Babies Born April 2008 #3

BabyWrangler Ollie can have anywhere from 80ml to 140ml, he averages around 620ml in a 24 hour period, for his weight though he should probably be on more but I think that the thickened formula fills him up more, therefore he doesn't need as much to feel full IYKWIM. I'm glad that the formula and reduced Zantac seems to have worked for you but sad for you because of all that EBM that you have in your freezer, but as long as BJ is happy that is all that matters in the long run. Oh, and woohoo on his poo! I was also going to ask if you had him on thickened formula and after reading on learned that you did :D Good idea to still see the Paed though.
sarah_dobbo2 I suppose if I was decorating a room for a toddler and a baby boy I would probably go for a car or plane theme.
Fire sorry to hear that you are having such a difficult time getting Ci to sleep, other than getting a swing/rocker for the daytime sleeps or what BW suggested sounded good. :hug:
alittlegrubi sorry to hear you are having problems getting Greer to sleep too, it would be extremely exhausting and depressing for you. :hug:
bellelass your are not doing everything wrong, you are looking after your bubs the best way you can, there is no right or wrong way it's a matter of finding something that 'works' for you and your baby, and pffft to any Dr who tells you otherwise. :hug: for you too

Had a FANTASTIC time at the movies with GF today, the movie was just fabulous, would have nice if our other friends who saw it yesterday had told us to take a box of tissues because we needed them, I had to make 1 tissue last me the entire movie, well 2 hours of it and it looked very tattered and torn by the end of the movie. My friend hardly ever goes to the movies because she can't stand 'crinklers' (think chip packets) well we need not have worried about that, i'm just not surprised that someone didn't yell out 'will those 2 ladies sniffling and sobbing please shut up!'.

Sharon - I'm going next Friday with two GF's to SATC, then dinner and drinks afterwards. I am a huge fan but think I am more excited about wearing make up and heels instead of no slap and trackies for a change!

Janine - :hug::hug:

SG
xo

Oh Steph! What a bunch of a$$es. Someone ought to inform these child "care" people that child development psychology long ago poo poo'd crying it out, for God's sake! They also should have told you she shouldn't get shots while sick. It takes a big whack on the immune system to deal with those injections, they need to be in top form to have the best chance of no side effects. Hugs to you, I hope Lila is better soon.

MGM, I hear ya, it sucks big time. But like my AP (vigilante) advocates keep reminding me, you can't "see" the benefits of babywearing. At least not immediately. It's all personal sacrifice up front. Unlike breastfeeding you can see that sometimes immediately cos your kid won't get sick as often (so they say) but with babywearing, it is just that extra attachment thing that makes all the developmental difference - cling to that when desperate, as I do! Still, even knowing that, I'd love to have a darn break anyway! :lol:

BW, we're getting those leg rocker things. lullababy. Thanks for the referral, I'll keep you posted on progress. I'm putting together a package "settling" deal for DS, and once I have it all together, it will be settling time around here! I'm getting white noise womb sounds, a sleeping bag, a wedge for the cot, a wedge for side lying (what are they called so I can search ebay for them), a new organic cot mattress (that has nothing to do with settling, but we are getting one), a silky blanky and a copy of the No Cry Sleep Solution, dammit! :lol: Time to get some naps around here.

I had tried a rocker but he told me to bash that. He seems startled whenever he isn't on a body. Poor little sod.

Last night was rough, he puked out of his nose and did the constant startle reflex thing they do when totally horrified. It was tough to watch. But afterwards he just tucked into some more boob, and then more, and some more please. milk hog. No wonder he pukes. I swear he eats more at night than during the day cos he uses it to resettle all night.

Thanks Shoe. :hug: I'm having an ok morning. Here's hoping I can keep it up (my mood that is, cos I can't bank on anything with Ci).

