Babies Born April 2008 #3

hi everyone

for those interested in poo - as tragic as that sounds! - i saw the paed today and she said that all shades of mustardy yellow, khaki and bright green are normal. she explained that the colour has to do with bile in the stomach and the amount of time that the milk remains in there for. dd's poo is green in the day and yellowy at night, when she poos less often. she said the thing you need to look out for is pale poo. as for the blood, this is a bit of colitis which could be a reaction to milk products in my diet. but since it's not causing her any discomfort she felt that cutting it out completely would be pointless.

fire your bub's waking/sleeping times don't sound all that different from my dd's. she basically sleeps a lot, especially if carried in my hug-a-bub-type-sling. she can go hours in that thing! how do you get your ds down at night? does he transfer from sling to bed? i have trouble with that in the day - in fact i can't do it at all.

sarah glad to hear you have a plan of action with your dh.

grubi sorry to hear you're feeling so bad - it does wear you down, all the work you do as a mother. as for settling - you should be able to change the way you do that later; don't give yourself extra challenges at a time when things are tough. go easy on yourself!

sharon :hug: to you. maybe you can go to a mums and bubs session? i keep meaning to do that but have to find a way to offload my son first.

hey am i the only one here with a fantastic MIL?!

Sarah I had my DD in a carrier at the movies and she slept through. The mums with prams seemed to have more difficulty - guess it depends on whether the sounds will invoke startle reflex.
My DH helps out heaps, my issue is that he goes out nearly every night of the week if you include the gym as going out. He waits until we go to bed before going for social life, so it was just me feeling unloved and like everyone else comes before me, including the kids.
Fire that was our house yesterday, must be something in the air.
My back at the base of my neck is killing me from holding Greer and typing one handed most of the day - ebay listing.
Nettie hope I can try that clothes thing tonight and it work.

Thanks Fire
Looks like Ci and Hunter are on the same stuff. Yes, orange mustard with spinich flecks! Yum yum!:rofl:
Very reasuring!

LisyLee: Their is not point making MIL life easier when they don't attempt to help you.

I am very passionate about my dislike for my SIL and MIL.

MIL hurt DH when she left his dad and took his sister but not him. Of course I don't know the full story of it 'cos DH wont talk about it (to painful I think).

SIL well she was trying to work her way up in the food chain, I should say their father's Will. The man in only in his 50's and fit and healthy. Beside DH get's the family farm when he dies his dad has already told him. SIL get's nothing 'cos she went with her mother, and had little contact with her dad when they left...

So can you just picture Christmas time?? It’s so warm and loving. Me I make fun about SIL which make her uneasy she has doesn’t have a lot of confidence in her self as always think there more going on then what she’s been told.

However as you can no doubt tell I am person who tell it how it is not how it could be. Well I am not going to make their life easier. They have irritated me, so now to get in my good books you will have to do something pretty amazing to get back into them. Not even death will get there.

Well better go, its baked bean on toast for kids tonight.

Cheers
Sarah

Hi all,
Just popping in to let you know BJ was a trooper with his needles...big cries for about 30sec after each and that was it...he's been very unsettled though (however, he's been unsettled for a couple of days now so not too concerned).

The past 3 nights he's done really well, feeding sometime between 9:30pm and 10pm, then not waking til about 3-3:30, settling himself, then stirring about 4-4:30, re-settling, then waking for a feed at about 5:30.
I've been sleeping in the spare room, next to his, in the hope of getting him out of the middle of the night feed quietly, rather than 2 stirrings!
However also sleeping down there cause DH and I have had a few arguements and its best to stay out of his way and let him sleep...he's not a baby person, he's a toddler and older person, so this being a daddy to a baby bit is really hard for him....
Oh well...we soldier on.

Hey grubi,

I will try my ergo and hope he will sleep. He does love being held until he is asleep so hopefully it work a treat at least for an hour and a half.

Oh, me feel unloved too esp when I do get out to see the real world. DH's can still do their things at night. which gets to me at times, when all I want to do it talk to him and be close to him. My DH's work friends asked us to go out for dinner, but their kids have all grown up, but we are just starting with our. I think he thought I might say you go by yourself i'll stay home with kids. But not this time, I said right oh, will get sitter for DD and DS and we will take Wyatt with us, for an early dinner.

