Babies Born August 16th - 31st 2008

[MrsFabuloso]

Hiya ladies,

Well life here is pretty full on! I don't know how you girls with more than two bubs are doing it....

DH and I are trying to get DD to sleep on her own, so a fair bit of crying going on here...by both me and her . I hate listening to her cry and even though it's only for 2mins, it totally sucks, but I won't be able to put her to bed the way we do now when DH is at work (we have to rock her to sleep in our arms still). Liam has been impossible too, not letting us put him down. He won't sleep in the day time very well either. Night times, are challenging some nights too, like last night, I was up from 1.30-3am, just trying to settle him. Tonight I am trying to get him to sleep on his own in his cradle, so far it's soooo not working. An hour later and he's still awake and grumping in his cradle. I don't know what to do. He's so tired. I know the only way he'll sleep now is with me in the bed. That's what happens every night. I tyr and try to get him to go to sleep, but it just ends with me going to bed and 9.00 and feeding him to sleep in bed. DH is sleeping on the lounge and I miss him. The nurse today said to try to let him sleep in his cradle, not on us, but the only way he sleeps is on me in the sling/car/pram(sometimes) or on DH. Why can't I have one kid who just sleeps???? I'm so over it already and it's 3wks into it all!
On the upside Liam is feeding well. Still painful but I think that's just how it's going to be for me. Though everyone keeps on questioning my ability to feed my baby. For some reason people think it's cause I'm not giving him enough milk that he's so unsettled. Mum said yesterday, 'he seems to be hungry all the time' (he's not and he's weeing and pooing like a champ). I told her not to start that ***** again cause I was going to go insane at the next person who told me I wasn't feeding my baby enough. She always, literally everytime I see her, questions wether or not I'm feeding him enough. And pressures me to give him a bottle in her own way. DH was too for a while until I broke down and went nuts at him. I doubt myself enough let alone with the people who are supposed to be supporting me doubting me too.
I just feel like I'm doing the wrong thing and I'm not enough, not for Lil or Liam or DH. Definately not for me.....sorry girls, feeling pretty down today. Probably having to listen to Lily scream for half an hour....
Just ignore me!! I'll feel better tomorrow.

[~breeze~]

oh Kellie I'm sorry to hear things are a bit tough there atm. I don't know what to say about the sleeping thing, we decided before we had kids that they will go straight into their own beds & rooms from day one (DS didnt this time, he was in a bassinette in our room for a while but that was only because my mum was sleeping in his room) so I've never had the problem of a baby not settling in bed. I can imagine it would be very difficult to change as it would be so comforting for bubs to be on you to fall asleep, I know I wouldn't want to go into a boring bed after being shown I could snuggle up to mum. If you really want him to sleep in his own crib you may have a few sleepless nights ahead of you, I know it would be just as hard for you as it would be for Liam, especially you hearing him cry for you. Sorry I really cant offer any advice, I do hope something happens soon so you can get some well deserved rest!
I totally hear you on your mum saying "he's always hungry". I get something similar but its with my MIL saying "oohhh he's got a pain (wind)". I can tell that he needs to be wrapped & snuggled because he's over tired from having people cuddle him instead of letting him sleep but MIL takes him & keeps trying to burp him telling me he's in pain. As soon as I take him & snuggle him up to me he closes his eyes & starts to drift off. I dont like to tell MIL she's not right as she's raised 4 kids etc etc & I would be the bad mother ignoring the "pains" & ignoring the advice given from a mother with experience....
Sorry for going on a bit, but I do understand this part of your post & I know the frustration. I also get people saying "why bother" etc about me still continuing to try to breastfeed Tobias! So infuriating!!!!!!

Melsta LOL thanks for the belated birthday wishes Yes we must catch up again soon!

Kristi Great news that the BFing doesn't hurt anymore!! Sorry to hear the bleeding has started again, mine still starts up again every now & then, so annoying! The nurse said when it starts up again its your body telling you to slow down, maybe try to get a good rest hun.... I know thats alot easier said than done!

Lea How did you go with the car hunting?

