Babies Born August 16th - 31st 2008

Kellie Huge :hug: hun, I hope you (& your kids) get some good sleep soon. It's so hard once their over tired too. I really feel for you.

Had a couple of bad nights here too due to Tobias being constipated. Wed night he was awake every 30 mins & just wouldn't settle. Everytime I got back into bed & my head hit the pillow & I just started to nod off he'd wake & scream! :wall:
Thurs night was better with him waking about every 2 hours.
Yesterday I changed his formula from S26 gold to standard S26 & today he did a good soft poo so hopefully thats the end of his sleeping problems (fingers crossed). Tonight is DH's night to get up to Tobias, even though I have to wake him for the feeds etc (wake DH not Tobias) I still wake but at least I can stay in bed for the feeds. If Tobias wont settle then I'll have to get up & settle him as DH doesnt have the patience. I can sit on the lounge for over an hour through the night settling him back to sleep but when its up to DH then anything longer than about 15 mins is too long then he gets cranky & impatient & I take over. So I dont really get a night off as such.

I really hope we've seen the last of the constipation though!

We just got back from having dinner with DD's best friend Coco & her parents (her mum is my best friend too LOL we met in our mothers group when the girls were a few weeks old) it was a nice night out, we had chinese.

I'm about to head off to bed & try to make the most of my time in bed while I can!

gosh ithought the other night was bad.....well last was worse. lily was soooo sick. she was vomiting every half hour or so from 1030. luckily i went to bed @ 8. at least i got a few hrs sleep. dh got practically none. im lucky he was home and not working. i wouldnt have been able to feed liam and look after lil last night. she seems better now so hopefully it will be a better night. of course liam had an ok night last night! though still awake for a few hrs at one stage (cant remember the time!!). ok gotta go the little man is calling again, hes really unsettled tonight :(

(((((((BIG HUGS)))))))) Every one sounds like we all need it seems im not the only one lacking in sleep im really feeling it to night so tired I really hope Eireann settles she was very unsettled this afternoon felt like I was feeding her constantly and she wouldnt settle and then screamed the place down so I gave her a bath to take her mind off what ever was bothering her seems to have worked she has a feed and is down asleep now I really should do the same LOL

no personals as I think we are all in the same boat so heres hoping we all have good night sleep ready to face what ever tomorrow brings

oh just wondering Eireann belly button came off but its been nearly two weeks and it seems to be a bit bloody some times when i change her its like it pops out when she get really cross and then is goes back in but it worring me a little Im hoping to get her weighed monday so will ask the health nurse or go to the GP just wondering if any one else baby belly button bleed a bit after the bit fell off

Nimah: gabriellas bellybutton does the same ,i was told it does that when it falls off too early ..as long as its not infected it sould be ok .. we just keep gab's clean and dry ..

yep another unsetteld baby here too .. i am pretty busy with work and try to organise my house and plan a huge party but i cant even get started as i have gab attatched to my boob every 15 mins ...

she used to be a "happy spitter" where she would just vomit up the milk she didnt want , but now she gets really uncomfortable when she is about to spit up .. then the pains come , i dont really want to go see the local CHN as i think i would look a bit dumb if her behavior was just normal , and my doctors are closed today and my gp is booked out for ages ..

my nipples are becomming sore again from her feeding or needing to suck all the time ...

lea - good luck with planning the party hun ... hope you find some time to get things done and that gab settles down ... does she spew back much? does she spew on every feed? just asking cause Ali is a spewer as well but only every few feeds and never on the formula feed we give her at bedtime she only spews back on my milk ???

niamh - hope everything is ok with the belly button ... and that your little one settles soon ..

kell - oh hun big :hug: to you as well i can only imagine what it must be like and having the build up of sleep deprivation wont be helping either .... i can drive after next week - I could come visit you and try and give you a hand or a break .... anything to try and help you out hun ... you are only 30mins away from me thereabouts !

danielle - poor little tobias - hopefully the change in formula is what he needed and he can poop easily now ! so hard when they are this little you wish they could talk and tell you whats wrong hey !! glad you had a nice dinner though feels good to get out and about hey !


we are doing well. went to the hossy yesterday to visit new babies, a friend had a daughter kyla and then i saw two girls from my birthing classes as well and their little bubs and caught up with all the nurses and lactation nurses who were there and they all agreed how big Ali is now she has stacked on a bit of weight - not fat just chubby cheeked ! Yesterday was sooo hot here Ali was unsettled and sweating all afternoon and feeding every 2 hours not like her but thirsty weather .... this was her first hot day so a bit unsettling and now today is overcast with thunder this morning .... can never pick it hey.!

I managed to get out and do gardening yesterday for about 30mins to help DH ... felt good but wasnt long enough as Ali cat naps chronically of an afternoon ... in the heat from yesterday no wonder though hey !

Hope everyone has had a better night / day ...

Mel
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melsta: she spews on every feed , so up to 8 or 9 times a day she spews , and at night too, i have to sleep on a towell to catch it ...

omg how expensive are parties !! we are having a naming ceremony and a birthday party for both kids next month , its going to cost about $500 ...eeeeeekkk

Well, things are just going from bad to worse....Lily has had temps of up to 39.4 and is just so clingy and sooky. And she's got conjunctivitis....I can't move without her crying. Liam was awake from 1.30-5.30 last night, before that Lily only wanted me so I had her on me half the night, then going to feed and settle Liam, I am so sick of having people attached to me. DH is sick today too, with bad gastro and a fever. Liam still isn't sleeping properly, day or night. I can't put him to sleep any other way thn to put him in the sling. My back is killing me from holding him and feeding him. I got about 3hrs sleep if that. I am over trying to sleep. Who needs to sleep, not me!! Sorry, Im in a really foul mood. And I'm so teary. I'm really getting to the end of my tether, it's so lucky that DH is home still, I would have lost it by now if he wasn't. Liam's waking again now after only an hours sleep. I tried feeding, bathing, feeding him to see if it would make him sleepy after he's been awake for hours, but no, it still took about half and hour to put him down. After he screamed and whinged and wriggled for ages...the nurse is going to call tomorrow to see how we went with the strategies she gave us for his sleep, well I think I can safely say I have failed miserably. Ok enough whinging.....sorry for the downer again, and the me post.

