Babies Born August 16th - 31st 2008

I havent been able to log on here for four days!! Not cos of my net connection, cos i cant get my bum into gear.

I had my endoscopy on monday, they took 4 biopsies and let me tell you i swear i can feel where they took them from. My stomach is so sore. It feels like i have open wounds in there, which i guess i do. I dont really know what the results are yet until i see my GP but the report says i have thickened mucous and an inflamed oesophegus/gullet which is consistent with reflux. I dont know what they will do about that. It should have corrected itself when i gave birth but it hasnt. I still get heartburn and reflux almost every day. So that whacked me out and i slept all day monday.

Tuesday DH went back to work and ever since i just dont seem to have enough hours in the day to get everything that i want to get done, done. It doesnt help that my stomach hurts so much though, which is making me more slow.

On top of all that Chardonnay has been terrible. Sunday night she kept us up all night, we barely slept.

I still have insomnia where im doing these 20 min power naps and i just feel so teary all the time. I dont think i have PND though, i think its just the insomnia which means sleep deprivation, and an unsettled baby that upsets me cos i cant fix her.

On a brighter note though, Chardonnay started smiling at me this morning. She has been smiling for awhile, but not actually directly at anyone. This morning she looked at me and smiled. Best feeling in the world. Makes it all worth it.

I cant beleive all your babies are going into 000 already. We are still fitting 0000 nicely here. She weighed 3.3kg last week.

kell- Serenitee had chronic ear infections, including several eardrum perforations, from the age of 4 mths. We were lucky to have one full week off a course of antibiotics before she got another infection. She had at least 2 courses of ab a month and in the end became immune to main ab she was always on and they had to change it. In the end she wasnt allowed off ab, she had a continual prescription until she got grommets. She got her grommets at 11mths old and has been fantastic ever since. She has had a few infections since having her grommets but the fluid just drains out now and we can usually just leave it to drain. So if you need someone to talk to about it, i have been through it and am more than happy to help out if i can.

I hope you are all well :)

Kristi :D

kristi14 hope your tummy feels better soon you poor thing and you get some more sleep ahh smiling I have a picture of Eireann smiling but it was in her sleep LOL

*charmalea* I WOULDNT WORRY ABOUT THE TV:hug: I remember doing exactly the same when I had my second son just to get some more sleep and he is fine, my lads get up in the morning and watch some tv im not to worried over it as I know that will stop with school and im not getting very much sleep im up from about 12 to 3 am with Eireann she likes to fuss in the middle of the night :rolleyes: so when Shane wakes up at 6am i put on the tv for him i need some sleep to cope with the boys and house or ild be a zoombie as long as its cartoons your not a bad mum
with nixon have you tried time out I find it great put him in there and then when he sits there go to him and tell him why he is there they catch on very quick with shane we say do you want to go to time out he say no and does what he is told (he is 2) might be worth a try if you dont already do it if you can ignore the screaming and when he is calm reward him i know that sound so much easier than done esp with a new baby and lak of sleep sore boobs im think of you though
with the LC what planet is she on you do what feel right i see another one for the pain in your left nipple and if you did want to cut out feeding from that one and just use the right it has and can be done my mam had breast cancer and had her breast removed she then had my little sister and fed her with one breast no problems at all :)

Im missing my husband. Those of you that your husband walked through the door at 5.30......give him a extra big cuddle hello...i wish i could...his home sunday for a day so that is something to look forward too.

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Im missing my husband. Those of you that your husband walked through the door at 5.30......give him a extra big cuddle hello...i wish i could...his home sunday for a day so that is something to look forward too.

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you poor thing (((((((BIG HUGS )))))))) ild be lost with out my DH I have some idea how you feel when my DS3 was a baby mine was away for a month its was so hard with out him painful i missed him so much :hug::hug: but your so right we should be thankful
have a great day sunday

have a friend that was having a c/s this morning and i havent heard anything.... im itching to know. She has two girls 3.3month and 18months... i know she wanted a boy! ill let you know

i have just worked out my daughter doesnt like to leave the house:( when we stay home all day she sleeps great at night only waking once for a feed but when we venture out even on the shortest outing, she refuses to sleep...its not that she cries or anything just lays there and fusses about. my mum says i should take her out more because it will make her impossible to take anywhere but i need sleep?!:confused:
so do i just deal with miss fussy pants or become a hermit for awhile?
my son was easy to take any where cause he didnt sleep anyways:lol:
hope everyone is having a fantastic day
oh i think lucy smiled today:dance:
tasha

tasha , do what you need to do till you feel confident enoguh to go out ... i went shopping when nix was 5 days old , literally on day 5 we left the hosp and went shopping ... and with gabriella i left hosp when she was 12hrs old and went home had a shower and went to the shops :lol: the lady at the newsagency was astonished when asked "when was she born " and my reply was .. "oh about 11:30 last night " hehe

but taking her out to "train her to cope wih outings" probably wont help and make her more unsettled ... all the artificial sunlight and noise of the shops can over stimulate and make them fussy ... do you wear lucy ?? a good sling for her will keep her a bit more settled ...

nix was the same , never slept while we were out but was never fusst .... and now Gab is the same as lucy , gets unsettled when we go out for too long and wants boob alot ..

well speaking of my boobs .. the evil mastitis fariy has visited BOTH boobs .. both are soo tender and sore , i am feeling really fluyey and am reall cold and tired ... and nix is sick as well so tending to him wanting "up" and gab want ing boob , i just feel like a zombie .. luckily DH just got home ( and i will give him a cuddle , when i get up eventually ;) ) and is going to take me to the chemist , because if anything good came from the visit with the estranged LC the other day it was a script for AB if i got mastitis ...


booked nix in to day care for one day a weel today the lady is a friend of one of my good friends and the centre is very new and hardly any kids so i know and felt confident he will get cared for ....

Gabriella smiled today .. it s was beautiful ..

milly did you hear the news about your frined ??

Sounds like everyone is having little bumps in the road.
We hit ours also.
Early this week we had our clinic visit for 2nd weigh in and Chloe had only put on 50g. The clinic nurse was a little concerned and asked about my milk supply which I knew was lacking and I'd already started back on motillium. She advised me to start giving her 2 x 60ml FF per day for the next week to get her weight up again and that i had to come back in a week for another weigh in to see if she gains weight. She is still in 0000 and would be in 00000 if she didn't have the length she has. The 0000 are still large around her upper body.

So I've been taking the motillium as advised and also got some Aktavite as seen on this site. My milk has increased and I can now express 60-80ml (previously would get 40ml and only 20ml when my supply died) but for some reason Chloe is fussing on the BB still so I'm thinking she has figured the bottle is easier and why worry about BB anymore. As she isn't feeding properly I'm giving her BB first, then once she starts fussing or they feel empty I give her EBM, or for 2 feeds per day 60ml FF.