Sometimes its not easy being us.

Wyatt sleep alot better on his tummy during the day then on sides. At night he's good, bt during the day will put him on tummy. Does anyone else's baby like this?

Sarah

Lisylee I was told that green specks/green poo is totally normal..its from iron in the milk.

We had a horrible day yesterday, and sort of today too. Isabell gets really unsettled now in the afternoons, screaming her lungs out. Not hungry, not nappy, i think over tired and worked up, or maybe wind pain, even though i burp her for close to half an hour after each feed. She slept REALLY well last night, put her to sleep at 9:30 and she didnt feed again til 1:30am then 7am and then midday..

Thanks MGM for poo info :)

Does anyone know if you should stop BF if you get mastitis - I think I have it, just mild ATM, but thinking I should stop BF might be why she has been so unsettled.
We both have low grade fevers and my breast is warm to touch and tender in one small area which has just started to redden.

alittlegrubi I can't remember who suggested it, but one of your shirts/tops that you have worn (the smellier the better:p) placed in the cot/bassinette may help bubs to settle. I read somewhere that you should stop feeding from the breast that you have the mastitis in but I am sure that a BF expert on here will confirm or deny that lol, hope it gets better soon.
Danielle we are going ok, just plodding along really. How are you going?
Jodie82 will check out your pics after I have posted.
sarah_dobbo2 don't know when DH finds out if he has made it to second round interviews, if he does make them they want him to go to the island so he can have a guided tour. As for the movie, looks like I am going on Monday, will go into more detail at end of post. My eldest son (19) would only ever sleep on his stomach, day and night, but that was before they associated SIDS with tummy sleeping.
Nettie I agree that this group is huge, and it's really difficult doing personals for everyone.
Fire I've heard the Medella breast pumps are excellent, I think they are the brand that most hospitals use and recommend.
mgm I normally wouldn't mind going to a mums and bubs session, but for some reason I really wanted to share this movie with a bunch of GF's.
BabyWrangler yay, way to go BJ, at Paed's today he checked Oliver's hips and told me (and him) it would probably hurt, he didn't flinch one bit, Dr asked him if he liked pain LOL
MummyMeg I have always been told that it isn't completely necessary to 'burp" bubs after a feed unless they really need it. Hope you managed to get some sleep in when Isabelle had her long stretches of sleep.

Well I had a really good day today, my BF came over (as is usual for a tuesday morning) and brought with her the usual can of coke and a cream bun (our weekly indulgence) and I was telling her how upset I was that I was missing out on seeing the movie with her, she immediately turned round and told me she wasn't going to go with everyone else, she would pull out (even though she was the one that suggested the whole thing), she was adamant and she even made me go and book tickets for us on the Monday instead, she said that if she can't get out of it with the other girls then she will see it twice, when I asked her 'what if it's crap' her reply was 'i'll just bring a pillow and a blanket'. Then at school pick up today, I was driving to school and one of the mums called me and told me to park my car in carpark and she would collect Jordan and walk him over to me so that I didn't have to get Oliver out of the car in the pouring rain, the generosity of some people continues to amaze me.

Oliver went really well last night, his last feed was at 10.30 (sneaky feed as usual) and he slept through till 6am, the only bugger about it is that I had problems falling asleep last night so didn't feel the full benefit of it. We went to Paed today and he told me I could increase his zantac to twice a day and if needed 3 times a day. I told him I was concerned that he may not be eating as much as he needs (CHN said 150ml / Kilo of body weight) he said that was just a guide, he then said 'look at him, he is a big boy, he's a piggy' so i feel happier about that, he checked his feet and said that they where now perfect (phew), he has put on 1kg since birth, so he is now 5.84kg.

OK, essay now over! sorry to anyone i've missed but there is just so many of us in here it is so hard to keep up.

Edited to add, that it took me so long to complete this post that I had to log back in again due to innactivity :lol:

just a quicky, poor Bj's temp went up a little due to his needles, but, after his 4 hour nap and a big feed, he was chatting away and smiling at us, despite his temp being above 38!
A dose of panadol had it back down to 37.1 within 45 minutes and he's off to bed again, and so am I.
On a poo note, he's been screaming in pain with poos for a few weeks, and had still been on the lactulose.
MCHN suggested trying more water (we'd tried that before but it was so hard to get into him and he kept spitting it out so it didn't work).
Some watered down breast milk last night and today has helped, and he just took 10ml of water by itself (he only needs an extra 10-30ml a day to help, so we are well on the way).
I'm off to bed now but will try and do personals in the morning...sorry!