Wouldn't you know it, Liam has been sleeping since about 2pm, then Lil had a sleep for 2hrs. He woke for a feed then went straight back to sleep and has been there ever since. Little *****. Of course I chose not to rest until too late, though I got 40mins, better than nothing.

Mel, thanks for your offer of help. I wouldn't mind meeting one day??

Ok gotta go, I opened my mouth too soon, he's awake........

kellieem:hug::hug: Oh I hope your feeling better you poor thing your nackered now and it is no wonder dont feel bad for moaning hope its helped you getting it out and mind your self sending you wee ones nice sleeping vibes :hug:

*charmalea* thats good to know I bathed her last night and its been much better no more bleeding so im very happy with that :)

hope every one is getting some rest its so hard the first few weeks and I keep thinking it will get easier as baby gets bigger but then I dont want her to grow to quick either

Im still tired Eireann didnt sleepto bad last night she seems to wake between half 3 and fuss till about half 4 or 5 am so im up and fixing her winding and that on till she settles then I know she passes out and has a great sleep but then our DS who is 2 wakes up and comes in to our room DH is getting up with him but is starting work tuesday and I know ill have to get up and im not looking forward to that at all

:hug: big hugs to every one and sending babies nice sleepy vibes us mammys need sleep

Not much time to do personals. I will try to come back and do them when i have more time.

kell- I hope things settle for you soon hun.

niamh- Chardonnay's belly button did that too. I was told to just wash it gently in the bath, then dry it (I use cotton tips to dry it) and put a folded tissue over her belly button and the nappy holds it on. When i did this it wouldnt bleed, if i didnt put the tissue in, it would bleed again. Took about a week to settle for her.

Im wondering if Chardonnay might have colic or reflux, somethings going on with her belly and feeding. She keeps screaming out in pain and gets fussy and has started vomitting after some feeds. Have to ask the chn on tuesday.

I hope you are all well and again i apologise for the lack of personals.

Talk soon.

Kristi :D

Hi Everyone,

Long time no post! It's just taken me about an hour to read all the posts to catch up!

Most of you sound like you are doing it tough. I feel almost guilty that I have had such an easy run so far. :redface:

My mum has been here since the day before Beth was born. She accurately predicted months ago that my little one would arrived on the 20th as this was my great grandma's birthday. She would have turned 100.

Mum has been so helpful. I have barely washed a dish or an item of clothing since she arrived and I have only cooked for pleasure not for necessity. Dad arrived Saturday last week and it's been lovely watching him bond with Beth. I never grew up with any grandfathers so I hope that he and my FIL are around for a long time so she gets to have some quality pop and poppa time.

They head back to Australia on Wednesday, however DH and I have had our first taste of life on our own as they have spent this weekend in London with friends. But as lovely has it has been having them around I am looking forward to settling into my new life with just the three of us. It still feels very surreal!

Beth really is quite an angel. She feeds every 3-4 hours and breastfeeding has been quite easy for me so far (touch wood) which I am thankful for. She is unsettled from between 9 pm but and likes to be walked around but generally she is asleep by midnight. She then wakes for a feed around 3 ish but goes to sleep very easily and only wants one boob. Day feeds she now has both.

She is so alert when she is awake and loves to look around. She hates lying in her pram and much prefers to be be upright. Her neck is really strong and she already has so much deliberate movement.

Hmm just realised that I could go on and on about her.....LOL I bet all us new mums are the same!

Anyway, am well, am very happy and am looking forward to sharing the upcoming highs (and lows) with you all.

There are photos of Beth on our website for those who are interested.
Elisabeth Suzanne

Less than 13 weeks until we are back in Australia!!

Erin

PS I hope to do personals next time, but for now I am off to bed. :)

Eirn lovely name that :D thats great it is all going well for you nice to read and yep I could go on the same about my little girl and the rest of my boys they never stop to amaze you and make you smile its great even with the tiredness one smile makes it all worth while. had a look at your pictures she is beautiful and so alert :dance:


Kristi when i bathed her i gently cleand her belly button with cotton wool and its been great no more bleeding so im very happy with that I was afraid it was hurting her I always freak out over the belly button my DH thinks its very funny think with Eireann being my 4th Ild be used to it by now nope make my toes curl if I think ive hurt her,

well last night went better Eireannfell asleep at about 10 and slept till 1am had a feed and went back to sleep I know she had another feed but not sure what time it was, she then was wide awake at 5 big dirty nappy and was looking all around and I am worse I was talking to her LOL but im sure she gave me a grin she was looking right at me and it was like she was trying to smile back so cute

hope every one else is ok :hug:

Well, thankfully I can say the past few days have been better with the kids, though I got Lily's bug night before last and was vomiting and had high fevers all night, not pleasant! Lil's still pretty sick too with fevers and conjunctivitis, poor little bear. Liam has slept better the past few nights which is good I would have gone insane with sleep deprivation other wise!
Ok gotta go and do some house work while it's quiet....

Oh Erin im so glad you said something so positive...i too am having a wonderful time with Thomas but didnt want to say anything while others seemed to be having such a tough time. Thomas is a very "good" baby. I know he feeds through the night but never have a clue how many times or how long inbetween as i stay asleep :) I have tried everything to say awake LOL but we just end up asleep together, its lovely. Eve comes in at some stage, normally around 1am and grace at about 6 but we all stay asleep til 8! Thomas has one unsettled time a day but hay.... i just let him feed, and feed and feed... then bath then feed then his gone.

