Babies Born August 16th - 31st 2008

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Lea: we eat eggs often LOL, food shopping with three kids........ Do have to go today so shouldnt think about it too much not or i wont end up going LOL.. What nappies do you sell?? My bumgenious are only 14months old and the elastic has gone in most of them...am going to need new ones.... can you buy samples?

Kell: i got confused about your new name too LOL...none of us have had enough sleeps for you to go and do something that confusing LOL

Kristi: glad to hear C is ok and not getting worse. Glad you are still feeding her, it was something you really wanted to do before she was born. And this way hopefully the 3 feeds you do are stress free/special time rather than a stressful time juggling the other 5 kids!

Snowchickie: I think it was Lea who said if you want to wean off formula then do it slowly... its not a one way road to weaning off breast. You can do it, you just need to find the "right" support. Stick with it

Us: Thomas weighs 5.1kg or 11pounds! he is getting so big and he started to smile at me today, very cute. I cant believe he is 5weeks old Thomas still poo's by every nappy change. Its the right colour but its a little funny, its watery and clumpy. My mum said it was over feeding, which id believe as the poor man gets huge feeds off me. A midwife friend is coming to stay tomorrow for two nights so i was just going to get her to have a look, he is putting on weight and its been like that since he was born so i am not worried. I have two flights to sydney planned in the next three weeks. Grace and eve are flowergirls and i am brides maid. Still dont know if matt will be able to come to the wedding....wonder if i will be the 1st bridesmaid to hold a baby rather than flowers...will have to think of a plan B soon. better go, amelia

[snowchickie79]

Belinda, re you're milk supply, the best thing you can do for it is to feed feed feed. If you really want to exclusively bf, then stopping the formula would be a good idea too, slowly of course, maybe 10mls a day or so, and just lay in bed with Chloe and feed her all day for a few days. Your supply will get better that way. Liam and I had a night like that last night. He was literally on the boob from 7pm- midnight. Then again from 5am til about 7am. My nipples are sooo sore, but my supply is great, my bb's are huge, LOL!! But he obviously must be going through a growth spurt. I had alot of trouble with feeding DD so I know how frustrating it is. We never did manage to acheive fully bfing for her, I was on motilium and having activite, oats, you name it if someone said it increased milk supply I took it!! If you really want to fully bf, it will be tough for a few weeks, but you can do it!!! Good luck hun, I hope you can sort it out.

Lilias - Unfortunately the problem is more than just supply.. Chloe is not interested in sucking anymore than she really has to which means once she is past the free flowing milk that she doesn't have to work for she is just pulling off and screaming her lungs out. I've spoken to an ABA consultant this morning who was very sympathetic and unfortunately if I cannot get Chloe back interested in BF'ing then no matter what supply I try to achieve she won't drink. Essentially she has discovered that the bottle is easier to drink so she is not interested in having to suck for longer than about 2 minutes or she screams blo00dy murder. She pulls off goes on pulls off goes on and the pattern continues. I have milk. Those first few minutes it leaks out the sides of her mouth. I can express up to 80ml but she just doesn't want to suck it out.
I asked the ABA consultant about just feeding constantly but she said that all it will achieve is upsetting the both of us and that if Chloe was happy to suck for a normal length of a BF then problem would just be supply, but it's not as I have supply just no child that wants to suck anymore. Give her a bottle and she is milk drunk quicker than you can blink an eye and sucks it down quicker than she can swallow it.

Belinda- I am bottle feeding Chardonnay and breastfeeding her when i have time (as horrible as that sounds, but with 6 kids sometimes i dont have the time to sit down and BF), i feed her at least once a day, i try to aim for 3 times a day. She doesnt get a full feed, i have to top her up, but at least shes getting something, which to me is a success. I can express about 60mls. I cant take the motilium cos i am allergic to maxalon and i cant take the fenugreek or similar yet until they sort out my reflux issues. Anyway, the point of what im getting to is it sounds like you are doing everything you possibly can to keep her interested. I feed Chardonnay with the tommee tippee bottles when shes not on the boob and i offer her the boob before i give her a formula top up. I would try and stick to the tommee tippee bottles over the Avent ones though, the TT teats are more like the breast. How much does Chloe weigh? My last two babies have had issues with not putting on weight so i know how stressful it is, if you need to talk im here.

kristie14 Chloe weighs 3.4kg and she is 6 weeks old tomorrow.

Snowchickie: I think it was Lea who said if you want to wean off formula then do it slowly... its not a one way road to weaning off breast. You can do it, you just need to find the "right" support. Stick with it

Milly - Thanks for the encouragement. I just wish it was simple and the problem wasn't her willingness to attach and stay attached..

[MrsFabuloso]

Hehehe, sorry for confusing everyone with the name change!! But I wanted to have a signature with both my bubs names in it. I had been thinking of changing my name for a while but just didn't know what to, and this one is a mixture of my babies names and initial our surname.

Kristi, I can understand you having a bad night with Chardonnay being so sick. I'm glad she's not getting worse and I hope today has seen her improve.

