Lynn - Oh sweety it will happen, your a great mum. Blowing all the baby dust I can muster your way sweety (oh and some for Mel, and all the others who need it). Its good to let it all out...and we are hear for you, when and if you need even if it is only to vent.
Lyn - I am so sorry you are feeling like this (understandably) - just wanted to say that when I was TTC I never got a +ve on an OPK so don't rely on them totally. Are you doing your temps too?
Kerry - I wish I could remove all the hurt you are feeling right now - we all deal with the grief in different ways. When you are ready we are here for you - I was/am the same, coming onto BB with good intentions of helping everyone else out and then finding I don't know what to say. Just remember we are hear to listen though.
T.
Hey Lynn, I'm so sorry you're having a hard time, you've been lovely since I joined the forum and wish I could give you a hug (sure everyone feels like that a lot in here!). If an OPK is an ovulation test (sorry, haven't had a chance to check abbrevs), thought I should let you know that I was using one last time I got pregnant - and the entire month it said I wasn't ovulating! Pays to keep the baby making up anyway obviously....
Flowerchild thanks for the advice about getting old - usually don't focus on it but it is difficult when you miss a month and start worrying about the time flying by - why does this whole process have to take so long!!!!!!!!!
Spring I think it was you who mentioned your hubby being away a lot as well (as usual I'm behind the eight ball in catching up on posts - I need a quieter job so I can spend more time in here!), it's just the one more complicating factor really isn't it? I don't want to turn into the obsessive woman who calls up the hubby and demands he comes home because its the right moment, but I can fully understand how it might happen!!
To everyone else who's send kind words my way after my last post thank you and hope you are all doing well and have some good news soon - think it would be nice to be able to celebrate someone elses success if it's not going so well personally. I am gradually getting my head around your histories, it would be rather nice if we could all meet up wouldn't it? Is anyone else in the group from Brisbane by the way??!
lots of love to all
Mish
HI everyone,
I hope you don't mind if I join you. I have read all your posts and I am so sorry for what you have been through.
As for me we are ttc #1 and I have had two confirmed m/c's out of two pregnancies (early at 5wks) and one where i am pretty sure we conceived and failed about the time AF was due.
I have just started seeing an FS, who ran the hormonals first on CD2 and they came back normal. She is now going to test b/w for some other more complex things - i assume this means clotting disorders and the like. She didn't say.
We are ttc again this cycle, and I must say, I am very very nervous. At the FS appt the doc said oh it's ok, I am sure you will conceive again just fine, and I was like, yes, I know, that is NOT what I am worried about, it is keeping the pg. :rolleyes: I am on about CD7 at the moment, so BD fest coming up soon.
I look forward to meeting ou all.
Welcome Scarlet. I am happy that you have come to join us. Again I am so sorry that your last two babies did not stay with you. You will find lots of love and support on your journey in here. :hug:
Hi everyone,
Lynn - I am so sorry you are going through this, you have done nothing to deserve this and you need to remember that (I understand its hard not to think it though). It is so hard, I really do understand - I agree with the girls though, dont rely solely on the OPKs because they are not 100% proven and (someone correct me if I am wrong) my OB told me there is a fine window of a surge and if you happen to miss that window you won't get a +ive. You know me and my cycle - 100% regular right? Well I should have got +ive on Saturday and I have been testing (yes gave in a bought more - junkie here) 3 times a day and I have not had a +ive on a single one. But I really believe I have O'd anyway because I have had other symptoms. Have you had other symptoms? I know you were saying about your temp dropping and Clare said that happens to her. Also I agree with Deb, see your OB and ask if he can check you out and MAKE SURE everything is working ok. I am thinking of you, you know where I am if you need an ear :hug:
Scarlet - Welcome to the thread (not that you want to be here)! Its easy for the drs to say it will all be fine, they dont live through it. Good luck with this cycle :)
Spring - That was really nice of Kirsty, what a sweet thing to do. You feeling ok with DH gone again?
Jo - Welcome back, sometimes you need some time to yourself and that is ok. Hope you are feeling a little better :)
Hello to everyone else. Sydney gals, how did your catch up go? Hope you had a nice day. It was absolutely sdisgustingly hot in Melbourne over the weekend, so much so that DH and I used our Gold Class tickets last night cause it was so hot in the house I felt like my head was throbbing! Too funny, we saw Music and Lyrics and we had the whole cinema to ourselves - DH said he thought it was a good place to TTC... YEAH RIGHT!!!!!
Well off to cook dinner now, occasionally I need to do something slightly domestic to justify being a "wife" LOL
Mel
Lynn: I know that there may be days when you feel like the whole world is against you but you just have to try to remind yourself that you are a wonderful mother and that no matter what, you are a mum and nothing can take that away for your. The hardest thing is being a mummy to an angel baby. I was so nice to meet you face to face yesterday, you and Bailey are as wonderful in person as your written word. Just hang in there. I agree with the other ladies, ask for the follicle scan that Flowerchild mentioned, it may give you an insight into what has happened. Huge warm fuzzy :hugs: are coming your way.
Kerry: It is nice to see you back babe. When people say this journey is a rollercoaster they are not lying. There are downs but not too many ups. I am so glad to hear from you again. We are all hear to share this painful path with you.
Scarlet: welcome to the thread honey. I am so sorry that you have to be here. I am glad that your FS is looking into doing some tests for you. You will get all the support, information and encouragement you could ever want in here.
Mish: Yes my DH is away for work all the time. It does take the romance out of TTC when you have to schedule BD'ing but.
