TTC after Recurrent Miscarriage/Stillbirth or Loss after the 1st trimester ~ OCT07#2

Hey Ladies!

Kat- yay for home internet!

I have no time for personals at all.. but I do have a quetion. I had a temp dip this morning at 7 dpo... and I really dont want to get my hope up. Do any of you stalk charts? Would you give mine a once over? I need someone to squash my hopes so if I'm not this cycle I won't be devastated. I make no sense, I know. :wall: my chart: Charting Home Page - FertilityFriend.com


Hugs
CeCe

That looks like a hope inspiring dip there Cece. I hope this is it :D

Kat you are so funny but how kewl to have you here now 24/7. I hope the Universe just has your BFP in hiding and all will be revealed shortly.

hugs all
Jude

Hello everyone!!!My internet was short lived but then my magnificent DH has got it going for me again!! I am using teltra's modem and it is a bit slower- but hey i'm here!!!

Unfortunatley no hidden BFP waiting to be revealed... got another BFN this morning-still no sign of AF yet so there is still hope. I have been doing my opk's too and i got a pretty dark line yesterday- has anyone heard of anyone ovulating this late in the month??

Like i said i am still hoping. I managed to read throught a few more posts but i still didnt get through them all so i will be back for some personals later.

Take care!!
Love katti

Another :bfn:
Cycle just keeps getting longer by the day.... i have a theory

Due to being a week late two months ago i think my body is trying to get back into its rhythym again- my prediction AF will arrive on Monday but it will be really light and almost nothing and then it will come again two weeks after that... it has happened before... lets just wait and see.

Heading off to work for a few hours, will be back this after noon- its very quiet in here- hope lots of busy baby making happenening!! LOL

One good thing- i went to a site called face book and i had to change something in my secutirties and now i can edit properly and use icons again!! Yay!!

I might go edit my last post so it looks better!! LOL

Take care everyone- hey Jo how is the Tww going??

Love SB
xox

kat - hon any news? i have heard of women getting a +ve opk when pg, i really hope thats the case.
cece - your chart looks good, sorry i can't help by saying it doesn't, cause it looks like a nice dip there.
mel - i know you might not be around but I am thinking of you and dh, you are in my thoughts constantly, what else must one couple endure?! sending my prayers to you.
hi to everyone, sorry i've been a bit scarce just been a busy few weeks.

Thanks y'all for looking at my chart... I am still not too hopeful though.. just can't be. had a teensy dip today but I was mouth breathing all night because I have a cold. So I don't know if I should count myself out or in.

My sister... oh my sister. She wants to fly into visit us on the day Eli was due. I told her that although we would love to see her, her dh and the new baby (i lied), that day just wasn't a good day to do it. She got all angry and told me I was a selfish &*%$ for not making compromises. This is the same girl who didn't bother to meet our Abby until she was 18 mos old.. AND refused to allow children at her wedding when Abby was 7 weeks old, she expected me to fly across country to see her wed and help care for mom during her 600,000.00 dollar nuptuals while leaving the kids with dh. Needless to say, I stayed home and hired a nurse to care for mom while she went. Ok I am babbling. But I need an honest opinon... am I being selfish? Should I take one for the home team? I just don't know if I am strong enough to deal with her on that day. I am just at a loss as to whats right.

Any ideas?

Mel- I am thinking of you and praying for a wonderous miracle really soon.

klee- I am so glad you popped in... how's your heart hun?

Auntie- How are you?

Everyone else... mucho love!

CeCe

Cece if it was me I'd stick to my guns. You have said it is not a good day so don't start giving in or she will expect you to always give in to her selfish demands. JMO . she has not done anything to accomodate you an yuo rfamily so why you should start? I know it is not a very Christian attitude to have but after a while being the pacifist and biting off your tongue starts to hurt. It is your day to remember Eli and do you honestly think she will allow that to happen? Do what is best for you and your own family hun, If she still wants to com eout make it for a week later when the cut is not so open and hurting.
:hug:
Judy

Hey all,

Just a quick one, no AF yet!

ooh jo, hoping everything that she stays away, keep us updated.
did you get the downpour up your way?