Lea, yep, I would be eligable for CCB, not sure how much though. I was trying to work it all out the other day, but I just got a headache! I would like one day care, but not sure if it will work out. Was trying to work out how many days I will HAVE to go back to work to still be able to live. I think 3 will be the best option, but not sure, maybe I should all centre link and ask them to work it out.

Milly, I think Liam's about 5kg's or more too. He's getting soo big, everyone keeps on telling me how big he is. I can't believe how much they're growing either. It's going so quickly already!

Belinda, I hope Chloe will get back into the sucking so you can bf her. Have you tried not giving her the bottle? Or someone suggested before a supply line where you put the little tube on your boob and she sucks like normal, but is still getting formula and bm? It's certainly not the end of the journey if you still have lots of milk. She just needs to get back into thinking that her food only comes from you, not a bottle. It probably would be a bit stressful if she won't suck for long, but maybe you could put her on more often? Just until she realises that the milk is coming from you now, no more bottles? This breast feeding thing can be so stressful huh? You want the best and its so hard to figure out what that is!

As for us, we had a loverly day at the party. It was at a big regional park, with heaps of play equipmant and stuff. Lily had a ball and Liam was good for me. Though it was 34 degrees! And blowing a gale! Lil fell asleep in the car and is still sleeping!! And Liam is snoozing too, yay!!! Ok gonna go and enjoy the silence of having both babies asleep!

[~breeze~]

Hi ladies. I'll do my best with personals...

Kellie Glad you had a good day at the party. It was a beautiful day wasn't it. Awesome that both children are sleeping for you atm

Belinda Tobias isn't interested in sucking/attatching to my breast at all anymore. I've tried to keep the milk in my left breast so I can continue to try but after getting a bad infection in my right nipple (which I am now taking anti-biotics for) I dont know if it will work out. I feel for you. I must say though that DD was formula fed from day one due to me not being able to get any milk out of my breasts in the first days after having her & she is perfectly happy & healthy, of course you agree that is the main thing I know things will all work out for you soon.

Milly 2 flights to Sydney, wow you're going to be busy!! I would have loved to have met up but sounds like you're going to be too busy! I hope your DH can join you.

Lea We have hardly any food in the house atm either, although mainly because we dont have the money to do the shopping. It's driving me insane. Don't worry the kids aren't going without, I always make sure they have what they need. We'll catch up soon & hopefully have the cupboards & fridge full again

Kristi I hope Chardonnay is better soon, I can imagine what you felt like being at the hospital, I'd be the same. It's great you still manage to get all those BF's in while having your hands full with the other children aswell!

Tasha How are you going getting Lucy out of the house & sleeping? I hope all is going well for you, it must be so frustrating!!

niamh How are you?

Mel How have you been? Haven't seen you on here for a while. I bet Ali is growing very quickly!

Me Tobias still hasn't smiled. he may have done one today but I'm not convinced so not counting it as "first smile". It did look different to his wind smiles though but maybe I wanted it to look different so I convinced myself it looked different IYKWIM. He;s filling out really well & most nights he's sleeping about 10 hours straight for his first sleep, but thats from about 6 or 7pm so I still have to get up at about 4 or 5, thats on a really good night but other nights its about 7 hours for first sleep then every 3 hours after that. So I really cant complain.
I'm feeling like I'm putting on weight, I weighed myself about 2 days ago & I still weighed the same as just after I had Tobias which is about 9 kilos heavier than where I want to be but its also 5 kilos lighter than i was pre-pregnancy so not too bad atm.
Tobias has his circumcision tomorrow at 11:30am. I'm really nervous, I dont want him to scream I just cant wait for it to be over with & healed up. A quick $500......
Re-arranged DD's toys today, got them all out of the lounge room & put them in her bedroom. I have alot I'm getting rid of, I put them on free-cycle but no-one responded so I'll take them to vinnies/salvos now. I will also be selling all my maternity clothes on Ebay as I've decided no more babies! Pregnancy was just too harsh on my body & I'm still sleeping elevated as my pelvis still isn't back to normal! Just trying to clear alot of the "clutter" out of the house... I HATE it!

I hope you're all well & once again sorry it's taken so long for me to catch up....

[Niamh75]

Hello All

Danielle_M Im getting there Eireann is very windy the last few days and getting sick nearly after every feed seems to hit her late at night when we all should be asleep she lathes on is just going to sleep and then is wide awake crying I got up with her last night and kept winding her rocked he in the pram and then gave her gripe water seemed to work and she settled so she slept then from 1am till about half 5 had a feed and went back to sleep

Im thinking its something in my diet or amy be lack of supply in the evening wouldnt explain the getting sick though

I got infacol and ive stopped using it not sure but think it solved the wind but made he very sicky we were out yesterday and she got sick every were all over me and her we brought our boys out for a walk so I solidered on with a wet t shirt and puke running down my boobs

Milly Eireann nappies are the same its only the last day or so ive notied less dirty nappies but dont worry its all good as long as the poo is a yellowy mustard colour baby is getting all the good hind milk and think yiou can be really sure of that with BUBs weight if you notice a green frothy nappy it can mean baby getting to much foremilk I only forund out that recently from a LC

Im terrible with personals so sorry I promise ill get better my mind a whirl we are moving house this week and so much todo

[Niamh75]

Oops just re read my post so many typing mistakes sorry hope you can understand me

[snowchickie79]

Belinda, I hope Chloe will get back into the sucking so you can bf her. Have you tried not giving her the bottle? Or someone suggested before a supply line where you put the little tube on your boob and she sucks like normal, but is still getting formula and bm? It's certainly not the end of the journey if you still have lots of milk. She just needs to get back into thinking that her food only comes from you, not a bottle. It probably would be a bit stressful if she won't suck for long, but maybe you could put her on more often? Just until she realises that the milk is coming from you now, no more bottles? This breast feeding thing can be so stressful huh? You want the best and its so hard to figure out what that is!

