Babies born December 1st-15th 2010 #1

[Georgi]

CRUMPET - Our little ones share the same Birthday!

Hi all.... Sorry I've been MIA. I've been laid up in bed with severe Mastitis. I came on so quickly on Monday night. I ended up calling a doctor out to my house at midnight to give me a penecillan injection as DH was at work, on night shift & I couldn't get to the hospital. I had a fever of nearly 40 degrees. Was shaking like mad & knew I couldn't go on the whole night like that. OMG, it was just awful. DH ended up coming home from work around 3.30am as I just couldn't hold Eden. I couldn't stand up for more than a minute. And there was no way I could've looked after DS1 when he woke up at 5.30am. I spend a full two days in bed with Eden, just feeding & sleeping. Then another day sitting on the couch. DH was great looking after DS1, cooking & cleaning. Yesterday was the first day I actually felt better. I'm on antibiotics, which are just awful. They really play havoc with my guts, and I'm pretty sure some is transferring through my BM so Eden's tummy has been upset too.

Other than that we're doing fine. Eden is still a great baby. He does have an usettled period every day, which is at different times (sometimes 1am), and lasts for around 2 hours sometimes more. Some nights he'll have a long 6 hour stint between feeds, which is great for me to catch up on some sleep, and other nights he'll feed 3 to 4 hourly. I'm getting use to the lack of sleep now and seem to cope ok during the day. If DS1 didn't wake so early (5.30am) then I'd be much better.

I'll catch up with you all over the next week.

[luna moth]

Today is Day 11 without poo. thinking it might be time to fashion some sort of protective armour.

We're getting into a bit of a routine - well, she's more predictable - and day sleeps have been improving, especially since I stopped listening to my mum, who misread every cue as "tired" only then made faces at her while I was trying to get her to sleep. Frustrating!

crumpet - if you went up a teat and theres no issues, I would say stick with it. It's not like you can never change back.

Kaz - how are you going with feeding now? Thought of you yesterday cos I had a little beer - DH's homebrew, bottle conditioned, so heavy on the yeast, and I leaked all night!

Georgi - yucko on the mastitis. Awesome that you could call a doctor out. Hope it improves for you.

[Jules84]

Hey all,

Just dropping by to say hello and hope you're all doing well. I'm not coping very well at the moment. Long story but Jacob still doesn't sleep beyond 30 mins and it takes ages to get him to sleep. Busy as trying to keep up with creams for my nipples, drops for his throat, sterilising of dummies (scrubbing with salt and boiling). DH and I are fighting like crazy, he just doesn't help me with Jacob whatsoever, and is very limited in what he does around the house, he's more interested in going to the gym or playing on the laptop. Last night I cried for hours, spoke to my mum on the phone as DH was at work. Tried to talk to him when he got home and he picked a fight and went to bed. It's all a very long story I won't bore you with but needless to say, the whole thing is a mess and I just dont' know what to do. If I hadn't had a c-section I would drive up north to my family who's offered to help me if I want to go up. I asked DH if he would drive me and he said no. Anyway, hope you're all doing better than me, the unshowered mess that I am at the moment.

[*EJ*]

Just have to offer some hugs Jules, can't do too much more right now as i've got a grumpy bub in my arms. Stay strong and just look after yourself and your little man. I'll be back when i can xoxo

[onthefly]

Oh Jules, I'm sorry to hear that. It's a big adjustment for dads and some of them just don't seem to 'get it' early on. Sometimes I think mums need to be really explicit - I mean with instructions about what dads need to do. Unfortunately some just kinda get childish and feel usurped because their partners are so busy with the baby they feel left out... I don't know what's going on with your hubby, but I really hope you can get through to him.
Anyway, it's no good for you or your little man - you need help and support! Did the mail start coming through yet? I wonder if the carrier will help a bit, at least during the day.

Geez Audax, she can really hold on!

