thread: Reasonable Overtime?

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  1. #1

    Jun 2010
    District Twelve
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    My DP works similar unpaid hours overtime, as did I with my former employer. We both work in senior roles and it's expected.

  2. #2
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    Jan 2009
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    Is he on a salary? I personally don't consider double the normal hours reasonable overtime.....maybe I am naive. It sounds to me like a good way to have people work twice as much as you have to pay for them to be there. So he doesn't get paid overtime rates or doesn't get paid at all for anything over 7.6hours?
    You say he is on more than the award, but is he on double the award? Cause in reality that's what they are getting out of him.

    And it is against the law to expect anyone to work above a six hour shift without at least 30 minutes (unpaid) break. You are also entitled to 2x10 min (paid) breaks if you work over those 6 hours. I don't believe it matters what industry you are in, as far as I am aware they are standard fairwork requirements.

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    Oct 2012
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    You say he is on more than the award, but is he on double the award? Cause in reality that's what they are getting out of him.
    Yes, this! If he's not on double the award, then I'd contact the fair work ombudsman. I don't know anyone who would consider working double the contract hours (on a day to day basis) to be reasonable.

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    haha, yeah its definitely not double the award thats for sure.

    Well it looks like he is going to resign soon. They have lost two employees, and instead of hiring more, they have been told that they need to absorb the extra hours themselves. This will be including the casuals and the part timers. So the hours are just going to increase. They have already cancelled his holidays that he had already started. He got home last night at 11pm, and he started work this morning at 5:30, today he will more than likely work straight through and not get home til 10 tonight. Im not thinking that this is reasonable overtime? Regardless of the industry.

    He sat down with the boss and well she is on the war path because she didnt get a promotion she went for, so the rest are copping the flack for her failure. So nothing has been discussed, nor changed. The plan is to put the resignation letter in later this week. And then hope he can find something somewhere before too long.

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    Dec 2007
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    Good for him!
    If this is their plan for the future, then they won't get very far - and it is certainly not reasonable to continue to increase the hours without remuneration.
    I hope he can find something else really soon, I doubt he will have much trouble.

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    Just an update, Dh resigned last week. He already has a new job to go to, which is more money and definitely less hours.

    Last week he was processing the pays. When he had finished his, he realised that he gets paid for a 38hr week, yet his total hours for the fortnight was 148hrs. Almost double what they pay him for. So he gets paid for 76 hours a fornight, and he totalled 148hrs. Im having a guess but I think that is no where near the mark for reasonable hours. Also they said that they arent hiring any new staff until the federal election has been held. Cause that makes a whole heap of sense.

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    Dec 2007
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    Just an update, Dh resigned last week. He already has a new job to go to, which is more money and definitely less hours.

    Last week he was processing the pays. When he had finished his, he realised that he gets paid for a 38hr week, yet his total hours for the fortnight was 148hrs. Almost double what they pay him for. So he gets paid for 76 hours a fornight, and he totalled 148hrs. Im having a guess but I think that is no where near the mark for reasonable hours. Also they said that they arent hiring any new staff until the federal election has been held. Cause that makes a whole heap of sense.

    Ah nowhere near acceptable! Good on him for resigning.
    How did they take that news? LOL