Hi Fire,
Does he have a dummy? you may find that will help him settle too (BJ has one, but he pretty much only has it at sleep time).
Try searching for anti-roll pillow there are a few different styles (we have 3 different ones that were given to us from various people!).
If you don't get too many show up, try just searching for pillow in the "baby" category.
If you want any help let me know (Im a bit of an ebay junkie!), just drop me a pm, or email me
shelley@lurgen.com

On a personal note for us:
We have removed Zantac from the mix completely. He'd had a dose about 4am yesterday and then I think we accidently skipped one, he's had a really good day, then when he had his dose at about 6pm, and it all went to crap, the crampy look, the crying, the not sleeping, the straining.
On much deeper investigation, hundreds and hundreds of people report the same reactions from their kids, and then have shifted to I think its losec?.
We are going to the Chiropractor this arvo to have him adjusted (chiros can work wonders for reflux apparently), and the Paed on thursday.
We are keeping him off the Zantac til thursday to see how he goes.
I think the lower does moves through his system faster though, because at midnight he went to sleep and slept right through til 6, I put his dummy in, he went back to sleep til 7:30, had a feed, was back asleep at 8:15, and now, at nearly 11am, he's still asleep!
Will have to see how the rest of the day goes!

BW have you tried that Zantac? I did when it was prescribed for DS and no bloody wonder they react. We used infant Gaviscon and an osteopath - similar to chiro for DS and by 10 weeks he was great.

BTW do you think that the changes to Ebay are going to have a big impact?
I think once people selling work out that they are not protected wit Paypal the postage will go up or the sellers will stop using it, probably the first, being that they have to use Express Platinum satchels to be covered so a 5.30 satchel becomes an 11.90 satchel. Would you still buy?

I tend to buy only from my local area so I collect most things.
Some Sellers will be willing to wear the risk too though.
We'll see.
The thing is though, that if they overcharge for postage, it will be reflected in their feedback anyway, because they cannot leave negative feedback for buyers in retaliation anymore which I think is awesome. There have been times for me where a transaction has been AWFUL for me as a buyer, but I've had to leave positive feedback because I didnt want falsly negative feedback left for me.

BJ has had a MUCH better day today, only getting crabby when he was overtired!!
The Chiropractor moved his tummy down, and diaphragm across, both of which should either fix, or at least help the reflux...the rest of his issuses should now settle.
And yes, I tried Zantac and nearly threw up!
We had him on gaviscon, and thats how all this started, it constipated him terribly (and I'm talking golf ball size, and solidness!) so he was taken off that and put on Zantac.

Hi everyone, I have been away for weeks!!
I hear you girls about the severe lack of daytime sleep. I dont mind during the morning, but by the evening I am really cranky and short tempered to my baby, which makes me feel terrible but its just so draining.
Can I ask you all if you are settling awake in the cot with a dummy or without?
I put her in the cot awake and can sometimes rock her to sleep but she ALWAYS wakes up about 10 mins later. If she falls asleep in my arms and I put her down then, she generally sleeps for about 3 hours. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong??
I am one who had a c-section and have a baby who does not sleep at all during the day! However she was really active in the womb which seems to have continued....

Hi ladies,

I'm going to attempt to do some personals while Jack is sleeping - sorry it has taken so long! Warning - one handed typing!

Babywrangler - I'm so glad that things have started to settle for BJ, what a relief to have your happy baby back. Hope that things continue to improve. It's all so much trial and error to get thing right.

Grubi/Fire - Hope that you C-section pain starts to diminish. Must be so tough carrying your bubs with the added strength issues from abdominal surgery. I find it hard enough carrying Jack around even after a vg delivery!

Shoegal - Sounds to me like Baxter is doing pretty well. Some babies just move at their own pace. Jack is a little on the small side too, but he is happy and that is the main thing. You know that Jack and Baxter will probably end up being 6 foot 6 footy players!

Sharon - I'm so glad that you got some 'you' time. God knows we all deserve some of that!

mgm - I'm with you on the nap time thing. I keep trying to get things done while he naps, but if I'm not there with him he keeps waking up! And it hurts my back too much to try and do too much with him sleeping in a sling. I tend to keep compensating for my movement to prevent him waking - which stuffs my back! So basically he only gets a decent nap if I'm prepared to hang out on the couch for a few hours! (sound good in theory... must gets a bit old)

Bellelass - POO to your GP! They have no idea obviously! you are doing fabulously, dont let anyone knock your confidence. NOBODY knows you baby as well as you do...

Sarah - I have a jungle theme in Jacks room, but thats just because I'm a huge animal lover!