Georgi, you poor thing! I had it a week ago - only 39 degrees here You got it really bad, hey? Glad you're feeling better and getting a bit of rest at least. DS is the same getting up so early

Crumpet, if that's working then it's working

DD is still keen on sleeping during the day and not so much at night. I will not complain - at least she sleeps!

[cathie5]

Hi

Jules - All I can offer you is big hugs. If you don't mind me asking how old is your hubby.
Georgi - I'm glad you feel better. I'm so lucky my kids get up at 8.00am.
MdaB - how are you feeling . no more bleeding.
Crumpet - Charlie is 3 weeks today and he is stiil on a slow flow teat. It takes him 30 mins some feeds and 20 mins other feeds. I gave him a med flow the other day and it came out tooo fast for him and he started to cough and carry on so his back on the slow flow teats. His drinking between 130 - 150mls. Because he sleeps all night 10.30pm to 6.00am I feed him 3 hourly during the day. He brings up his wind really well both ways.

Cathie

[Jules84]

Hey thanks girls, I'm sorry to offload and look like I'm saying I'm hard done by, I'm just really at a loss as to what to do lately, I feel like I'm raising two children..

MadB - That's great little Miriam is sleeping, even if it's only through the day - better than nothing right? Yeah the mail is coming through again thankfully!! I received my carrier and gave it a go yesterday while he was upset but he didn't calm in it at all, then gave it another shot today and it was the cutest thing, he was screaming and then the minute I put him in he looked up at me like "hey...this is alright..." it only lasted a while but he was really over tired so I didn't push it. We'll just ease into it slowly, but I think it's going to be a success! Thanks for the suggestion. Yeah I know it can be hard on the men too, and it's hard for them to adjust to sharing their partners but I let him have his full nights sleep, I am sleeping in the lounge so at least one of us can get some rest... you think that would show him that I care about him but noooo, not my DH. Every time we fight he says "if you don't like it here then leave" and I don't know where he gets that from as I actually never complain.. but other night I was so angry and upset cause I had Jacob crying and him yelling at me so I said "don't you get it? I leave and that means Jacob leaves too...!!" and he said "I'm not scared". I'm just fighting a losing battle here.

Cathie - I don't mind you asking. He is 29 later this year, old enough to know better. Glad to hear Charlie boy is still doing so well.

[onthefly]

Oh god Jules! I'm not really one for relationship advice, but it doesn't sound like he's coping too well. I don't want to sound too sympathetic towards him - you're the one needing help here! I do really hope you guys can figure something out. Maybe he needs to talk to someone - another bloke who can give him a straight talk about parental responsibility?
Anyway - fingers crossed the carrier helps you out. IT does take some getting used to for them. I tend to have to jiggle and walk around a fair bit when DD is unsettled. With DS we could hever sit down when he was in the hug-a-bub, or even stand still for very long.

Thanks Cathie - doing ok. the bleeding has pretty much stopped, but still having the scan tomorrow. just to be sure all ok.

[*EJ*]

Gong to join the craziness here...

Aidan is being a real challenge again, he mellowed a bit but at the moment he is slightly unwell and i think that may have something to do with it. I've made an appt for him but i'm kind of expecting them to say 'it's viral, nothing we can do'. He's just been waking up the last few mornings complaining of a sore throat and he's just soooo difficult right now. Charlie has also been copping a bit of his anger so i think i better rule out the illness and then know that i'm just dealing with this whole settling in period. Last week Charlie was pushed and hit his head on a toy which cut him just above the eye, there's been a few more pushes that were close calls and then last night Aidan bit him on the cheek and you can see graze marks beginning just below the bottom eye lid going down his cheek. Aidan has never been a biter until now, he's got so much fustration when things don't go his way.