It has only taken me three weeks but im back to talking about that 4th LOL

Hi girls, sorry no chance of me catching up on personals at the moment. Very warn out here, Tobias has hardly slept today, last night was ok although I was up with him between 2:30 & 4am as he wouldn't settle after his bottle for some reason grrrrrrr. Today he is grizzly & fights going to sleep with his big eyes instead of sleepy eyes. He's asleep now so I'm trying to rest on the lounge a bit before velcro boy wakes again, I should be doing the dishes though.

I booked his circumcision for Monday the 29th Sept. I knew it would cost money but $500?!? Apparently you get $90 back from medicare.... woopdi-doo! So now all of a sudden we need to come up with $500 in 2 weeks as he has to have it done by 6 weeks of age & he'll be 6 weeks on the day he gets it done. Oh well, at least it will be over & done with, although I'm sooooooooooo not looking forward to him crying from it :( I almost dont want to be there but I also want to be able to comfort him afterwards....

We went to the opening of the school our kids will be attending last Sunday. It's just had 4.9 million dollars worth of renovating. They just built a whole new school really LOL. It looks great & DD is so excited to be going to that "big school" come 2010, so it will only be a year old when she starts there.

My doctor called me the other day saying that the swab they took from my right nipple shows an infection & germs growing there so I need to go in & get some anti-biotics for it. It's awful & hurts so much! I must find the time to get in there & get the meds.

Once again sorry for no personals. I hope you're all well.

Milly dont feel bad about feeling so good, you have every right to feel good & we're all happy for those of you having a smooth & happy time with your new bubs. As our bubs are getting older now, hopefully there'll be more of us settling into life with a new baby & feeling great aswell soon.

PS look at my new AV! My glasses are gone though as they dont have a baby wearing av with glasses LOL

Hiya girls,

Well we have had an ok few days, except Lily is still sick. My poor little monkey is so lethargic and just wants mumma. All I have done with her today is sit on the lounge and watch tv, we've seen In the night garden 3 times already and now I'm watching Humphery. She vomitted in her bed again last night and it was everywhere, in her hair and blankets, ugh!! I was so trying hard not to vomit all over her. I managed not to thank goodness, but it was close a few times. I had to sponge the vomit out of her hair cause she went psyco if we went near the bath, ohh it was so disgusting!! We're going to the dr's again if she still has no energy tomorrow. We've been twice already with the same thing....
Liam has been ok. Still not going to sleep very well but in saying that he had a 4hr sleep from 10.30 this morning...I wish he'd sleep like that at night! My boobs were busting though, they're used to being emptied every 2, 2 1/2hrs at the most! He has a few really unsettled times in the day. It is all still really varied, he has no flow to the day at all. His body clock must be really stuffed up!

Ok gotta go he's calling me....

Danielle - geez $500 that is absurd and only $90 back - I agree woppdi - do ... hope the antibiotics clear things up for you huin - sounds very painful and not nice at all ... the things we go through hey ! We need to arrange a catch up too ... maybe we could arrange a group catch up with all the SYD based mums and bubs if anyone else is interested !

Kell - would love to meet up hun will sms you and we can arrange a time when Lily is feeling better and you are more up to visitors ... Glad to hear LIam had a better night but not good at all about Lily ...

Milly - yay on Thomas being a good bub ... I think Ali is pretty good as well but I agree it is heart wrenching hearing how tough everyone is having it at the moment I really feel for you all ... but glad someone is doing well !

Erin - good to hear from you and glad that things are going well. Enjoy the time with your mum and you and your DH are lucky you have experience alone time ... I crave that at the moment but know all good things come to those who wait !!!

Niamh - sounds like things are going well for you too and good to hear that Eireann's belly button is better ... I dont think it would matter what # bub it was you still go through the same angst with each one in terms of hurting them ... just shows how much we love them !

Kristi, Lea, Belinda - hope you are all doing ok !


We are doing well. Yesterday Ali had her first sleeps in her big cot in her own room. I managed to catch the tired signs and put her in her cot just before she really went to sleep and she put herself to sleep properly and had two big cot sleeps so I am stoked.

Today we went to Mothers Group and went through the introductions etc .. there are 9 mums in my group and I went to lunch with two of them and one only lives a 10 min walk form me which will be nice to have someone else nice and close ...

Other than that we have Ali's 6 week check up tomorrow and my 6 week check. Although I drove today and got myself and Ali out and about with no one - felt weird but then I felt all empowered and in control and it was just Ali and me and I managed to do it so I felt pretty good with myself first trip out by ourselves and all !!! :lol:

Hope everyone having better days ...

Thinking of you all and big hugs to everyone :hug:

Mel
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Well, thankfully I can say the past few days have been better with the kids, though I got Lily's bug night before last and was vomiting and had high fevers all night, not pleasant! Lil's still pretty sick too with fevers and conjunctivitis, poor little bear. Liam has slept better the past few nights which is good I would have gone insane with sleep deprivation other wise!
Ok gotta go and do some house work while it's quiet....

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Kellieem - Oh sorry to hear you are having such a rough time. Fingers crossed that things are getting better...:hug::hug:

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Oh Erin im so glad you said something so positive...i too am having a wonderful time with Thomas but didnt want to say anything while others seemed to be having such a tough time. Thomas is a very "good" baby. I know he feeds through the night but never have a clue how many times or how long inbetween as i stay asleep :) I have tried everything to say awake LOL but we just end up asleep together, its lovely. Eve comes in at some stage, normally around 1am and grace at about 6 but we all stay asleep til 8! Thomas has one unsettled time a day but hay.... i just let him feed, and feed and feed... then bath then feed then his gone.

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Milly - That is wonderful to hear and must say I feel the same. I haven't had the massive sleep deprivation that I've read about but I didn't want to say anything either. Glad to hear Thomas is doing well.