Jack and I are doing well, but I've had a bit of a sad week. A close friend has lost her baby (18 weeks pg) and is absolutely devistated, I feel so bad for her. I know quite a few of you from the TTCAML group so I know you know what she is going through. I also got a belated baby gift of lullabies and one of them just made me ball my eyes out! It really voiced how special this gift we have been given is. I know its a bit soppy, but here are the words...

I will carry you in my arms
let you see the world
of bright new mornings filled with wonder
songs of mocking birds
i will carry you in my arms
cradle you to sleep
o little lamb in need of shelter
i will watch and keep
so lift your hands up to the sunlight
breathe in every breath
and let god fill you with his peace
and gentle tenderness
and i will cherish every moment
what a gift so true
until you're walking on your own
i will carry you


I dont know about you guys, but with all the stress of having new babies, it's easy to forget how quickly this phase passes and what a blessing these little people are! My friends loss just brought back my own loss, and reminded me of how luck i now am. Sleep deprivation and all!

ok, thats enough sentiment for today!

BW re ebay and seller taking the risk... the risk is that the buyer can take their money back out of the paypal account if the seller can not prove delivery, which could go for local pickup too. If that happens when the goods were received, the seller has no way of warning anyone via feedback anymore. From the seller's perspective it is not excessive post, it is Paypal's required level of postage service - i.e. track and trace to cover themselves against claims of non-delivery. It is all good for buying if they don't change their posting habits.

Clueless I don't know that you are doing anything wrong, at the new parents group they showed a DVD about how babies self settle, do you stay with her until she is calm? They also said that we tend to go in too quickly at the first cry - listen for how long the cry/pause is if the pauses get longer they are self settling - I can't tell and get upset with the crying too soon to do it - lack of sleep I'd say.
I am really bad - I tend to do what works, like letting her fall asleep on the boob. :doh: Greer sleeps during the day, just not without being held most of the time, most of her daytime sleep is in the carrier. Great at night, just not so during the day.

Fire Have you tried putting him down where you co-sleep at night? Sometimes if I lay down with Greer she will go to sleep on the bed during the day for an hour or two when all else has failed.

Well, Up until today i've had a GREAT day time sleeper! Only wakes every 3-4 hours for a feed and usually has about an hour or two a day of playtime where she's happy and awake. TOday was an absolute nightmare! no more than 15 minutes of sleep all day and crying! oh dear god the crying. I swear i just wanted to run away. I've put it down to bad wind pain, so i went and got some drops and she seems to be alot happier now. I had so much bloody housework to do today it's not funny! BUt i honestly didnt have one moments peace! I couldnt even have a shower until dp got home from work cause she was screaming all day. Hope all you other girls are doing well and had a much better day that what I did today.

Just thought I'd jump back in and re-iterate that I think my boy is back.
Went out after he slept til 11:30 this morning and had a bottle (no zantac!), and a play on the floor for about half an hour, was quiet til Chiro at 2pm.
Had his adjustment, then when we got home went to bed was asleep by 3:45, and has JUST woken up (mind you he's starving, DH is feeding him as we speak!) Can't wait to see how he goes overnight!

hey all

just a flying visit to ask how do you find a chiroprater for a baby??? and how well do they work. Mj seems very cranky and cloicy and am willing to try anything atm

Beatrix,
I went to an osteopath through the local natural medicine centre.

Hi Beatrix,
I took BJ to my chiropractor.
He does it through surrogate testing.
Bj sat on me with his spine to my tummy and as with testing me, chiro uses one of my large muscles (in this case my arm), and tests points on BJ, when he gets to the problem area on BJ my arm goes weak as it would if I had the problem area....its weird, I don't fully understand how it works, but given that my son slept 4 hours, had 180ml of formula, a little poo, slept for 30 minutes, had another 60ml of formula and has settled himself for the 3rd sleep in a row...I don't care how it worked, just that it DID!!

Beatrix where in Oz are you? I have a chiro that I can recommend in Melbourne, I'd travel from just about anywhere to see him!