Grubi: I had it with DD, and NO you should still feed from that boob, or milk will get all back up and really hurt you. You will def know if it is mastitis, as it will become RED where it is sore and really hurt when she lacks on.

The more Geere drinks the better for you.. That or put cabbage leave on it, if it hurt really bad or get's really hard or full.

Let me know how you go.

Cheers
Sarah

sarah_dobbo2 I knew i'd probably got the information wrong, will keep my mouth shut from now on about anything to do with BF.

Oliver was really 'noisy' from about 4am onwards, he wasn't crying, just grunting and groaning, and he had managed to escape from his wrap, so both his arms where out, I left him until 5am when I then got up and gave him a feed, but he wasn't really interested in it so I probably could have let continue with his grunting and groaning, only
thing is it would have kept me awake anyway. While I was on my way back to my bedroom, I was walking with my eyes half closed (as you do when you're tired) and I walked into the wall, I hit my head that hard that my teeth crunched together.

Oliver's routine seems to be:

Feed 6am ish straight back to bed
Sleep from 6.30 to 9am (this is when the morning drop off usually happens unless DH does it for me)
Feed 9am
Play till 10am
Sleep from 10 to 12.30
Feed 12.30
Play till 1.30
Sleep 1.30 to 3.30/4.00 (this is when we do the afternoon pickup)
Feed 3.30
Play 3.30 to 5
Bath 5pm
Feed 5.30pm (usually just a top up)
Bed, then a sneaky feed at 10.30pm

He is definitely having more awake times, and yesterday he was definitely chatting away, and enjoying lying on his mat looking at his toys dangling in front of him. We are also getting a few more smiles too, just not been able to catch any of them on camera.

Sharon: I'm not saying I am right either, however that was the advice midwives gave me, as I only BF DD for 2 weeks before I got it.
Everyone's option/advice can only help other.

Morning all!
Well, I know its cause of the needles and the dose of panadol as a result of a temp, but my little fella went 9 hours last night...
We popped him into bed at 10pm, and at 7:10 I woke with a start and thought something was horribly wrong, but right on que a little noise form next door made me relax!

He had a big feed (I'd had to pump 300ml out first because I would have drowned him!), and was back into bed at 8:15.

His routine prior to his festy weekend, and his needles used to be:
Feed 6am ish straight back to bed
Sleep from 6.30 to 9am
Play till 10am
Feed 10am
Play til about 11 or 11:30
Sleep til about 1:30
Play till 2pm
Feed 2pm
Play (or muck around in bed!) til about 3:30 or 4
Sleep til 6 (woken up by 6:30)
Feed 6pm
Bath about 7pm
Feed (just a top up) about 7:30 if not totally ready for bed

I used to go in for a sneaky feed at about 10pm, but found it made no difference overnight, he would still wake about 2am anyway, whether he had it or not!

Before his festy weekend he'd changed a bit and would sleep from 8pm til about 3:30am, then either resettle until 5:30, or feed, then sleep through til about 8.
Then I would feed at 8ish, and then top up at 10, then he would go 4 hourly at 2 and 6.

mgm, we carry him through his naps, cos sometimes we go shopping etc, or just keep busy so napping in a bed isn't convenient. Jungle baby is keeping me fit! But sometimes I really want a break and in those times it's best I give him to DH as he can put him to sleep (or keep him asleep) without the sling, just on his chest and then he is easily transferred to the couch (we don't have any baby gear like cots). But he doesn't last as long at all usually. I use the sling and bounce on the fit ball (to see it in action, see video on my blog - sitting at computer on fitball just like I am now. I was pregnant and in labour at the time though :lol: but it seems my pregnant use of the fit ball triggered him, he now is put to sleep in 10 minutes flat on this thing!). But at bedtime, I usually have arsenic hour, so I go and sit on the rocking chair while he wails his woeful tale at me for a while, and I occasionally offer a finger to suck or a boob but he usually rejects it all in preference for a cry. When he's worn himself out, but still crying, I hand him to DH who has the magic touch. I PREFER to boob him to sleep on the bed or in the rocking chair, but with this colic/arsenic hour bullcarp, I have to wait it out, about 3 months they stop with that nonsense. Then I'll just boob him to sleep in my bed and sneak away. DH holds him in his lap all night, until midnight or so, so I can sleep. This allows him to resettle easily and comforts Ci. DH brings him to me at his post-midnight feed and he just stays asleep dreamfeeding all night. If he was a bottle baby or in a cot, I know for sure he would be a nightmare, I don't know what I'd offer him through the night to keep him down!

