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howdy everyone.
Georgie- you don't sound twisted at all. the monthly heart torture is beyond endurance at some point. big hugs to you. the pole thing sounds about right.
Jo- keeping my fingers crossed for Wednesday.
Barbara- i am so sorry for your loss. you are in the brunt of the pain right now. i wish something i could say could help you. but i don't know any of those magic words. big hugs, and let yourself go through whatever you are feeling now. it is such a painful, messed up thing -- there are no grief "stages" like they say -- just a jumble of nasty, painful emotions piled on top of each other. be good to yourself and let yourself go through that jumble. big hugs. at to ttc, i say what everyone else said. start when you are ready, physically and mentally. i needed to wait 2 months for my body to get back to the point where it could support another baby. mentally, well, that is for each to decide. some need longer, some need to try sooner. do whatever you need, my dear.
Mandie- i am so sorry for your losses. if you don't mind me asking, did you name your first two children? what a painful journey you are on. i hope you find the support here that i did. big hugs to you.
as for me, i'm hunkering down for the holiday season. my goal is to live through it as gracefully as possible, and if that isn't possible, well, then just to live through it. i admit to being a grinch this year, and i scowl at holiday displays. i'm not proud of my behavior, but it is the best i can do.
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hi auntie m
my older children are 16 and 12 and called ryan and dylan,
and my two angels are called jaike and jaide
jaike was almost full term and died in jan 06 and i was 5 1/2 months with jaide and she died in nov 06
im sorry about your angel,
did you get a reason,.
and does that bar at the bottom mean your pregnant?
mandxx
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howdy Mandie. all of your children have beautiful names. i am so sorry for your pain in loosing Jaike and Jaide. do you know what happened to Jaike and Jaide? do you have to keep your eye on anything for your future ttc?
our son Yeti died at 39 weeks when the cord became knotted and cut off his supply of oxygen and blood. he was born this last March 16. yes, we are pregnant with our second child, a little girl. it is a bit of a rollercoaster to be pregnant again after a loss, as you well know. the support here has made all the difference to me. i am hoping good things for your new year's testing.
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Hi all, how is everyone?
Welcome mandi, I am so sorry for the loss of your little angels.
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Hey Aunty M, I just caught up on the news.. :) for your baby girl..
Mand I am so sorry for your losses. what part of Liverpool? I have rellies out in Wirral. I was over there in July 1989 and it was the best part of our 3 mths in the UK.
Barbra is Vermont part of NY? I have a friend lives in Montreal but works in Vermont.. seems a long way to go to work each day.
off to do the washing.
hugs
Judy
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Mand - I am so sorry for your loss, no one should have to go through this once let alone twice.:hug:
Judy - Vermont is a different state that is farther north than I am. It borders Canada in spots and Montreal is not far from the Canadian border. Your friend may not be traveling too long for work.
Auntie M - Thanks for your kind words.:hug: You are right about the jumble of emotions. Sometimes I can't stop crying, then am so angry I want to punch something, then can be in a state of shock about the whole thing and just feel numb. I also agree about the holidays. I am in a bah humbug moos myself.
Barbara
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Well I feel like I just got kicked while I am already down. My OB just called with results from our genetic testing, or should I say lack of genetic testing. They couldn't regrow Anthony's chromosomes even though he had only been gone a few days when I delivered him. Now, barring a miracle, we will never know why we lost our sweet angel. My DH have been crying for an hour now, and I am sure there is lots more to come. I prayed so hard for answers. I just feel lost.
Barbara
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Barbara -Just wanted to send you some huge {{{HUGS}}}
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Barbara - big big :hugs: I hope you still do get the chance to find out what happened to your angel. There will be plenty more tears...............just let them fall and hold each other close :hug:
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Barbara - I feel so sad knowing what you've had to deal with today. It's just not fair. I do wish you had got some answers that could have brought some direction/clarity to both you and DH. It's seems only fair that the medical world should provide a REASON for the pain, sadness and terrible terrible loss. I still feel the same - I want someone to please please please tell me why? and how? this could happen. You are right to feel how you are. Take all the time you need to scream and cry...knowing that others are sending you hugs/white light/prayers or whatever they believe in to support you from all around the world.
