PP - wait to see the LC and see what they say before you up any meds. I don't know what the contra-indicators are of fenugreek other than diahorrea. (sp?) and smelly farts. Oh, and that means that Quoll's poos really stink too. Same with the nipple shields. If you can, there's a book I borrowed through the ABA, "The Breastfeeding Mother's guide to Making More Milk" by Diana West & Lisa Marasco which is quite good.
heheheheee, I call Quoll "squawker" too!!!!
We're having a horrid night, need to check the wonder weeks book as he just isn't settling, but he is lifting his head and watching me while lying on my tummy. Very bright eyes, watching everything... man I hope I get some sleep tonight.
We had great day but hit 7pm and we had screaming for two hours. She ended up falling asleep with us and that's where she spent most of the night (only a short stint in her basinette i think). She's asleep in my arms right now, going to try put her in the basinette. Wish me luck
Yay PP!!!!!!! Reading that brings a huge smile to my face, you must feel relieved. Have confidence in yourself and your body and use the info to help at the same time. So happy things are looking up. Hope immus are ok, from my expereince the boys were fine and never had any distinct reactions. Good luck xox
Harper is still in bed and the boys are outside playing, i'm trying to eat breakfast but i keep finding things to pick up and put away ALREADY. The house is spotless when i go to bed and it takes minutes of my little terrors being up for that to change.
How was your night Kaz? Did your little man stop doing his streches and rest? It could be that my memory is failing me (convienently) but i'm sure Harper's 'witching hour' is worse than what the boys was.
Hi Myboys - yes, turned out OK, I gave him his dummy then put him down in his cradle so I could go to the loo - he had a little whinge but then settled to sleep, wondering if he was just overtired? I checked the wonder weeks book and the first major leap is at 5 weeks - now they say that it could be a week either side, and that it's taken by the EDD so he should be almost 4 weeks now, which means he might be starting that leap?
Out of curiousity, what do your boys do during the day? DH relies heavily on the TV to keep Pip amused, and that really doesn't make me happy.
PP - YAY on the booby juice!!!!! well done!!!!! Keep your water intake up too hun!!!! Good luck with the vax - hard to believe she's almost 2 months!!!!
AFM - my pump isn't getting anything out now, trying to source another pump, the LC has recommended one specific pump and I can't find it anywhere. Plus the ABA has shut down for holidays ... not open till the 11th...
I really need a haircut, I think the last one was in May. *sighs* My hair is so ratty.
That's great pixie. Forgive me for saying this, but I think your problem is more with confidence than supply. But either way, you're getting there.
Arsenic hour - why do they call it that when it lasts at least 3 hours? This week I'm blaming everything on the antibiotics. I swear she's feeding 15+ times a day. Thank god it's cooler today.
Myboys, I hate that too! What's the point in cleaning at all? (except that I don't want to live in a filthy cess pit, you know?) I like to clean in the morning on one of DS' daycare days - then I get a few hours of clean house to enjoy before the boys come home.
Oh, I always change at night if they're very wet or dirty. Just asking for nasty nappy rash otherwise.
Kaz, we have never really had any kind of routine. DD I'm bathing most nights as she enjoys it and sometimes DS likes to help (and might get in after her - we still have dramas getting him to wash some days and don't even ask how often he gets his teeth brushed )
MadB – You poor thing with all that heat!! Hope it eases soon so you can enjoy your cuddles without all that extra body heat burning you up! Great news on the weight gain! You’re doing a great job! Jacob feeds about as often as your DD. I never leave Jacob in a dirty nappy, I don’t want him getting any rashes….besides, he won’t sit in a dirty nappy for more than two mins anyway…
Kaz – your cookies sound so yummy! We’ve been using a dummy too, Jacob likes to comfort suck and it’s killing my nipples at the moment as I’m still dealing with the oral thrush issue.. You poor thing with the bleed, has it eased now? I hope they can give you some answers at your appointment and it’s sorted out asap. Make sure you take care of yourself Good on you with all the expressing, you’re a machine!! Excellent news on the weight gain!! And yay for having a shower, it’s such a wonderful treat these days isn’t it?
PP – Yay on the increase of supply! I knew everything would be fine, hang in there, you’re doing a wonderful job. Good luck with the vaccinations!
Audux – Try not to beat yourself up too much about the dummy, you did your best, and it doesn’t mean you will have to use it as a permanent thing, you can make it work for you..
Myboys – Sounds like you’re doing a great job, definitely don’t over think things too much, you’ve done this twice already and done it so well! I am super impressed that you are using cloth while looking after three little ones!!