Any suggestions on how I can keep her interested in BB?? Obviously I need to follow the clinic nurse with the FF's to make sure she gains weight this week but don't want this to turn her off the BB if I can avoid it. I've went and bought the Tommee Tippee Breastfeeding bottles that are supposed to mimic the nipple to make moving between BB and bottle easy but I've also got some Avent bottles with a newborn (#1) teat. Any other suggestions??? (I've posted in the BF problems section)

Either way since the additional feeds she is much more settled and has started back sleeping through the night. For about 5 days she was waking anywhere from 3-5am and I'd have to feed her. For 1.5 days I was feeding her every few hours and boy can I admit that it was very tiring and I was completely over the whole thing and being tugged on and was just hoping for someone to say "put her on the bottle, BF is not working for you"..

Had to take C to the hospital last night with suspected bronchiolitis after i took her to the GP and they said take her to the hospital to be proparly assessed. I couldnt wait to get her out of there, so many kids with viruses around and all i was thinking was my baby hasnt been immunised yet. So i was so happy when they said she wasnt at a stage where they needed to treat her yet so i could take her home but have to keep a close eye on her cos if she gets worse it will happen very quickly so i have to take her back straight away if she does. Shes been stable today, hasnt gotten much better but hasnt gotten worse, which is the main thing. Dr said last night that she has reflux, which i suspected, i didnt think it was colic.

My GP put me back on my reflux meds too thank goodness, so the pain is starting to ease, which is excellent.

So many of our little ones starting to smile now, its gorgeous :) It doesnt matter how crappy things might seem, they smile at you and it just melts your heart :)

I hope you are all well and those that arent the best, i hope you feel better soon :hug:

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I was feeding her every few hours and boy can I admit that it was very tiring and I was completely over the whole thing and being tugged on and was just hoping for someone to say "put her on the bottle, BF is not working for you"..

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i can totally sympathise with you.... i wish some one could have said it to me yesterday, i was ready to give up .. and is motiillum the same as domperedone??? i cant take maxalon as it give me panic attacks ...

you can supplement feed through a tube thats taped to your boob and the milk is stored in a botte that goes around your neck , the tubing is so small that bub can latch on and bf as normal but is getting the extra supply ... google medela products , they have them ...

Gabriella is still very fussy , instead on 30min feeds shes stretched it out to 45-hourly feeds ... but in the arvos its when ever she feels like it .. generally after a 20min cat nap ..

yesterday after i came back from a walk and had the full blown mastitis symptoms , i needed to rest but everytime i put her in her swing , she would cry and fuss ... i told my mum i had mastitis and she said " put her on the bottle" ( she is very pushy about bottle feeding and i suspect its because both me and my sister BF our babies, and she didnt BF us , so there my be some feelings of guilt and wants us to put babes on the bottle to make HER feel better ... kwim )

Anyway , i just kept feeding from both sides to drain the bbs but i havent put a pump near them as im too chicken ....

i am on AB's for mastitis and panadiene and today i feel heaps better , i hope i dont over work myself as i am busy planning the party , ordering cakes etc ... and i also have to do a bit of work ...

how many times does those babes with reflux poop ... the doc has suspected reflux in G and is try infant gaviscon .. so far its calmed her chronic pain but leaves her extra fussy ... she poops alot , like up to 3 times per hour .. (not 3 times each hour , but ykwim..) and its dark green , not yellow like it used to be ...

anyway gotta run , have to work at 10.. and i havent even been for a shower yet ....

ps ...Kristi , im so sorry to hear about your trip to hossy ... i hate taking nixon to the GH as its full of feral ppl who cough and splutter everywhere ... i take nix to the childerns hosp if its not a life threatening emergency , once the ambos rused nix to hospital , his fever was 41.5 and was vomiting and hadnt peed since 5 am that morning ... the ambos wanted him to be seen asap ... ( it was 11pm at night) BUT the triage decided that we could wait till 5AM to be seen .....6 hrs with a really sick bub and no one gave a **** ... luckily he was ok in the end .. .but man i hat the ER at my GH

i hope Chardonnay recovers soon ..

Hi girls,

Lea, sorry to hear you have mastitis hun. That sucks. I hope it clears up quickly. And I hope Nixon wasn't too sick last night. Yay @ getting childcare for nixon. I wish we could afford it for Lily. She'd absolutely love playing with other kids. And yay that Gabriella smiled! Liam has too, it's the best when they smile at you huh?

Belinda, re you're milk supply, the best thing you can do for it is to feed feed feed. If you really want to exclusively bf, then stopping the formula would be a good idea too, slowly of course, maybe 10mls a day or so, and just lay in bed with Chloe and feed her all day for a few days. Your supply will get better that way. Liam and I had a night like that last night. He was literally on the boob from 7pm- midnight. Then again from 5am til about 7am. My nipples are sooo sore, but my supply is great, my bb's are huge, LOL!! But he obviously must be going through a growth spurt. I had alot of trouble with feeding DD so I know how frustrating it is. We never did manage to acheive fully bfing for her, I was on motilium and having activite, oats, you name it if someone said it increased milk supply I took it!! If you really want to fully bf, it will be tough for a few weeks, but you can do it!!! Good luck hun, I hope you can sort it out.

Kristi, I hope Chardonnay is on the mend poor little monkey, how scary for you. That's excellent that the dr has diagnosed reflux for her, at least you know now and can try to fix it. And yay you got your meds again, glad to hear the pain is easing.

As for us, we had a very unsettled and sleepless night. Liam fed all night, hardly sleeping much at all. He screamed for a few hours too I have no idea why. Then he did a monster poo this morning at 6.30am, so I had to bath him cause there was poo everywhere. Luckily I had him wrapped or I would have had it all over the bed too! As it is I'm changing the bed every 2 or 3 days from him vomiting in it, or my bb's leaking!
We are having a quiet weekend, just a birthday party tomorrow and dinner at mums tonight. That's it, we might go to the park or something later, though it's meant to be fairly hot here today...anyeay, that's it. I'm going to try to catch up on the washing, it's never ending!
Have a great weekend everyone.

Belinda- I am bottle feeding Chardonnay and breastfeeding her when i have time (as horrible as that sounds, but with 6 kids sometimes i dont have the time to sit down and BF), i feed her at least once a day, i try to aim for 3 times a day. She doesnt get a full feed, i have to top her up, but at least shes getting something, which to me is a success. I can express about 60mls. I cant take the motilium cos i am allergic to maxalon and i cant take the fenugreek or similar yet until they sort out my reflux issues. Anyway, the point of what im getting to is it sounds like you are doing everything you possibly can to keep her interested. I feed Chardonnay with the tommee tippee bottles when shes not on the boob and i offer her the boob before i give her a formula top up. I would try and stick to the tommee tippee bottles over the Avent ones though, the TT teats are more like the breast. How much does Chloe weigh? My last two babies have had issues with not putting on weight so i know how stressful it is, if you need to talk im here.

Lea- Your mastitis sounds painful, i hope it clears up really really soon for you. Chardonnay poops anywhere from 1 to 3 times a day, but she's mainly formula fed. Thanks for your well wishes for C, i did take her to the childrens hospital, thats where the GP sent us. I thought about taking her to our GH but the letter the dr wrote was addressed to the childrens hospital so i thought i had better take her there, and it was full of kids with all these viruses, i started to get highly strung up about all these germs and got to the point i didnt know where to sit, i was so releived when they said go home. She hasnt improved much but she hasnt gotten any worse, so as long as she doesnt get worse thats a good sign. I cant beleive you have started doing some work again, i take my hat off to you.