Anyway it's been a challenge so along with everything else not a lot of time at the moment. Harper had her first bad night getting to sleep in quite a few so that wasn't fun either. I walked her in the sling with no luck, fed her over and over, patted her bott over and over, there was so much inconsoleable crying that just kills me, i wish she wouldn't get to that point even when she's lying in our arms. In the end all i could do was lay down with her in my arms, hold her tightly and pat her bottom firmly and she settled, started up again a couple of times before she finally fell asleep. Had an ok night though, i think we had 2 x 3 hour blocks!!!! She was probable exhausted from the evenings effort. Off to the MCHN today, i'll have a chat with her and see what she thinks. Is she really going to say that getting to the extent she gets to so often is really normal????????? It's just that my boys rarely got to that extent with their cries and i worry about the anxiety or distress her little brain must be going through so young when she does it. And we just can't seem to stop it.

Anyway i will be back for personals when i can ladies. Hope you're all well xoxo

[onthefly]

Myboys, sounds so much like my DD! If you're there with her, then you're helping her, even if she's still screaming. Just holding her will reduce her stress levels (it just doesn't always seem like it).
DD had a big screaming session last evening, then had a pretty reasonable night once she finally fell asleep. Was at it again this morning then.... poo! and now she's settled again.

[cathie5]

hey ladies,

Myboys - If you don't pick charlie up as soon as he starts to cry he ends up crying and crying and crying and all I can do is hold him firmly and pat his bottom with his dummy in his mouth and he settles down. I know how you feel when they get worked up.
MadB - Good luck with the scan.

AFM - Well I started to really focus on the twins last week with the toilet training, we had soooo many wet pants and wee everywhere. I said to my hubby I can't do this the house is going to stink and than on thursday it clicked with Hana and she has been using the potty. Yay, yay, yay. Sam is still picking it up, I am so happy. Charlie is well he loves having his showers at night with his daddy. Taking the kids to the movies tomorrow to see tangled. Have a great day.

Cathie

[Jules84]

MadB - had a small chat with DH last night when he was a little calmer as I'd done some research and spoken to a counsellor myself about what had been going on and I've got a number he can call for a chat about everything that's changed lately and how he can cope with it. Worth a shot. He told me he'll think about calling, so fingers crossed! Gave the close carrier another go today, he stops crying but it's so funny, he won't just relax in there yet he leans right back and watches my face..it's the funniest thing! Good luck for your scan today, I am sure everything will be fine. Thinking of you.

Myboys - Gosh you poor thing you have so much to deal with there!!! I hope Aidan settles down for you soon, good luck at the appointment..! I hear what you're saying about hearing them cry. I'm slowly figuring Jacob out with his crying, sometimes he actually cries to tell me he's tired and wants to be put down, but we have this ritual that's worked the past two days reasonably well - I put him down, wrap him, and pop a dummy in his mouth and I play the sound "shush" through the laptop. I called a baby helpline the other night to ask about the oral thrush and if he could be affecting his sleep and she gave me some settling techniques, and it involved a lot of 'shushing' so I found it on the internet so I didn't have to do it myself for 40 mins!! (slack I know!) it works a treat... She also read a list out to me of 'typical newborn behaviour' and so many of the things our little ones are all doing is just totally normal. I do hope that you can get some help from your nurse either way cause hearing them get so worked up is so heart breaking.

Cathie - What an awesome job with toilet training!!! Hope Sam catches up to little Hana soon Toilet training while handling a new born, nice work.

[crumpet]

CRUMPET - Our little ones share the same Birthday!

Hi all.... Sorry I've been MIA. I've been laid up in bed with severe Mastitis. I came on so quickly on Monday night. I ended up calling a doctor out to my house at midnight to give me a penecillan injection as DH was at work, on night shift & I couldn't get to the hospital. I had a fever of nearly 40 degrees. Was shaking like mad & knew I couldn't go on the whole night like that. OMG, it was just awful. DH ended up coming home from work around 3.30am as I just couldn't hold Eden. I couldn't stand up for more than a minute. And there was no way I could've looked after DS1 when he woke up at 5.30am. I spend a full two days in bed with Eden, just feeding & sleeping. Then another day sitting on the couch. DH was great looking after DS1, cooking & cleaning. Yesterday was the first day I actually felt better. I'm on antibiotics, which are just awful. They really play havoc with my guts, and I'm pretty sure some is transferring through my BM so Eden's tummy has been upset too.