in a nutshell, if desperate, we use the fitball and bounce with him. I find it too hard to get out of the HAB sling without waking him.

Haven't had time to read other posts yet...

mgm, we carry him through his naps, cos sometimes we go shopping etc, or just keep busy so napping in a bed isn't convenient. Jungle baby is keeping me fit! But sometimes I really want a break and in those times it's best I give him to DH as he can put him to sleep (or keep him asleep) without the sling, just on his chest and then he is easily transferred to the couch (we don't have any baby gear like cots). But he doesn't last as long at all usually. I use the sling and bounce on the fit ball (to see it in action, see video on my blog - sitting at computer on fitball just like I am now. I was pregnant and in labour at the time though :lol: but it seems my pregnant use of the fit ball triggered him, he now is put to sleep in 10 minutes flat on this thing!). But at bedtime, I usually have arsenic hour, so I go and sit on the rocking chair while he wails his woeful tale at me for a while, and I occasionally offer a finger to suck or a boob but he usually rejects it all in preference for a cry. When he's worn himself out, but still crying, I hand him to DH who has the magic touch. I PREFER to boob him to sleep on the bed or in the rocking chair, but with this colic/arsenic hour bullcarp, I have to wait it out, about 3 months they stop with that nonsense. Then I'll just boob him to sleep in my bed and sneak away. DH holds him in his lap all night, until midnight or so, so I can sleep. This allows him to resettle easily and comforts Ci. DH brings him to me at his post-midnight feed and he just stays asleep dreamfeeding all night. If he was a bottle baby or in a cot, I know for sure he would be a nightmare, I don't know what I'd offer him through the night to keep him down!

in a nutshell, if desperate, we use the fitball and bounce with him. I find it too hard to get out of the HAB sling without waking him.

Haven't had time to read other posts yet...

good morning mothers and babies!

wow, babywrangler, you must feel well-rested!

fire we basically do much the same thing - i carry dd whenever she gets tired and throughout her naps (so walking down the road to do the shopping is easy, but getting round in the car is a more difficult proposition). i agree the major problem with the HAB is the difficulty (impossibility?) of getting a child out while still asleep. in the evening we swaddle dd and put her to sleep by carrying/holding her (often accompanied by much crying), then dh holds her while i eat dinner, have a shower etc. she will then go down in the bed ok. at night i bf lying down and she goes back to sleep right after (mostly) except in the early morning when she's terribly restless, kicking, grunting etc. i tried a fitball at my mum's the other day and it put her straight to sleep! i would get one, only we already have so much stuff in our little place we can hardly move without stubbing a toe or tripping over something. i would also love to bf to sleep in the day but she's just not into that... she loves her sling sleeping too much!

have no idea what our feed/play/sleep pattern is - or if there is any pattern at all. maybe i'll make a note of it today for interest's sake. at night i'm too out of it to work out what's going on when!

No, I'd love to bf in the day too but what's up with that? I've noticed the really new babies have a few things in common - trouble to get to nap, arsenic hour, all night feed marathons and that restless time before dawn. Just when I need to get up he falls asleep, about 7am! Little sod. From 5.30 or so onward, he just wriggles and grunts and carries on and I try to sleep through it but unless I'm really tired, I can't. Darnit all to heck. I guess it is another adjustment thing they'll grow out of.

sarah no, you are right, I 'googled' mastitis and it says to continue feeding from infected/sore breast.
BabyWrangler WOW what a great night, who cares if it was just because of needles, even a once off like that can be a well needed rest, just what we all need to feel refreshed.
mgm it has only been the last few days that I have noticed that it doesn't seem to matter what time he wakes for his early morning feed (4am, 5am, 6am) he then always seems to want to feed at 9am and then he tends to go 3-4 hourly between feeds.

Well, the little monkey is supposed to be having a sleep before his next feed but he is lying in his bassinette talking to himself, I am expecting it to turn into a cry VERY soon lol.

I feel so bored and lonely today, was supposed to go to lunch with DH but it is too cold a wet here in Sydney so we cancelled our 'date' :( . Anyway i'm off to put Oliver's plug in and see if he will have a little nap before his next bottle otherwise he will fall asleep drinking.

Thanks Sarah and Sharonfor responding, I ended up googling too Sharon and found some interesting stuff. Because the area isn't red, both breasts are hot and the pain seemed less after hand expressing the breast almost dry so to speak I felt much better, although the 2 nurofen may have helped and today it's only sore when full I think its probably a blocked duct or my body reacting to my stress over the weekend.
Sharon - you see you have good friends and acquaintances, sometimes we just can't see them through our emotional pains. I'm feeling more loved today.
The smelly clothes didn't work last ight or today.
Danielle - tried to do too much today - I went shopping, carrying Greer in a baby carrier and pushing a full trolley - bit tender tonight. I'm amazed that you would have been doing it for weeks already.
We don't have a sleep feed play routine. I'm feeling bad because I seem to spend most of my day holding Greer. She only likes to play for 5 minutes at the most unless I am holding her and interacting. Sleeping lasts max of 15 mins without being held during the day. Really need to work on that one. Maybe I need to try the fitball - might do the same as MGM and try out mums on Saturday whilst we are down there - she'll tell me to take it if it works.
Mum actually offered to have both kids on July 12th DH's birthday so we can have some adult time together without the kids. I love my Mum

Bj has had a good day today, he's usually a bit hard to settle...not hard exactly, but he'd take a long time, and we'd have to go in 9 billion times to put his dummy back in cause he'd spit it out then cry about it.
Last night, and then today also, he's been great, put him in, and straight to sleep...he starts to flail his arms around when he's tired, so as soon as he does it the first time, its nappy change, wrapped up and into bed.
We put him on his side with his anti-roll pillow (or as my DH calls it, the roll cage), and we put him in it in such a way that it holds his dummy in, only he always used to get around it, today though, no dramas.
His day today went like this:
Wake 7:30
Feed 7:35
Bed 8:30
Awake 11am
Feed 11:10
Awake til 1:30
Feed 1:35
Sleep 1:50
Awake 4:00
Feed 5:30
Bath 6:00
Bed 6:30

He's still asleep now, when he wakes will feed him again and go back to bed after that....who knows!!!

Howdy
Im getting my mole removed tomorrow, my pap done tomorrow, and having DD's 6w check up too..all at 8:30am, wish me luck :lol:
Isabell has been REALLY good for mummy today..she slept from 9pm last night til 4am this morning!! and then til 7:30..then 10am, then we played til 11:30am and she slept til about 1:30pm, feed, play then fell asleep til 6pm!! Then feed again and back to sleep..no sooking nothing..hmmm i wonder if this is going to keep up or if she is just being good for now lol.
Sorry i havent really read many of the posts, limited time on net tonight coz we want to get to bed relatively early tonight.

alittlegrubi I know I have some really great friends, it just hurts when there are others who I thought where also 'great' friends and they just don't seem to give a $hit, one of them I have been friends with since I was 11 and she has only seen oliver once and that was because I offered to go and pick her up and bring her over, she hardly said anything to me all day, was a real sad sack, DH drove her home, even fixed her washing machine for her (no thank you after) and she hasn't even replied to any of my text msg's.
BabyWrangler glad BJ is having good days, things here took a turn for the worse, Oliver was a little bugger all day.
MummyMeg good luck with everything tomorrow, i'm sure it will all go smoothly, even though it will probably be a terribly busy day.

Like I said to BW Oliver had a really bad day today, I am hoping that it was just because he was overtired (I think I missed his tired signs) but I was trying to keep him up longer as I kept trying to get a urine sample (pediatrician wants him to have one). So all he did today was catnap, he would be happy playing for about 15 mins each time he got up but then would get really grizzly, either that or he is coming down with something, I have just started to get over sore throat, so maybe that is it, either way I am hoping for a better day tomorrow, as we are going to watch Jordan in his school concert and want to be able to have my hands free to take some pics.

Off I go to Bedfordshire!

Yesterday was a bad day here too. DS sick and terribly grumpy; DD had only a few very short sleeps. As for the night - I can hardly bear to think about it. From 6pm to 11.30pm I was trying almost constantly to get her to sleep, punctuated by the odd feed and the occasional stint in her swing. Every time she'd start to drop off she would wake herself up. Weirdly in her waking times she was perfectly happy, but each time she got tired I'd have to endure the usual tired screaming fit. My ears are still ringing! DH and I took turns swapping between two crying kids. At 11.30 both were finally asleep and I could have dinner, but then DD woke up as soon as we put her in the bed. ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!

Have my checkup at the ob today. DD better behave herself! As for DS - he found a picture of a goblin in a book that bears an uncanny resemblance to my ob. I'm terrified he's going to mention it to her (and I don't think she'll see the funny side).

Hope you all had a better day/night than we did.

MummyMeg, good luck with your day. Hope all goes well.

Sharon have you asked your friend if everything is alright? Maybe she needs someone to talk to, is having a bad time, feeling alone etc. We tend not to want to be around people who are down, maybe everyone has deserted her and she is feeling down because you have Oliver. Just a thought! I however literally can count my friends on one hand and one is in Victoria so we rarely catch up.
We have our 6-8 week appointments today, like Meg I have pap smear, bubba check and my check, MCHN appointment and new parents group so gotta go get organised.
Have done the shopping so we are having family time tonight so I doubt I'll be back in until tomorrow.

:cryinglaugh: at MGM's concerns re DS and ob

Thanks for the routine posts. :) Is anyone finding getting them to nap is much harder now? What are you all doing to get them to nap? I just spent an hour, he wouldn't take to the fitball (two days in a row at this 10am nap), nor a walk, nor boob on the bed, nor finger, not even the dummy which I basically dusted off from it's ready-for-the-bin hidey hole. He just cries. finally the fitball/sling combo worked but I think it was more him being exhausted.

Wow BJ stunned me last night!
he went to bed about 6:30 was asleep til 11:15 and had a feed, asleep again at midnight...stirred at 3:30, dummy in, woke at 6:20 for a feed, then slept til 10:30am!!!

You have all got to read this, and that's and order!!

:lol:

But seriously, this was really really helpful...

Sleep Remedies

Wow Janine! That was a great article. It helps explain so much. Jack had a nightmare 'witchy hour' (more like 3 hours) last night. :wall: He had been so placid and calm all day despite going to the shops, mothers group, MCHN appointment, a photo session, and about 2 hours of play... then it all went down hill at about 5. So looks like we are having a stay-at-home with no visitors day today and letting things calm down.

Apart from yesterdays breakdown we are going well. Jack is smiling and giggling... not to mention that he has started to roll from his tummy to his back during tummy time. He like to roll towards whoever is closest and give them a big gummy grin! So cute!

Wow - this group is really getting big now. I'm totally lost for personals, but have been trying to read through and catch up. So for now I will just wish everyone lots of sleep and above all to have happy babies!:)

Thanks Janine(Fire) for sharing you researching. I've just emailed DH the how to calm baby bit and asked him to help me try to put it into practice, because I certainly need as much help as I can get with settling Greer. I have trouble wrapping her though as she wriggles so much that she even gets out of one of those snug as a bug things.
Had her weighed this morning with MCHN and she is 4.88kg that's up 620gms in 16 days. And they did her length this time - she has grown 3cm since birth and is now 55cm. She was long for her weight at birth. MCHN was concerned about her lack of sleep during the day, that she doesn't sleep for more than 45 minutes at at time before 2pm. Maybe she does whilst I'm holding her and I just don't notice it. She has an umbilical hernia. Otherwise all is well.

hey girls!

Just wanted to drop by and say hi, dont have much time to read through all the posts cause parents in law are here tonight.

alittlegrubbi: that is a fair bit of weight for Greer to have put on in that long... at least she is definitely thriving! Ryley has put on alot of chub now too he's 5.5kgs (4.9 when born) and he has grown 2 cms since birth and head 1 cm i think. Amazing how it seems like only little growth but when they are that little everyone notices the difference! Oh and as for the wraps to wrap bubs in... Ryley does the smae wriggles so much until hes out of it hes never really liked being wrapped tight since he was born which i also find strange! Hows the tummy feeling and your scar looking? my scabs starting to slowly come away now its fairly swollen above the scar on the inside of my belly thats where its most sore. Hey... hows your back from your needles and things? Mines still killing me! my back gets so sore I gotta lay down I get in that much pain around where I had my needles and it goes all through my back. Other than that I cant really complain.. yes im still sore but I did have an operation 7 weeks ago, so all in all things are healing over alot better than with my 1st one, and my tummy got better after bein on anti-biotics too.

So girls... what size are all our babies in now? Ryley was in 4X 0's when born for only like a week, then went to 3X 0's for about 2-3 weeks now he is in 00's!!!! hes growing up too quick I dont like it!!! he is 7 weeks old now smiling playing goo-gahing, starting to roll over on purpose now instead of out of temper hehe.

As for the sleep thing... Ryley stays alsleep from 8pm until 1 am then wakes for the rest of the whole entire morning!

If I cant get him to sleep I nurse him and pace the hall way only seem to have to walk the hallway twice and he's asleep. Otherwise he goes in his mobile electric swing, and within 10 secs hes out to it happily snoozing and swinging away.

Are there many out there who are having troubles with windy babies? My 1st was very windy Ryles seems to bring his up all on his own most the time, he sure does fart alot! and it doesnt normally take much to get his burps up sometimes he doesnt even need burping which i find quiet bizzare!

But this night time thing he has poo pains after 1am until about 5 am then does a huge poo every morning, and theres nothing I can do about poo pains I dont think.. or is there?

Hope we are all well

Danielle I didn't get any real scabbing with my incision, it was a nice clean cut and smoothed over by week 5. The only swelling I think I have is where Greer's head was whilst breech. I asked MCHN and Dr about yellow discharge today and both said not to worry unless other symptoms like itching, burning, pain or fever. Forgot to ask when I can start exercising as not my usual Dr.

We had a marvellous day today thanks to Fire's article. I wrapped Greer and she slept from just after midday until 4.45pm, woke up, changed her , fed her and she has just let out a big pooh after her feed so I best change that and see if she remans settled - she is concentrating on my fingers typing ATM.

For those recovering from c-sect , who had staples and who had dissolvable stiches. i had dissolvable stiches and was healled within 4 weeks and apart from a suspected infection that was proptly dealt with have had no troubles. i am curious to see whether the differnt stictching methods have very differnt recovery times and results. My scar is also very thin and not overly repulsive(if thats possible) lol.

alittlegrubi there has been a lot going on with her the last 12 months, but it is nothing all that different from before, she just gets really moody and becomes very self centred when things don't go to plan, and she is a very negative person. We will probably sort things out eventually, but at this point in time I have my own stresses and depression to deal with, I can't take on hers as well. WOW that is a fantastic weight gain for 16 days.
Fire great article, very interesting, it seems that there are some things that I am doing right with Oliver.
Leyla very clever bubs you have being able to roll from tummy to back, Oliver HATES tummy time so we don't really do it too often. I find it hard to keep up with the personals too.
Danielle Oliver is now 5.83kg at 6 weeks, he was 4.84kg at birth so I guess my pediatrician calling him a piggy was appropriate :lol: he is still in 000's but think that there would be some 00's out there that would fit him now. With Oliver's wind, I usually try for about a minute or two to bring up his wind and if it doesn't happen then I give up, but if he has wind he is usually really good bringing it up, otherwise it just comes out the other end later.

Had an ok day today, even though we where out for most of it, he was a pretty happy baby, and when he wasn't sleeping, he just sat in his pram quietly and watched the world go by, he also seems to be feeding better so I am guessing the extra dose of Zantac must be working. We are starting to get a few more little smiles and the occasional big grin and a fair bit of 'story telling' happening.

Just on the size thing, Bj was in 5x0's for about 2 weeks, he's JUST starting to graduate to 000's now, only most things are still 4x0's!!!
Having a tough night with BJ tonight with his poos....he STILL has trouble despite being on a laxitive and taking 50ml of water a day....
Getting a ref to a paed tomorrow hopefully.

zennie - first c/s i had 'normal' stitches. second one, dissolving ones. the actual wound healed better first time round i think. it probably would have been better this time only the nurse told me not to remove the dressings, they would fall off by themselves. they didn't, and it took a few weeks before i realised something was wrong. once they were off it healed up quickly though. staples sounds kinda gruesome; anyone had those?

grubi i'm inspired by your successful application of settling techniques - may have a go myself. thanks fire!

spent today trying to ensure that dd got enough sleep, in the hope of having a better time tonight. ds is too sick to go to kinder tomorrow - which is awful, since it's my only real break from him! i adore him but looking after two is tough right now.

Zennie I had staples and my incision was healed well within the four weeks and is beautiful for a scar now. The midwife that removed my staples said she had not seen an incision that clean in a long time. I think the healing is more to do with how it is done than the method. Think my doctor took a lot of care as I was frantic when told I needed an emergency caesar.
Recovery is also probably partly affected by the mental approach you have to it I'd say.
What are your thoughts Danielle/Kat and any others who have been through the experience more than once?
Sharon Oh yes, I know the type of friend that you are referring to and they are very draining. Totally understand where you are coming from. Hope you are dealing okay with your own issues. If you want to talk about the depression side of things it let me know, I have been there. :hug:
I am amazed, seeing the weight gain for Oliver and Ryley, Greer was only 2.92kg at birth and is 4.88kg at 6 weeks and 5 days that is almost twice Oliver's gain and if Oliver is a piggy what does that make Greer? :rolleyes: :lol: Guess that since she was in the 10th percentile at birth she had a lot to catch up on. We have moved from 5zeros to 4zeros after 4 weeks and now at nearly 7 weeks we are into 3zeros, although we can still fit into 4zeros if it is 2 pieces.
Will be going to Dr in the morning for Greer's checkup and see what this one says about the umbilical hernia as the doctor I saw for my checkup suggested surgery almost straight away.
Fire Thanks again for that article link - today has been heaven and I am attributing it to the wrapping, although I could be wrong. Greer had a little awake/grizzly time when we went to the in laws as they go overseas tomorrow for nearly 6 weeks, but fed her again around 7.30pm and she is still asleep now at 9pm.
So today's routine has been
6.45 am awake, 10am -11am sleep, 12.10 - 4.30 sleep, 5.45-6.15pm sleep, 6.30-7.20pm asleep 7.45-???? asleep
that replaces the day before roughly 7.30am awake 9-10am asleep 2pm-4.30pm asleep 8.15pm -12.15am asleep 12.30am -2.16am asleep 2.45-6.45am asleep.
Well I'm off to bed with the hope that she sleeps well tonight being wrapped.

Great article Janine - thanks!

Had a great day with Liam yesterday - DH went to town and was gone for about 5 hours. I don't tend to cope well on my own (:clap: to those who do it by themselves all day - especially with other kids!) so it was a bit of a test for me. We did brilliantly! Went for a walk, had a friend over for lunch (homemade soup!) and had a perfectly behaved little man who slept & fed excellently - I even had the chance to express while he slept!! I am so proud of myself! (sorry if too much boasting!)

Have been getting much better at reading DS tired & hungry signs. He's now 7 weeks and is grinning & smiling regularly (even when feeding) - hasn't yet rolled, but I don't give him much tummy time so it's probably only from lack of opportunity.

Here's the fabulous news though - we're starting to 'sleep through'! For the last 3 nights he has slept for 5-6 hours from mid evening (9-12 ish) until late morning (2-4 ish). This is absolutely brilliant and I even got 8 hours of sleep last night (broken into three parts) - WOW! :dance:

Haven't had much chance to get on here, so I will try to get a bit more regular at posting so I can include personals...

Grubi - Greer & Liam seem like little twins! He's also around 55.5 cms long now and weighs around 4.6 kgs. He was long for his weight at birth too! However, he's still in 0000's (except bonds growsuits - they're small!). He's so lanky that the only thing being tested is the length of some outfits. Reckon it'll be another few weeks before he graduates to 000's!

Happy sleeping tonight to everyone!

MGM. For me the staples weren't actually that gruesome, surprisingly, it was very clean and there aren't any scars from where they were.
Maybe the healing is more to do with how well the wound is looked after and aired than the way it is done then.
Hope your attempts to use the settling techniques work as well as mine have and that mine continues to work.