Flowerchild, Tess and all you other wonderful women, I hope Monday has been kind to you. Take care my sweeties.
Love
Spring
Hi everyone,
I just spent about half an hour writing a huge post, then by internet connection went and it wiped it:throw_computer: so now I have to try to remember the ramblings of a crazy woman and write again.
Lynn - How are you feeling? I just wanted to say, this afternoon I bumped into a friend who is a midwife and I asked her about OPK's. She said, that you really rely on them as they are not 100% accurate. She said that like HPK's, if they show a positive, they are usually correct, but showing a negative or no result can often be wrong. It could be that they just don't work on you or the hormone or whatever (sorry, I am useless with details) that they need to work could be just a little too low for it to pick up. She said a better way to predict is by temp's, CM and cervical position. I didn't ask her about how you check that :redface: I also tested today, and my line was slightly darker than yesterday, but still not enough for a positive, so I am not going to do it anymore!! I am just going to try to think positive (or be in denial) and assume that I will or have still ovulated....so join me and we'll keep our fingers crossed and legs open (lol, sorry - TMI I know) for the next few days! It is heartbreaking to read your post. You have done nothing to deserve this, nothing! None of us have. This is a horrible thing that has happened to you, and I wish so much that your little Cooper was here with you, but I know I don't need to tell you that he always will be in your heart. You will get your baby, I just hope that it is soon. There are so many of us sending you bucketloads of:bluedust:
Kerry - I am glad to see you are back, sometimes a break is a good thing isn't it?
Scarlet - I am so sorry to hear about your babies, and that you have had to join us here. But you really have come to the right place for understanding and support.
Mel - How are things going with DH's ex? I hope that it has sorted itself out abit. Yes, our catchup was really great, though we talked so much that we didn't get to eat all of the yummy stuff that we brought along. But that's ok, we got to take the leftovers home. Lynn and Spring are as awesome in real life as they are here. Surprisingly, we only used about 4 tissues between us....maybe we've all cried ourselves dry!
That said, when I got home I just lost it. To meet you guys was fantastic, but to hear your heartbreaking stories from you in person, I think it just hit me hard. This is so real! Not that it wasn't before, just that it's horrible to know people are going through this horrible experience too, iykwim? Thanks again Lynn and Spring, you and your little ones are beautiful....oh and your hubby's are pretty cute too!! :D
Well, if you thought I had babbled in this post, you should have seen the original. Hugs to everyone.
Hi Bailey - LOL @ the legs open comment :lol: Dont you just hate that, it happened to me on Friday and I got so angry! I am glad your catch up was good, thats a pretty good effort to only go through 4 tissues AND leave the yummies.
You will be sorry you asked about DHs ex cause alot has happened, she is an absolute psycho! She picked up the kids yesterday (and it was totally obvious she was in a bad mood to start with) and he said that he would be happy to see them on the weekend if they are missing him but that spending Xmas and Easter together was not possible, and she said she had changed her mind and he can only see them on Wednesday nights so he told her we cant because we both work so it is impossible, she got off her bike and said "the problem is they arent missing you, you are becoming a stranger to them"! So it has gone from they are stressed not seeing him to they dont know who he is. Im the one who picks them up on the w/ends (as DH works and I have that day off) and they are always waiting at the door for me and when the car pulls up they run out the door yelling to me, they usually forget to say goodbye because they are so excited... what was that about strangers? They stay with us every 2nd weekend without fail and half of all school holidays. The 6 year old boy told us on the w/end he has been crying cause he misses us too much (such a sweetie!) so DH told her this, and she said he must be lying so DH called him over and asked him if that is what he said, he said he did and his mum told him he wasnt and he argued with her saying "yeah I did the other day remember" but she kept trying to confuse him and in the end he got really upset and said "you know I am not lying you remember" so DH told her to let it go, so as she walked off she said (right in front of the kids mind you) "its your loss if you dont want to see your own children", and the 6 year old got really upset. I don't understand her, sometimes its like he cant do anything right. And, she keeps making these comments in front of them and they get upset. So DH has decided for their sake he will not enter into anymore agreements outside the court orders in place to save these situations arising. Worst of all this w/end the 2 year old came with sores all over her body. Her mum insists they are mosquito bites even though she has had them the last couple of times she has come, but this w/end they were really bad. We werent so sure they were bites so we took her to the dr and he said they are school sores and prescribed antibiotic cream, as well as oral antibiotics because they are so severe. We bought the stuff and started her on them, when her mum came we gave them to her to take home, and she said we could keep it because she knows they are mossie bites and all the antibiotics will do is lower her immune system... what the? So now we are left in the situation where her mother wont treat her, she is not with us long enough for us to do anything that will make a difference, and we are susceptible to catching these things from her (which worries me if and when I get pregnant) - she has already passed them onto my nephew. The bad thing is we are powerless to help the poor little thing :( I don't know too much about school sores to be honest, but apparently they are contagious and they look like infected blisters.
Sorry I know TMI, but I get so frustrated and as usual DH just says dont let it bother me. But I am so concerned about my next baby being healthy that it worries me about the 2 year old sores. I guess the moral to the story is that someone like that gets 3 beautiful, healthy children and people like us get ours taken away. Life is cruel!
Hello ladies, I did try and jump on last night to say hi while the hubby was away but my internet connections was busted - so here I am again at work trying to do a sneaky post and hoping noone notices my pretty pink screen!