BabyWrangler do you need a referal for a chiropractor? Also, approximately how much would it cost?
kirsty_lee I hear what you are saying honey :hug:
Leyla that is very sad for your friend to have lost her baby, it sure does bring back some sad memories of my little angel, and I do feel blessed.
Clueless I was getting Oliver to settle himself in his bassinette all by himself, I would put him in while he was sleepy, but not asleep, and only sometimes would he have the dummy and he would send himself straight off to sleep for between 1.5 to 3 hours, but for some reason it has all gone pear shaped.

I have had an awful day today, that ended with me in tears and shouting at my sweet baby to shut up while he was in his cot? I then walked out of the room and I honestly hated myself for getting cranky at him, and I then proceeded to hit myself in the head. I then cried even more but went in and lovingly cuddled my boy. He had had at the most 1.5 hours sleep, when he used to have 1.5-3 hours between feeds and he was just so grizzly and grumpy and didn't want to be put down for any length of time, how can a baby who has been self settling since birth suddenly start acting this way, it is driving me insane, and this has been getting progressively worse over the last 4 days or so.

I am in adelaide!!

i used to use a chiro for my headaches but he doesnt do babies

Hi Sharon,
My Chiro is I think $45 a visit, but we have private health cover and we get about $18 of that off so we pay about $27.
No referral needed.
My Chiro saw Ben when he was 9 days old also, because birth (and particularly headbutting mummy's pelvis for 36 hours) can put their necks and backs out.

Hi ladies, I finally have the internet at home so will be able to join in!! Yay!! I am quite excited.

Sharon You don't need a referral to a Chairo - I took Luke to DH's at 3 weeks. He adjusted one vertabrae and Luke has been burping like a champion ever since. It cost $50 and I got $25 back from our health fund. So sorry to hear that Ollie is tryinig your patience. At my mother's group they gave us a handout that set out when to expect unsettled periods (crying more, eating more, wanting more cuddles). There is one at 3 weeks, one at 8 -9 weeks. I have found that Luke is more unsettled during those times and he usually goes back to sleeping really well and being the happy little fella that he is.

Clueless I tend to get Luke to almost asleep in my arms and then put him in his cradle. He then usually goes to sleep on his own. Having said that if I put him to sleep in my arms and then put him down he usually wakes up and I rock him a little and he puts himself to sleep. i have found that the self settling is becoming harder as he is more alert and interested so I seem to spend more time rocking him. I try to avoid the dummy at night, but will use it during the day. My little piggy really likes sucking on stuff!

As for me - things are pretty good. Luke generally sleeps well, last night was my first night feed in about 10 days and came as a big shock to the system. Having said that he is still asleep now and it may be that the night/early morning feed works better when I go back to work. Will have to wait and see.

Looking forward to getting to know everyone!

Yay!!! i have got a appointment today with a chiro at 11:30. had to borrow the money cause payday is tomorror but she goes on holidays tomorrow.

please let this help her

hey everyone!

havnt got much time to read through all of the posts but can anyone help me at all? I have heard some mothers who have given up breastfeeding have been able to start again after a month or so... is this true and if it is how? We gave up breastfeeding for good at 3 weeks, I am thinking I want to give it another try and I still have some milk leaking every now and then.. is it possble to bring in good milk flow after that ammount of time?

Update on me: I am doing ok considering me, my 3 y.o and bubs all have this awful flu! sore throat, aching muscles head feels like its goin to explode! And DD was following me around before I asked her too so she would stay away from Ryley for a bit until I got his bottle sorted cause I dont trust her alone with him... turned my back on her - only to put his botle in the microwave... turned around and she was gone ran into the lounge room theres Ryley screaming on the tiles out of his rocker!!!! Oh my god!!!! It doesnt matter how many times I tell her or how many times I punish her it doesnt bother her! she still does the same naughty things! I need 4 arms to be able to keep an eye on both of them and do things that have to be done at the same time! She is just so full of energy all of the time and doesnt stop it takes 1 second and shes out of one room in another tearing things apart! Shes like a mini tornado! And with ryley crying for a feed as well and trying to get him sorted out oh my its hard to keep an eye on her when she moves so bloody fast! Ryley is ok, but hes booked into the doctors for tomorrow to be checked and i will keep a close eye on him all day now. argh! Im so mad with her!

anyhows hope we are all doing well!