Milly Glad the tongue snipping went well, I had my tongue snipped when I was 4 or 5.... dont know why it wasn't done earlier?? LOL

Snowchickie Glad your DD is putting on weight, I let DS sleep as long as he likes too, the longest sleep he has each afternoon/night is about 7 hours straight, usually from about 8pm so I'm hoping it will change to a little later over time so I can get the most out of the block of time (sleeping! LOL)

Niamh Feeding every hour, damn!! I hope you've managed to get some rest since!

Georgi I hope the mastisis has cleared up or you're at least getting some relief from it.

Me Still trying to get some kind of routine, I dont know how those of you do it with more than 2 children!!! I booked Brianna into swimming lessons so that will get a little routine happening I suppose!
Still trying to breastfeed, I dont know if I'll be able to do it. Left BB seems to be working ok but my right one is all blistered & scabby on the nipple (sorry TMI & gross!) so it keeps sticking to the breast pad & ripping the scab off all the time so its not getting any better but is getting worse I went to the doctors today to get it checked & he took a swab to check for infection but I was just told to put breast milk on it from the other BB & vaseline, I dont have any vaseline so I tried the breast milk (stung!) then put some moisturiser ontop (ouch!) I hope it starts to heal soon, its so painful & not only that it means that BB is out of action for trying to BF so I'm thinking by the time it heals the milk may be gone? Anyway I still have lefty working. Tobias just wont attatch, he screams
I had his hands & feet done on Monday (twinkle toes but different company called Impressionable kids, the same people who did DD's) & I'm getting the photo tomorrow which was taken last Thurs. looking forward to it being finished.
Tobias has been badly constipated so changing his formula from S26 gold to plain old S26, hopefully will help him out a little!

Well this has taken me close to 2 hours to type (if not longer) due to feeds etc so I best be getting off to bed to get some sleep before Tobias wakes for his next feed!

[MrsFabuloso]

Ugh, last night has to have been the worst night ever......I don't know how much sleep I got but it wasn't much. I'm sooo buggered. If this keeps up I'm going to be a basket case.

[*charmalea*]

oh dear , sounds like we are all encountering troubles ..girls your posts made me sad

for you all ..

Kristi, its good to hear from you , and yes i find that my flow settles down , if im busy or out and about too much it comes back heavy and kinda get some cramping as well , and im glad to hear your back to breast feeding too .. its good for you both , and there are heaps of ways to increase milk supply as well .. i found this thread for you .. (and all you other ladies too ... )
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...roduction.html

its seems as though Aktivite (sp?) is the most common thing for increasing milk supply , its gotta taste better than herbal stuff ... i took this supplement from the health shop once , it was calles milk thistle or something like that , i dont believe it worked , but the ideas in the thread might work ...

Well nixon has been in his big bed/ new room for 2 nights now , and so far its going ok , he falls asleep really well , and the 1st night he slept through and woke around 6:30 am .... DH went and rested on the couch with him in front of the cartoons ..

and last night about 3 am i heard little footsteps around the house , and saw him come through out room ( its got 2 entries) and head for the lounge room .. i got him to come into our bed , had a bit of a cuddle and then thought ... "nope cant have this every night" so after a bit more of a cuddle i sent dh to put him back in his own bed ... DH slept with him as he was wide awake by this time and i could hear nixon babbling away to himself .. i am trying to be strong and teach him from the beggining to go back to his own bed ... ( as much as i love it when all of us are sunnuggled into each other)

Kellie: im not sure what i would do in the situation you are facing atm , but all i can give you is my thoughts on what i would do , Lily is still quite young and i know she has problems with her sleep and has had for a long time , eventually the patting and rocking to sleep will phase out and she will fall asleep on her own , a few months back nixon was a shocker and wouldnt go to bed , so we had to rock him in the rocking chair to make him fall asleep , it was so stressful as i was pg and he was kicking and screaming all over the place , but in the end DH & i looked at it from a differnt angle and looked forward to rocking him to sleep and having the satisfaction of hiving a busy toddler succumbing to sleep on our chest , we used to bicker about whos' turn it was

but now , having 2 in the mix is alot different , for now i wouldnt worry about routines .. liam just needs you atm and if he sleeps next to you , then let him be ... by about 3 mths of age they settle into their own pattern and are much more able to handle a "routine" so if you could please , for me , take a big deep breath in and drop your tense shoulders , now breath out , and hug your babies .... this too shall pass ..