As for us, we had a loverly day at the party. It was at a big regional park, with heaps of play equipmant and stuff. Lily had a ball and Liam was good for me. Though it was 34 degrees! And blowing a gale! Lil fell asleep in the car and is still sleeping!! And Liam is snoozing too, yay!!! Ok gonna go and enjoy the silence of having both babies asleep!

lilias - At the moment I don't really want to try not giving her a comp because she didn't gain much weight at her last weigh in and i don't want to risk doing that again. I have another weight check at the clinic tomorrow so will see how she goes. Her birth weight was 3.2kg and she was only 3.4kg at 5 weeks so that is not a huge weight gain in the scheme of things. By not comping her I think I'd be doing more damage than good and I don't want her to start associating me with a bad experience in that she gets so worked up when she wants to feed but cannot for some reason. Issue really isn't supply now but getting her to attach for longer than 2-3 minutes. I have had some immediate success using nipple shields, she is happy to feed using those. I didn't comp her for 3 of her 4 feeds today. I'm not sure why the shields are making a difference but they are.

Belinda Tobias isn't interested in sucking/attatching to my breast at all anymore. I've tried to keep the milk in my left breast so I can continue to try but after getting a bad infection in my right nipple (which I am now taking anti-biotics for) I dont know if it will work out. I feel for you. I must say though that DD was formula fed from day one due to me not being able to get any milk out of my breasts in the first days after having her & she is perfectly happy & healthy, of course you agree that is the main thing I know things will all work out for you soon.

Me Tobias still hasn't smiled. he may have done one today but I'm not convinced so not counting it as "first smile". It did look different to his wind smiles though but maybe I wanted it to look different so I convinced myself it looked different IYKWIM. He;s filling out really well & most nights he's sleeping about 10 hours straight for his first sleep, but thats from about 6 or 7pm so I still have to get up at about 4 or 5, thats on a really good night but other nights its about 7 hours for first sleep then every 3 hours after that. So I really cant complain.
I'm feeling like I'm putting on weight, I weighed myself about 2 days ago & I still weighed the same as just after I had Tobias which is about 9 kilos heavier than where I want to be but its also 5 kilos lighter than i was pre-pregnancy so not too bad atm.
Tobias has his circumcision tomorrow at 11:30am. I'm really nervous, I dont want him to scream I just cant wait for it to be over with & healed up. A quick $500......
Re-arranged DD's toys today, got them all out of the lounge room & put them in her bedroom. I have alot I'm getting rid of, I put them on free-cycle but no-one responded so I'll take them to vinnies/salvos now. I will also be selling all my maternity clothes on Ebay as I've decided no more babies! Pregnancy was just too harsh on my body & I'm still sleeping elevated as my pelvis still isn't back to normal! Just trying to clear alot of the "clutter" out of the house... I HATE it!

I hope you're all well & once again sorry it's taken so long for me to catch up....

Danielle_M - Sounds like you've not had a great run in the BF department either. BF is hard and such a complex thing in reality. I've been happy to get this far with it but obviously if I can keep it up would like to but ultimately if not then so be it and I've at least given her 5 good weeks of it.
I'm sure you will see some smiles soon. Chloe is now smiling and i can get her laughing but without the noise yet. It happened just out of the blue last week when i sat and played with her and some toys. I was tickling her bottom lip with the toy and out it came and happily I had the video running at the same time so I captured it.

US - Today we had some inkyfeet items done (foot prints on ceramic tiles and coffee mugs) and then picked up her hospital pics on CD. Happily that is the last of the "newborn" stuff I want to get done while she is still this age. So she has now had; hospital photos at 5 days old; twinkle toes; inkyfeet and photos at studio at 5 weeks old..
Had some minor wins today with BF'ing. Chloe seems happy to feed with nipple shields but not so happy without them. not sure if she just doesn't like my nipple anymore, it tastes weird or her mouth is sore but we have our weight check tomorrow so will have the clinic nurse check her over and also will find out if efforts this week have helped with her weight. I had an apt with my LC from hosi on Friday so hopefully she will be able to help me sort out the issue of her attachment. Just have to struggle through till then.
I have my 6 week checkup on Wednesday which should be interesting and must say not looking forward to it as it also means i have to go for another 2hr GTT (I had GD).. that is all comes back fine....
Anyway I best go have a shower before the little one wakes for a feed..

Night all and take care.