Beatrix how did you go at the Chiro?!

Well, After the second day of Ava being totally unsettled and sooky and not sleeping for more than 15 minutes I think i've figured out what it was. The formula i've had her on was the Heinz Nuture Gold and it's based on cows milk so Im thinking it's something to do with that. She hasn't pooed at all today so I think she's consitpated therefore upset/crying/screaming. So instead of having another day of practically pulling my hair out i've decided to just ditch the tin i've got and went and bought s26 gold as i've heard good things so hopefully she'll feel a bit better after that and some infants friend. Hope we are all well. Also, what do you take babies to chiro's for?

Chiro went well

She has two adjustment type things (cant remember what they called it)
One in the left side of her neck and the oter in her upper back. The neck one oculd possibly explain why she is so fussy with one boob and not the other. And the upper back one the lady said caould be causing the wind problems therefor the colic problems.

She didnt like havig the adjustments down but afterwards was so relaxed was a real dead weight even though seh was awake. does that make any sense.

Still a bit grizzly this afternoon but after a nice bath tonight has self settled off for a sleep, will wake he shortly to feed her then see how she goes tonight.

Have still got a DR appouintment tomorrow to rule out reflux as she is a very chucky bby, while she does scream after she has chucked she will not sleep without a pillow (bad i know but i do what i have to do to get her to sleep) and will scream if layed down after a feed

If the Chiro doesnt work will consider a osteopath

Beatrix Osteopath does much the same as a chiro.
Kirsty-lee Formula fed babies can go days without poos and are more "constipated" than BF babies. You might be ditching the formula too quickly only to find she is the same with S26. She could just need more intensity with bringing up the burps after feeding. In answer to your question, Mostly Chiros help adjust the babies backs that can get out of alignment during the birthing process, the theory being that the misalignment causes reflux, colic etc.
Danielle can't answer BF question - but you could always give it a go and see if it works for you. Understand your frustrations with 3yr old. I am so lucky DS has not done anything bad to DD.

Yeah I know that about the formula, but im just trying to rule it out and if she's not better in a day or so i'll go to the doctor. With regards to the chiro and the back alignment, does that go for babies delivered via cesar as well?

Im lucky, my chiro does the back and neck adjustments, but also does a few other types of assessments as well, one called neurolink which relates to the nervous system (hence him getting rid of my cold sores!), and another one.
They are why BJ had his tummy and diaphragm moved, but nothing skeletal.
We are off the the paed tomorrow, then (fingers crossed) we can put BJ back onto breast milk. I hope hope HOPE we can...but will take Dr's advice!

Im lucky, my chiro does the back and neck adjustments, but also does a few other types of assessments as well, one called neurolink which relates to the nervous system (hence him getting rid of my cold sores!), and another one.
They are why BJ had his tummy and diaphragm moved, but nothing skeletal.
We are off the the paed tomorrow, then (fingers crossed) we can put BJ back onto breast milk. I hope hope HOPE we can...but will take Dr's advice!

my poor little man had his vaccinations today and is miserable.:(
I hate seeing him upset. I've tried to give him panadol, but he's thrown it back up again. I know you are all most likely in bed by now, but does anyone know if I should try to re-dose him if he vomits the first lot up within 5 mins?

Kristy-Lee my chiro said that it is generally more useful for babies born via c-section as they are generally stuck there, and yanked out funny. Luke was born after a labour that did not progress and it turned out that he was stuck firmly in my pelvis. Chiro said that he was surprised after hearing about my labour that he only required one adjustment. Said that usually babies that are stuck have crinked necks...

Leyla sadly I am up too - Luke is having a doozy.... unfortunately I have no idea as to your query - makes sense to me, but the last thing you want to do is overdose him... You could call the 24 hour karitane hotline - I don't know the number, but it would be on their website. Hope Jack is feeling better soon.

For all my talk earlier, I am not doing so well tonight. Luke is unsettled and seems to want to feed constantly. I am starting to wonder if he is getting enough and then I start thinking I will have to stop bf'ing, which makes me depressed. Given his birth was so unsuccesful I have taken some solace in the fact that BF'ing is going well. I feel that if I can't BF as well as being unable to birth him properly that I have failed altogether. I hate feeling like this, but can't seem to stop sometimes.

