but I am sure you are eager to hold him in your arms sooner rather than later. I hope everything goes well. I can't wait to hear your birth announcement.

    Gigi1 - sorry to hear that AF has arrived Bring on 2010 and lots of BFPs in this thread! I have such a good feeling about this year for all of us

    Beata - you sound like you had a lovely time on your holiday. I hope you are doing well.

    Blessedatlast - I hope the thrush has cleared up How annoying for you. Have you tried taking the Inner Health Plus capsules that Beata mentioned? Last year I felt like I was getting thrush and started taking them straight away and all of the symptoms disappeared. I stayed on them for a few months afterwards, and touch wood, I haven't had any recurrences.

    AFM, yes I am going crazy in the 2WW. I have had some strange symptoms which I am trying hard to figure out. I was very emotional and moody yesterday. I watched the Sex and the City Movie which DH got me for Christmas. And I cried, not just at the pg/baby part, but other parts which wouldn't normally set me off, and didn't when I saw it at the cinema. Yesterday I was hungry all of the time - I needed to eat every 2 hours, which is pretty unusual for me. And yesterday afternoon and today I have had some pains in the pelvic region, a bit like AF pains, but not quite. This morning at the gym I was feeling nauseas, and then at 10am I got this sudden rush of nausea, and I just knew if I didn't eat I would throw up! I haven't felt like that since I was pg, but it started at about 6wks last time. Since I only O'd last Wednesday, surely it would be way too early for pg symptoms? Has anyone else had early pg symptoms like these? I want to POAS but I think it is way too early to do that, so yes Dory, I am going crazy

    Anyway, must go. Take care and babydust and stickyvibes to all.
    oxo