Cathie – Good luck with Charlie’s hearing test, I’m sure all will be fine.
Crumpet – Definately much to learn!! Smiles are the best!! I’m getting a few each day now, very random..but it all started when he was beginning to really listen when I spoke/sung to him and he’s getting a lot easier to distract. Hope Summah starts smiling for you soon look forward to hearing all about it when she does! Definately agree with you about how fast time goes..
Jules/crumpet - Totally agree with time, the older you get the quicker it goes. I'm 39 this year, I still feel like I'm 30 just a few more wrinkles and some extra flab around the belly and bum. I can't believe my eldest is 15 this year now that has gone by so fast.
Kaz - when I was preggo my hair was soo strong, now it's falling out and it looks soo dull. I'll get a hair cut soon. When Charlie cries all kids run over to him, I say leave him alone his just having a squawk.
I had a bleed after the twins where born and I ended up back in hospital, they gave me antibiotics. what happened with me is that not all the placenta came out and some was left and blood clots where forming. I hope everything is fine with you.
Myboys - I hear you on the cleaning, my house is all nice and tidy before I go to bed and than the twins rise and shine and the house is trashed . I don't know how 2 little people can make a huge mess. They are little devils.
PP - Yay More milk excellent. I'm glad you feel better.
Well charlie is fine he has a crying session once a day but you can't pick when it's going to happen, I just pray that it dose not happen at the making dinner, bathing children time. His asleep now been asleep since 11.00am, so been able to do the house work.
Have a great day Ladies.
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Kaz i think Harper's 'witching hour' has a lot to do with overtiredness/over stimulated but then again she slept so well yesterday... So i don't know. Maybe once you have half an hour of the unsettledness it's hard for them to calm themselves and relax!? I don't have the wonder weeks book, you'll have to keep us informed of when they are and what to expect.
As for keeping the boys occupied... When we get up and the tv is pretty much turned on but that is to distract them while i prepare breakfast. They tend to find something and start playing with it also so then the tv is just something that is in the background. Charlie doesn't take much notice of it but Aidan switches between toys and tv/dvd. When Charlie came along I did feel a lot of guilt about how much time Aidan spent in front of the tv it but it's one of those 'if it works' things. In this weather the boys can play outside so again they kind of switch between in and out. When the tv is on and i have a moment to sit i try and sit with them and talk about what's on, what they are watching, what they are doing, colours shapes things like that. We pretty much only watch ABC 1 or 2 and dvd's. If the tv is on and they boys aren't around i turn it off to try and have some no tv time. Aidan sometimes helps me make dinner or bake something and will often ask me to help with things like build some tracks for Thomas the Tank or craft. We have managed to accumalate two big drawers full of craft stuff and i save some boxes and they cut and paste sometimes. They can be pretty demanding at times because when they were at day care they'd do so much interesting stuff i find i struggled to be able to occupy them with interesting stuff at times. One thing Aidan and I would do together was sometimes look on the ABC for kids website but he really doesn't know how to use the computer that well. We sometimes go for a walk to the park just down the road. That is what's happening now for the school holidays, once they are over there are few daily activities that keep us a bit busier. Charlie boy just wanders and is in his own little world, he actually occupies himself quite well and he also has a 2 hour sleep each day still. We bath every second day depending on how dirty they are and that is usually about 4:30ish and then have dinner about 5:30ish and then bed between 6:30 and 7:30pm. Hope that helps a little Kaz.
Well, Miss Millie is up to 4.07kg now! That's 1.02kg up on birth weight, and given that she lost a lot in the first few days, I'm pretty chuffed. She screamed the place down with the shots of course, but settled down pretty quickly (I gave her a dummy so I didn't speed on the ride home!). Got her feeding as soon as we got home, which was okay, then she dropped the bb and screamed blue murder - that's never happened before. Would have been about an hour post-shot by then. Tried to calm her down but she was so upset - tried taking her temp (under arm thermometer, I mean really, how can you keep an infant still long enough to get a proper read on that thing?) and got to 37.1 before she squirrelled it out from under her arm and yelled even louder. I decided to give her a dose of panadol. She gave me a "well that was disgusting" look and yelled some more so I just cuddled her and walked her around until she settled enough to go back on. She finished her feed and has finally settled down to sleep and I've got myself some lunch. Phew, what a morning!
Thanks everyone for your support and encouragement. MadB, you're forgiven, not just because you're right - I know I'm my own worst enemy when it comes to confidence. Like I said, everything can be sailing along well, but one little hiccup and I assume the worst.