OMG what a night! Poor little Jack was not happy.:( I did not end up dosing him again as I was too worried about ODing him. I decided to wait out the 4 hours and give it again if he was still upset. So it was lots of cuddles for Jack and we finally found a position that he was happy in and he finally drifted off to sleep. We also ended up feeding every hour or so (for comfort I am thinking). But he seems to be doing much better today... just has an exhausted mum now!

Shelle - I'm so sorry that Luke had a bad night. At least you know that you are not alone on feeling like a zombie today! Don't give up on the BFing just yet sweetie... I know its really disheartening when they want to feed all the time, but babies just go through phases like that and it usually just means they are snacking or comfort feeding, not that you have not got enough. As long as he is gaining weight and has lots of wet nappies, you are giving him everything he needs at this stage. Jack has been feeding pretty much every hour to 2 hours during the day. It's only at night that he goes for longer. He gained 360 grams last week, so I know he is getting enough despite my worries when he feeds so much. It is a PIA for sure especially when you want to get stuff done or get out and about, but it wont last forever. My MCHN suggested waiting till I had DH at home on a weekend and then trying to stretch him out between feeds (as there would be lots of tears... from Jack too). But to be honest I can't be bothered and I know that Jack will grow out of it.

Hope everyone else has had a good night!

GOOD MORNING lovely ladies!!!!! I am in such a great mood today!!! After switching ava's formula from Heinz Nuture Gold to S26 Gold I had the BEST night. She slept from 8pm till 5am this morning!!!!!!! No crying, she even woke up with a great big smile!!! She's been smiling all morning and for the first time is awake and content, whereas normally she's awake and cranky as! And she' pooed!!!! I know formula babies dont usually go as much as breastfed but in my case she's always pooed at least 2 times a day regardless of formula or boobies! Hope we are all well today and our bubbies gave us all a good sleep xx

kirsty_lee, well done - what an amazing stretch of sleep! i'm very, very jealous!

leyla and shellbell, commiserations on your bad nights. it wasn't good here either - dd has an incredibly vicious cold and coughed, spluttered and cried for most of the night. definitely the worst night i've had in years. leyla i've had that same question about medicine before - what do you do if they vomit it up? anyway, i'm glad jack is better today.

must go try wake myself up now.

OMG as i've been writing this dd has fallen asleep in her swing! first nap ever out of someone's arms! :dance: bet she wakes up in 5 though...

Shellbell:hug: If you can, try to persist with the BFing into the third month, if things don't improve by then, then consider switching. Luke could be going through a growth spurt or fighting off bugs. Greer has days of what seems like constant feeding. If you are really concerned he needs more comp feed Luke, that is give him a top up with formula.
You have not failed because of having to have a c-section or even if you can't continue to BF. An unplanned c-section can really through a spanner in the works and there seems to be so many of us that had them.Think of it in the positive - you tried to have a natural birth, but for medical reasons the doctors took that away from you - it was not you that failed - but the medical system which is too afraid of being sued.
You have BF Luke this far and that is longer than some other mothers have chosen to do it without there being a valid reason. My lactation consultant said that you need to do what is best for bubs and mum. Maybe you could try the fenegreek or milo that everyone was suggesting helps your supply in the earlier threads fo April Babies.
Remember that you are not failing as a mother because you are still worried about you baby, caring for him and consistently working on meeting his needs - that makes you an awesome mum. :hug:
MGM congrats on the non-arm sleep. We are getting a few more too. I managed to work through settling her to sleeplast night without cosleeping , feeding or holding. I did give her my finger to suck until she settled. It felt so good to know I can do it - was thinking I would never be able to. Having DS in tears because I tried to get him to sleep in his bed (with me) instead of in the nursery made me more determined not to make the same sleep associations with DD. I want to go back to bed with DH before another 3 years please.
Kirsry-lee congrates on a good night :clap::dance:

Today i am risking having DS at home when DH is going out tonight - hopefully I don't wear out my tolerance before bedtime. Have to go and spend time with DS now - catch up later.

Morning all,

Just a quick update... I haven't read all post yet... will do it later when DS isn't climbing all over office desk.

It seems Wyatt has settled into a routine on 8-12-4 is roughly when he has feeds then to bed for a rest. DS and DD went to their grannies house and Wyatt slept from 10-2. So I know he will last that long just depending on where his siblings are fighting or not.

He also slept for 7hrs last night 6hrs the night before. Was great woke up in panic 'cos I thought I didnt hear him.

Oh, he is smiling big time now has done for last week and half. But I got my first photo of his big smile today (updated ticker).

I'm doing great emotional. DH and I are talking every day, and having cuddles before we go to sleep. I even got Wyatt first page of scapbooking done yesterday. I still have a few things to add, but it was great to get back into it again. I forgot how much I missed it. But when I have a new born and a terrible 2yr old DS running around/trying to help out its not easy. So when DS goes for nap I'm off to scrap.

Well thats all for me, I hope everyone else doing fine.

Cheers
Sarah

Sharon: How was you night out with friends at SATC? Did you enjoy your self.

Sarah - yay for life returning to normal! Isn't is lovely when you can do something for yourself?

mgm - your swing sounds like a godsend!

Leyla - sorry to hear about Jack's night, :( Baxter is having his immunisations next Tuesday so I will prepare myself.

Well Baxter put on 190gms this week, so that is 3 good gains in 3 weeks. He feeds at roughly 7am, 9am, 11am, 2.30pm, 5.30pm, 7.30pm and 9.30pm followed by either a EBM or formula bottle, then sleeps from 10.30pm until 7.00am. He's slept like this for the past 4 nights so I consider myself very lucky. I don't have to wake him to feed anymore like I did in the early weeks. Getting lots of smiles too which just melts our hearts.

SG
xo

hey everyone!

Kirsty lee: I remember with my 1st she was put onto formula and I think she was having karicare or something to begin with, and she was real cranky screaming and hyper like all the time wouldn't sleep. She was also very windy. When we switched her to S-26 she settled completely, and we have Ryley on S-26 as well he seems to be bringing up his wind and burps easily or by himself and no troubles with him but we are also using anti-colic botles... I guess some reactions can be from formula other reactions like skin reactions even its hard to find the source cause it could be so many things... like 1 ingredient in washing liquid that could be in millions of others, oe in the soap you use or moisturiser, even if you use a normal towel on bub for 1 night thats been washed in ordinary poweder (like we did - woops!) they are so senstitive to everything they can break out so easily and have many reactions to all sorts of things... I am so glad you may of found the solution and were switched on to notice the problem... sounds like the exact problem we had with DD the first time round, we use S-26 gold now with Ryley and have had no dramas what so ever but all babies are different i spose.

MGM- oh my I remember my DD being like that when she was newborn... have u got one of those mechanical swings? we got one for DD cause I was up all night lying on the couch one arm down rocking her so she'd sleep! arent those swings just brilliant!

Shell: I know how you feel sweet, I have been feeling the same from 2 c sectons and now 2 formula fed babies, spent a little of yesterday crying saying "what sort of mother am I" Its probably a very distorted vision of thinking while we feel so depressed as if we have failed, as long as your baby is happy then you should not feel bad about anything you have done, you do what is right for your baby and you will know what is right! I am beginning to see light that I am a good mum regardless of 2 c sections and 2 formula fed babies, Hell I am multi-skilled and can do alot for my kids and I do... so thats the same as you... your a dam good mum too dont doubt yourself, cause Im sure your babies never will! oh and another thing Ive heard "happy mummy = happy baby" and I dont think this phrase could possibly be anymore true!

Sarah: oh thats so nice to hear you and DH are getting along quiet nicely now now you both just have to be persistant in making time for one another - Im sure everything will be fine... Oh.. isnt it just lovely when they smile at you all of the time we got Ryleys smile on camera too for the 1st time! Ill have to update my ticker now also.. one day... meaning when i get the time... which might be a while hehe. scrapbooking sounds like a lovely idea dunno how Id go keeping DD out of it all though and getting the time for that either hehe oh well.. nice to hear you are all well.


shoegal: nice to hear your little boy is thriving.. sounds like we all have heatlhty babies in here doesnt it? so nice to hear!:) and gotta love every one of thos cheesy toothless grins! melts us here too and everybody else makes us all gooey!