I too had hoped that if someone could answer these questions it would give me somewhere to start for when we TTC'ed again. I needed to know why because I needed to ensure that it could never happen again. But what I've learned from the lovlies at BB - even when there is a reason - the reasons are always hideously unjust/random/unfair anyway.
If I could reach through the computer screen and huggle (that's a hug and cuddle together) you I would.
When you're ready / if you ever fancy pop into the pregancy thread and see all the beautiful bellies that have graduated from the TTC thread - it always gives me such hope that things will be Ok...
love Georgie
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Ok clever ticker girls - My ticker is about to become my new fixation - for some reason my slider doesn't appear...any suggestions... It's bad enough that I'm nowhere near testing (which of course is my main fixation) but a ****y ticker doesn't help this woman on the edge.
cmon Mel, Klee, starbright, Jo, Jude ....anyone??????? (she says in a rather needy and annoying voice)- any clever computer solutions.
I redid the process three times -each time I was asked to select a ticker except my ****y ticker never appears. when I have to do the copy and paste part I select the BB Code selection (the top one)...am I way off??
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howdy everyone.
Judy- thanks for the :) for pea(nut). hugs to you.
Barbara- big hugs, sweetie. i'm so sorry you didn't get any answers. like Georgie said, it isn't fair, not at all. let those tears flow, my dear. and go ahead and punch or break something when you feel like it- just make sure it is not something you'll miss (like your hand). i shattered some glass in one of my worse moments and it was cathartic. until i had to pick up glass all over the yard so the dogs didn't get cut.
Georgie- i'd try a new site for a ticker, or cut and past a different code part. i had to try a couple of times to get the cut and paste right. it is frustrating.
i've got a stomach virus, so aren't you all happy to only know me via a computer and not in person? ;)
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Hi girls,
Just sticking my head in............
Georgie - I have the same trouble with my ticker - no slider. We have done the process correctly - so suggest we go to another site for different tickers!! Mine keeps putting the wrong cycle day on it too - I'm actually CD5 - and like you, I don't obsess about every single day ;) I WANT CD5 TO APPEAR!!!!!!! So, you've inspired me to get a different one..........
Hi to everybody in here!
Lee xo
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Georgie - as auntie m and lee suggested try a different website, i know when i linked mine i kept trying each link then previewing until i got the right one. so thankful also that judy could give you the info on vitex, next time you know just don't listen to me lol.
aunty m - hope your tummy settles down and pea(no)nut is being soothed by its grumblings.
barbara - I'm so sorry you couldn't get any answers, is there anything else that they are still looking at that may give you something? which part of new york are you from?
mand - welcome, I'm so sorry for your losses, i posted to you on another thread, iw ill go back and answer your questions there.
jo - any news?
not much happening here, just wanting to check on you wonderful ladies
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Jo - thinking of you :hug: I hope AF stayed away yesterday and continues to stay away for the next 9 months! :pray: Big big hugs to you babe :hugs:
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Thank you for validating my "mountains become mole hills" issue...that slider was SOO important to me last night - along with the why isn't the picture on the new TV as clear as I'd like...and why are grade two girls so mean at my DD's school. Come on 2008 I'm ready for a fresh start.
Lee - I love that new ticker and that gorgeous (working) slider - very impressive! I especially love the hand holding people - too cute. Still got you very close in my thoughts. If friendship vibes made babies we'd all be rubbing our tummies today...but especially you...You are incredible to have got through this year. I hope your getting through the days with lots of love around you.