Scarlet hello and welcome, I know it can be a bit daunting posting when everyone seems to know each other so well, I've only just re-joined the forum after a break so look forward to getting to know you better. I'm so sorry you are having to go through this pain as well, I've also heard the reassurances from doctors that 'next time will be fine' and it really doesn't help - I think I must be a bit like you, usually don't have trouble getting pregnant (except at the moment!), they just don't stick. I can't say the fear goes away, all you can do each time is it manage the best you can by being kind to yourself and doing everything you can to ease stress in other areas of your life (massages, chocolate, etc etc!!) They will probably be testing you for all sorts of conditions- I know mine included clotting disorders, inflammatory conditions, thyroid, etc etc - also chromosomal tests are usually done on yourself and hubby, do you know if they have done that? Let us know how you go with it all...
Mel it must be dreadful trying to deal with the ex on top of everything else, I have several friends who are or have been in the same boat but she sounds particularly unpleasant! Hate the thought of the little one having untreated school sores - is there anyway the doctor can call her and talk about it maybe? Agree completely with your comment about people like that having beautiful children while we struggle - seems grossly unfair and I always find it somehow makes the whole thing worse. I used to have friends that keep saying what great parents we would make and how it would be criminal of us not to have kids - of course now that seems terribly ironic as well!
Bailey and Lynn - I'm also hoping for the best this month, hubby gets home tomorrow which is right on CD13, I'm hoping with AF turning up on CD26 the last couple of months that maybe the timing is right??! I will also be applying Bailey's advice of keeping my fingers crossed and legs open!! Provided he's not too tired after flying home from Hawaii!!:pray:
On a more serious note - I know this is a bit personal, but I struggle constantly with the hubby when I tell him we really need to make a baby at a particular time, it's like as soon as that's mentioned it's too much pressure and he's too tired or just doesn't want to - it's so frustrating as it's not like he has the hard part of the deal!! I should be fair, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it does I just want to cry because I'm scared that will be the one time we could have conceived..
Hello to everyone else, Mel was Music and Lyrics good? I'm not 100% sure about going to see it so would like to know what you thought...
xxx
The angry woman is back! :angry:
Thank you to everyone that posted to me. Sorry I couldn't reply yesterday or write any more details, I was just so upset.
I know that OPK are not always accurate so I am also doing maybe baby, checking CM and my temps. Well maybe baby never tells me that I am about to O, even last month when I did (eventually!!!), CM is hard - it always looks the same to me :confused: and my temps have been around the same temp all month (except the day that it dropped) but the all important rise in temps has not happened :wall:
I saw my ob yesterday and I said that I thought Clomid was supposed to help me and he said that it is. He sent me to have a BT because he said that sometimes temps can be wrong and I may have O'd. He has now referred me to a fertility specialist and while this should be a good thing I am just so upset about it. I can't believe I have to go through all of this again to fall pg. I thought that after you had a baby, this was your best chance to fall pg - your body is cleaned out and it is your most fertile time. I know that it hasn't been that long since I had Cooper but what upsets me the most is that my body isn't working properly (whatever that is!). I thought that after I had Cooper I would go back to cycles that weren't so long and that it would be easy to track. Without the help of OPK and all the other tests I just don't know when I am O'ing, if at all.
I rang up to see when I could see the FS and they told me 5 March - that is 2 weeks away!!!! I said that I urgently needed to see him so they got me in today at another office. DH is meeting me there which is good because I think I will just be a blubbering mess. I will ask for a scan today to find out what the hell is going on!!!!! We are keeping up the bding but as today is CD22 and I'm told to start on CD10 - well it is becoming a bit of a chore and my poor DH.................god only knows what he is thinking! He has been so good - I kept apologising to him yesterday because it is hard when I am the one with the problem and keep blaming myself for this whole thing, including losing Cooper. He always manages to make me smile even in the worst times. When I told him that i was seeing a FS today, he smiled and said are we going to have 6 babies!!!!! I smiled and said does it really matter now - we are only asking for one but if we get more we can't complain! Then he started looking for new cars!
Sorry for being selfish and not doing any personals. I will come back later this afternoon and let you know how I went and do personals then.
P.S. Deb I could never tell you to go away. Your advice is always so helpful - thank you :hug:
Oh Lynn :hug: :hug: :hug:
I am so so happy you are seeing a specialist and good on you for insisting it be sooner. (a woman after my own heart!) I will be checking in frequently this afternoon to hear how it went. Since we said goodbye to our son in March 2006 my cycles are woopy without the clomid. My hunch is that you may need an increase dose of the clomid.
I know that many people say that opk's aren't accurate but just like you my cm is hard for me to recognise - mainly I think because we are doing the deed as well around that time. Many people need to do opk's a couple of times a day to get a positive.
Like you on my first round of clomid we did the deed from cd12 and I didn't get a positive opk until cd21 so it was getting pretty damn ordinary by the end. I am sorry that this is happening but it is great that hopefully by this afternoon you will have a few answers. :hug:
Hiya ladies
Mel: Ok, DH's ex has formally taken on psycho status!! How difficult it must be for you and DH trying to do the best thing by the kids and then getting such mixed confused messages from her. I think what you have decided to do is the best thing. Stick to the court orders and if she tries to negotiate again, tell her that it is non-negotiable. You must be angry about the school sores, they are contagious. Does she go to daycare? I wouldn't be surprised if the daycare teachers call her if they are obvious. I hope she gets better soon for her sake and yours.
Lynn: I hope your appointment went well today with the fertility specialist. I want nothing more for you than your body to behave itself and for you to get a BFP. I don't know if there is anything I can do but if you want to hang out on Thursday I have the day off work. I have an appointment in the morning but I am free after lunch. Big :hugs: to you and DH.