dont listen to anyone elses negative bull**** ... try and do whats right for you .. Liam doesnt need a cradle yet , he needs you to cradle him in your arms

Danielle , stuff your your MIL says about wind my mum and anyother person in the older generation thinks every baby they see has wind , my mum does the same thing , tries to burp Gab every bloomin' time she sees her ... i just let it go ... and whats even more frustrating is that my mum took nixon for the day yesterday and wanted to know if she could have Gab aswell .... NO WAY , she is 2 weeks old ... she wont take a dummy or a bottle , so im glad she couldnt have her .. but then in the arvo , she was saying to gab how she saw a baby about her age taking a bottle and why couldnt she have a bottle too ... my mum has been know to sneak formula in to her grankids , because " they seem so hungry"

and i agree the switch from gold formula to plain stuff will be better for him ... a teaspoon of brown sugar and water does the trick too .... ( though he might be a bit young to cope with that just yet )

I hope you boobie gets better soon , may i suggest MediHoney ? or mauka honey ... its magic stuff .. scented or couloerd moistuiser could make it worse.. ouchies

Well as for me , there were no cars i liked yesterday , but dh did reveal that he's willing to travel to ACT to get the one that he likes, hes going to the bank today then it looks as though i will have a envy green ts awd territory.... hmm do i get a say in this, do i really want a fluro green car??? and do i feel like a "holiday " to somwhere where its stll -2 at night ??? not sure

we had pics for gabs twinle toes yesterday too... the lady asked if she was a good baby.. i told her she was high matainence !! as she feeds up to 3 times an hour the only time she is settled is if she is sleeping in bed with me (after ive spent an hour or 2 trying to get her to sleep) or if she is feeding or in the papasan swing , shes not too bad in the car either ... so she is forever in my arms or on the boob or in the papasan .. she will sleep for ages in there ( as long as its on ) so if i need a break i pop her in there and we are all happy ...

she still vomits up to 3 times after a feed .. my left side flows really fast so she chokes and splutters and never finishes a feed and then spwes it all up ... and poops and farts then gets the major case of the hiccups ...

like right now i just fed her and she spewed 4 times did a huge fart that scared her ..hehe and then pooed and now is hiccupping ..

im taking her to clinc today to weigh her and ask about her fussiness .. i really dont know if this is normal , refulx,colic or just a personality quirk

hmm who have i missed ..

Milly , thanks heaps again .. have a look in my photo gallery

amd everyone one else hope you are all coping ... have a good day

[Georgi]

Hi Girls... Thanks for all your tips on the mastitis. I feel much better today. Although my milk supply in that right breast is still very low. I have begun the hand expressing after I pump & while showering each day. I'm trying to pump that breast every 2.5 hours. I think the supply is on the increase again. It certainly has lost it's lumps & redness. I just hope I can keep it away now. That nipple is really swollen & sore. I'm pretty sure it's from all the pumping. I'm trying to ice it a little after I pump.

Byron is doing great now with his breast feeding. He's starting to take full feeds from the breast, twice a day. I guess we'll start to do 3 feeds a day in the next couple of days. I just want to get him home. He was 35 wks last Tuesday & I believe they've gotta be term (37wks) before they'll let them go. So I guess we're not too far away. He needs to be putting on weight & feeding every feed off the breast aswell.

I will get to doing personals eventually, I promise.

[*charmalea*]

georgi , its great to hear Byron taking breast feeds ... hope you are keeping well .

me , well i think this is the baby blues ... i feel like crying over nothing and i miss nixon as i hardly spend time with him because gabriella is a velcro baby ... i just feel sad ... i have nothing to be sad about .. i dont really know ... and then i feel happy coz my babies are sooo lovely .. and then i get the ****s if nix cucks a tanty .. hmph .. i dont want to go anywhere today but we have to do the groceries (and no, i dont believe DH is capable of doing it on his own ) ....