Myboys I'm glad Harper went down but booooo to housework I love the sound of the life you have with your boys - I can't wait to be doing craft and going for walks with my little girl.
Kaz good luck finding the pump. Great timing, innit? Everyone says, "AW, Christmas baby, how lovely..." but when services we need are on holidays it can be tricky!
MadB I blamed Millie's oral thrush on my antibiotics. Antibiotics can cop the blame for everything as far as I'm concerned!
Cathie it's lovely that your kids run to look after Charlie! That's what I like about DH's big family - they all look out for each other, no matter what.
Off to express now - hope everyone is having a good day!
Kaz just was thinking a little more, we have a few different floor puzzles (nice big pieces), memory games, domino games & play doh, they are good as they are quick and easy, keep their attention for just the right amount of time. All these are things i do with Aidan when Charlie is in bed
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Wow myboys, you're amazing! All those things.
I guess DS is still at the entertain-himself stage, so I just leave him to it most of the time. He did have his first playdoh adventure the other day - what a mess! - and played happily for a couple of hours 'cooking' and making things.
Jules, how're things for you guys? You sound bright and cheerful - loving those smiles hey?
Cathie - surely there's something else you could be doing besides housework?
I've been having some intermittent bleeding and my midwife has asked me to go get a scan. Will see the doc tomorrow and take it from there - might be some retained product.
Pixie - woah, she's getting big. And that's a great gain so far. It's kinda funny to think that DD was almost that heavy at birth With the cloth nappies she's pretty much too big for 0000 already.
I remember that those 2-month shots were the only ones that DS reacted to - he was quite listelss and sleepy for a day or so and went off his feeds (this was the boy that never slept and ate constantly). Oh, and that baby panadol tastes vile! I think there's another brand of paracetemol stuff that's better...? anyone know? DS loves nurofen, but will not take panadol (I've tried it and I'm not surprised)
DD seems a bit more comfortable today after finally pooing (well it was only 2 days, so you won't be impressed Audax )
Cathie - Gosh you're lucky Charlie boy sleeps long enough for you to care for his siblings and get the housework done...!! You must be one incredibly busy lady...
PP - what a morning alright. Glad it all worked out in the end and Millie got some rest. Poor little things, needles suck!
MadB - Great news on the poo! What a relief that must be!! No explosion necessary We're doing ok here thanks...mum is leaving tomorrow so a little nervous. Jacob is doing a lot better, but we still have our moments. My main issue at the moment which we're just going with the flow with is he's snack feeding. He has enough milk to top him up and feel good, then he falls asleep and comfort sucks.. I try waking him up by changing his nappy etc and sometimes it works, and he'll go back on to drink but then comfort suck only a few minutes later. Most of the time he will go down into the basinette with a dummy and comfort suck himself to sleep. It can take an hour to feed with all the time spent waking and changing (cause most times he can dirty his nappy two/three times!) and then I can get him down but never get more than an hour out of his sleep. I think this is due to him not having a 'full feed'. I really don't know. I'm just doing my best and relaxing as much as I can about it...he wakes up when he's hungry and I just have to take the opportunity to sleep while he does. I am eagarly awaiting my close carrier so when mum leaves I can put him in there and take him out to do things like the washing etc...but unfortunately the floods out here are so bad that there is no mail getting to us whatsoever...I just hope and pray it doesn't get lost!! We are devastated that I can't see the Community Health Nurse till next Monday at LEAST thanks to these floods...it's so frustrating to not be able to get the help we really need. Christmas, New Year, flooding...what more can interfere! *sigh* oh well.. I like to think I'm doing ok. Oh, and yes, enjoy some beautiful smiles! Yesterday was just extra special when mum decided to change one of his nappies while I was able to talk to him and enjoy his smiles... however!! she took a little long putting his nappy on and he weed all over me! FACE INCLUDED. I bolted into the bathroom while mum picked herself up off the floor in hysterics!!
xoxo
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Oh just quickly Kaz and MadB I have had a read of your birth stories. They were both such a pleasure to read! You both did an incredible job, you should be so proud... Thanks so much for sharing.
Jules - hehehe, Will wee'd all over the MCHN & DH yesterday.
Thanks for the tips myBoys & MadB. Will try some playdoh.... DH ust doesn't have the patience to interact though, and wants "results"
PP - well done hun!!!!!