Kell- I keep getting confused when i see your new username and not realising its you. You talk to me like you know me and then i go Ohhhhhh its Kell :lol: of course she knows me. Chardonnay hasnt gotten better yet but shes not getting any worse so thats good. Sorry to hear you had a sleepless night, C kept us up most of the night crying too. I hope you can get some sleep soon. Oh yes, i love my meds, thank goodness they gave them back to me, after weeks of pain im finally getting some releif. Would be nice if they could completely fix the problem though. I thought when i gave birth it would go away but its not.

Do any of you have insomnia?

Have a good w/e all :D

hi kristi, yes i get nights of insomnia , is usually when i have a million things to do and havent done them , so i stress about when they should get done and then think of more things to put on the to do list ... it never ends . yesterday afternoon i had a cup of tea and i kept me awake for hours . i knew i was sensative to cafffiene and usually have a cup of tea in the morning then decaff coffe if im out , but i felt like a cuppa , but i will never do that again unless its decaff ...

and yes , im back at "work" i am a contractor/demonstrater for a major modern cloth nappy company and i do demos at homes and markets and do baby showers for those who want to get a heap of nappies , and i said i wanted the month of september off and not do anything, but i was getting so many emails from women who wanted demos an to get a whole heap of nappies , so i couldnt say no , otherwise id be overwhelemed in Oct..

plus its my own business with an abn number so i like to keep motivated and do a little something for me .. it pays pretty well (but thats not the point to me .. ) and i really love doing it, i met a great couple yesterday that i will be keeping in contact with as we all (dh included ) got along so well .. DH comes with me sometimes coz he loves the nappies too .... but the commission is all mine :lol:

Kellie , love your ticker ... do you get FTB ?? if you do , you have probably heard about the CCB ..( child care benefit) we get 54% and up to 50 hours a week on the ccb .. so what ever the day care charges we only pay 54% of it or get 54% off ( cant remember) but the centre nix is going to is $55 a day and we only have to pay $28 a day .. and that includes food so for $28 he gets looked after and fed and i get a break ... well worth it ... and at tax time you get 30% of whatever you have paid to the centre .... so it does work out ok ... and the 54% is based on a income of $70 000 so if the earnings are less the ccb is more .. kwim

gabriellas doing well atm , nothing really going on as such .....
we have been soo lazy and there is no food in the house ..not even bread , or chocolate .. nothing and poor nix is hungry .. dh had to cook an egg for him .. at least its healthy . going shopping today to replenish the stocks ...

Lea: we eat eggs often LOL, food shopping with three kids........ Do have to go today so shouldnt think about it too much not or i wont end up going LOL.. What nappies do you sell?? My bumgenious are only 14months old and the elastic has gone in most of them...am going to need new ones.... can you buy samples?

Kell: i got confused about your new name too LOL...none of us have had enough sleeps for you to go and do something that confusing LOL

Kristi: glad to hear C is ok and not getting worse. Glad you are still feeding her, it was something you really wanted to do before she was born. And this way hopefully the 3 feeds you do are stress free/special time rather than a stressful time juggling the other 5 kids!

Snowchickie: I think it was Lea who said if you want to wean off formula then do it slowly... its not a one way road to weaning off breast. You can do it, you just need to find the "right" support. Stick with it :)

Us: Thomas weighs 5.1kg or 11pounds! he is getting so big and he started to smile at me today, very cute. I cant believe he is 5weeks old :) Thomas still poo's by every nappy change. Its the right colour but its a little funny, its watery and clumpy. My mum said it was over feeding, which id believe as the poor man gets huge feeds off me. A midwife friend is coming to stay tomorrow for two nights so i was just going to get her to have a look, he is putting on weight and its been like that since he was born so i am not worried. I have two flights to sydney planned in the next three weeks. Grace and eve are flowergirls and i am brides maid. Still dont know if matt will be able to come to the wedding....wonder if i will be the 1st bridesmaid to hold a baby rather than flowers...will have to think of a plan B soon. better go, amelia

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Belinda, re you're milk supply, the best thing you can do for it is to feed feed feed. If you really want to exclusively bf, then stopping the formula would be a good idea too, slowly of course, maybe 10mls a day or so, and just lay in bed with Chloe and feed her all day for a few days. Your supply will get better that way. Liam and I had a night like that last night. He was literally on the boob from 7pm- midnight. Then again from 5am til about 7am. My nipples are sooo sore, but my supply is great, my bb's are huge, LOL!! But he obviously must be going through a growth spurt. I had alot of trouble with feeding DD so I know how frustrating it is. We never did manage to acheive fully bfing for her, I was on motilium and having activite, oats, you name it if someone said it increased milk supply I took it!! If you really want to fully bf, it will be tough for a few weeks, but you can do it!!! Good luck hun, I hope you can sort it out.

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Lilias - Unfortunately the problem is more than just supply.. Chloe is not interested in sucking anymore than she really has to which means once she is past the free flowing milk that she doesn't have to work for she is just pulling off and screaming her lungs out. I've spoken to an ABA consultant this morning who was very sympathetic and unfortunately if I cannot get Chloe back interested in BF'ing then no matter what supply I try to achieve she won't drink. Essentially she has discovered that the bottle is easier to drink so she is not interested in having to suck for longer than about 2 minutes or she screams blo00dy murder. She pulls off goes on pulls off goes on and the pattern continues. I have milk. Those first few minutes it leaks out the sides of her mouth. I can express up to 80ml but she just doesn't want to suck it out.
I asked the ABA consultant about just feeding constantly but she said that all it will achieve is upsetting the both of us and that if Chloe was happy to suck for a normal length of a BF then problem would just be supply, but it's not as I have supply just no child that wants to suck anymore. Give her a bottle and she is milk drunk quicker than you can blink an eye and sucks it down quicker than she can swallow it.

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Belinda- I am bottle feeding Chardonnay and breastfeeding her when i have time (as horrible as that sounds, but with 6 kids sometimes i dont have the time to sit down and BF), i feed her at least once a day, i try to aim for 3 times a day. She doesnt get a full feed, i have to top her up, but at least shes getting something, which to me is a success. I can express about 60mls. I cant take the motilium cos i am allergic to maxalon and i cant take the fenugreek or similar yet until they sort out my reflux issues. Anyway, the point of what im getting to is it sounds like you are doing everything you possibly can to keep her interested. I feed Chardonnay with the tommee tippee bottles when shes not on the boob and i offer her the boob before i give her a formula top up. I would try and stick to the tommee tippee bottles over the Avent ones though, the TT teats are more like the breast. How much does Chloe weigh? My last two babies have had issues with not putting on weight so i know how stressful it is, if you need to talk im here.

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kristie14 Chloe weighs 3.4kg and she is 6 weeks old tomorrow.