Mish: About your DH, I sort of experienced the same thing. DH felt like he was a turkey baster. I think we just expect that because they are men they will be up for BD'ing whenever. At one stage DH said, what if I demanded sex from you and you said no and I cried, how guilty would that make you feel. He was right, it was an unfair thing to do but I was just so desperate. I think we have to remember that although the might not show it as much, BDing is more than just getting their rocks off and especially when you are TTC. I found that if I didn't let DH know where I was in my cycle and just went with the flow it took the pressure off.
Bailey: I am so sorry that you got upset when you got home on Sunday. It is so emotionally exhausting but it is also such a blessing that we have wonderful caring friends to share the load. I hope you are feeling better today.
Flowerchild, Scarlet, Tess and everyone else, hope you are well, take care my sweeties.
Well me, just had my scan and bub is growing well with a strong heartbeat. The other thing that I am really happy about is that my BP is back down to 120/75. It was really high at the start of the pregnancy due to stress so I am happy with myself that I am naturally controlling it.
Luv Spring
So happy to hear that Baby Spring is bouncing along!!! I know the relief and the smile that comes with those great scans. YIPPPEEEEE
Mel, I am sorry that things are so rough with this woman. It sounds really hard. :hug:
Lynn, you have been in my thoughts all day. Please come and tell us how you are. :hugs:
Hi Ladies,
Thank you so much for your warm welcome. You are all amazing.
Lynn - sorry to hear about your frustration. I always used OPKs and they worked for me (I was very regular) but ever since the first m/c they just aren't reliable for me. Don't know why. But I still went to Priceline on my lunchbreak and dropped $20 on a new box :rolleyes: I hope your scan went well.
Mel - wow, DH's ex sounds like a psycho. I agree with the person who said stick to the court order. Sounds like the ex won't keep her promises, and sorry to hear about the little one. For what it's worth, if DH wants more time with the kids maybe you could apply for a variation to the custody order? Then the ex would have to comply. Sorry if I am butting in but I work in the courts so it's kind of my area .. anyways HTH.
Mish: about DH, well I guess they can all be like that. But since we are three-time losers (that is just my sense of humour, by the way) he is very cute keeping up with cycle days etc. Even so, the thing that used to work for me was silence. And then...start him up! You know, so he gets all hot and bothered but has no idea whether it is ttc time or not. :) Actually it took us eight months to get pg the first time, so I was thinking we might have problems in that area. But ever since we seem to get pg at the drop of the hat. But thank you for your message, it is nice to know there is someone experiencing the same thing as I am.
Sorry for the long post ladies. I just got word last night that my FS is referring me to the recurrnet m/c people at her clinic, so that is good news IMO. I don't know yet when I can get an appointment though.
Hey everyone,
Ok, just warning that this could be a long post.................
DH and I went and saw the FS this afternoon and I was soooooooooooo nervous. I told him about my cycle and how I haven't o'd yet and it is CD22. I told him that I o'd last month on CD22 but AF arrived on CD29 so not good. I told him that it took us forever to fall pg with Cooper and then how we lost him. He did a scan and said that there are some follicles there but they are small and I'm likely not going to O this month. He said that I definitely have PCOS which is not good hearing but in another way is because I kept getting conflicting answers from different obs. So yes I have it! Anyway he has put me on Metformin which is what I wanted so that is good. He said that this has nothing to do with why I lost Cooper but he is going to test everything so it can be ruled out. So I had a BT today (and they took half my blood!!!!) and I have to go back tomorrow for them to take the other half! Hopefully with all the tests they are doing we will be able to see what is happening and make a plan. We are seeing him again next Tuesday to get the results and to work out a plan. He said that we can try a cycle on Clomid and Metformin or we can do both of them and FSH injections. DH joked with the FS about buying a Tarago Van - how embarrasing!!!! This is supposed to be serious and he is joking about having 6 babies!!!!! I am just so glad that I am getting things moving now and didn't wait until next month. I know that it hasn't been long since I had Cooper but I am frustrated more that I am not o'ing because without this I can't have a baby. So hopefully with the FS, he can help make it happen :pray: I am just finding it so hard lately, not only grieving the loss of Cooper but also to go through the pain of not being able to fall pg.
Deb - thank you for your help and guidance and always thinking about me. Thank you for pushing me to have the scan done. I am so glad that I have so I know what is going on. Even though I won't be o'ing this month, at least there is a plan for next month :hug:
Nat - thanks for the chat and as always making me feel so much better. You are so knowledgeable and I appreciate everything that you have done for me. I should start to call you Dr Nat :D
Mel - my test junkie friend :) how are you going? How is your testing going? I hope so much that this is your month still. I guess I can stop testing this month........nah it gives me something to do each day! lol. And it will be interesting to see what happens and what the tests say should be happening. I'm so sorry to hear about DH crazy ex - what a psycho!! That is awful about the little girl and her sores - I hope they get seen to soon and she gets better. I hope this is all sorted out quickly because you don't need the ex's drama right now and she needs to look after her kids. You said it - life is cruel. It is just so unfair when there are some wonderful mums that don't have their babies and then there are mums that need lessons on how to look after their babies.
Spring - I am so happy that your scan went well and that your BP has come down. I hope you are taking it easy and resting.