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Hi girls, sorry no chance of me catching up on personals at the moment. Very warn out here, Tobias has hardly slept today, last night was ok although I was up with him between 2:30 & 4am as he wouldn't settle after his bottle for some reason grrrrrrr. Today he is grizzly & fights going to sleep with his big eyes instead of sleepy eyes. He's asleep now so I'm trying to rest on the lounge a bit before velcro boy wakes again, I should be doing the dishes though.

My doctor called me the other day saying that the swab they took from my right nipple shows an infection & germs growing there so I need to go in & get some anti-biotics for it. It's awful & hurts so much! I must find the time to get in there & get the meds.

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Daneille_M - Hope the antibiotics fix things up really quickly. Can be nothing worse than having sore "bits" and those "bits" are being used so frequently. I had a few blood blisters and grazes and that was painful enough let alone what I can only imagine you are experiencing. :hug::hug:

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Kristi, Lea, Belinda - hope you are all doing ok !

We are doing well. Yesterday Ali had her first sleeps in her big cot in her own room. I managed to catch the tired signs and put her in her cot just before she really went to sleep and she put herself to sleep properly and had two big cot sleeps so I am stoked.

Today we went to Mothers Group and went through the introductions etc .. there are 9 mums in my group and I went to lunch with two of them and one only lives a 10 min walk form me which will be nice to have someone else nice and close ...

Other than that we have Ali's 6 week check up tomorrow and my 6 week check. Although I drove today and got myself and Ali out and about with no one - felt weird but then I felt all empowered and in control and it was just Ali and me and I managed to do it so I felt pretty good with myself first trip out by ourselves and all !!! :lol:

Hope everyone having better days ...

Thinking of you all and big hugs to everyone :hug:

Mel
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Mel We are doing good thanks. Had a better day today. Our weekend was really good but Monday/Tuesday were not so great. Glad to hear Ali had her sleeps in her cot, big step and sounds like you approached it really well.
Glad mothers group went off without any trouble.

US - As for us we had an unsettled Monday and Tuesday. My milk supply dropped off again and I didn't respond as quickly to the motillium as I did the first time. Chloe was not sleeping or when she would sleep it had to be on me. As soon as I put her in the cradle she would scream her heart out so I resorted to co-sleeping with her Monday night after she went till 2.30am screaming. Last night I had nothing to feed her and she was pulling and tugging like it was an empty bag. Luckily I had some expressed so I fed her with that and sure enough she crashed out at around 10am. She woke at 7am this morning and to my surprise I woke up looking like dolly parton so she has been super happy today. I think she may have had a little growth spurt to just make the situation more fun but has been all good today. I've been expressing when i could and have a good 100ml in waiting should i need it.

We've also managed two very successful bath sessions. Chloe had previously screamed during her baths, all except 1 in hospital. But our last 2 baths have been really good with no screaming and her appearing to enjoy laying in the water.

Anyway I better be going, Chloe due for feed soon and then it's off to bed for what I hope is another 8-9 hour sleep. :)

ok .. i dont like hearing how sick kellie and family have been ... i really hope you all recover soon ... just rest up kel, and try and get some rest and new dvd's !!

well , i havent been "sleep deprived" as such but with gabriella being really fussy and nixon chucking a million tanties a day i have been really stressed .. a few days back gab fed every 30 mins in the evening and woke screaming through the night .. i jsut had to feed her , but then she has bad wind so she was inconslable (sp) and i was getting stressed , to top it off the next day DH hurt his back and was unable to move so i had to pick up the slack and do everything ... that night gabby had a crying fit and wanted to feed allll the time , so i tried to express and about 15mls each side came out .... and each feed she would suck so hard then cry so i thought i must be low on milk .... before i went to bed i took maxalon went to bed and tried to realx but ended up with panic attacks , a sure sign i am taking on waay to much ... i hope this doesnt turn in to ocd and pnd again ... but im not sure if it was the maxalon that gave me the panic attacks , but im not taking it again to find out!!

in the end i gave into dh's pressure to get formula so i sent my mum to get some of the RTD formula , i didnt want to get a whole tin so i got the popper ones .. and gave her some at the last feed before bed .. she didnt take the whole feed only about 60mls .. but that was enough to fill her up and clam down .. the next day and ever since she has been settled .. it was soo good to see her awake and not crying .. it may have just been a growth spurt.. she also has conjuctivitis...:(

so for now i am feeding from the right and expressing the left as her hungry days left it soo sore .. by i have some milk in the fridge a freezer and will get a to up of ebm before bed jic ...

i can not get gab to sleep in the cradle so for now the velcro girl is in the bed still , (danielle , gabriella is made of velcro too !!!!)

Lea - glad to hear the formula settled Gab down .. we do the same with Ali of a night and her last feed for the evening is always a formula feed and she is so much more settled and contented ... How id DH back doing now? Things sound so hectic for you and I hope that you can ease the stress you are under atm hun ....

Belinda - glad to hear that the supply is back and what sounds like in good form too! Growth spurts indeed when Ali had hers she was always feeding and screaming but now she has settled a bit ... by the way we ran into Antoinette's husband today at the hospital and they had a little baby boy ... He is taking 8 weeks off work to help her out and they had him Monday afternoon just after midday I think ... we think Sharon went home yesterday as they had seen her in hospital still so there is only Tanya and Gianni left now !


Well today we had Ali's 6 week check and Im pleased to say she has been given a perfect bill of health with no problems. Now I just need the same clearance at my check tomorrow ... she has been the best little bubba today just looking around when awake and not really screaming or whinging much at all .. maybe the 6 week turnover is around!

Had to laugh though as when he pulled her off the scales she peed on the floor as he was carrying her back to the bed and she did a huge poop right before we took her in .. I was just praying she didnt pee or poop all over him .... but she is now 4.3kg so she had put on 1 kilo in the 6 weeks since she was born so looks very healthy and very long!