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Snowchickie: I think it was Lea who said if you want to wean off formula then do it slowly... its not a one way road to weaning off breast. You can do it, you just need to find the "right" support. Stick with it :)

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Milly - Thanks for the encouragement. I just wish it was simple and the problem wasn't her willingness to attach and stay attached.. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Hehehe, sorry for confusing everyone with the name change!! But I wanted to have a signature with both my bubs names in it. I had been thinking of changing my name for a while but just didn't know what to, and this one is a mixture of my babies names and initial our surname.

Kristi, I can understand you having a bad night with Chardonnay being so sick. I'm glad she's not getting worse and I hope today has seen her improve.

Lea, yep, I would be eligable for CCB, not sure how much though. I was trying to work it all out the other day, but I just got a headache! I would like one day care, but not sure if it will work out. Was trying to work out how many days I will HAVE to go back to work to still be able to live. I think 3 will be the best option, but not sure, maybe I should all centre link and ask them to work it out.

Milly, I think Liam's about 5kg's or more too. He's getting soo big, everyone keeps on telling me how big he is. I can't believe how much they're growing either. It's going so quickly already!

Belinda, I hope Chloe will get back into the sucking so you can bf her. Have you tried not giving her the bottle? Or someone suggested before a supply line where you put the little tube on your boob and she sucks like normal, but is still getting formula and bm? It's certainly not the end of the journey if you still have lots of milk. She just needs to get back into thinking that her food only comes from you, not a bottle. It probably would be a bit stressful if she won't suck for long, but maybe you could put her on more often? Just until she realises that the milk is coming from you now, no more bottles? This breast feeding thing can be so stressful huh? You want the best and its so hard to figure out what that is!

As for us, we had a loverly day at the party. It was at a big regional park, with heaps of play equipmant and stuff. Lily had a ball and Liam was good for me. Though it was 34 degrees! And blowing a gale! Lil fell asleep in the car and is still sleeping!! And Liam is snoozing too, yay!!! Ok gonna go and enjoy the silence of having both babies asleep!

Hi ladies. I'll do my best with personals...

Kellie Glad you had a good day at the party. It was a beautiful day wasn't it. Awesome that both children are sleeping for you atm :)

Belinda Tobias isn't interested in sucking/attatching to my breast at all anymore. I've tried to keep the milk in my left breast so I can continue to try but after getting a bad infection in my right nipple (which I am now taking anti-biotics for) I dont know if it will work out. I feel for you. I must say though that DD was formula fed from day one due to me not being able to get any milk out of my breasts in the first days after having her & she is perfectly happy & healthy, of course you agree that is the main thing :) I know things will all work out for you soon.

Milly 2 flights to Sydney, wow you're going to be busy!! I would have loved to have met up but sounds like you're going to be too busy! I hope your DH can join you.

Lea We have hardly any food in the house atm either, although mainly because we dont have the money to do the shopping. It's driving me insane. Don't worry the kids aren't going without, I always make sure they have what they need. We'll catch up soon & hopefully have the cupboards & fridge full again :)

Kristi I hope Chardonnay is better soon, I can imagine what you felt like being at the hospital, I'd be the same. It's great you still manage to get all those BF's in while having your hands full with the other children aswell!

Tasha How are you going getting Lucy out of the house & sleeping? I hope all is going well for you, it must be so frustrating!!

niamh How are you?

Mel How have you been? Haven't seen you on here for a while. I bet Ali is growing very quickly!

Me Tobias still hasn't smiled. he may have done one today but I'm not convinced so not counting it as "first smile". It did look different to his wind smiles though but maybe I wanted it to look different so I convinced myself it looked different IYKWIM. He;s filling out really well & most nights he's sleeping about 10 hours straight for his first sleep, but thats from about 6 or 7pm so I still have to get up at about 4 or 5, thats on a really good night but other nights its about 7 hours for first sleep then every 3 hours after that. So I really cant complain.
I'm feeling like I'm putting on weight, I weighed myself about 2 days ago & I still weighed the same as just after I had Tobias which is about 9 kilos heavier than where I want to be but its also 5 kilos lighter than i was pre-pregnancy so not too bad atm.
Tobias has his circumcision tomorrow at 11:30am. I'm really nervous, I dont want him to scream :( I just cant wait for it to be over with & healed up. A quick $500......
Re-arranged DD's toys today, got them all out of the lounge room & put them in her bedroom. I have alot I'm getting rid of, I put them on free-cycle but no-one responded so I'll take them to vinnies/salvos now. I will also be selling all my maternity clothes on Ebay as I've decided no more babies! Pregnancy was just too harsh on my body & I'm still sleeping elevated as my pelvis still isn't back to normal! Just trying to clear alot of the "clutter" out of the house... I HATE it!

I hope you're all well & once again sorry it's taken so long for me to catch up....

Hello All

Danielle_M Im getting there Eireann is very windy the last few days and getting sick nearly after every feed seems to hit her late at night when we all should be asleep she lathes on is just going to sleep and then is wide awake crying I got up with her last night and kept winding her rocked he in the pram and then gave her gripe water seemed to work and she settled so she slept then from 1am till about half 5 had a feed and went back to sleep

Im thinking its something in my diet or amy be lack of supply in the evening wouldnt explain the getting sick though

I got infacol and ive stopped using it not sure but think it solved the wind but made he very sicky we were out yesterday and she got sick every were all over me and her we brought our boys out for a walk so I solidered on with a wet t shirt and puke running down my boobs :lol:

Milly Eireann nappies are the same its only the last day or so ive notied less dirty nappies but dont worry its all good as long as the poo is a yellowy mustard colour baby is getting all the good hind milk and think yiou can be really sure of that with BUBs weight :dance: if you notice a green frothy nappy it can mean baby getting to much foremilk I only forund out that recently from a LC

Im terrible with personals so sorry I promise ill get better my mind a whirl we are moving house this week and so much todo

Oops just re read my post so many typing mistakes sorry hope you can understand me

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Belinda, I hope Chloe will get back into the sucking so you can bf her. Have you tried not giving her the bottle? Or someone suggested before a supply line where you put the little tube on your boob and she sucks like normal, but is still getting formula and bm? It's certainly not the end of the journey if you still have lots of milk. She just needs to get back into thinking that her food only comes from you, not a bottle. It probably would be a bit stressful if she won't suck for long, but maybe you could put her on more often? Just until she realises that the milk is coming from you now, no more bottles? This breast feeding thing can be so stressful huh? You want the best and its so hard to figure out what that is!

As for us, we had a loverly day at the party. It was at a big regional park, with heaps of play equipmant and stuff. Lily had a ball and Liam was good for me. Though it was 34 degrees! And blowing a gale! Lil fell asleep in the car and is still sleeping!! And Liam is snoozing too, yay!!! Ok gonna go and enjoy the silence of having both babies asleep!