Other than that we're doing fine. Eden is still a great baby. He does have an usettled period every day, which is at different times (sometimes 1am), and lasts for around 2 hours sometimes more. Some nights he'll have a long 6 hour stint between feeds, which is great for me to catch up on some sleep, and other nights he'll feed 3 to 4 hourly. I'm getting use to the lack of sleep now and seem to cope ok during the day. If DS1 didn't wake so early (5.30am) then I'd be much better.

I'll catch up with you all over the next week.

awww yayyy!! what time of the day was Eden born?? summah arrived at 8pm...

u poor thing, sounds like u copped it bad with the mastitis

Today is Day 11 without poo. thinking it might be time to fashion some sort of protective armour.

We're getting into a bit of a routine - well, she's more predictable - and day sleeps have been improving, especially since I stopped listening to my mum, who misread every cue as "tired" only then made faces at her while I was trying to get her to sleep. Frustrating!

crumpet - if you went up a teat and theres no issues, I would say stick with it. It's not like you can never change back.

11 days f no poo is bound to be explosive hun!!

we are the same im finding Summah is a lot more predictable with her feeding times and amounts as well....

thanks hun, seems ok. and thats true i can always swap back if we need to

Hey all,

Just dropping by to say hello and hope you're all doing well. I'm not coping very well at the moment. Long story but Jacob still doesn't sleep beyond 30 mins and it takes ages to get him to sleep. Busy as trying to keep up with creams for my nipples, drops for his throat, sterilising of dummies (scrubbing with salt and boiling). DH and I are fighting like crazy, he just doesn't help me with Jacob whatsoever, and is very limited in what he does around the house, he's more interested in going to the gym or playing on the laptop. Last night I cried for hours, spoke to my mum on the phone as DH was at work. Tried to talk to him when he got home and he picked a fight and went to bed. It's all a very long story I won't bore you with but needless to say, the whole thing is a mess and I just dont' know what to do. If I hadn't had a c-section I would drive up north to my family who's offered to help me if I want to go up. I asked DH if he would drive me and he said no. Anyway, hope you're all doing better than me, the unshowered mess that I am at the moment.

's i hope everything settles down asap for you.

Crumpet, if that's working then it's working

i think its working.....

Crumpet - Charlie is 3 weeks today and he is stiil on a slow flow teat. It takes him 30 mins some feeds and 20 mins other feeds. I gave him a med flow the other day and it came out tooo fast for him and he started to cough and carry on so his back on the slow flow teats. His drinking between 130 - 150mls. Because he sleeps all night 10.30pm to 6.00am I feed him 3 hourly during the day. He brings up his wind really well both ways.

Cathie

charlie is taking a little bit more than summah she is doing 100-120mls every 4-5 hrs.....
god id kill for her to sleep that well at night!! thats awsome!!

AFU: all is going well this end.
ive kept up with the new teats and she seems to be handling them well, has a little chuck here and there, but she did that anyway. and she seems to be drinking more, whether thats coz its easier for her and she isnt getting tired from sucking so hard or if she is increasing her amounts in general im not sure but we will stixk with them and see how we go over the next few days.

had a bit of a issue with DH and his version of night duty on saturday night, which turned into a arguement at 3am but we are under control again so hopefully his night shift this saturday is less eventful!

[Kazbah]

hi ladies,

you've all been doing so much!!!

Cathie - it's great when it just "clicks" for the kids with TTing isn't it! Enjoy the movie And yay on showers with Charlie & his daddy

Jules - that rocks, the shushing! Good on you, I'm glad it's working!!!!!!! Having a chat with your DH, glad it worked somewhat, I hope he does take advantage of the helpline, but men are usually so stubborn!!!!