Bailey - lol at the comment about open legs - can I close mine now!!!! I asked the FS today if we still needed to bd and he said it wouldn't hurt. I thought I was off the hook now!!! I am sorry that you got upset on Sunday when you got home. It was so great to meet you and Spring and to talk face to face about our lives and our precious sweet angels. I hope you are doing ok today. You are probably busy - isn't the day about now?
Jo - it is so wonderful to have you back. I have missed you. I understand that you needed your time and I hope you are feeling ok. I hope you managed to find a smile today. Stay with us - big hugs to you.
Mish - fingers crossed for you that DH isn't too tired when he gets home. Hopefully he gets home in time for the big day.
Tess - hope you are well. Take care.
Scarlet - welcome and I'm sorry that you have joined us but I hope that you can find love and support here. Welcome to the test junkie group!
A big thank you to everyone for supporting me over the last couple of days - I've been a bit of a nutcase but I appreciate everyone being there for me.
Take care everyone and sweet dreams
Hi Lynn
So glad that your appointment today was productive, I have been thinking about you and hoped that you would visit. The FS sounds like he is going to do every test under the sun which is great.
Lol about DH and the Tarago. In all seriousness though, I hope one day that becomes the biggest problem that you have, where on earth are you going to fit all those kids.
Well I hope they are kind to you tomorrow and don't take too much blood. I am so proud of you for being proactive and doing what you need to do to get the answers you deserve.
Huge big proud :hug:
Scarlet: I am glad that you have the referral to the recurrent m/c clinic. Hopefully they will help you find the answers so you never have to experience this pain again.
Night ni you little gems
Luv Spring
HI everyone,
Lynn - I am so sorry you are going through this, but I am glad you went to have the scan. I really hope the FS can help your cycle work itself out next month. LOL at the Tarago, DH and I joke about the same things seeing as he has 3 (all back seat age) and we want a couple of our own! My sis and BIL laugh at us all the time about it. I have continued with the testing but no O on test this month, I dont think I will do anymore this month though. I think I have though - mind you considering I truly believed I was pregnant last month we all know I obviously dont know my body all that well. Take care of yourself and I hope you get a good night sleep and can wake up feeling slightly better tomorrow morning :hug: LOL at the test junkie friend - its so hard to resist huh!
Spring - :happyforyou: that is wonderful that Spring Jnr is doing so well. How exciting you will have that little bubba in your arms before you know it. Oh and really glad you got your blood pressure down, well done! Have you overcome your white coat syndrome?
Scarlet - That's not a long post! Read mine LOL! I hope you get your appointment soon. Re DH getting a variation to the orders, we are trying to avoid anything to do with courts cause it cost us almost 8K to get the court orders put in place and it will cost us even more to get a variation. He is happy enough with the time he sees them, he just worries about them because obviously he cant get any straight answers from her. But I will try not to let her affect me, we have each other and whether she likes it or not the kids love their father (and me too to be honest). What an interesting job working in the courts, you must see alot of stuff - our problems would be mild in comparison LOL.
Mish - I hope DH has saved some energy for his return ;) Music & Lyrics was pretty good, definitely a bit of a chick flick but had some funny bits and I like both Drew Barrymore and Hugh Grant. Wow, he looks so old in it though! Even DH said it was ok (unless he was trying to be nice). Not the best movie I have seen, but enjoyable all the same - I am sure Gold Class helped a little.
Hi to everyone, hope you have a nice night. I have the day off tomorrow and an appointment at another agency. The girl from this place rang me today to ask when I could start working, I said I havent even met with you yet LOL!
Well sweet dreams to you all :)
Mel
Hey Mel - I totally forgot to even ask about your work. Have you finished up yet? Are you just going to do temping?
Thanks Spring. I hope we have a problem one day of not fitting all the kids in the car!
Hi girls,
Mel - I am sorry to hear the ex is still stark-raving mad. It's so sad that some mothers will use their kids in this way just to get at their ex's. I think that she is just doing all of this for attention from him. Poor kids. plus this is the last thing that you and DH need to worry yourselves about when there is lots of BD'ing to be done. I hope that it is all sorted out soon.
Lynn - I am so happy for you that you have gone to see the FS sooner rather than later, this will hopefully speed up your BFP. It must be good to know that you are now doing everything possible to get your bubs. It's great that you have the FS to help you make a plan.
Mish - I hope that your hubby wasn't too tired when he got home;)
Scarlet - Thats great you got your referral. I hope you get an appointment soon.
Spring - Glad to hear that Lil Spring is doing well and your BP is normal. It must be great to have such an understanding OB and to get all of those scans watching your cute little blob getting bigger (he/she looks just like you by the way :))
Well guys, I am ok. I was just a little sad on sunday cos to hear about your little angels from you was just so hard. I don't talk much about it cos I don't want to get upset or upset family or friends by opening up, so it was kind of strange to really be able to talk about it all iykwim. It was really good though, it felt good to purge it without worrying about upsetting anyone, and especially to people who really understand. So thanks again.
I am attending the SANDS support group tommorrow with my friend that I told you guys about (for those who don't know, a friend of mine lost her beautiful little man in december) so I will let you know how it goes. I hope they don't make you talk if you don't want to?? Not sure if I will feel like telling my story at the first meeting...we'll see.
On another note, I am pretty sure that I O'd yesterday, or last night. We haven't done any BD'ing since Sunday night as I thought I would just try to increase my chances of having a girl. We decided we would try it that way just once to see if it worked. Have thought alot about the boy/girl thing alot over the last few days, and I can honestly say that I want a little girl not to replace Asha, but to give me a little hint to see what she would have looked like as she grew. Of course I would be happy with whatever sex we had, as long as it was healthy, but I think it would be nice to have her little sister. I hope that all doesn't sound too weird, I am finding it hard to put what I mean into the right words.