Hope everyone having a good day today and had a good night ... Kell I am sending :hug: and :pray: your way that all sicknesses in your household are getting much better hun ... xox

Mel

hello everyone
I had a beautiful little girl on the 23rd of august 2008 and i already have an 8 year old son but because of the big gap i feel like a first time mum again.
im a bit out of the loop with this online parenting stuff but i think its great, its been so helpful.
hope youz dont mind me jumpin in but it would be great to chat with other parents with the same age babies cause im pretty sure everyone else is sick of my baby talk allready:lol:

Tasha:D

Hi girls,

I am SO not getting much time to come in here and keep up with you lot yet. I guess 6 kids SHOULD do that to me by now though hey :lol:

Welcome Tasha, my name is Kristi, mum to 6 kids aged 8 and under. I used to be here alot, but since having #6 im not here as much because i am still trying to get with the program. You are most welcome to join in here and congratulations on your new addition :)

We are trying to sort out Chardonnay and figure out if she is lactose intolerant or has reflux. I took her to the CHN on tuesday, we are going weekly at the moment to watch her weight because my last 2 babies have been failure to thrive, and so my CHN can stop me from falling in a pit like i did last time. She is such a supportive and caring CHN, i am very lucky to have her. Anyway, C got weighed and she weighs 3.37kg now. Shes still in 0000 clothes. CHN said she is very strong and has the neck control of a 6 to 8 wk old baby. C is starting to have more awake time now, and i have gotten a smile in response to my voice a few times now.

The kids have really embraced her, which is excellent and they are extremely helpful.

DH goes back to work on tuesday, so its back to reality very soon for me. I have my endoscopy on monday.

The last week has been a bit rough because tuesday was the 3 yrs since i gave birth to my precious angel Rubee Cait who i lost at 18wks and had at 19wks 6 days. Every year the week leading up to the day is always a bit rough, but generally the actual day is ok. Its a bitter sweet week for us, having her bday on the 16th and our wedding anniversary on the 19th.

So its our wedding anniversary tomorrow and DH has just told me he is taking me to a nice restaurant tomorrow night, so that will be lovely.

Im still breast feeding C but with low supply i have to top her up with formula.

Finally, i am starting to feel human again and i figured out why. I came off my antidepressants on monday and am now more "with the program". So many things have settled down since stopping the antidepressants, i didnt realise how much they were affecting me physically. The only thing now is im going to get into trouble from my drs for coming off and the OCD is probably going to get worse, but what can i do? I need to be able to function for my kids and i need to be able to concentrate enough to drive safely (which the ad's were affecting my alertness).

Sorry for no personals again.

I hope you are all doing well and babies are thriving :)

Kristi :D

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We are trying to sort out Chardonnay and figure out if she is lactose intolerant or has reflux.

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Kristi, same here , gab is extremly windy and is in pain when ever she lays on her back and always screams after a feed and spews heaps too ... and she has gained weight but last weigh she was still under 4 kgs ( which was a week ago) next week when i take her to the chn i will see about it then .. i always seem to get her settled and then she off again , and my boobs are so sore from her sucking .. also too i wanted to come off my A/D but i started to get panic attacks the other night so i have kept taking them ...its good that you feel a bit more normal now .. i think i have gotten used to the numbness you end up feeling on antidepressants that i think if i went off them and started to feel normal and didnt have the control of my emotions , i would go crazy all over again :lol:

last night i gave her a top up of ebm ( which she has right after a b/f as she was still so hungry) and she took 50mls and was calm ... but she didnt go too sleep and dh was holding her (i was in bed ) so he dumped her in with me because he really wanted to play xbox :rolleyes: i didnt mind though he needs down time too ... so i fed her (again) and off to sleep we went ... she didnt wake till 4.30 when her farting woke me up and did a huge poop which woke her up ... then i couldnt get back to sleep ... then nixon was screaming so i went into him but he was still asleep so it must have been a nightmare.... so i layed awake planning all the things i have to do today and now that i am up i dont feel like doing any of them :lol:

well its not good news about DH's back ... he has bulging dics all along his lower back and sadly has a degenerative disease:( im so sad as he his my rock and i always have known him to be super healthy ...

but with treatment he can maintain his lifestyle....

well i have planned a huge party for the 19th oct .. it will be for welcoming Gabriella and nixons 2nd bday and on the same day will be both their naming ceremonies ...
i am so excited about it .. orderd the invites and now just have to think about the catering .. woolies do huge platters of mini wraps and finger foods and are only about $34.95 each so it seems like a good price ... i want no fuss food .. we usually do bbq's but this time i want simplicity and no mess to wash up ... everything will be recyclable .. well most of it anyway ... i have chosen a theme of green and white as green is a unisex coulor and white on an octobers day sould look really nice .. the green will be a nice lime green ...

only one month to go ... im pretty excited about this !!

Hi ladies,

Ohh, thanks for the well wishes girls.

Well things are looking a bit better here. Lily seems to be on the mend, no vomit or fever for a day and a half....fingers crossed its all good. Sucky thing is though I have woken with a sore throat and Liam's nose is really stuffed up...fingers crossed it all stops there!!
We are going to Canberra to visit some friends today so I'm hoping everything stays good. We're staying for the weekend, our first trip away dince Lily was born!! Should be interesting. I'm hoping the drive is good too, only 3hrs, so not too long, but we'll see. 3hrs is forever when you have 2 screaming babies in the car! We might go to Floriade and the war memorial while we're there. I've never been. I'm looking forward to getting out of this sick house!

Lea and Kristi, I think Liam is sensitive to dairy too. I have just stopped having it. I got some soy milk. It might have helped. I had chocolate the other night and OMG!! We had a terrible night with him. I'm not game enough to try to reintroduce dairy in case there's a repeat of that night. We had a great night last night, just his 3hrly wakes for a feed and straight back to sleep, YAYYYYY!! First time since hospital that we haven't been awake half the night.

Ok gotta go and finish packing to be ready for rest time, hopefully they'll both sleep the whole way ther....I think that might be wishful thinking though!