[~breeze~]

Lea I'm alot like you, crying over nothing. It probably has something to do with the lack of sleep in the early days plus the hormones from the pregnancy/giving birth? I cant remember having it with DD though but she slept through the night from day one so I suppose my life went almost back to normal straight away, maybe thats why I avoided it last time?
Hopefully it will pass soon hun xxx

[snowchickie79]

belinda , i didnt realise chole was soo tiny 3200 @ 3 weeks ... how much did she weigh at birth ..

i am always amazed at babies weights .. dont know why though .. i guess i missed out on a tiny baby .. seeing as ds was 8lbs .. not entirely huge but was a chubba... gabs is only 3800 .. so she has put on about 250 grams in 2 weeks , not that you'd notice , 0000 still hang off her , but i like haivng her so petite ..

charmalea - She was 6lb 14oz when she was born - 3.1kg..

Snowychickie: Please dont put too much on when her weight is in two weeks, just look at your baby "Does she look healthy? When she is awake is she alert?" BF and weight just dont go together well, its never "right" as all our babes are different and all our milks are different. Trust yourself and your baby!

Milly - I'm not worried about her weight gain at all. She is happy and content and happy to sleep so the fact she put on weight was just reassurance that what i'm doing is fine. Clinic nurse said that 190g was a good weight gain so all happy on both sides.

I had another go at breastfeeding and it isnt as painful anymore YAY!! But my supply is low now so i have to give her a bottle after a feed. I have a breast pump on its way so hopefully when i get that i can increase it somehow. My CHN suggested i not take fenugreek until we know whats going on with my stomach.

kirsti14 - I had a supply issue and started taking motilium and my milk increased within 8 hours of starting. Supply went down a little a few days ago and took the tablets again and voila, i look like dolly parton again!

Belinda - hey hun hows things? Man you did well to shop up a storm. I went on Monday with my SIL and nephew and my nephew kept attempting to push Ali in her pram - at 5 it was a very funny sight indeed and we nearly hit so many ppl but all worked out in the end! Chloe sounds like she is doing fine on weight gain etc so I wouldnt worry hun as Milly said.

How was everyone's Fathers Day? My DH loved it ... first one and all so I spoiled him rotten and we took so many pics !!

Mel Things are good. Chloe slept from 10.30pm till 6am this morning. My sister had come to stay the night to "experience" the night with her and she slept the whole time. Oh how cute your nephew pushing Ali. Kids at that age are just so cute (my godson is 5 and he is just smitten with Chloe). Yeah weight gain was good so not concerned now, was a little before her weight check but not now as I know she is getting enough and she is certainly happy in herself with feeding and sleeping. Only issue is the recurrant wind but I've been giving her infants' friend after each feed and seems to help.

Snowchickie [/COLOR]Glad your DD is putting on weight, I let DS sleep as long as he likes too, the longest sleep he has each afternoon/night is about 7 hours straight, usually from about 8pm so I'm hoping it will change to a little later over time so I can get the most out of the block of time (sleeping! LOL)

I had his hands & feet done on Monday (twinkle toes but different company called Impressionable kids, the same people who did DD's) & I'm getting the photo tomorrow which was taken last Thurs. looking forward to it being finished.

Danielle_M - You just described my experiences also.. Only last night i was at my Mum's and Chloe was crying, mind you had been passed around for cuddles like a "pass the parcel" present and Mum kept saying she has pains and talking to her saying "oh you poor little thing you have pains".. She screamed the house down at one stage so all i did was take her and give her cuddles and off to sleep she went. Both sets of grandparents seem to compete for a hold which of course I completely understand but makes getting them off to sleep tricky. Chloe slept for 8 hours straight last night once we got home so just shows how tired she was.
I got Twinkle Toes done on Wednesday!!! Can't wait to see it.