I hope everyone is well and :bluedust: to you all.
Hi Lynn,
Nah I havent finished up yet - Thursday 1st March is my last day and I am counting down the days :D Its exactly 6 working days, and then a whole week off. The lady from the agency I saw the other day thinks she can get me heaps of work at the Western Hospital which is only about 15-20 mins away from where I live... beats an hour travel into the city everyday!
Mel :)
Hi Bailey, we must have posted at the same time.
I dont know why she would want his attention, they cant stand each other! She definitely doesnt get in the way of BDing though, we have been very "active" this month cause I want (and need without being a drama-queen) so badly this month.
I hope it goes ok at SANDS tomorrow. I havent been but from what I have heard you can go a hundred times and not speak if that is what you want to do. I am so sorry to hear your friend is going through this as well, it is so unfair :hugs: to both of you.
Mel
Hey Mel,
Just on your DH's ex, my uncle's ex wife did very similar things, and although I don't think she wanted to get back together with him or really even liked him, she definetly hated the fact that he had moved on and I think she just hated not having his attention. So everytime things were going well and everything was quiet, she would start
up some kind of drama with the kids, like just messing with the visitation days etc. It was so sad as it was the kids that suffered because of her. Maybe attention isn't the right word, maybe she just likes to be in the middle of a drama. Well, I am so glad this hasn't affected your :bd: <------lol, I just love that one, it just so cute!
Yeah you are probably right, also she is very controlling and it must kill her that she no longer has control over his life - according to him he used to give her her own way all the time during their marriage to save arguments, guess its hard for her that its no longer the case. I agree with you that its the kids who suffer, we are adults and can look after ourselves but the kids rely on the adults to keep them safe, I think both physically and emotionally so its really sad that this is happening to them. I often wonder what goes on at home and if they are ok, I hope she doesnt give them a hard time or try to manipulate them - but we will never know!
LOL at the icon, it is cute - almost rude but still cute :)
I meant to say before :stickyvibesgirl: for the daughter you wish for.
Mel - I am sure you and DH give those kids a stable and safe place to come to. Kids are smart too, they know that you guys love them, which is shown by the way that they run out to you when you go to pick them up....that to me says alot about their mother! It must be so hard for your DH to watch this. I just hope she gets over it soon, cos eventually it will come back and bite her in the butt!! Let's hope!
Thanks for the pink vibes! As I said, we did the timing thing just once, cos if a little pinky doesn't come, then she wasn't meant to and I will be happy with another little bluey too! Actually I'll take twins..one of each:lol: maybe I am just being greedy now.
When are you due to do a HPK?? I don't really understand them, but I think, according to my calculations (though they could be out...I was always pretty crap at maths) AF will be due on about 03MAR. Maybe I should post in the HPK thread...I am unsure when the earliest I can test is??
Hi again ladies,
Just wanted to let you all know that on Channel 10 news they had a story on a Natropath that has apparently helped over 5000 (i think) couple conceive. Someone has posted a link in the Music TV thread here
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/...ad.php?t=31356
I hope that link worked - I am not famous for my computer skills :rolleyes:
Are you meaning my AF? Mine is due on 5th March (which also happens to be Nicholas' 6 month anniversary so I dont know how I will cope if she shows up :cry:) So I guess that means I can start testing as of about 1st March. I might do my first test on 2nd March to celebrate my first day of unemployment LOL ;) I am not all that hopeful it will work this month, I havent had a positive OPK so not really sure what is going on, plus it hasnt worked any other month so dont really see why this one will be any different. I will try not to drive myself crazy with the HPT's but it is so hard.
...now seeing as you O'd yesterday shouldnt you be having an "early night" iykwim? :lol:
Ha!! Dp went to bed hours ago, he gets up at about 4am for work :( Just me and the internet now!
Yeah, I say do the test to celebrate being unemployed. I would put money on it that if you don't get a positive this time, you will the next time now that you have quit work. I didn't get a positive on the OPK either, but I just guessed from CM and slight cramping last night. As I said, fingers crossed! Just trying to be positive. But I will try not to get too worked up about it, it's only my first try. Hopefuly one of us in here will get a BFP though. We are throwing enough babydust around, someone is bound to get UTD.
My DH is sitting here playing a game on his laptop - so here I am LOL. But thinking I should probably get to bed soon god knows I need the beauty sleep, dont wanna look like crap tomorrow for this agency interview. I dont know about whether I will get a bfp in the next couple of months, I cant explain it but something is giving me the feeling its not gonna be that easy and that maybe there is something wrong - I am probably just being a worry wart though. It wouuld nice if we ALL got UTD soon, but I surely someone is bound to - there are enough of us trying.
Hi ladies
Gosh you guys can talk - I will try to catch up on personals later this afternoon when work slows down.
Just wanted to say 'good morning' to you all & welcome to Scarlet - sorry you have to be here, but I am glad you have been referred to the recurrent m/c team. I am sure they will be a great support to you too.
T.
What a mixed parcel we have had today... good news in getting appointments and testing happening, but as always the pain is there... SO huge hugs to everyone and a dump truck full of pink and blue baby dust for you all.
Sacrlet - not sure if I have welcomed you yet or given you may heartfelt commiserations for you loss.