I hope everyone is well. :D

Hi no time but...
Kel glad things are settling down for you,

Lea: the party sounds nice, i love lime or apple green! I did the woolies platters for evies baptism and there were GREAT! am doing them again for a bridal shower on the 3rd october for a friend!

Kristi: Sorry that this is a hard time for you! Rubee cait...such a lovely name, thinking of you.

Welcome those that are new..

Hi Erin and danielle

US: DH has finished his three month training...which took 5 months LOL..... Thomas and i flew to sydney to spend the night with him last night...very nice but i am tired now :) DH due home sunday for 3 days ! yippy...

Hi,

Lea and kell, sounds like our little ones are having the same issues with milk and feeding. Chardonnay fusses and fidgits, wakes easily, will scream in pain when shes sound asleep, seems to want to be upright or on me or in her swing, vomits ages after a feed, gags and vomits, gets a snuffly nose. She brings up her wind easily though so that directs me away from looking at colic and more at LI or reflux. She has a large amount of reflux symptoms, but she can have times where she is settled, so im just not sure. She seems to have improved a little on the LF formula, but still doing the same things. My CHN said to monitor her and we will try and figure out whats going on with her.

Lea- IKWYM about getting used to the numb feeling on AD's, in a way its sort of good to be a bit like that. Well i think so with how anxious and wound up i get. Its a hard situation for me, i seem to react to all AD's with bad side effects but they help me with my anxiety, unfortunately the side effects get so much that i cant stay on them. Like they cause me to get the shakes badly, or affect my mental alertness or sleep. They had me on zoloft just now, tmi but i have had diarrhoea for a month non stop, now ive stopped taking them, the diarrhoea has stopped. They were also causing me to not sleep hardly at all and affecting my mental alertness. I would see/hear things but they wouldnt register for a long time making my reaction time slow. When driving, this is extremely dangerous and i cant put my kids in danger like that. Now i am off them, all these things have settled. I dont know what to do, to do CBT for my OCD i need to be on AD's to be calm enough to challenge my compulsions. Sorry to hear about your DH's back, that sounds painful for him. YAY on the party you are planning, it sounds like lots of fun, gorgeous colours you have picked, i love that green :D

kell- I am SO pleased to hear you had a good night last night with Liam and that the sickness in your house looks to be shifting, its about time you got a break. Have a good time in Canberra, i hope the kids are good on the trip.

Milly- Thanks for your thoughts, i really appreciate it. YAY on DH finishing his training, thats excellent!!

Look!! I managed to get personals done :lol:!! The first time in over a month i think.

Have a good weekend girls :D

Kristi :D

hello everyone thanks for making me feel welcome:D
My baby had bad reflux so I was told by my GP to put her on S26 AR , that stopped the spewing but made her badly constipated and was awful to mix up...too thick and she also had trouble burping but after struggling on that for a week a friend told me about novalac AR which we are finding fantastic:dance: she burps, poops and can finish a bottle in about 10 minutes instead of the hour it was taking with the other stuff.
sounds like everyone is very busy at the moment :)
its great to read your posts Ive picked up some great hints
bye for now
tasha

Can only make this quick as a storm is getting closer by the minute.

Finished a quilt for Thomas today, floor size its so cute (so a but bigger than cot size). Different after getting so "pink" for the last 4 years....Weird not to have a fairy on it LOL. Will take a photo and put it on FB.

Hope you are all well, :)

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Belinda - glad to hear that the supply is back and what sounds like in good form too! Growth spurts indeed when Ali had hers she was always feeding and screaming but now she has settled a bit ... by the way we ran into Antoinette's husband today at the hospital and they had a little baby boy ... He is taking 8 weeks off work to help her out and they had him Monday afternoon just after midday I think ... we think Sharon went home yesterday as they had seen her in hospital still so there is only Tanya and Gianni left now !

Well today we had Ali's 6 week check and Im pleased to say she has been given a perfect bill of health with no problems. Now I just need the same clearance at my check tomorrow ... she has been the best little bubba today just looking around when awake and not really screaming or whinging much at all .. maybe the 6 week turnover is around!

Had to laugh though as when he pulled her off the scales she peed on the floor as he was carrying her back to the bed and she did a huge poop right before we took her in .. I was just praying she didnt pee or poop all over him .... but she is now 4.3kg so she had put on 1 kilo in the 6 weeks since she was born so looks very healthy and very long!

Hope everyone having a good day today and had a good night ...

Mel

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Mel - If this is a growth spurt then it's lasting ages. Been about 3 or 4 days now and still going on.. She woke at 3.30am and i fed her this morning and then back to sleep just after 4am but in bed with me. Then woke 7am for a feed. Unlike her to wake at night so I'm assuming it must be a growth spurt so hopefully it'll be finished soon. I'm going to the clinic tomorrow to get her weighed and also because she has been really windy these 3 or 4 days and waking after an hour of sleep and screaming her lungs out so I'm not sure if the is colicy or has reflux. I can't seem to put her down without her screaming in pain. *speak of the devil she is crying*...

... ok so 5 hours later I'm back to finish my post.. :) hehehe She hasn't settled all day again and just managed to go and pick up her hospital photos and get some groceries. I think I may have found the culprit to her unsettledness!!! I've been eating these rice cakes that I love but they have italian herbs and tomato flavouring. i'm wondering if it's been upsetting her belly as she has been pooing like a trooper all day and last few days and when i think about it I probably started eating them around when she became unsettled.

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hello everyone
I had a beautiful little girl on the 23rd of august 2008 and i already have an 8 year old son but because of the big gap i feel like a first time mum again.
im a bit out of the loop with this online parenting stuff but i think its great, its been so helpful.
hope youz dont mind me jumpin in but it would be great to chat with other parents with the same age babies cause im pretty sure everyone else is sick of my baby talk allready:lol:

Tasha:D

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Tasha - Welcome to the thread

Anyway i'm off to try and get some more stuff done while she is finally asleep.