I am good still rottenly sick with the flu turns out Ryley is ok after his big sisters episode yesterday!!! Ryles is still sick and Lily we havnt had the flu this bad in ages! makes it tough to look after eveyone when my head feels like its goin to explode... But taking advantage of the peace right now.. DD has gone down for a nap I thhink Ryles is ready for one too so goin to put him to sleep then Im gonna crash on the couch and hope I get more than 10 mins in this time...

Sarah: I just realised... Ryleys routine is the same of a night.. being feeding 8-12-4 and sleep in between thats not a bad routine at all how are you coping with it? Im finding I am getting enough sleep in between Im pretty used to it now:) I just get exhausted during the day from my 3.y.o causing a rucus! but thats what 3.y.o's do.

Hi All,
Ive noticed quite a few of us are managing to get decent sleep at night now.
Benjamin went from 8:15 til 3:30 last night, and then from 4 til 8 which was great....his best night since being off the Zantac.
We had our paed appt today, and he appears to be growing out of his reflux (though I think the Chiro trip had alot to do with it), and has just (like half an hour ago!) returned to BFing...Im sooo excited!
So now I'm laying on the couch having a relax and some water followed by a big glass of aktavite just to kick start everything again.
Im so excited....we are basically starting again which is kind of sad that the middle 5 weeks have been a bit yucky, but thats ok, we're on track now.
Benjamin has been smiling since 3 weeks, but is constantly smiling now, the paed was fascinated by how much he "talks" (he's been doing that for about 4 weeks now)
Oh and on top of going back to BFing...he's put on over 300g in the past 10 days and has FINALLY hit just over 5kg!!!!

BW, I am a neurolink practitioner! I rarely hear it spoken of so I had to pipe in and tell you. :lol:

Leyla you poor thing - sounds as though Jack took it hard. Luke has his next week and I am not looking forward to it!

mgm I hope your little one is doing better. It must be so hard to see them sick and upset.

Grubi Thanks for your advice. I really don't want to give up BF'ing. I have been enjoying spending the time with Luke and he has been doing really well with it. I have gotten some fenugeek (sp??) and will see how that goes. I have also defrosted some EBM to tryto top him up on tonight so will try that too.

Sarah What a lovely photo!! Wyatt looks so cute! Must get a ticker and a picture of my boy up here!

Danielle Thanks for your kind thoughts - I can understand better now why you you felt the way you did about your second c-section - more big hugs your way :hug:. I think it has all been compounded by my Ob telling me that "unless I have a signficiantly smaller baby next time a VBAC isn't possible".

BW yay for returning to BFing. I have only been able to follow your travels briefly but even from that I know how much you have been going through. fingers crossed that everything keeps going well.

Well, after a crappy night Luke has been pretty good today. We went to mother's group and instead of rushing around afterwards and feeding Luke when we got home and he was long overdue I fed him in the carpark and then did some more shopping. I then fed him again when we got home and he is in his bed now having a nap. I think that part of hsi unsettledness (if that is a word!) if because he is more aware of his surroundings and less interested in sleeping. Will see how he goes tonight.

Fire: Neurolink has been my saving grace on many an occasion.
If I wasn't married to my DH, I'd marry my chiro! (Mind you, his gorgeous wife might have something to say about that!!).
I'm gonna pop in and do some personals in the next day or so, I've just been trying to catch up on everything around the house first (on top of the outings we've had to do!).
BJ has been asleep since about 2:30 after his BF at about 2pm so thats good! He'll be up soon for a feed.
I think what I'll do is leave the even feed as a bottle (but EBM) so that DH can have some time with BJ, I get all the cuddles etc through BFing and he misses out, especially since BJ is up for such short periods of time!

We may be getting a new car on the weekend....we bought a forester 2 years ago thinking it would be a great family car....well, we put BJ's seat into it and the front passenger seat is all the way forward! If we were to have another one, we can't put them behind the driver as we need the seat back to drive!
DH is going shopping this weekend and may well come back in a totally different car, a nice roomy holden Adventra (like a commodore wagon, but bigger than a station wagon).
Im sorry about the lack of personals, I'm hoping to get to them!!!