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lilias - At the moment I don't really want to try not giving her a comp because she didn't gain much weight at her last weigh in and i don't want to risk doing that again. I have another weight check at the clinic tomorrow so will see how she goes. Her birth weight was 3.2kg and she was only 3.4kg at 5 weeks so that is not a huge weight gain in the scheme of things. By not comping her I think I'd be doing more damage than good and I don't want her to start associating me with a bad experience in that she gets so worked up when she wants to feed but cannot for some reason. Issue really isn't supply now but getting her to attach for longer than 2-3 minutes. I have had some immediate success using nipple shields, she is happy to feed using those. I didn't comp her for 3 of her 4 feeds today. I'm not sure why the shields are making a difference but they are.

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Belinda Tobias isn't interested in sucking/attatching to my breast at all anymore. I've tried to keep the milk in my left breast so I can continue to try but after getting a bad infection in my right nipple (which I am now taking anti-biotics for) I dont know if it will work out. I feel for you. I must say though that DD was formula fed from day one due to me not being able to get any milk out of my breasts in the first days after having her & she is perfectly happy & healthy, of course you agree that is the main thing :) I know things will all work out for you soon.

Me Tobias still hasn't smiled. he may have done one today but I'm not convinced so not counting it as "first smile". It did look different to his wind smiles though but maybe I wanted it to look different so I convinced myself it looked different IYKWIM. He;s filling out really well & most nights he's sleeping about 10 hours straight for his first sleep, but thats from about 6 or 7pm so I still have to get up at about 4 or 5, thats on a really good night but other nights its about 7 hours for first sleep then every 3 hours after that. So I really cant complain.
I'm feeling like I'm putting on weight, I weighed myself about 2 days ago & I still weighed the same as just after I had Tobias which is about 9 kilos heavier than where I want to be but its also 5 kilos lighter than i was pre-pregnancy so not too bad atm.
Tobias has his circumcision tomorrow at 11:30am. I'm really nervous, I dont want him to scream :( I just cant wait for it to be over with & healed up. A quick $500......
Re-arranged DD's toys today, got them all out of the lounge room & put them in her bedroom. I have alot I'm getting rid of, I put them on free-cycle but no-one responded so I'll take them to vinnies/salvos now. I will also be selling all my maternity clothes on Ebay as I've decided no more babies! Pregnancy was just too harsh on my body & I'm still sleeping elevated as my pelvis still isn't back to normal! Just trying to clear alot of the "clutter" out of the house... I HATE it!

I hope you're all well & once again sorry it's taken so long for me to catch up....

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Danielle_M - Sounds like you've not had a great run in the BF department either. BF is hard and such a complex thing in reality. I've been happy to get this far with it but obviously if I can keep it up would like to but ultimately if not then so be it and I've at least given her 5 good weeks of it.
I'm sure you will see some smiles soon. Chloe is now smiling and i can get her laughing but without the noise yet. It happened just out of the blue last week when i sat and played with her and some toys. I was tickling her bottom lip with the toy and out it came and happily I had the video running at the same time so I captured it. :)

US - Today we had some inkyfeet items done (foot prints on ceramic tiles and coffee mugs) and then picked up her hospital pics on CD. Happily that is the last of the "newborn" stuff I want to get done while she is still this age. So she has now had; hospital photos at 5 days old; twinkle toes; inkyfeet and photos at studio at 5 weeks old..
Had some minor wins today with BF'ing. Chloe seems happy to feed with nipple shields but not so happy without them. not sure if she just doesn't like my nipple anymore, it tastes weird or her mouth is sore but we have our weight check tomorrow so will have the clinic nurse check her over and also will find out if efforts this week have helped with her weight. I had an apt with my LC from hosi on Friday so hopefully she will be able to help me sort out the issue of her attachment. Just have to struggle through till then.
I have my 6 week checkup on Wednesday which should be interesting and must say not looking forward to it as it also means i have to go for another 2hr GTT (I had GD).. :pray::pray: that is all comes back fine.... :pray::pray:
Anyway I best go have a shower before the little one wakes for a feed..

Night all and take care.

Hi Everyone ....

Wow so much has happened and I have been slack in posting I honestly have no idea where time has gone ...

Sorry to hear some not so pleasant days and BF issues ... hope that things get better for you all and I promise to catch up on personals .. I have no chance tonight need some sleep and little miss ready for night time bedtime ...

We are going well and Ali has her 2 month injections next week ... the doc asked me to come in on the 9th and get them done which would be fine except thats my 30th - aaargh welcome to motherhood and selflessness ! She is growing so much and now weighs 4.8kg and our 6 week checks were all fine ...

I did find out that my haemorraging was the placenta tearing away from the wall and next pg I am more than likely to have the pre eclampsia again and all associated problems ... so they will keep a close eye on me next time from the beginning esp making sure they catch it early should the onset be earlier ....

Other than that I am doing work from home for my old company and have mothers group every week too which I am enjoying ... just the days all blend into one - thank goodness for a long weekend this weekend !

Anyways off to finish up the kitchen and get little miss to bed ....

Take care all

xo

hello everyone
we had a check up with the child health nurse today and lucy is now 4.7kgs, she has reflux and is on a thickened formula and that makes her badly constipated...its terrible watching her have a poo, we have tried prune juice but that gives her tummy ache, coloxl works but the nurse said she shouldnt be on it all the time.
i try to only go out in the arvo now because that is lucys most awake time and it doesnt seem to upset her so much:)
hope everyone had a great week end
my DH is a mad hawks fan so he had a great time on saturday!
bye for now
Tasha

tasha, you can out food thickener in normal formula, but it may bung her up too, mix up brown sugar with boiled water, let it cool then give her a teaspoon or 2.. it will work !!

wow we are a quite bunch

lucylu your poor little girl Ive heard of the sugar and water I used it on my fist DS we put a little bit of fresh orange jusce in it and it worked a treat :D

*charmalea* how are you doing


us well Eireann has finally worked out night time is for sleeping have had a great night the last two feel like im getting more sleep I have cut down on dairy in my diet and no choclate or diet coke not that I was eating much but thought it was better safe than sorry only having one cup of tea as well and it does seem to have helped with pucking she only does a little bit now all normal and i know that will go soon as well as she gets older
ive notied my nipple is a little ithy at times thats not trush is it if it is what do i get for it i havent notied any little spots in Eireann mouth but was just wondering

oh and this is a really dumb question but the 6 week check up how does that go i had GD so when i make an appointment should i book the gtt and how much do the dotors normally charge for the check up

hope every one is busy and happy :dance:

thanks for the advice lea ill give it a shot
lucy had her biggest sleep ever last nite 6 and a half hours...so today i feel slightly human:dance: i even brushed my hair!!
tasha

Hi Girls,

Well this is my second day on my own and to be honest I'm struggling a bit. Lily is sick again for the millionth time in 6weeks or so, so is a clingon and just whinging all day, and Liam is being a bit difficult today. I have all of about 6hrs sleep in the past two days and I'm soo buggered. When one's asleep the other is awake, so I'm not getting anything done. Ugh this sucks.....and I don't want to go out because Lil's sick. I was supposed to have a friend over yesterday and go to playgroup today, but I can't cause of her. I've been cooped up in this place for too long!

Anyway enough whining, sotta go Lil's whinging at the fridge for no good reason.

Kellie I'm sorry lil's sick again. Sounds like you're having a real tough time right now. I think you need to ask someone for some help... can you ask your mum to either come over & watch the kids for a few hours while you have a sleep & if you want to, catch up on some housework. Or could you take the kids there & go home for a rest on your own? I'd offer to come over tomorrow & give you a break but I'm still recovering from this flu & would hate to spread it!
Take care hun, big hugs
xxx

not again kel ??? poor lily and poor you .. 6hrs sleep is not enough , im worried about you .. if i was near you i'd come help give you a rest ... i hope you get some help soon , ask some one ..
i always hated asking for help .. but now i dont bat an eyelid at it .. my mum is the 1st person i ask .. usally she is the last buecause i hate her seeing me not coping .. but i still pretend im fine :lol:
and sorry danielle .. that last thing kel wants to do if she gets a break is catch up on house work .. but i kwym ..

now that dh is back at work i am doing worse than i thought i would .. too many expectations on my self .. i thought that i could hang out with nix while gab sleeps and then get the cleaning done inbetween .. but little did i know that gab never sleeps and is cranky , nix has hit the terrible 2's and has hit them bad ... his tanturms are horrific and the cleaning gets forgotten about .. and dinner is thrown togeter 2 secs before i have to leave to pick up dh ...

i tried to clean and tidy the other day .. i job too me over 5 hrs to finally finish .. and all it was , was clearing the bench ..

so i hired a cleaner , once a fornight for 3 hrs ... she comes on a monday and will do it all for me !!! yay ...

well my mum told me this sad story about a mum in a 4wd driving one way and 2 ppl in a van coming the other way .. the 4wd had a screaming baby in the back and the mum turned to check on the bub and veered to the other side of the road straight into the van coming the other way ..

as yet there are no fatalaties BUT the 4wd mum is in a stable condition and the lady driving the van is in a serious condition .. with a leg amputaion looming over her ... the baby is ok as far as i know .. the the 2 ladies are not so good , the passenger in the van ran over to the mum of the 4wd and abused her , she was slumped over the s.wheel and not concious and he was livid but still went off at her .. poor fella was in shock too ..

all this happend a street away from my mums house , who lives in rural area, both cars were write offs and the women got airlifted to hosp...

now , the lady in the 4wd was my mums boss's neighbour and the couple driving the van are my mums neighbours ... the van was a mercedes benz and the 4wd i thinkg was a pajero .. so it just goes to show no car no matter what the brand is not as strudy as we think ... ]

so i went out yesterday and bought 2 maxi riders AHR and 1 infant capsule .. so when gab hits 9 kgs she can go in the maxi rider .. the infant capsule fits to 12kgs so she can be in it for a bit longer if i feel she needs to be ..

wow nix is still in bed .. woo hoo a break for me .. he had his 1st day at daycre yesterday and loved , the lady said he fit right in and even had a sleep .. omg he wont have one at home ..not fair , but i snuck in a waatched him play , he was so happy running around outside ... he looked so cute ..

meanwhile gab is so unsettled still .. .i will ask about it at my 6 week check up .. and nimah i dont think you have to pay , my docs bulk bill . but if yours dont i think it would be a standard cons . fee .. they may even bb for kids under 16 so its best to ask :)
im doning fine by the way , i cant belive our "twins" are nearly 6 weeks ... eek

hugs to every one ....and milly wheres that pm you promised .... havent senn you on here for a bit , hope all is well ...

x hugs to all

oh and tasha , any movement in thestation for lucy ?? Dh and i were on a weekend away and nix got constipated , so while we were waitinng in line at the chemist we were talking about laxatives .. and a family with young kids over heard us and suggested the brown sugar and water, we bought the coloaxl any way JIC .. but when we got back to the marriot , we asked room serive for brown sugar .. ( a bizzare request , but im sure theyve had worse )

and voila .. a short while later , we got our wish .. :lol:

eta .. Nimah , the spots sound like thrush .. get some diflucan ( its one tablet ) over the counter and if it is thrus sould clear it up , but you can ask a pharmasist what it is , if its thrush its easily identifiable and you wont have to see a doc .. even a health nurse of LC could help you .. also ask for a treatment to put on your nipples so that E gets treated too ...

I spoke to soon Eireann was terrible last night I went to bed early thinking ild get more sleep nope she fed non stop till 12 and was crying in between i eventually got her to sleep after walking her round the house and gribe water dont know what time i got her to sleep but im wrecked shane woke at 7 very cross so looks like all our toddlers are acting up

*charmalea* im ringing to make an appointment today for next week ive to get a smear not looking forward to that at all :o lol just a thought do you have to have DTD before your six week check up. thats awful about the accident hope that lady avoids getting her arm removed.

lilias:comfort: your having such a hard time I hope some one can help you give you a break I hope Lily gets better quick for you and your feeling better thinking of you

Hi Kel: hope things get better for you soon, i agree with the girls, get some help if you can, but if you are like me sometimes having someone "help" makes me feel worse.... Do what feels right but dont ever thing anyone is judging you, those that do arent worth it!

Everyone else that is suffering with a babe with feeding, digesting problems....sorry other than eve being intolerant to grapes i have never delt with anything like that.... sorry no help here.

Sorry Lea, have you not gathered that i am no good at pm's....will write back as soon as i finish this...


Well for us, life is about to become insane...in a good way. The kids and i are off to sydney tomorrow for the bridal shower sunday.. three kids, 1 suitcase, 1 bridesmaids dress, two flower girls dresses, two car rides, 1 plane ride and just me LOL, then back sunday night so grace can go to dancing and kindy then back to sydney the following saturday. That saturday is ballet, birthday party, then plane ride, then drive to blue mountains LOL.... have a week there then the wedding then home....how i wish i had a real husband or should i say a husband with a normal job so i could have some help... Am looking forward the girls and i being in the bridal party together, hope thomas is having a little feeding day LOL. Eve slept through last two nights, finally cut her two year old molers, then thomas only woke once. Visitors left today so have found my way through 4 loads of washing, am very anal about having a clean house. Makes me feel like i am doing ok if i can go to bed and wake in the morning to a clean house.

Thomas is 6 weeks today...what a beautiful boy...and danielle am thinking that the smile the other day was a false alarm as it hasnt happened again LOL.

Huge smiles to all and big hugs for those who need one :)

Will let you know how the trip goes when i get back monday :):dance:

Hi girls,

Lea, thanks for the concern hun. I think I'm ok, nothing serious. Other than sleep deprivation and a sick cling on toddler....there's not much I can do about it at the moment. But like you I think I have too high expectations of myself. Dh works 4 days on 4 off, 2 days 2 nights, so I do get a break, but when both babies are screaming at night, we're both up to them anyway, so we're both sleep deprived. I got a pretty good sleep last night, about 6hrs, though I was in bed by 9pm. Lily didn't wake up at all (yayyyy!!!) and Liam only woke for feeds, except at about midnight we were up for an hour with his grumbles, and Lily was awake at 5.10am (eeek) bring on daylight savings.
And I got some help yesterday evening, my mum came over just in the nick of time as I was bathing Liam after a monster poo and Lily was screaming and going nuts at me cause I couldn't pick her up. She was starting to heave and was about to throw up, which is what she does when she gets really upset. Then mum walked in and I almost cried!! She helped bath the kids, washed up and swept the floor for me.
Yay that you got a cleaner, that must be a weight lifted for you!!

Ok gotta go, Liams stirring (gotta get him before he wakes Lil...), hi to everyone else, sorry for the cut short post!

i just pressed some random button on my laptop and now the writing is so huge i can hardly read what everyones said ..

Milly: your forgiven .. but i will hassle you after monday :lol: and best of luck on the trip .. what does you DH do again ?? pmsl @ a grape intolerence ... none of us are sensitve to anything , so im surprised gab has all this going on with her ..

Kellie: your mums a star .. ikwym about the screaming and the almost vomiting . nixon is fantastic at it , and latley he wants "up" alot and its always when im cooking or on the loo or bathing gab .. i always try and get me and the 2 kids bathed before i have to pick up dh .. so all 3 of us strip and get in the shower , then i get out and wrap up gab , get my self dressed and then tend back to her while nix is in the bath , put her in her capsule , get nix out ,dress him and walk out the door ... sooo not as easy as it sounds but its one less thing i have to worry about when we all get back home ..

does anyone else get bored of being at home ... im am soo over it , but by the time i get to wherever i want to go , im tired and buggerd and look forward to going home again ..

i had a nightmare about my cleaner last night .. my mum was yelling at me about how lazy i was and that no one had help in her day and i should do it myself ... i always have nightmares aboout my mums opinion .. gee i have issues

eww i just got a whiff of nix's nappy ... ovbisoulsy yesterdays poo has come late and back with a vengance ...

Hi Everyone,

Sorry I've been lurking and not posting. :redface:

Lea - if it makes you feel any better I had a cleaner for about a year here in Oslo and I didn't have any kids then! I say that life is short and if you can afford it then your time and energy is better spent focussing on the things that matter rather than sweating the little stuff. PMSL at "gee i have issues"! I think most of us have approval issues with our mothers and to think that our kids (esp daughters) will go through the same things with us!! Circle of life (or Karma)! :lol:


Kell, thank goodness your mum arrived in the nick of time. I have no idea how I will cope when we have two little tykes, but I guess we just cope the best we can and try to grow extra arms!

Milly, good luck with the wedding. It sounds like a crazy week but one that is going to be jam packed with great events that will contain lovely memories for all of you. Sadly I am a bit jealous as I never got to be either a flowergirl or a bridesmaid! And I guess my flowergirl days are looooong behind me.

Niamh, I hope that Eireann settled back down for you over night. And thankyou for reminding me that I also need to organise for a pap test. I had one at 7 weeks when I had my dating scan and they said the results were inconclusive and to have another at six months. Well I wasn't about to have anyone poking around down there at 8 months pregnant so I have waited until after Beth arrived.

Danielle, I hope that you are all over your flu! I can't imagine being sick and looking after little ones too! But I know that at some point in my future I will but I am hoping it's far distant! :pray:

Mel, it sounds like Ali is going great guns! Beth has also put on heaps of weight too. I can't believe that you are working already (even if it is from home) I don't know where each day goes. Usually I look at the clock and it's midday and then I look again and it 6pm!

As for me, the count down is on! We land back in Melbourne in 10 weeks! :dance: I am so excited! A lot of my 'free' time now is focussed on wrapping up things here and organising for our return down under. DH's company is paying for a serviced apartment in South Yarra for us which is great and then Beth and I will stay with mum and dad when James heads over to Perth to start in the office after new year.

Beth is growing huge! She is in the 90th percentile for weight and I am looking forward to having her length check at her appt next wednesday as I think she has grown heaps. She looks so much bigger in her pram and moses basket.

I have a question for the group about growth spurts. We had a rather odd day yesterday where Beth wanted to sleep all day. She was so sleepy that at one point I could barely wake her and I got all panicky and took her temp (normal) and starting googling symptoms. In the end I thought fine if you want to sleep then I will put you to bed (6pm), but when i was undressing her to change into a sleep suit she perked right up and became the baby I know and love, really alert and wanting to play. So then I thought perhaps she was too hot so I let her kick around on her play mat for 10 mins wearing just a body suit and socks. Anyway, the googling yielded sleepiness as a side effect of a growth spurt. Has anyone else experienced this?

And does anyone here follow a 'routine'. I have been letting Beth set the routine and it has been working for all of us, but I'm starting to think that I should get her now used to going to bed at 7pm instead of 9ish. I tried to start a routine today but because she was acting so oddly sleepy it didn't really work! Oh well I will try again tomorrow!

Sorry for the long post. I suddenly found I had lots to say! And I also am suffering from insommnia when I feed during the night! (sorry can't remember who also was wide awake but I feel for you!)

Must try to go back to sleep now!

Erin

hi girls
how is it that babies can tell the very moment your about to eat, shower or sit on the toilet!?
thanks lea for the sugar tip it was so nice watching lucy having a poo without looking like her head was about to explode:) mind you her nappy nearly did i couldnt belive that much poo come out such a small person:o
lucy is trying to make her own routine but everytime i think i know what shes doing she has a bad day but then seems to settle back into the same feed and sleep times.
oh yeah about the mum thing im 27 and still worry everytime she comes round that shes going to 'tell me off' for something...but i still love her to bits:)
I also get very bored at home thats why im so glad that i found this lovely bunch of girls to share my everyday stuff and worries with:dance:
bye for now
tasha

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Niamh75 Didn't realise you were a fellow GD sufferer. I had GD with CHloe also. I had my 6 week checkup on Wednesday. OB did a pap smear and just checked all healed. I asked about the GTT as he didn't mention it and said that yeah I should probably have another test done as it was unusual that I got it. He gave me the thing to go get it done and said to go around the 3 month timeframe. Some people have said they've had theirs at 6 weeks and I assumed that also but OB said 3 months. I guess he is giving me plenty of time for my body to adjust back. Have you done any BSL's since birth? I did a few in hospital and they were all under 7 and I did one 1hr and 2hr after a bowl of ice-cream with topping and again under 7.

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I have a question for the group about growth spurts. We had a rather odd day yesterday where Beth wanted to sleep all day. She was so sleepy that at one point I could barely wake her and I got all panicky and took her temp (normal) and starting googling symptoms. In the end I thought fine if you want to sleep then I will put you to bed (6pm), but when i was undressing her to change into a sleep suit she perked right up and became the baby I know and love, really alert and wanting to play. So then I thought perhaps she was too hot so I let her kick around on her play mat for 10 mins wearing just a body suit and socks. Anyway, the googling yielded sleepiness as a side effect of a growth spurt. Has anyone else experienced this?

And does anyone here follow a 'routine'. I have been letting Beth set the routine and it has been working for all of us, but I'm starting to think that I should get her now used to going to bed at 7pm instead of 9ish. I tried to start a routine today but because she was acting so oddly sleepy it didn't really work! Oh well I will try again tomorrow!
Erin

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Erin - Yep have seen that Chloe got sleepy around her growth spurts. At 3 weeks she slept 11 hours straight and scared the #### out of me. I was poking her to make sure she was still breathing. Chloe loves "no nappy time" where I just pop her on a disposable change mat with her nappy off and she kicks and kicks like there is no tomorrow. Normally a wee follows and then when she starts getting a little cranky I dress her again and she is happy.

I haven't tried to set a routine for Chloe but I'm finding she is just making one herself. I note down her feed times as I was shocking in the beginning at remembering when she had fed and when she might be "due". And I can see a pattern now. If she wakes at around 4am then she has a different pattern than if she wakes around 7am but it's usually one of those times is her first feed and it goes from there. Because I am demand feeding it was just easier to do things as she wanted them and now she is putting herself in a routine which is great.

US - Well BF"ing is still an issue. I think my supply is now suffering because Chloe is not feeding properly. I have an appt with LC on Wednesday (was today but they had to change it). We had a shocker day on Wednesday after I had a chicken stir fry for dinner Tues night. She was up most of Wednesday with belly pains and no poo followed. I ended up sleeping on the lounge with her Wed night as she wouldn't lay flat on her back for more than 30 seconds without screaming in pain, and a blood curdling scream I might add. So yesterday we were much better. She had the afternoon with her poppy (alone without nana i might add) and he fed her EBM and a FF comp and they had a nap together then she came home and was all good. Then last night my supply was low so I had a 90ml EBM in the fridge and gave it to her. About an hour later she started screaming again and that was when I realised that half the EBM I'd expressed on Wed Night and half the Thurs morning so she'd gotten half a feed from the stir fry incident. Not happy jan and I felt so bad for her. I ended up giving her a full FF at 9pm to try and flush her out and voila!!!!! Mind you it resulted in her 2nd bath for the day and with mummy in with her.

This morning at 4am she fussed with BF and I had another 90ml EBM (from last night) so i gave her that and then she slept with me till 8.45am. I gave her 35 min BF at 9am but then she was fussing afterwards still even though she went to sleep on me so i gave her a 60ml comp FF and she finished it in record time, gave her another FF and she took another 30ml so I'm really not sure how much she is getting from the BF'ing at this stage.

I'm wondering if I'd be better of just expressing and giving her EBM and then a FF afterwards depending on what I've been able to express. At least I'd know what she was getting and would be less fussing with making up FF's etc.. So not sure what to do!

Sorry for long rant, my typing ers just took on a mind of its own!

Well we had another horrible night. And being on my own was terrible! DH was on a night shift and the kids decided they wouldn't sleep again. I think they're communication with each other as to who's turn it is to be awake. When one went to sleep the other woke up. Lily was up about 4 times, once for an hour, Liam was up about 4 as well and once for about 2hrs. I just want to have more than 2 hrs sleep at a time!! I'm hoping tonight is better, DH is on night shift again...I'm soooo tired, only about 3 or 4 hrs sleep again. Thankfully DH is home for a few days from tomorrow. Might go to mums tomorrow and she can look after Lil while I sleep with Liam. Ugh this sooo sucks, I'm really not enjoying it at the moment.....so when does it get easier??
Sorry no personals again, am going to tidy up and go to bed...

Hello ladies,

We had a better night last night, kind of. I was up a thousand times, but only quick trips for the dummy for Lily and feeds for Liam. And I went to bed at 7.30 which helped, mind you I didn't actually mange to get to sleep until 9pm cause of the kids...they're determined to not let me sleep, LOL! Though we did get a sleep in, until 6.45am, yay! A sleep in for us we're usually up at 5/5.30am.
DH is home for two days now so I get a bit of a break. He's taken Liam to bed now and Lily has just gone to sleep too. She's going to be up all night, but I just can't deal with her whinging cause she's tired, she fell asleep at the shops but only slept for about 20mins, soooo not enough for her when she's waking 5 times a night (no really it was 5 times last night, more than Liam, at almost 18mths....I really thought by now she'd be sleeping through :wall:). So I have half an hour or so for myself, woohoo!!
I have my 6wk check up next week, I am going to talk to the dr about pnd. I'm a bit worried I might be getting it, or at least some kind of depression. Yesterday was a really horrific day for me and I spent the day in tears. Lucky DH was hoem, though he was meant to be sleeping off a 14hr night shift. In the end he only got about 5hrs sleep...more than me, but still, he has a highly stressful jod which requires him to be alert. (Not that mine doesn't!!) So he helped me calm down, and we had a good talk this morning. I feel better today, but still pretty fragile. I don't know if I can just blame sleep deprivation anymore. I mean I am stiil horribly sleep deprived, and that's at least half of my problem, but I still think it could be depression/anxiety/stress....something like that.
Anyway enough about me!!

Lea, yeah, my mum is pretty good when I REALLY need her. But if she would just see that she could help before I get to the end of my tether then I wouldn't snap, kwim?? And I hear you on the judgement thing, I have that big time, if she comes over I'm constantly makeing excuses why theres washing in the sink or the clothes aren't packed away.
Your routine sounde good, like you hve it down pat! I haven't managed a routine yet and can't get out the door before 10ish. I'm lucky to be dressed by then! I find it hard too cause I have to try to get the two of them down 3 flights of stairs, not fun... But yep I'm soo sick of being home too, and so is Lily, she's so bored of her toys and this place, she's turned into destructo-girl and just pulls stuff apart that she shouldn't. She used to do it before too, but now, OMG, it's anything she can get her grubby little hands on! But it's hard to find motivation when I have to get them both ready and downstairs, then upstairs at the end of it all!

Erin, yayyy @ coming home, I can't imagine the feeling. I love coming home after a short holiday, I can't imagine being away from Aust for so long!
That's excellent that Beth is growing so big. I love having bigger bubs, I thin Liam is going to be a chubba bub, he's starting to grow out of his 000 already and fits into some 00 and he already looks so big for his car capsule. I'm getting him weighed next wed just to see how big he actually is!
We have no routine here, except for DD'S bed time routine! I'm just trying to get through the days here, but at this age I generally just let bub tell me what he wants.

Tasha, glad Lucy's pooing better, ther's nothing worse than a constipated baby. Lily used to get it alot when she was having formula too, I used brown sugar too, works a treat and all natural!!

oookk, gotta go, that's all the time I get, sorry I missed some of you....Hello, and I hope you're all well.

kel, i hope you get a break soon , and have a chat to your doctor , i did say i was getting worried about you , it my not me full blown depression , but it sounds like you need a bit of help ... and a whole lotta sleep ...
i cant believe liam is nearly out of 000 , i bought gabriella a 0000 yesterday as i have a huge stash of 000 and they are all too huge on her .. and i bought some more nappies for over night and i had to buy newborn still , but omg she is getting soo big .. i look at her and just see how much shes grown and its amazing .. and i kwym by lily pulling everything to shreads ... nixon does that too ..

speaking of wich he is awake now ... best go ..

hope everyone is enjoying their weekend .