Crumpet - yay on teat working for you And boohoo to DH and night duty - it's so hard to just leave your partner to parent in their own way isn't it.

Audax - have you had your poosposion yet? Not sure if this counts as a poosplosion, but I'll be changing Will's nappy and he starts grunting and then the poo starts coming out, and coming and coming and coming .... he'll do that 1-2 times a day, and if I'm unlucky enough to be changing him at the time ... well, I've "caught" 4-5 of them so far, today DH got one!!!! hehehe

MadB - hope M stayed settled for you today ... we've had a day of snacking and snoozing and crying here. Finally saw him do a tiny yawn, wrapped him and put him down immediately and he is currently asleep!!! Although he's due to wake and feed soon

Georgi - how are you going? You poor thing, that sounds like a nasty dose of mastisis Good on your DH for picking up the slack though. It's a good thing doctors still make house calls though.

AFM - well, my Fenugreek dose is now up to 12 tabs / day and my farts are totally horrid!!!!!! Pip is being a total twit, he's giving tackle-hugs to everyone, and it's so tiring keeping him away from the baby. And he's been pulling my hair (which is in 2 plaits today) and hitting the cat. I was going to do more craft with him today (found a website devoted to toilet roll craft!!!) but DH has cancelled that due to bad behaviour And I've confiscated Hedwig. Have to get downstairs somehow and do a few loads of washing. Will is doing well, he's co-sleeping with me every morning from about 4-5am, I think I'll get one of those thingys to put in the bed to keep him safe. Starting to get a smile or 2 here.

Be well all, good naps to you and your bubs

[luna moth]

So, baby is having her second sleep of the day in her cot (after two short ones in my arms) and I don't know what to do with myself! Dinner is on, bed made, dishes done, one load of laundry done (raining so can't do more) had three HOT cups of tea and I'm considering vacuuming! This is brilliant! What I've been doing is wrapping her when she seems tired, rocking her, and then letting her fall asleep in my arms. Once she is completely floppy, I pop her in the cot, and then have another muslin over her, and I tuck it in really firmly, so she's super secure. Today it works - yesterday I didn't dare try, she was having a shocker.

No poosplosion yet, but she seems pretty happy to hang on to it.

Jules - glad you have found a sleep ritual. I hope that just by having that talk with your DH that he can be a little more supportive.

Kaz - yay for the smiles! We ditched our co-sleeper bed after a week. I found it was just giving me a really sore back when I lifted her out to feed and then was trying to get comfy next to it. Good for the first couple of nights, then not really worth it for us. I would give you ours if I lived closer!

crumpet - hear you on the night duty! On the weekend I asked DH to settle Noodle off to sleep, handed her to him, all bundled up and ready to go, he just had to rock her, and I went off for a desperately needed loo break, came back, and he has her sitting up, saying she's not tired! Lies! He just wasn't trying hard enough - sometimes I feel like saying to him, when he sits on the couch with her and can't settle her down "If it were as easy as sitting on the couch, I wouldn't complain that it's hard, would I?" But he is generally very good with her.

Myboys - hope you've had some better times with your little lady. It's so awful when they're inconsolable. It makes me cry as much as her!

marceyB - I think poo will solve all our problems too!

[*EJ*]

Hi ladies,

Jules speaking of the floods, today doesn't look like a good day at all. Such devistation!!?? I hope all of us ladies are safe and well. I've been watching the Today show this morning and a couple of times they've mentioned a midwife contacting them who is aware of a lady out in rural Toowoomba (sp sorry) that is due to give birth any day and is totally isolated and they have not been able to contact her. I hope her and bub are ok. I remember watching the Black Saturday fires heavily pregnant with Charlie boy and now watching these floods, my gosh nature can be so cruel.

How is everyone?? My mum is back here now and the boys are out helping her clean out her caravan and i'm cleaning bathrooms. Harper is sleeping. We had another horrible evening last night and what worked to finally settler her on Sunday night wasn't working last night at all. Do any of you have tips that actually work to calm the witching hour or do you think it just has to run it's course each night??? I spoke to the MCHN about it and she assures me it is normal (her and I are confident she's not doing it to the extent of a baby with colic) and she says that that terrible isconsolable cry isn't causing any harm as long as i'm there with her. Same as when she's in the car because that kills me that i'm not holding her but we constantly talk to her and tell her it's ok so again the nurse says she'll know i'm there and it's just her not being able to calm herself.

So lets hope this is a phase that they out grow quickly.

Better get back to the cleaning. I'll be back soon ladies xox

[Jules84]

Crumpet - Thank you. Glad to hear all is going well with the new teats. I understand what you mean by when DH does things differently, it can be so frustrating cause we are the ones that are with them ALL the time and we know what they do and don't like. If only they would listen to us so our little ones got the same thing every time it comes time to settling...

Kaz - Great news on the smiles!! It makes the screaming matches so much more bareable doesn't it? Sorry to hear Pip isn't on his best behaviour, I'm sure he'll get past it soon and you can get onto your craft activities together - that sounds like so much fun!! a whole site dedicated to toilet paper roll craft...wow. That's impressive. It's nice you can still put the time into Pip and do these things together, I'm sure he appreciates his special time with his mum

Audux - Hanging out for your poopoo explosion story, it's bound to be epic!! My DH does the same with Jacob - sits on the couch and wonders why he gets more and more cranky...uhhhh do you ever see ME on the couch with him? nope, I'm rocking, walking, pacing, patting, talking, singing men.

Myboys - Isn't this weather just crazy...when I saw the footage on ninemsn yesterday afternoon I immediately called my cousin - her and her husband have just moved in to a new home and they have a little boy that is seven months old. I couldn't get through so sent a text, she told me they had water in the house and lots of damage but they were all safe. At the end of the day we just have to be grateful that they are safe as material things can be replaced. Gosh I hope that woman who's due to give birth is ok, if you hear any more about it please let us know! That's nice your mum made it, hopefully she can help you out and lighten the load for you a little!! As for the witching hour, Jacobs changes every day but I don't know that I'd call it a witching hour, he has actually stopped screaming and only really cries to let me know that he either needs a burp, nappy change, feed or that he's tired. Here is a website I had recommended and I found it really helpful: (if the link doesn't work let me know!) it's a SA website but it has so much research on there and different ideas that I found so useful (a lot of it you will know as you're not a first timer!!). What I do with Jacob now is what I listed in my last post. It works most times, sometimes it takes longer than others, depending how tired he is. But I find if he's gone into a screaming session he often doesn't want to be held, he's telling me he wants his own space so I pop him in the basinette and play the "shush" on the laptop and place my hand gently on his chest so he knows I'm there and talk to him calmly, telling him that I love him and I won't leave him till he's asleep and when he wakes up I'll be right here for him. He generally starts to calm down and begins to nod off. Every baby is SO different and even with Jacob it doesn't always work every day but for the most part it's what's saving my sanity. I'm actually happy to report that he has stopped feeding 1.5 hourly and is going between 2-4!!! Last night he was up between 10-2 and I tried to settle him, he would settle then wake, but he wasn't inconsolable which was lucky. When I finally got him back down - with a lot of patience and two extra feeds - he slept for THREE solid hours, I feel like a new woman!! Lets hope this is the start of something good (I can dream right?) You'll find something that works, Harper knows you love her and that you're there for her, so don't doubt that you're doing everything you possibly can. You're doing a wonderful job

I second Myboys thoughts - hope that all you ladies are safe and sound and not in the flood affected areas. Take care xoxo

[Jules84]

I had internet connection problems and it's posted twice, I have no idea how to delete the second one. Sorry! If anyone knows how please let me know!!