Cathie - we're the same age the, well, I'm 39 on the 16th. Was looking at a tv ad for a train holiday and mentioned to DH that i'd like to do it, but that all the people in the ad were old .. DH said the looked about his age :shock:
Oh PP here i was telling you all should be fine, so sorry to hear that Millie was so unsettled I hope she had a good sleep once she finally settled. I despise housework and i'm thinking of paying to have it done again Life is great with my little chickens and i count myself sooooo lucky every single day, even when it gets tough. I look forward to you being able to experience the joy Millie and her future siblings will bring both you and DH.
MadB i don't do all those things in one day I'd be superwoman if i did but i'm not. It varies as to what we do as to what the boys are asking for. They go through stages, a few months ago we were building things with boxes all the time and Thomas wasn't getting played with at all, now not much building is going on but Thomas is quite popular again. So the play doh was successful?? Charlie eats it It's a bit the same here, 0000 don't fit with a cloth nappy. We generally use Neurofen or the chemist brand of panadol here. Also love your new avatar also, how do i get myself one of those?
Kaz yay on the 20mls!!! Keep it coming. I had thought about something like that for a new user name but thought it might have been a little too wordy. I'm thinking i promise. Kaz Aidan can be quite demanding of my time and it can be quite draining but i try to interact and keep him occupied. He has this memory card game and i started playing it with him late last year and i was surprised how well he did it and what he's actually capable of. His memory is better than mine!!! Oh i hope you find a breastpump soon, what about online??
Jules i'll be thinking of you tomorrow, you can do it!! I remember being so nervous when Peter has gone back to work with all 3 and then the days ended up being not has bad as i thought they would. Good luck, relax and enjoy your little man. Ohh i love your wee story, that's a good one
Harper has had a really good relaxed day again today and tonight's witching hour wasn't so bad. She had a few little/big swarks but not to the extent of the last few nights. She's asleep in her basinette right now. I'm thinking her witching hour/irritable at the bb at the end of the day has to do with a slower supply? Harper seems to get irritable on the bb at the end of the day but at the same time as her carrying on she's getting milk all over her face. I know my milk is there but maybe it's just not coming fast enough for her. Greedy guts Lets hope we have a good night.
Tomorrow we're going to have Harper's hand and feet impressions done and i've called on my cousin's daughter (i think she's 15) to help me. She's been wanting to come and have a day with me also so the company will be nice. And i've been trying to organise Aidan's bday party, i'm just going to have it at a play centre as i don't have the time or energy to do it myself. He's so excited for his bday that i didn't have the heart to skip the party this year.
Hope you all get some good chunks of sleep tonight ladies xox
You konw, I don't think it actually ocurred to DS to eat it. Just as well. He had a ball with it - not game to let him play with it often though. Have to figure out soem way of containing the mess. Anyone know how to get playdoh out of carpet...?
Myboys, you'll have to upgrade to platinum membership to get an avatar, then you can ask one of the avatar makers to do one for you (or you can do your own or upload a picture yourself).
I think the fussiness at the boob is more to do with their discomfort than supply/flow. They feel ugh so they go for the breast, but they don't really need it so they pull off, but they're uncomfortable so they go for the breast, but it's not working so they pull off... It's fun though isn't it? DD always waits till just after letdown to pull off and cry when she's arsenicing... what a mess.
Kaz, is your DH into handyman stuff or gardening or anything like that? DS loves doing things with DH and "helping" him (he's a hinderance really, but anyway). He is pretty good at watering plants.
So, is it your birthday soon...?
Jules, hope you're going ok today. That sucks about the flooding - hope you can get some mail through soon (and see your nurse). at his aim - what a clever boy.
Pixie, if you want to have a laugh at my confidence issues, check ou the squashed nipples thread in breastfeeding problems & support. Man, I would not take advice from this woman
everyone else. Hope you and your babies are doing well
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Not sure if it's a placebo effect or what, but I definately have more milk today
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Good on you with all the expressing, you’re a machine!! Excellent news on the weight gain!! And yay for having a shower, it’s such a wonderful treat these days isn’t it?
With the cloth nappies she's pretty much too big for 0000 already.
I hope she had a good sleep once she finally settled. I despise housework and i'm thinking of paying to have it done again
Life is great with my little chickens and i count myself sooooo lucky every single day, even when it gets tough. I look forward to you being able to experience the joy Millie and her future siblings
It's a bit the same here, 0000 don't fit with a cloth nappy. We generally use Neurofen or the chemist brand of panadol here. Also love your new avatar also, how do i get myself one of those?
at his aim - what a clever boy.
everyone else. Hope you and your babies are doing well
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