Hi Everyone
Having a crap week - Ethans due date tomorrow - and I am crying at everything and everyone. No one has remembered and so when I am upset people ask "whats wrong?". I may be asking too much but why am I the only one who remembers??

CeCe - I really am not the one to talk given the saga of my sisters upcoming "event" - but if its too hard for you then tell her "no"! She is only doing it to make herself feel better and this is about you and your family coping with a really hard day - not easing other peoples guilt!

If I could not attend the event next week without casuing WW3 I would be staying home under my doona, sobbing my heart out for what should have been!

I wont be able to get on email tomorrow so I am posting this for my baby today - hope no one minds?

To my precious Ethan - This week you should have been born into my arms and I still cannot believe you are not here with us! I hope you are not in any pain and that Mum Packer is looking after you. I hope you have made friends with all the other precious angels and that you are laughing!

All my love Mummy

cece - you are not being selfish in the slightest, thats the day eli was supposed to arrive, not the day her majesty is coming to town. tell her to lose the horns and grow a heart, that day is about remembering eli and if she can't accept that, then she's a sister not worth having.
naomi - hugs to you and ethan for tomorrow, you, your dh and ethan will be in my thoughts and prayers.
mel - thinking of you today on this nicholas' angelversary and for everything else that is going on in your life. look after yourself
kat - hoping af has stayed away, let us know how you are doing.
big hugs to everyone.
me - i feel a bit odd today, like i've eaten too much (which i did last night),

Hello girls!!

AF arrived- no internet (problems again!!!) no credit!! Aust post an out!!! Its just not my week- month- year

Will try to sort my s%it out soon!!

Jo hope she stays away from you!!!

Katti

Klee - yep we got a good downpour, in the middle of the kids athletics carnival saturday night & again on sunday! LOL, made for very wet kids (DS at home with a cold today)

Naomi, hugs to you & your DH for Ethans due date tomorrow, I remember so well what that was like for me on Storms due date.

HI to everyone else!

kat big :hug: to you, so sorry to hear the witch showed, so sorry hon.

Kat - Bu%#@*r that stupid AF!

Naomi big hugs for Ethans due date. :hug: Thinking of you hun.

Kat oh that stupid AF, fancy showing up after giving you faint lines. Internet lol.. hmm dare I say.. Telstra/Bigpond.

Jo I hope AF is still staying away from your house.

hugs from the clomid dragon

Judy

howdy everyone.
kat- damnit. big hugs to you.
you made me lol about the "virus". i just wanted to blame someone for my cold. but is the same culprits as usual - my niece and nephew who can't interact without exchanging fluids of some sort or another.
cece- you are NOT being selfish. you need to take care of yourself and your feelings on this important day (or any other day, for that matter) because otherwise there will be none of "you" left. that is most important now. you can pamper your sister's whims later. she is selfish to not have the compassion for your pain. she could easily adjust her schedule -- it only takes a little compassion. (i like how klee put it best . . .)
naomi- big hugs to you and Ethan on the day he should have been born into your arms. (sorry i am late in my thoughts for you . . .)
mel- hope all is going well this try.

sorry i have been mia for some days, nothing to report, just busy at work and away from my computer for too long. hugs to all of you, and i'm thinking about you all even when i'm not posting.

Naomi- thinking of you this week hun. I am sorry my wishes are late... been dealing with family drama.

Well, I got the most awesome FALSE bfp on a blue dye test yesterday. And a ton of mailers in the mail congradulating me on my new baby :( I hate mailing lists. I hate the world right about now actually. My temp has started its pre AF decline... Beginning to think I am destined to never have another baby to nurse. In a really ugly space today. Sorry. I am lurking, reading and praying for you all.

Big love to each of ya.

big hugs, cece. what a bunch of crap. and sometimes, hating the world is about the only thing to do.

i "just" need to learn that i can't fix things for people, or myself, no matter how much they deserve things to be fixed. maybe someday i'll stop having that urge to fix. but right now, i'm mad as hell that i can't fix things for everyone here. maybe some lunch will help. xxoom

wel AF started for me yesterday, so back to the start we go again :(

oh...... $#!@ hun, sorry Jo, I was so hoping this was it for you ... :hug:

Cece how do you know it is a false bfp? Did it fade away? is it clear? How quick did it come up? You can have a temp dip and be pg.. I have a few charts from friends that show a bfp but then dipping temps.

hugs to you all
Judy

jo -sorry to hear that witch turned up, what a stupid, stupid cow she is. sorry, big hugs hon
cece - i'm with judy on this one, mine was one of those charts, going on the date they gave me at the us i went back and looked at my chart, i had dips at days 10 and 14, of just over .2 of a degree, and had a faint pos on day 10. i can't look at your chart, cause i'm at work, but i will try and get on tonight to see what the dip is like. I'm sorry you are feeling down, but its not over until the witch is singing, big hugs to you too.
how is everyone else?

Hello Everyone - if you dont mind i think i might have to join this thread!
i woke up this morning with some pretty heavy bleeding - my OB said sounds like i am MC for the 2nd time - nothing he can do just got to sit it out and wait - if bleeding continues for 7days than let him know as it may not have all passed - this M/C is different to my 1st one as im earlier and hadnt gone for my first scan yet - my 1st MC was only tiny brown spotting and i ended up having a D/C after a scan confirmed the worse - this time it looks like i might not have to worry about that - when will i know its all over? i havent had any major pains just discomfort!
My OB has asked me to keep my appt with him which would of been my first scan on the 26th - so he can have a chat with us and maybe organise some test to see if something is wrong with me or DH - im so scared something might be wrong and that we might not have the chance to become parents!
Can we start TTC straight away or should we wait until we have seen OB?
Im so confused and have no idea what to do

jo- arrgggh. damn af.
hj- so sorry for your miscarriages. i've no good information for you, but i would certainly wait to ttc until the ob has figured out how to best assure that your next can be carried to a h&h baby. hugs to you.

Hi Hj - I am so sorry for the losses you have had {{{HUGS}}}, I would agree with auntieM & wait till you see the OB, it's only a couple of weeks till then

Hi everyone else, how are you all, me I've got a cold and feel pretty crappy!

Well Everyone
Thank you all SOOO much for your kind thoughts and wishes on what should have been Ethans due date! I think the anticipation of getting through the day was much worse than the day itself - DH and I had a massive fight on the Monday night (of course it was CD 14 and we should have been BDing - it always happens to us!). I went to the acupuncturist on the Tuesday morning for her to weave her relaxing magic and it definitely worked. Then my DH arranged a MASSIVE arrangement of red roses and a little blue teddy to arrive with the most gorgeous card which I want to share with you all:
"To Mum,
I am so sorry if you are upset but I am so lucky to have you as a Mum and I will be looking down and smiling on you.
Love Ethan"
Sometimes my DH really out does himself!

So like everyone else we are trying desperately to conceive again and have decided that if it doesnt happen au naturale by next month then we will head back to use some "icies" at IVF. I am 36 in March and the clock is ticking REALLY loudly!

Love to you all - lets all send wishes to Mother Nature that December is a better month for us all than November and that she will bless us with babies to take home and love like no other baby has been loved!!

Naomi

Naomi - Big :hugs: to you for Ethan's due date. Your DH sounds just lovely, dont worry about the argument... its always the way, life's pressure and everything just had to come out somehow huh! Hopefully I will see you at the meeting next Tuesday.

Thanks Mel
I will definitely be at there next Tuesday - Im off to Adelaide on Thursday next week for the "event" so need all the support/courage/bravery I can get!

Where are you at with your next cycle?

Naomi

Naomi - if you get a chance are you able to email me? lilleymel@aol.com

not much happening here , is now 2weeks since my d&c hoping AF arrives in 2 weeks, fingers crossed.

hopefully AF arrives on schedule for you.

howdy everyone.
Jo- sorry about the cold. now that mine is done, someone told me to vicks rub on the feet. who knows?
naomi- i cried to read your dh's note. it is so right.

naomi - your dh's card is beautiful and so true, ethan is smiling down on you, you saw how lovely a day it was weather wise, that was ethan shining down on you. I would love to be able to come support you next tuesday, I will send my thoughts and support with mel, you know i'll be thinking of you as the 'event' rolls around, but i don't think its the right place for me to be anymore, as much as it helps me i don't think it would help others to see me as i am. au naturale has worked for you before, and I pray it works for you again, soon.
mel - how you going today? good luck with your scan. thinking of you.
judy - hows the clomid dragon today?
cece - how you coping? I'm praying af has stayed away, thinking of you.
jo - how are you today? weather nice in your neck of the woods, its lovely here. hope af is treating you kindly
auntie m - vicks on the feet, wow what a novel idea, i once knew a lady who craved it during pg, she used to eat it by the tub full, mind you her son barely ever gets a cold, lol
hj1981 - i'm so sorry for your losses, so terrible to hear of more angels, i tend to agree with the other ladies, wait to see what your ob says before ttc'ing again, you know the heartbreak you are feeling, just think they may be able to find a reason so that you never feel that again, big hugs to you.

klee- you are a dear. Thank you for your prayers and kind thoughts

Mel- I am praying this is the month for you.

Naomi- what a lovely note... I cried. I am thinking of you at this time. Big Big hugs.

AuntieM- how are you? seriously. You've been on my heart.

Kat- hugs and baby dust for this cycle.

Hugs and Love to everyone else.


As for me... AF showed this afternoon just as I was putting my hubby on a plane for Texas... He is going home for a couple days for a meeting with our church conference. I am in a pretty ugly place... sorry my personals aren't as personal as they should be.

Hugs to you wonderful Ladies!
CeCe

Cece :hug: for AF hun.

Naomi that was so lovely. I am sure Ethan is watching over you with love.

Klee the clomid dragon has gone for now. Ovareis are aching a bit though and .. worst news is we got one of those male fertility tests from lullaby conceptions and.. DHs count is shwoing as lower than average. So the pamphlet says to go see a dr if the shading is in the purple negatives group. So DH wants to try anyhow.. I just have to restrict and time it so he doens't waste them before they are needed... then after that he will go and get a check up. He did have a vasectomy reversal back in 2001 so we coud extend the family so maybe something has happened after all this time and he has a blockage?

sorry for no greater depth personals, sick kids here and babysitting sick kids for a friend as well who works.
hugs
Judy

howdy everyone.
klee- lol about eating vicks and not getting a cold. sounds positively awful.
cece- damn it all. wallow in that ugly place, girl. but also remember there are so many of us who care about you and are wishing good things for you. thanks for asking about me, i'm mostly down and trying to keep a stiff upper lip. seems so selfish to be down when i have a good reason to be happy. big hugs to you.
judy-i hope the doc has something good to say to your dh. maybe a quick fix is possible? i don't know beans, but i am hopeful for you both.

hey all, how is everyone?

not much to report here, af is nearly gone (hopefully for good)

Hi There Everyone!!

Well af gone, as Jo says, hopefully for good (or at least 9 months!) so i am.... on the road again, lets hope this month is THE month!! LOL i have consolidated myself with the idea that my BFP was in actual fact hiding and waiting for me to have the month of TTC with home connection and then a BFP!! LOL-
T
he things we tell oursleves each month to keep us going!! Well if my theory is correct i am all set- all the cliches are out of the comp and i am set and ready to go..... come on spermies and eggies do your stuff!!!


Naomi.... That note was very sweet of your hubby. He gets 10 stars from me! Good luck this month going el naturale! May the universe deliver your precious bundle of joy to adore!

CeCe.... Sorry about AF arriving. Big hugs to you. Thanks for the baby dust- right back at you!! A few of us have all fallen into line a bit again- we are all gearing up to try again- you can pounce on DH when he gets home!!

Welcome to the thread hj1981, good luck with the drs, i hope you get some answers and some solutions! And a BFP really soon!!


Judy, sorry to hear that things are getting rough, good luck this month anyway! I beleive it can still happen for you! Hope all the sick kiddies start to feel better soon. xo


Jo- here's to another month of trying! Cheers with my extra folate orange juice! LOL





:hello: To auntie M, klee and mel!!

Good nite, good morning! good Luck!Take care!
Much Love
StarBright
xoxox

howdy everyone. so quiet in here. i'll just have to go to work. ;)

Morning all, how is everyone?

It's very quiet in here, I hope everyone is ok!