Lynn - Metformin is a wonderdrug, IMHO... I know quite a few girls who have used it and have had H&H pg's without too much waiting. It seems to be the best option for PCOS. I am glad that your f/s is on the ball and has been able to already give you some answers. Small follicles are better than none at all... it just means that this month is for practice.. maybe next month but boy when they mature things will be looking great. Baby dust for you too sweety. OH and with PCOS, the low GI/low carb is the way to go as well. I'm sorry things have been so crappy lately. I'm sorry you even have to know me.. oops there I go being stupid again.
Mel - Partner's X's can really suck. I'm lucky in that mine only ever wanted to be my friend, my issues with her are due to the fact I think she neglects her child, oh and she is totally narcisistic (sp?) and only ever thinks of herself. She never tried to cause trouble like your x-factor does... just used to leave her special needs child on our doorstep (not even knowing if we were home) at any hour of the day and drive off before someone even answered the door. I'm going to email you a link for stepmums.. really helpful stuff... anyway details in the email.
(More a vent than any sort of coherant communication!)
OK rundown on my freak out...
I have been suppressing everything for a long time, well since I got pg with Bridie. Because I feel in the month after loosing an angel at 7w4d I hadn't really grieved, then because I was pg I felt guilty grieving as if it would harm the baby, then I found out that I was having twins, then I lost one.... anyway you get the idea.. I wouldn't let myself grieve my 2 little angels because I was worried it would affect te baby... fast forward to now, XP and I have seperated, I haven't told family and friends about my angels since B was born, or even before she was born... so I have been pretty much carrying things on my own. Then there have been all the medical conditions that I have to deal with since they started investigating why I my babies fly to heaven. OMG this is so disjointed.. well when I lost the twins I wasn't issued a birth or death certificate, just a medical record of an 'abortion', luckily I know this is the jargon talk for miscarriage or I would be a bigger mess... I never got to see my boys.. and then it seems that in other states I would have been able to bury/cremate their remains and yet I don't even know what happened to their little bodies... so I sort of lost it a bit. Sometimes I spend all my time dealing with everyone (family) elses problems and my dd's health problems (she isn't majorly ill or anything, just a few annoying helth concerns) and being a working single mum that I juast don't deal with the me stuff. OK... none of this probably makes any sense.. its all over the place and crazy.. I think maybe it was just a vent.
Jo - please don't think that you are stupid. I appreciate everything you have said. I am sorry that I know all of you because I wish that none of us had to go through this, but having said that we are going through this and I am just so grateful that I have you all here to support me. I hope that talking about your babies, makes you feel a little bit better. When I first lost Cooper, I didn't want to talk about it and I said that no-one was to go into his room except my mum who i wanted to pack everything up and get rid of it. When I got home from the hospital the first place I went was his room. I just cried and cried and then I started to talk about him and what we had planned. To this day I talk about Cooper every single day and I know that is what gets me through. The fact that I talk about him, it is acknowledging him and that is what I want people to do. I didn't end up getting rid of anything because they were things bought for Cooper and they are still his things.
I am just so happy that you are able to talk to us about your precious angels. You need time to grieve and you need to grieve in your way. Any way is normal and you need to do what is right for you. If you don't feel right in talking to your family and friends about your angels, you know that we are all here to listen and would love to hear about your angels. I notice that you now have names in your sig - that is beautiful.
I hope that you are able to get some answers as to why you lost your angels. I'm sorry that you weren't given a birth certificate or the opportunity to bury your babies. Are you able to apply for a birth certificate? I'm not sure if they do it, but perhaps you could ask. I was devasted when I received Cooper's birth certificate but now I treasure it because it is another thing that acknowledges he was born.
I know that you have Bridie to look after and you need to help her with her medical issues but perhaps you need to look after yourself as well. I'm sure you family will understand that you need to do this. I can't imagine what it is like to be a single mum but I hope that you have lots of support around you. It is good to vent, so please feel free to do it anytime because we are here to listen and help you.
I hope you are feeling ok today. Big hugs to you :hug:
Bailey - I was so glad on Sunday when you did open up and talk to us about Asha. I know that you don't talk about her a lot here and that is totally up to you but it was nice to hear you talking about her on Sunday. You know that we are always here to listen when you do want to talk about her. I'm sure your family and friends would understand if you did get upset when talking about her. I know that sometimes when I talk about Cooper I upset other people, but I need to talk about him, it is what gets me through each day. It is my sisters birthday and on her card I wrote Cooper's name on it. I sat for ages wondering if I should put it on the card and then I decided to because he is my son and he is part of our family. When she read the card she got upset but she said thank you for including Cooper it means so much to me.
It is completely ok for you to want another girl and we all know that it isn't to replace Asha because you can never replace her. I know exactly how you feel. I know that I have said that I think having a girl next would be easier because I wouldn't compare her to Cooper as much but I would like another boy. But whether it is a boy or a girl it is going to be hard. So like you, I really really don't care what I have. As long as I can have one (please!!!!! :pray: ) It is hard to put it into words without people taking it the wrong way but I know what you mean. I hope that you caught the eggie and this is your month. Fingers crossed and I hope the golden pig is on your side! He isn't on mine at the moment so he must be with someone. Sending you heaps of pink baby dust
Let us know how you went with the support group.
Mel - I'm sorry that you are going through all of this with DH's ex. I hope it eases off soon. Take care babe :hug:
Deb - are you out there???????????? Would love to hear from you.
Well I went to have another BT today and when I got there they told me I had to be fasting! Well I did ask yesterday and they told me that I didn't have to be :rolleyes: So I now have to go back to tomorrow. You should see my arms! I have brusies and needle marks all over them - what will people think!!!!!
Hi to everyone else - hope you are all well.
Hi all you great women,
Boy I think I have been reading for about an hour to just catch up! Great to hear all the great things of appointment and getting some answers, but some troubled times past.
Mel OMG what a witch! I hate when they play with the kids heads,Im so sorry that both you , DH and the kids have to go through this, sometimes it would be just great if people like he just fell of the face of the earth, I know kids need there parents and all but its sort of emotional abuse-its so not fair. How did your interview go?
Lynn Dr Nat is going a bit far! I should finish uni and med. but my family comes first, Im only glad you have been able to get some answers and look forward to that baby in your arms VERY SOON you just wait and see.
Bailey I hope you get a big fat BFP and covered in pink an added extra! sending lots of it your way :stickyvibesgirl:
Spring Wonderful news on your scan, even though I have not been here Ive been thinking about you and praying all is going well, so a big congrates on that scan and little spring growing, before you know it ther will be sleepless nights, nappies the lot!!!
Deb Hows it all going with the TTC? I hope your well.
Jo Great to see you back, sorry that things are so hard at the moment I do hope that things start to get sorted and you feel a little soon.
Scarlet I glad you have found us and only hope that you can find some comfort and at least a good place to vent!!! Good luck with all your test, I know it can seam like a pain but when you do fall again if they do find things you can rule out and feel more confident about the pregnancy. I am sorry that your babies had to leave to soon.
To all you other wonderful women, Hi and I hope you are all well, I still need to read through again to see what I have missed! good luck with BDing and TTC I sending loads of babydust to all of you.:bluedust: (Oh both boy and girls by the way!) xxx
Oh and Lynn "What the" with the fasting, can these people not get it right! When do you see the FS next?
One thing I have learnt is to get a second option! I know one person tells me not to fast and the next tells me to :rolleyes: Oh well, back tomorrow to give more blood. I don't think I have any left!!! I see the FS next Tuesday and hopefully he will have all my results from all this blood........any hopefully a good plan to kick my body into action.
At least I will be prepared when the wicked witch arrives this month :( I just want it to hurry up so I can start on next month.
Hi gorgeous ones,
I am here I am a bit under the weather today. I have a sinus infection and feel pretty ordinary.
Lynn I saw your news and my head hurt too much to reply earlier! I am so very happy that you have some answers. At least now you know what those ovaries are up to. They will come up with the goods and it's great that you have had some active help. I am sorry taht you couldn't get your bloods done today and that your arms are looking worse for wear. I have to admit to ahving a giggle about the Tarago! We have a four wheel drive and I would love a Tarago!!!!! Our 4 wheel drive is only 7 seats and I want twins next time so maybe I just might get my wish!!!!!
Nat - So beautiful to hear from you again. How are you????
Sorry gals but I have to go now and blow my nose! :hug:
Oh Deb you poor thing. I hope you are feeling ok. I hope you get your twins very soon! Being a twin myself, I think they are fantastic - lol!!!!
Oh Deb I hope your feeling better soon, you have to so you can at your prime to receive the eggies!!
Im doing OK, well thats what I keep telling myself! I went with one of my close girlfriends today as she is 5.5weeks is seeing Dr S and has had some problems, the sadest thing is the sack is only at 4w, no FP and prog low. I think maybe a miscarriage is going to happen, DrS has done more BHcgQ so will know tonight or in the morning. You know I only wish I could take her pain away and make it better.........I can only help her to get threw it and be there I suppose.......God why does this have to happen to the good mums?
Im sorry for such bad news. Im just glad I can be there for her I only hope it can help her and know she is not alone in this rough road of life.
Its things like this that make it so raw for me, today I should have been 23w and seeing him for all the right reasons how ironionic (????) I am however seeing him next week for me, I need to know where he thinks we should go from here and why I havnt fallen again I mean I do sort of know why but just need to go through it all with him an make some plans for the next 3-4 months or cycles(which I think sounds sooner!!!) And if after that where do we start with our next step. We did talk today about me after (I got a free consult!) so he has a week to get me some answers.......I bet he cant wait till then!!! Anyway I could go on and on about me BUT Im a little over it and Im sure you all are too. So Deb I want you to work very hard on BFP...... where are you in your cycle? are you taking blood thining drugs/inj? and are you on 20mg pred.? so many question but only give me an answer once your feeling better. Oh yeah the pred. makes you get very run down and so much harder to fight off anything, I just found boosting up on vit c helped and making sure I eat lots of fresh fruit and vegies which Im sure you do. Hope you can get some rest.
Lynn Sorry I do remember you saying it was next Tue......brain like a sieve sometimes!
HI Nat,
I am so so sorry about your friend. She is lucky to have your love and support. It is tough on you helping someone else through the pain, however it can also be healing. You are a wonderful person. :hug:
My period is due today and I expect it later this evening. My husband has to go to Europe next week and is trying very hard to return on Thursday the following week (my cd15/16) and if this is the case that he can arrange that then I will take clomid this month. If not then I won't. On Clomid I usually ovulate around cd17-22!!! So, I am hoping that he can arrange things. I am hoping even more that my period holds off until tomorrow which would be perfect for Chris's trip. Can you believe how we have to work things???? I am still on my 20mgs of Prednisone and low dose asprin. I will commence clexane from a positive hpt. So, I enter this next phase with lots of optimisim. I look forward to hearing what Dr S says next week. Did you see the article re: him in New Idea? My "mum" cut it out and gave it to me. About a woman with recurrent loss and he treated her and viola!!!
Thinking of your friend :hugs: