Koru - I have borrowed a swing from a friend too. It is a god-send. Immi often naps in it andis actually asleep in it now. I also have one of those activity centres and would recommend it. I also have a Bumbo which will put Immi in once she has a bit more neck control. Ellee - good to hear that your DH is being more supportive. Misty - DS love playcentres. We are having DS's 2nd birthday party at one in a couple of weeks time. There will be around 10 kids so it will be chaos but hopefully a lot of fun. tk - most bubs don't like tummy time to begin with. I know a mum that did tummy time on the bed where she could actually be at face level with bub and not be lying on the floor. Another idea is to do TT in front of a mirror. salboo - its great to see them laugh and smile. We're not getting aby laughs yet but she is constantly smiling and cooing. Cass - good news that El is responding to the medication.
AFU - Immi is getting over her cough. I think I'll be able to get her vaccinated next week as planned. She now weighs 5.29kg so very pleased with how she is growing. She mostly wears 000 now.
My back is slowly getting better. Now I'm able to move around more freely I have heaps of housework to catch up on. Better get to it
Hi everyone, I was wondering if you'd mind if I joined you guys? I have a later August bub Alana (she was born on the 24th), but no-one really posts in the Aug 16-31st group and I'd love to talk baby talk with someone LOL. I am baby buddies with Saffi and Willow in the October '07 group so it's nice to see some familiar faces
Alana was born 2 hours after my birthday after a very quick and easy labour. I also have two boys - Joel (about to turn 5) and Kieran (about to turn 2) so life is very hectic atm! Alana is 7 1/2 weeks old and an absolute delight. She's very easy going and sleeps well, I can't complain at all.
I hope you all don't mind me crashing this group? I'd love to get to know you all! I can't promise I'll post frequently though, it's hard to find the time to sit down long enough right now!
Hi Trish, and welcome, you have children similar ages to mine so our lives would be similarly hectic LOL! Most people I know have the older one and the youngest one but not the one in the middle like me. Maybe I am the only crazy one? ;-) Other than you hehe.
Hi to everyone else
Saffi - Glad to hear Imi is getting over her cough. Brayden has had a cough for a while they always seem to hang around forever. Emily has also got a cough thats hanging around but its not causing any probs so Im not overly concerned. Fantastic weight gain for Immi too
Misty - Baz is a nice size, well done I think I might invest in one of those play table things with the seat too. They look good. We had one that they just stand at with Tahlia and Brayden but we gave it away. I like the look of the seat one better coz you can use it while they are younger and keep them in one spot for a while lol
Koru - I wouldnt worry too much about the milk oversupply, Im sure Orla and your Body will figure it all out eventually. Better than not having enough, if it doesnt calm down you could always express some and store it in the freezer, just make sure you date it and put how much is in there.
Ellee - Sorry to hear about your pop, you are probably on the aeroplane at the moment or could be in Perth already but I hope you have a safe trip. I hope Miss Z behave for you while you are away. They go through unsettled periods sometimes and its very distressing but try to stay calm and you will get through it, it wont last forever.
Cass - Glad the zantac is working. Yay for Els weight gain.
Tk - Yay for DD's weight gain too, thats awesome, such a tiny little thing. SOunds like she is doing well now which is great. I havent started to give Emily tummy time yet, I tried once and she didnt like it so I have worried again yet. Will probably start again in the next couple weeks or so.
Salboo - Max is growing nicely too, glad to hear he is sleeping well.
AFU - Emily is doing really well, she is very talkative when she is on her playmat with toy arch. Her face lights up when she sees me when she wakes up and she is all smiles and gooing and gaaing and she gets all excited. Im getting plenty of sleep at night (unless for whatever reason I cant sleep) but Emily usually only wakes once still and I am usually up with her for about 15 minutes max. She has one big sleep in the afternoon and the rest of the day is just catnapping mostly in the car or the pram or in my arms after a feed etc etc. I dont really time between her feeds, just go with the flow so sometimes she might feed again within the hour, sometimes it will be a couple hours during the day, then at night its about 5 - 6 hours between feeds. She gets her wind out ok now and doesnt usually have too many issues with belly pains, she has a bit of reflux but its not causing any issues so Im not concerned.
Im using cloth nappies during the day, but cant be bothered at night so we use one or two disposables at night, usually one is enough unless she dirties her nappy in the middle of the night which doesnt happen often anymore. I got babylove nappies on special and bought enough to last about 5 months cost me $48 so I think thats pretty good.
BFing is going awesome, never thought Id actually enjoy it. Only really wanted to do it for the cost savings compared to bottlefeeding and for the weightloss. It makes it so much easier when we go out. I have expressed enough for a couple of feeds aswell just in case I cant be with her for a feed for whatever reason. So far she has only had EBM in a bottle twice since she was born and I hated it both times, I felt so guilty even though she was still getting the good stuff.
Anyway, I better go, gotta finish cooking tea. Bye for now.
Question - how long does your BF take? It usually takes us at least 30 mins or probably longer and overnight I am usually up for around 90mins. I suspect there is alot of sucking and not much feeding going on. Got a script for Motillium so should probably look at increasing my supply. Given her weight gain she is getting enough nutrition between the BF and the FF but I wonder if its more due to the FF.
Saffi, Emily has a full feed usually in about 10 - 15 minutes. Unless she falls asleep, then she will hang on and just have a little suckle every now and then until I break the seal and take her off. Sometimes I let her just stay there for a while. The first week or two she would feed sometimes for up to an hour and a half, but the time slowly reduced as she learnt to suck properly.
Megan - Thanks for your welcome . You definitely sound as busy as me right now! I'm glad to hear BF'ing is going so well for you. Alana is a great little feeder too thank goodness!
Saffi - Alana usually takes 10 - 20 minutes to feed during the day and around 10-15 minutes for her overnight feed. 90 minutes is a long time you poor thing. Would you consider limiting her to 10-15 minutes per side? She most likely would get enough in that time and may just be dummy sucking after that. Otherwise ring the ABA for some advice?
Can I ask how many naps a day your bubs all take? Alana takes 4, but her last one in the late afternoon is pretty dodgy. She usually sleeps 30 minutes if I'm lucky and then I wear her in a baby carrier until her next feed. I know this is her arsenic hour so I just put up with it. It will pass one day (hopefully soon!).
Last edited by ~Trish~; October 17th, 2009 at 06:19 AM.
Trish!!!!!!!! Hello!!!! I'm so excited you're going to join us - YAY!!!
D is generally only having 3 naps but he is down for the night early at around 6pm so this doesn't bother me. His late afternoon sleep is dodgy too but I'm just going with the flow for now, trying to resettle and getting him up for a bath if I can't.
He has started sleeping in cycles this week - You remember how much fun that is! So I'm doing a lot of resettling during the day atm. Does my head in!! Sometimes he is able to resettle himself which is good and he is self settling to sleep initially pretty much every time these days so that's something. So trying not to stress too much and trust that he will get there eventually!
His general pattern is: wake at around 7am, feed. Back to bed at around 8am. He will generally be in bed for around 2 hours but this week I'm having to do a lot of resettling. He is then up at around 10ish, has a feed and back to bed at around 11am. He then does his big sleep of the day, usually around 3 hours. Up again around 2.30pm - 3pm, another feed and then back down at around 4pm. This sleep is pretty dodgy and I usually only get about an hour out of him. I always try to resettle but very rarely succeed. So he's then up at around 5pm, has a bath, a feed and then is down for the night at around 6pm. This is just the pattern he has established and I haven't tried to change it too much just yet. If he's happy to sleep from 6pm then I just let him go for now. He will usually wake between 11pm and 1am for a feed, then again at around 3.30am-4am.
Saffi - Our b'feeds are down to about 10-15 mins day and night. He feeds generally twice between 6pm and 7am and these are also quick feeds. But don't lose heart, some babies just take longer. Her feed times will decrease as she becomes more efficient - although I do understand you have a supply issue so this can't be ignored as a contributing factor either. The motilium sounds like a good idea. Google 'Galactagogue' - you may find some foods that can help with milk supply too. Have you tried drinking Aktivite?
Koru - I think we have a bit of an over supply issue too. There is still a lot of gulping, choking and gagging when he feeds, especially during let down but we're handling it OK. I am also feeding my almost 2yo once a day but the advice I've had from ABA is that wouldn't be contributing. At around 12 weeks the hormonal drive behind you milk supply will settle and then it is driven purely by baby's demand, so you will probably find things settle over the next month or so.
Tummy time - I don't really do it Have never done it with any of my babies actually because they've all had really good head control from birth.
We had our 8 week vax and it went really well. He was very sleepy that night and the next day but other than that, uneventful.
I think D is the smiliest, happiest of all my babies! Doesn't take much at all to put a big grin on his face and he's trying really hard to talk to us! LOL. He is very content and I've actually forgotten he is sitting quietly in his rocker quite a few times!
Better go, my mum is here atm and is making the big kids pancakes for breakfast.
Last edited by Willow; October 17th, 2009 at 07:11 AM.
Max's routine goes something like this. wakes for the day between 6.30 and 7.30am. Has a feed/play.He may have a catnap before he feeds again about 10/10.30. after this feed he may sleep from about 11am until 2/3pm.(3-4hrs) Upon waking, he has a feed, plays for about an hour or so.Has about an hours nap in the late afternoon. Has his dinner feed between 6 and 7. Goes to bed around 7.30/8 pm.Sleeps till around 2/3am. Has a short sleepy feed and wakes around 7ish.SO to answer your question Trish, he only really has one big sleep in the middle of the day and naps in the morning(maybe) and late afternoon(usually). There's no real routine with max, when he's hungry I feed him, when he seems tired, i just put him to bed or in his cradle swing.
Saffi- breastfeeding during the day is usually about 20 minutes( both breasts).In the night time he usually only has one, so about a 10 minute feed. I was thinking about buying a bumbo seat, and read you have one, do you recommend them? How old do they have to be to sit in one?
Koru- had a jolly jumper for DS1, we probably only used it about 3 times, he really didn't like being in there and it was alot of effort to get him in it. I bought a cradle/swing for Max and he LOVES being in there. Will usually have his day naps in there.
Better go and attempt some housework whilst DS1 watching cartoons and Max is playing happily................
Salboo - I put DS in the bumbo when he was about 4 months. I think they need to have good head control before they can be put in it. I would recommend them and we used ours a lot. Trish -we don't have set nap times but as a general rule it goes wake 5am, feed and then dozes between 6am and 8am. Feed 8am - 9am and then awake/doze time. Feed again around 11am - 12pm and then dozes. Feed again around 3pm - 4pm and then again at 5pm and then dozes and final feed around 8pm - 9pm. We put her down for the night and then may be up sometime between 1am - 3am. There are a lot of catnaps during this time and if we are in the car she will generally sleep or if I wear her in the sling so she does get some longer periods. Looking at this with the number of feeds I am giving her my supply should be great.
Immi slept from 9.30pm to 6am!!!!! She did stir at 5am but she went back to sleep. Pretty pleased about that.
Cass - so glad the zantac is working better for you both now.
Ellee - glad DH is better... can you get him to have a word to my DP... he seems to sway between being understanding and completely idiotic. I am so sorry to hear of your Pop's passing. My thoughts are with you and your family at this difficult time.
Koru - I had my ticker with bub & beyond and it stopped displaying so I changed over to the one with bubhub which also calculates Caitlin's corrected age which is so handy.
Misty - it is nice to get out of the house! That reminds me I have an activity set type thing that I have to dig out (bought well before DD was born LOL).
Saffi - goodluck with DS birthday. I don't have much play centre experience but am sure I will get much more exposure over the coming years. Tummy time on the bed sounds like the way to go. Some days she doesn't mind it and others she cannot stand it. I am not sure how long Caitlin's feeds take... to be honest I haven't really timed them... they are sometimes quick and other times she falls asleep so I will take her off but then she will wake but fall asleep if I put her back on.
Trish - welcome! Will add your details to the front page. DD can sometimes nap most of the day (ie catnaps of 20-30mins duration) and then other times she will take fewer but longer actual sleeps.
Megan - hope you have better luck with the tummy time when you try again.
Caitlin also likes her play gym activity mat. I also have Caitlin in cloth during the day (haven't attempted night at yet but hope to over the next few weeks eek!)
Willow - I am also tending to go with the flow rather than establishing a routine. Some family have said I am making a rod for my back but I figure it is my back and if I want to support it with a rod for the moment then so be it. Caitlin also has a few choking issues when my let down occurs. I am well aware of it now and am prepared (even for the early morning feeds when I can barely open my eyes)
AFM - Caitlin is going well. DPs dad is in hospital at the moment after a suspected heart attack (tests still being done) we went and saw him last night and Caitlin had the BIGGEST pooplosion out of her sposie. Eeeewwww it was everywhere. We had the pokiest little baby change area to try to clean her up. she is now asleep in the sling so I have put some washing on and finally (FINALLY) finished this post LOL.
Thanks TK and Salboo for your welcomes . And thanks for letting me know about your bub's naps. Alana is on a flexible kind of routine where I feed her 2 - 3 hourly throughout the day. I always try to have her in bed for the night by 7 - 7:30pm and I give her a dreamfeed at 8:30pm (I'd like to do it later, but I need to go to bed early these days!). She sleeps anywhere from 7 - 9 hours after her dreamfeed then is up for the day at around 7 - 7:30am. I look forward to her cutting down to 3 naps one day soon when she can handle a bit more wake time.
Willow - 6pm bedtime is great if D still doesn't start his day until 7am! Ugh @ the sleep cycles . Oh how I hope Alana doesn't start doing them soon. I've been holding my breath in hope LOL! She only has a 30 minute cycle so it would suck if she couldn't resettle herself!
Saffi - Woohoo @ Immi's massive sleep last night!!! Here's hoping she keeps it up . Alana slept from 8:30pm to 5:30am two nights ago and I thought I was going to explode LOL!
Ha ha, here I was saying I probably wouldn't post much in here.... It's just so nice to talk about babies again!
Trish - That's one thing, Ds cycles appear to be about 60 minutes, so it's not as bad as it could be. Having said that he had a solid 2 hours this morning and then 3 hours earlier. I had to go in half way through his last sleep and give him a dummy to resettle but overall he's having a much better day. I expected the sleep cycle thing, all 3 of mine have done it . They tend to do it early which is good in one way because they learn to resettle earlier too. I think D is going to be much better at resettling than L was but we'll see...
Tempted to try a dream feed but still a bit scared to! Might try tonight!
Ooh, and I keep meaning to tell you we got your thank you card - very cute! Thank you.
Last edited by Willow; October 17th, 2009 at 02:18 PM.
Willow - I'm so jealous, Alana never naps for 3 hours! I'm lucky if she'll do a 2 hour nap for me, she's such an alert little thing, always wanting to be part of the action. A 60 minute sleep cycle is ideal, D is such an angel . Good luck with the dream feed! Just keep in mind that it can take a few days before it works well. Alana wouldn't take one at first, then when she started taking it she'd still wake up early out of habit. Now she's finally gotten the hang of doing her long sleep stretch after that feed. I've probably only been doing it for just over a week or two now.
Trish - Yeah, he is such a good boy most of the time, I shouldn't complain! His sleep cycles seem a bit funny to me...I know they can be up to 60 mins but I guess I've never been that lucky! LOL Wondering if he's actually stirring at the 45min mark, trying to resettle and then calling out when he can't which is around 60 mins Anyway, he's had a really good day today had another solid hour this afternoon so I haven't had to do much resettling at all which is nice after yesterday!
Just put him down for the night and he nodded straight off, he's a bit over tired cause we have family here for pizza tonight...so I'd better go!
Am going to try the dream feed tonight - thanks for your advice...will let you know how we go
Thanks Trish for the dream feed advice - I wasn't sure how to introduce one as DD tends to just wake up if I try to feed her or I can't get her interested but I will continue at my attempts to get one in there!
Willow - how did you tell the length of the sleep cycle? it is something you picked up from experience. I just thought DD was waking when she starts stiring... cause she usually does wake up but am I reading right that if I help her to settle she might sleep longer?
TK - Yep, learnt through experience! All babies sleep in cycles of between 20-60mins. At the end of the first cycle some babies will stir, open their eyes, look around and then just nod back off. A lot of babies won't though, they'll wake and cry etc and will need help to move into the next sleep cycle. If you notice your bub is waking after 30-40mins, big chance is they've just gotten through one sleep cycle and can't transition to the next, deeper cycle of sleep.
I noticed this week that DS would often start calling out (I know that sounds weird but he does! It's not really a cry more of a 'wha' sound and that's it) at the one hour mark. Ideally at this age you'd want a baby to sleep for about 2 hours so I always try and resettle him to get him back to sleep. It is hard work with most babies but eventually they get the idea that they need to sleep longer and as they get better at self settling they will just resettle themselves between sleep cycles and start sleeping longer.
Trish and I are old pros - our 2 year old boys both did this for weeks and weeks when they were little!
Can't wait for my avvy to be updated...feel like I"ve been prg for an eternity!
Last edited by Willow; October 17th, 2009 at 07:16 PM.
I think I might invest in one of those play table things with the seat too. They look good. We had one that they just stand at with Tahlia and Brayden but we gave it away. I like the look of the seat one better coz you can use it while they are younger and keep them in one spot for a while lol
You remember how much fun that is! So I'm doing a lot of resettling during the day atm. Does my head in!! Sometimes he is able to resettle himself which is good and he is self settling to sleep initially pretty much every time these days so that's something. So trying not to stress too much and trust that he will get there eventually!
Have never done it with any of my babies actually because they've all had really good head control from birth.
. And thanks for letting me know about your bub's naps. Alana is on a flexible kind of routine where I feed her 2 - 3 hourly throughout the day. I always try to have her in bed for the night by 7 - 7:30pm and I give her a dreamfeed at 8:30pm (I'd like to do it later, but I need to go to bed early these days!). She sleeps anywhere from 7 - 9 hours after her dreamfeed then is up for the day at around 7 - 7:30am. I look forward to her cutting down to 3 naps one day soon when she can handle a bit more wake time.
. Oh how I hope Alana doesn't start doing them soon. I've been holding my breath in hope LOL! She only has a 30 minute cycle so it would suck if she couldn't resettle herself!
Anyway, he's had a really good day today had another solid hour this afternoon so I haven't had to do much resettling at all which is nice after yesterday!
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