Mand - I am so sorry for your losses and hope that you've got lots of lovely support people around you - and remember whenever you need it you've got us too of course -
Auntie M - sorry to hear about the tummy virus - actually I'm disappointed I'm not close enough to have a little stomach virus - it's exactly what I need this close to bikini season when I haven't lost a single pound all year. Is three weeks too late to start dieting? Bikini's are just a thing of the past for me - neck to knee wouldn't even come close to covering all the comfort eating that's been happening in Parkdale Victoria this year. Just for the record chocolate biscuits do not help mend sadness - sad but true. Wouldn't it be lovely if creamy pasta was diet food - back to reality.
Lynn - how are you travelling?
Jo - Thinking of you in this next 24 hours with fingers crossed!!!!!
Me, I'm building up for the last of the 2007 bonk fests...over the years I think I've tried all the different advice on what days to DTD - this time I think I'll try a free for all...why not...gorgeous DH must have forgotten what my normal libedo really is...he he he he would only have to glance at my diary to see why he's "so much hotter" between day 10 and 20. Sorry TMI and felt like being silly - even I need a break from my own brooding.
Georgie
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Arggg Klee - I knew I forgot someone - how are you???? I will listen to you until the day I die - I just love the fact that you are always helping suport, encourage and listen. I'd be lost without you...don't stop! Have you got any little pictures for me to croon over? Can't wait to see one! What about a tummy shot? With you and Mel - I'm sure I'm close enough to catch some of those baby vibes.
Tell us how you're going? Hugs to you for your mood
love G
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georgie - be as silly as you like, our lives are consumed with grief its good to get a laugh every once in a while. hell why not finish the year off with a bang or at least a few, lol, sorry had to say it, couldn't let it pass. I'll be back soon, when i change shifts, then i can be on here a bit more
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Auntie M - Unfortunately my apartment has sound-prof walls (just a fancy way of saying solid concrete) or I would be punching my way through them. Maybe I will try throwing something.
Klee - We are still waiting for the official autopsy report, but my OB didn't sound hopeful that it would have answers. I am from Yonkers which is just north of New York City. It is the southern most part of New York.
Well my news continues to get worse. I had to get an ultrasound today as part of my normal follow-up...I remember when getting an ultrasound was the most exciting thing in the world. Now I just got to see my empty uterus. Well the technicial told me I have some small polycyctic cysts on my ovaries. She said that since AF has always been regular, that I shouldn't worry, but I haven't heard from my OB yet. I tried looking up these kind of cycts and it doesn't sound like something "not to worry about". In fact I am very worried. Have any of you ladies heard of polycystic cysts? I just don't know how many times I ma expected to get back up again after being knocked down like this.
:cry: Barbara
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Hi ladies,
Barbara - it amazes me how many times some folk get kicked. I don't know much about the cysts, but I think there's a thread in here or on another site, a group of ladies with this problem. I think they are fixable, but confess, don't know much. It's just one more thing on top of your loss. I pray that you will eventually get some answers about Anthony (I love his name) - keep pushing, and don't be afraid to get a second opinion. Big hugs to you during this rotten awful time.
Georgie - LMAO - I reckon your DH will be just as suspicious as mine - mine never looks better than from CD10-20. And you know what, he doesn't mind!!!! The rest of the month, sorry dear, not tonight, I have a headache, or as some of the ladies in the PG thread might appreciate - "it's scrabble night" lol...... In a few days time, I'll start dropping some not so subtle hints, just to get him sweating in anticipation!!!! Got to keep the DH's happy..... I'm up for some humour at this time, for sure. And, I must admit, I'm pretty smug with my new ticker - suggest you go get yourself a new one (with working slider). A girl needs a slider! Hope your brooding is manageable. I'm feeling a bit better, but just got some bad news about a friend of mine in NSW, who had a motorbike accident, and is in Sydney with spinal injuries - not sure as to the extent of them. I reckon that just about wraps up a crap year.
Jo - NO AF, NO AF, NO AF - this is a good mantra too. How are you???? Anything to report yet?
Judy - I'm in Hobart, and you're in Collinsvale - we are not far away huh. How are you doing? It's a long painful journey, this ttc thing........... hope you're ok.
Hi to everyone else.
I'm off for a massage - last day of school for my kdis, so I'm making THE most of it.
Lee xo
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No AF yet! Fingers crossed!
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Lee - Anthony was my father's middle name. Now the two of them are hanging out watching us in heaven. On a lighter note I do love your ticker. Very cute and congrats on getting it to work! Enjoy your massage I am quite jealous.
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Lee - And by the way I think all of us in here have been kicked too many times. WSe all deserve a great and fertile 2008...and also a nice massage.
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Anthonys mum - my old manager has PCOS and fell pregnant first month of trying, and carried beautiful lil baby boy to term. Not even a single hiccup during her pregnancy - bit of a hard birth, but the pregnancy was no troubles. So it really can happen.
PS - hopefully i can be joining you all in this forum of TTC soon. I cant wait!
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Jo I have everything crossed for you :pray:
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Barbara, I have Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome and don't ovulate on my own. Every body is different and there are different levels that you can have it.
Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) is usually diagnosed by hormone tests and a glucose tolerance test. The appearance of polycystic ovaries doesn't actually mean that you have PCOS, just as it is possible to have all the signs and symptoms of PCOS and normal ovaries.
The statistics are around 1 in 4 women have polycystic ovaries and it doesnt cause any issues at all in terms of them falling pregnant.
Ultrasounds can not be used alone in terms of diagnosing PCOS.
There needs to be 2 out of the 3 symptoms found for it to be assessed as PCOS. The 3 things are:
1. Periods which are irregular (less than around 6 each year)
2. Blood Tests which show high male hormones
3. Polycystic ovaries
Speak to your ob about doing some more test if you are concerned.
Best of luck!
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Hi everyone
I have been reading all your posts but not feeling ok about posting myself. Just wanted to say to Anthonysmum I too have polycystic ovarian syndrome and I have been pg 6 times! No live babies as yet but that has nothing to do with the PCOS - if you have it confirmed its suggested you stick to a low GI diet to reduce the symptoms and especially if you suffer the symptom of insulin resistance which I do. Good luck - feel free to chat if you have any other questions.
Naomi
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Jo - everything is crossed from me too
georgie
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Hey there ladies, i was naughty and tested this morning and got BFP... still early days yet- i have a dr's appt on the 14th- it seems that it is good luck to jump threads... lets hope our little Sprout grows nice and strong.... I know that this can be bitter sweet news to some- i pray that you all get a BFP too soon!!
Thank you all for being there to help me while i waited for this moment, i will keep popping in to say hi and see how you are all going, just let me know- ticker or no ticker?
Good night and goodluck!!!
Wishes can come true!!!
Love Kat
xoxoxo
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SB - I responded to you in the other thread, but wanted to say again:
WELL DONE!!
We are all worthy of BFPs in here, especially so I believe. So, we all wish you a healthy and extremely uneventful pregnancy. And we will all be following in your footsteps shortly....... :)
Lee xo
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:happyforyou::happyforyou::happyforyou:Star Bright:dance::clap::dance:
Hoorah ( I think i mentioned that in the other thread) but as for the ticker...it's a BIG BIG BIG yes please from me!!!!!
Lee - please let us know how your friend is doing - what a horrible shock - if you noticed my new, (yes that's right everyone I finally worked out the ticker complete with snappy slider) you'll see how cute the old DH is at the moment - even his snoring doesn't sound so loud. he he he Welcome to my parlour said the spider to the fly....he he he
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YAY!HUGE CONGRATS SB
as for me, no AF yet, but I'm not holding my breath, I've been late heaps before
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Oh My God - SB - I am so happy for you! My MIL told me to stand on my head with my legs crossed for 9 months - my head is getting al,ittle sore but at least I wont feel so silly with you doing it as well! WHoo, hoo!!
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kat - just posted to you in the other thread but a huge congrats hon, stick sprout stick. time for for you know who, some green guys, some :happyforyou::stickyvibesboy::happyforyou::stickyv ibesgirl::happyforyou:
georgie - love the new ticker, your bees look like they're starting to get jiggy with it, lol
naomi - good to hear from you, feel free to move to the pg thread where you can talk about yourself, your pregnancy, your feelings, your fears etc. they're loads of wonderful supportive women there. look after yourself.
jo - stay away af, praying everything for you
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:happyforyou: YAAAAAAY SB :happyforyou:
Naomi - You should pop into the pg thread, everyone there knows how hard the road is. Hope all is going well with you and that we will see you at the meeting next Tues.
Jo - :crossfingers: and :pray: for :SAAF:
Georgie - Only 1 day to go - :crossfingers: and :pray: for :fertilise:!
Lee - I hope your friend is ok, how awful!
Hi to everyone else, hope you are all doing ok.
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SB - I am so happy for you! :confetti: That is awesome news :hug:
Jo - I hope you are wrong and that af is not late, I hope she never comes at all!!! Thinking of you :hug:
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Congratulations Kat :happyforyou: and :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy: for you...
laying low here not TTC this cycle, after 3 yrs I just can't be bothered anymore.
I'll be around just not as often.
hugs
Judy
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Anthonysmom: I had PCOS and went on clomid back in 1995 and had a successful pregnancy. But nowadays I think they give you metformin (an insulin regulating drug) first. They now think PCOS is linked to insulin problems.
Hi everybody, I'm joining this thread now, too. I have three healthy children (praise God!) and four miscarriages, the last being in October. And yes, we're TTC.
Actually, it's kind of wierd. We didn't actually start "trying" for a baby, but back in 2005 we decided to let nature take its course--no more TTA. We got pregnant almost immediately but lost it, then had two more miscarriages, one in 2006 and this last one. (My first miscarriage was between my second and third live births--naturally, I thought it was a fluke).
If I had just gone month after month without conceiving, I would have been disappointed, but philosophic about it. I knew I wasn't going to take any drugs or procedures to conceive, just do it naturally, because we do have three kids.
But I never would have predicted that instead I got preggers easily but couldn't hold them. So I'm doing tons of research into how to prevent a miscarriage in the future.
Two questions--what does CD mean and DTD? Wishing everybody here a BFP sooner rather than later!
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Judy - :hug: It is hard to find the motivation to keep going after so many slaps in the face. :crossfingers: that not trying will be the key... although it never was for me :rolleyes:
TM - Welcome to the thread... sorry for what you have been through, hopefully you will be able to graduate very quickly :) CD = Cycle Day & DTD = do the deed ;)
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howdy everyone.
Georgie- lol, what a yucky way to loose weight - there has GOT to be a better way! chocolate may not mend sorrow, or help our waist lines, but it certainly feels good! lol re the diary and why our dhs get so much hotter at certain times of the month. so true. a little natural libido can't hurt. i agree with Klee- end the year with a "bang" or two. love the bee slider - perhaps he has an operational "stinger"? sorry for my off-color joke.
Barbara- i'm so sorry to hear about the test results. sounds like Lynn has some good information. i hope the tech was right, insist that your OB get back to you quickly - you deserve it and NOW. big hugs my dear.
Lee- lol re the "slider" - every girl does need one. i've a one track mind today. sorry to hear about your friend's accident - too many kicks is right.
Kat- woo hoo for you! i posted on the other page too, but yippee skippee again!!
Jo- keeping my fingers crossed and thinking good thoughts for you.
Naomi- howdy and big hugs to you . like Klee said, please come over to the preg thread if you find yourself in need of support. i do all the time.
Judy- big hugs to you, sweetie. i'm sorry not to "see" you as much, but hope you can come to terms with your decision. :hug:
TM- welcome and i'm so sorry for your losses.