Hi girls.... I finally found some time to pop in and introduce myself and little Arabella. She was born on 28-08-08 by c.s and weighed 6lb10oz.

Hopefully I can make it in each day and keep up with what's happening with all your little bundles of joy.

I am extremely lucky that Arabella is very placid and I get a decent sleep each night - might I add that I am sleeping so much better with a new baby than what I was when I was pg and suffering with pelvic separation LOL.

Talk again soon. xx

Hi girls,

Well, we had an alright weekend, But Lily was really clingy and sooky, and still coughing really abdly. I took her to the dr again and her ears are playing up again too. She's on another course of antibiotics, her third in about 5wks. I'm hoping they do something this time. We have an appointment with an ear specialist but not until november so we have to try to manage it until then.
Liam is going well. He's still hit and miss with sleeping, but is happier to go down into his rocker during the day to sit there, and not be velcro'd to me. He's feeding really well and is smiling and trying to laugh and talk, he makes little squeeks and noises when I chat to him, it's sooo cute! We are still cosleeping and I'm reluctant to stop cause I get more sleep with him in my bed, but the sucky thing is DH won't sleep with us and is on the lounge.
I have my 5-6wk check up soon for Liam, and I should really go to the dr for my check up. I don't remember getting one when I had Lily...
Anyway, gotta go the boy is stirring. I hope everyone is well.

Nic Welcome hun, great to see you here! Congrats on little Arabella :)

Kellie I hope Lily isn't in too much pain with her ear poor little thing!

Sorry I haven't been posting. I have been reading your posts so am pretty much up to date with you all I just haven't been up to doing a big personal post.

Been very stressed here. DH & I are at each others throats everyday for about the past 2 weeks. I wont go into it but its driving me mental.

Tobias has been good, gaining lots of weight. Into sz 000 & quickly out-growing the newborn sized huggies nappies. I bought some MCN's but he's too small for them & I dont have any money to buy more atm so using the disposables we have which I managed to pick up for cheap off ebay from a lady who lives near me & had opened boxes from when her little one grew out of them. He sleeps for about 7 hours straight for his first night time sleep which is currently from about 8pm, then 4 hours after that one. I'm trying to get his long sleep starting a little later though so I get more sleep in bed haha. He's also awake alot during the day now.

I still havent had a chance to get my anti-biotics for my right nipple infection. I went to the medical centre twice today but the wait was far too long with Tobias with me so I hope to get in there sometime when there's not much wait as I need to get rid of this infection. Sorry if TMI but its got an awful smell to it now which is gross & I know not a good sign. I also need a pap test as I'm now almost a year over-due, cant let that go!

I hope everyone is well & I hope to catch up on personals when I'm in a better state of mind.

Danielle, :comfort: I hope things aren't too serious with DH. If you would like to get out one day and meet up, we could, I'm not really that far away, I'm sure there's somewhere in between we could find. Maybe it will get your mind off things, you sound quite stressed out and thatis not good :( .
Liam is getting really big too, DH weighed him with him (kwim??) and according to our scales he's now 5.3kg!!! He's out of his 000 bonds suits and even some of his other clothes are small. He definately doesn't fit into huggies nappies and hasn't for a week or two. But we use Aldi and they are bigger.
You need to go to the dr right NOW!!!! Your nipple sounds really damaged and infected, not to mention sore. I need a pap test too, I don't even remember when I got one done. Before Lily was born, even conceived, so at least 2yrs ago...probably more, since I was pg for 3mths before she was born too, then a few months before she was conceived......
I love your ticker pic, it's very cute, I'm trying hard to get a nice one of Lily and Liam, but it's just not happening!! I have a thousand dodgy pics of them together, LOL!
Ok going to bath my little monkey. I hope things are calm for you tonight and :hug: again hun.

oh kel... poor lily. glad things are sounding somewhat better for you!

danielle: you do sound stressed, hope things calm down with dh soon.

thomas is out of 0000 now and almost 000 but more from his length, i am going to go a weigh him today. Hay all the elastic in my MCNs has failed... thats 24 nappies! they are bumgenious.... what is everyone else using? i have had them for 18months but thats not long when they are $28 each.....

off to get breakfast :)

hi all ,

danielle i hope your nipple gets better soon .. it sounds sooo painful ..
I have to see a specialist in toowong sometime this week or soon , both for me and Gabriella ..
I saw a clinc nurse monday and G was 4 kgs .. so 500grams since birth .. its not heaps but not too little kwim .. so i got sent to a LC as i said i am thinking of weaning from my left boob , i just cant stand the pain it brings , and we went over the symptoms ive been having and have ruled out mastits, thrush , vasospam and poor attachment ...

she believes i have poor protractility of the nipple , meaning it doesnt stretch as much as it should , each feed G makes clicking sounds and is fussy the milk dibbles out her mouth and she swallows heaps of air ... but on the right side i could feed upsidedown in water while doing backstroke if i felt like it and not have any problems ...
and seeing as i had the same problem feeding nix i better get it checked .. and she still feed every 30mins when she is awake , her longest sleep being the night time one and early morning

Gabriella is still really spewy and often projectile vomits .. and it always happens after feeding from the left side and it seems to always be around 3am and when there are clean sheets on the bed ..so i am geting her checked for reflux ..

nixon is ****inf me off sooooooo bad right now , he isnext to me chucking the biggest tanty because i wouldnt let him spray powder all over the room, so now he is hitting me and pulling the cord on my hoody from my jumper , which he has pulled all the way out .. grr his tantys are soo often these days .. i try to play with him , but hes always played by himself and quite happy to do so .. he never really wants my attention when i want to give it to him , but when i cant really give my attention to him is when he wants it .. he wont take a day nap in a big bed , only when we are out in the car he will sleep in the day .. so by the time i have to pick dh up he is feral .. its only a short drive to the station and usually he is asleep by the time we get there , so is asleep in the car at about 5.30-6ish then have to wake him and is cranky all through dinner , then after his bath doenst want to go to bed and chucks tanties ...

its sooo draining and im over it , i just dont know what to do ..

Milly : i use Baby BeeHinds ...and they are great , i dont like using pockets or nappies with microfleece in them as nix gets rashy and can smell a bit after heaps of use ... I have gone through my nappy stash and thrown out all the magic alls that are old and not as good as they used to be .. imo the nappies with the man made materials dont last as long as fitteds.... the fitteds are too big for gabriella right now , probably when she gains another kilo or so she eill fit them but right now she is in bambino mio and fitteds from pookey pockets and ones that my friend has made ...
she is still in 0000 but her feet are long so dont really fit the all in one suits , but ive been buying heaps in 000 as she will be that size before i know it and the summer is long out in ipswich so she should be able to wear it all by the way shes growing , i dont think she will be a heffer just yet ...

Im still using huggies newborn here and there , mostly at night and she still fits them perfectly but when i finish the pack i will get the aldi ones as back up .. we use a sposie on nix if its been raining or ive run out of nappies .. or when hes has a shuge drinkl of milk before bed .. other wise its a bbh with a booster and a fleece cover ... i do have wool ones but they are pretty bulky on an already bulky kid ...

poor gab , she is asleep next to me and has wind , she is pulling faces like shes about to cry then it looks like she is smiling and her eyes flicker open ..

we whent and brought heaps of play things for nix , like thouse plastic slides and cubby houses , and a picnic table .. but ever since we brought them its rained so i cant take him out side to play because everythign is wet ...

its overcast today and i have plonked nix infront of the telly ... i feel bad (well i feel judged ) if i admit to how often i put the tv on for him ...

seeing as hes up early each morning , i put the cartoons on on my room so he can be in bed with me while i snooze usually a few hours a day he watches tv while playing ... is that bad .. i am forever wondering if it is as damaging as the experts say it is ...

why do"child health experts" like to make mums feel guilty ...

Lea, re: tv, don't feel guilty hun, I know easier said than done. I have been doing the same sometimes. When DH is out, I get overwhelmed sometimes. Lily is so full on and will just whinge and whinge if she doesn't get what she wants, so I put on hi 5 or In the night garden and she'll be good for half an hour. Sometimes that's all she needs to become a different little girl. I think the pro's outweigh the cons (for us at the moment anyway). Cons being a very stressed mummy who screams and ends up in tears from guilt for screaming at DD. I wouldn't worry surely it's not going to damage them in the long term, or in any time for that matter. When we're sorted with our new bubs we will get into a new routine and there will be less tv. And besides it's not as if they're watching horror movies or anything. It's hi 5 for goodness sake. Yes I would love to be a fully functioning enthusiastic full of energy mum, but at the moment I'm not, so tv it is.

hi everyone
Im so glad to hear of other babies growing out of 0000's i was beginning to think Lucy was a sumo...everyone keeps saying how big shes getting but she still looks tiny to me, except when i squeezed her into her wondersuit last nite:D
I used to worry about my now 8 year old watching too much tv but it hasnt affected him at all socialy or mentaly.
bye for now:)
Tasha

Dont feel judged Lea....just lie when people ask how much TV your kids watch :) its none of the "experts" business what you do :)

Sadly tv has never worked for Grace and eve shows no sign of being interested in it... It sometimes buys me 10mins in the morning to have a shower but im normally still in there when i get grace saying "i turned the tv off mum. What you doing?" And normally she will just end up more upset if there is an ad or something on that has any emotion she doesnt understand on, or the news preview !nightmare

I say be happy that buys you some time and be proud that thats all you need to be happier and calmer mum :)

Trust me with three on my own most of the time id love a little tv time, oh i did forget "the fairies" buys me a little longer but only if not over used :)

Eve has found me.... better go

well i went and saw the LC, to try and find out whats worng with my left side , but i got advice that just didnt feel right .. she watched me feed g lying down and she said that the clicking sounds that she makes were her way of coping with my flow ...
and she also said that the pain and trouble i have with my nipple is just "something i have " and told me to take nurofen !!!!

AND that i should not co sleep , and that if g is fed and clean i should let her cry for 20mins minimum , so she can learn to fall asleep on her own , and that i should feed every 2 hrs ...she did see the taurma on my nipple but never really did anything about it , i mentioned the pain factor soo many times , in the end she made me feel like i was making a big deal out of nothing and definatley made it clear i was wasting her time ...

i felt like crap when i left .. i thought i was doing fine as a mum , i thought co sleeping was natural and so was attending to your baby when she cries ..

i admit that she needs to feed less often to give me a break , but why did the advice feel wrong to me .. i think that i will find another LC who has the same beliefs as me ...

but as for g's colic (which is pretty bad) im going to try cutting out things of my diet .. dairy should be the 1st to go , but its a big part of my diet ... (but i reckon its a big part of her colic too )

im just babbling on here , im a bit confused about the breastfeeding advice ...

anyway its dinnertime , and nixon has a fever .. its going to be an interesting night ..

Lea, hun if the advice the LC gave you feels wrong, don't listen to it. Simple as that. You are a great mum and you are doing the right thing for you and Gabriella. If co sleeping is what you need to do, do it, if you feel there is something wrong with how she is feeding then there is. And a newborn left screaming for 20mins???? WTF!!!!! That is the most rediculous thing I have heard. You need to find someone out there to support you not put you down.
I have cut out alot in my diet- chocolate, dairy, onions, garlic, spicy foods, anything that might make him windy (like vegie soup, baked beans...). And Liam seems to be alot more settled. I have tried reintroducing chocolate and dairy (they are killing me not to eat!!) and boy did I know it the night I did it! He screamed bloody murder the nights I tried it. So soy milk and no yummy foods for me :( .
BIG :hug: