Babies Born December 1st ~ 15th 2008

vaccinations done

ktt3n - Matisse is so cute, if aimee did that she'd get a furball lol. I give panadol before vaccinations too. I have had a booster for whooping cough as well to try and protect the girls especially until aimee is fully covered, I got it as a kid despite having the reccomended vaccinations, its not the most effective one and it was horrible constantly coughing

I love my mei tai I am too unco to use my ring sling plus aimee prefers to be upright. I have been using it since she was 1.5 weeks old, its a baby hawk. How do you find the hab? It looks a bit too complicated and time demanding for me lol. Aimee slept in the baby hawk for 2hrs while I shopped yesterday at the target baby sale

Claire - All the best with the meds for reflux. You are so good trying the dairy free diet!! Good luck, your a great mum. Its amazing what we will do for our beautiful little babies

Sara - Wow Aimee sounds like a mover. How long did it take her to move that far??

Laura - you poor thing with the fires!! It must be so scary. Well i really hope they leave you alone!! Try and get some rest - if possible.

Must go, but be back for more personals later

Kitten - lol that's so cute, Elise does the same, wriggles and squirms til she is right next to me in bed, she'd get a furball too if she tried to do it to DH.
I've got a peanut shell just for around the house which has come in handy heaps of times but I think Elise is getting a bit long for it in the lying down position, she looks all squashed up in there now, she doesn't mind though so will keep at it when I need it.

Sararose - hopefully Aimee won't be too unsettled for you today/night, Abby used to sleep for a good 24hrs after getting hers done. Did you get them all in one go? I got Abby's a week apart I am thinking I might do the same for Elise.

Claire I hope the Losec works and helps your little girl, so hard when they are in pain and you can't do anything to help them.

laura - so happy the fires missed you, must h ave been so scary especially if your DH couldn't get home, would have freaked me out and YAY on being able to eat at your dinner party lol, amazing what excites us with a newborn lol, I'm happy if I can pee alone :)

Skye I hope your little one is sleeping a bit more for you.

Well I would like it if Miss Elise would settle before midnight, starting to do my head in, she seems to have an awake period from about 7pm til midnight 1 am, most of the time she is content to have a cuddle but then starts to get over tired and really grumpy. Last night took me from 10pm til midnight to get her to sleep. One minute she wanted a cuddle then she wanted to be put down, 10 mins later just when she looked like dropping off she wants to be cuddled again, poor thing doesn't know what she wants when she gets like that, I try to get her to sleep before she gets too overtired but not working atm, I can see it improving as she will in the end, self settle and nod off on her own, just with me watching her from my bed, just takes time I guess, I start to get a bit grumpy after 10pm with the whinging, DH does help me though which is really nice to have that support.

Once she does drop off about midnight she will sleep til about 6am though, so no complaints there what so ever, then has a feed and will sleep til about 9-930, so that is allll good, just getting her to sleep which is the troubles. Could be worse though!!

Hello everyone. I just managed to pick myself off the floor and stop having my laughing fit!! My god Kitten that nearly killed me about your DHs nipple! hahaha! DH wanted to know what the hell I was laughing at!

ll80- Mia does that sometimes too! Stays up late then sleeps for a while. Last night though she was asleep by 6.30pm, woke at 1am, then at 8am.....was great but I didnt go to bed til 12! I am silly!But i understand your frustration, some nights she wont sleep until 12 or 1am!

Sara- how did the needles go? The next day after the needles Mia was GREAT, she slept the whole day!! Haha I took Mia to the Target baby sale yesterday too, in the baby bjorn. She slept the whole time too. I bought one of those toy aquariums for the cot, but the remote doesnt work, so now I need to take it back.

Had a great night and day today, she seems to be making up for her sleeplessness. Thats the thing Ive learnt, if she has a bad day or two, then there should be a good day coming!
Just got a letter today saying Mothers group starts next weds, SO NERVOUS. Im not good with big groups!

kitt3n -:ROFL: that's is absolutely hilarious!! matisse is a clever little lass...wrong nipple but right idea!!! i bought myself a karma sling cos i also thought it would be easier to just pop ochre in while i did things around the house but he really didn't like the position - he likes to be upright (like in his Beco butterfly) and i found my shoulder started hurting after only a short period so i returned it. shame tho as they are soo much easier to use than a carrier.

sararose - the baby hawks are gorgeous - i almost bought one. it's roughly the same as the beco but mine has buckle clips instead of ties.

ll80 - thanks hon yeah fires are very harrowing...our town has really bad luck with them. oh a 6 hour block of sleep would be just divine - i can't remember when i had that last! why are boys such horrible little sleepers??

skye - i know how u feel. 8 years ago when i went to my very first one i was soo nervous as well. i was pretty shy and introverted back then - motherhood has made me a lot more confident and outgoing. i still catch up with those mums and most of their kids go to school with DS1.

anthea - thanks hon - feeling much better now that it's out. ;)

Hi there Ladies

It seems like forever since I've had the chance to pop on.

Sorry I won't do personals I just wouldn't know where to start :doh:

It's been pretty hectic here - gorgeous Zahlia hates sleep and has her most unsettled time of the day at 4am!! she likes to grunt whilst doing so.

We have her now on formula full time - she is on Novolac for Constipation as she has major issues doing her no.2's and this is the only stuff that seems to be working (knock on wood) there's been a lot of trial and error in between though and I'm still not sure if she doesn't have painful reflux - we've had to give her Mylanta a couple of times and this seems to relax her - however I'm going to watch her and see how she progresses.

She is growing at a rapid rate - we're in the 5kg mark already and the chubber rolls have taken over - she is just gorgeous - but then again I'm a little biased.

Her day sleeps are all over the place and unfortunately there is no set routine - i dare say that has more to do with DS constantly trying to stimulate her however I'm kind of ok with it as long as she is happy to play - sometimes he just loves her a little too much - iykwim - I've since bit the bullet and enrolled him into day care 1 day a week so that Z and I can catch up on sleep and maybe establish some sort of routine - wishful thinking but I've got to hold onto some glimmer of hope - lol

as far as DTD - not a chance to even think about it - DH and I haven't shared a bed since coming home from the hospital - DS is shocking sleeper and DD is a noisey sleeper - right now we're thinking about pitching a tent in the backyard so that we can run away from them both - Note to self next life I'm going to marry a good sleeper - DH suffers from insomnia and looks like it has rubbed off on both the kids - not good for me as I need 8 hours to function :rolleyes:

I'm off to have vaccinations done next week - the day before DS starts daycare and the week before we go to sleep school - I booked in early this time - I need some tips on how to make them all sleep at the same time - lol - otherwise all is OK - no use complaining I keep telling myself this time in our lives will be behind us soon enough and then I'll have teenagers to whinge about.

It's good to see that all the other bubbas are doing so well and reassuring to hear that I'm not the only one having shocking days.

I promise to try and pop in more often

talk soon

Hi everyone

The lovely AF decided to visit me today...yay! not. I for the life of me couldnt find any tampons....I remember them lying around everywhere before...but of course now I cant find ANY!

Littlelalla- thats what Im hoping will happen to me! Might become a bit more confident down the line...

Dianna- Sorry to hear that Zahlia's most unsettled time is at 4am- doh! Mia is still doing her naughty tricks...wakes at around 3 then WONT go back to sleep!!
Last night I put her back down at 4 but she just screamed, so i got DH to get up and help. His solution?? Bring her into bed with us!! I was so mad, i dont want her getting into that habit....but guess what? From 4-8am we all had the most blissful sleep and it was sooo nice to wake up all as a family!! I still dont like co sleeping though for some reason....even if I do admit it is reallllllyyyyy nice to snuggle together. I just hear horror stories of kids still in with their parents at 3 and the parents struggling to get them into their own beds!

Sorry for the waffle on. lol.

Dianna thats great about daycare, sounds like your DS will benefit as well as you and Zahlia. I bet he just loves it!

Hi mummys,
Hope all your weekends are going well! Well I don't know what Ochre is going through atm but the sleeping is getting worse not better. Last several nights he's been wanting boob every 2.5 to 3 hours. Last night for example he slept from 8 to 12 (great but not when i didnt get to bed til after that 12 feed) then woke at 2.45 had a feed - didn't settle til 4 then was up again at 6.30 for a feed - back to sleep at 7ish and up again at 9 for a feed. I know he's getting plenty of milk as he almost empties both boobs and they are pretty full atm. Could it be another growth spurt?? Do they have them at 8 weeks?? I've tried getting him back to sleep for a bit longer with his dummy but he just spits it out and continues to cry. I will just have to roll with it for now and hope he gets back to doing more reasonable sleep blocks. Also, does anyones babies smile and coo and laugh at things that aren't even there?? Ochre does it a lot when he's looking at something to the sides of us...what do they see i wonder!?!?! :think: And one more thing - O has been pooing every second or third day - and when he does it's HUGE. Everytime he does one i have to get to the change table quick smart or before it starts oozing out of his nappy! Its like caramel custard!!

Dianna - o is a major grunter and we used to lay in bed listening to it all night when he used to sleep on his back and since putting him to sleep on his belly he no longer grunts! yeah my Dh has certainly passed on his 'light sleeping' gene to the boys. arrgh!!

skye - oh bummer about the AF! i hear u on the co - sleeping but for me at the moment it's the only way to get slightly more hours of sleep in the night. he just seems to settle quicker in bed than in his cot - cheeky hehe!!

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I just hear horror stories of kids still in with their parents at 3 and the parents struggling to get them into their own beds!

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co sleeping baby or not, this will still happen!!

Very true Kitten, very true!

Littlelalla- as you know I had a shocker last week with Mia....and she was 8 weeks! I reckon its something they go through.I think you do just have to go with it, and I bet he improves in a couple of days!
For the last few days though Mia has been a dream baby! I hope it lasts!
Last night she was asleep at about 6, woke for a feed at 9.30pm, back asleep at 10.30- slept til 5am!! Then she came into bed with us, and we slept til 8am, feed, then back to sleep til 11.30am! Nice.

Thats weird that O is looking at something that isnt even there....hmmm do you have ghosts in your house?? Just kidding! Sorry lol. I just think they see things like reflections and shadows maybe.

Speaking of poos, I hearyou on that also. Mia just did a disgusting one, went absolutely everywhere, needed DHs help to clean it! She wore herself out doing it though, shes back asleep now lol.

Hope everyone is well and getting some sleep!

Went to the wedding on saturday and it was lovely. Aimee was so good at the gardens before the ceremony but just as the bride arrived she started crying so Tony took her for a little walk so I could watch the ceremony without distubing everyone. She decided to have crazy night of feeding every 1/2hr from 6-11pm which was tricky but we still had a great time.

Littlelala- lol on ochre looking at something that is not there dd1 did that all the time tony half jokingly reckoned she was seeing his nana who had passed away
Diana- goodluck with sleep school, I am so happy I kept Jasmine in cc as I get a day to play with Aimee and get things done including the shopping and Jasmine loves the company and change of scenery at cc
Skye - glad mia has been sleeping well for you, I think you can handle anything if you have a decent nights sleep
we are also changing to a poo every 2nd day and it is explosive lol. I have started the couch to 5k challenge and my legs are a bit sore today but I was so happy I did it as I have never really run in mu life, just going to be tricky to fit it in and spend time as a family
take care everyone

sararose - funny you should mention that about dh's nana - a psychic friend came to see us the day ochre was born and she said my poppa who passed away when i was 6 months pregnant was in the hospital room with us!! wow on the running!! u go girl!! hope you had a lovely birthday :)

skye - we had much better night last night so maybe u were right! he slept from 9 to 1 then 2 to 6. i just have to get myself to bed early too!

i'm back on antibiotics again :cry:. i tried so hard to kick this mastitis without resorting to them but the soreness just wont go away and i dont want to take any chances especially since i felt so horrible with aches and chills the other day. it's really bummed me out since i only finished the last lot merely 2 weeks ago. on a happier note lil ochre is self settling at every nap now :dance:. he actually gets grumpy if he's tired and we don't put him in his cot!! i pointed this out to dh today when he was whinging on his lap and so he popped in his cot and he made little satisfied grunts and fell promptly to sleep...what a gem!!! xx

oh that's lovely Laura, what a good little boy!!!
I think Elise is on her way as well with the self settling, it's so nice when she does, other times she is a velcro baby, won't let me put her down.

Well my naked rain dance kept the IL's away for a couple days with road closures due to rain, but they are here now. Not as bad as i though it would be but it's only day 2. The BEST news however is that MIL is NOT coming down *does a happy dance*

Elise has the worst heat rash at the moment, I'm not sure what to do about it, I don't think there is much I can do in this weather, her face neck and upper chest is all red and pimply. I don't think it's bothering her too much, she is pretty much living in singlets and nappies to get as much air flow as possible and not get too hot, and bathing when it's really sticky.
I don't think there is much use putting creams and such on there as it flares up again as soon as it gets hot.

I am still trying to flog off my princess Abby, school starts on Tuesday YAY!!! brought her uniform today and am now broke lol, she also needed to get glasses as it turns out she is long sighted, lucky I decided to check her eyes before she started school, she's been pestering me all week about them, she finally gets them has them on an hour now she is pestering me to let her take them off for the rest of the day, bloody kids. Cost a small fortune so I hope they last, I'll make her wear them even if it kills me ;)

Sara- glad you had a great time at the wedding, sounds lovely. Glad Aimee was a good girl. Thats good Tony took her out, there was a baby crying at our wedding while we were saying our vows, I was annoyed when I watched the dvd.

littlelala- glad you had a good night, how was last night? Sorry to hear you have mastitis again :( how awful, I hope it isnt too sore for you. How is the chicken pox going? All healed? Go Ochre with the self settling! I wish!!



ll80- sounds like heat rash, as you said I dont think you can do much about it. Poor little thing. Yay for Abby starting school!

As for me, Mia is currently in her bassinett whinging, she wont self settle, but Im sick of rocking her to sleep every time. So Im going in and just patting her now, then leaving. Ah, better go, shes screaming now.

laura you poor thing I hope this is the last lot of mastitis for you, i wouldn't wish it on anyone. Sounds like o is doing well

ll80 glad you managed to keep your inlaws at bay, hope the glasses are child proof, they are so expensive

skye - hope mia settled for you, she hust wants her mummy (mummy probably wants a break lol)

Aimee self settles 50% of the time and I like the cuddles the other 50% lol. 2 weeks of sleeping 10pm til 5am or later with only one night wher she woke inbetween :D. and a 3 1/2hr day nap between 11-2:30 I think we are getting a routine, I thought it would take longer. Our photos are up now on www appleseed com au if you go into client access our password is rocky. I am really happy with them considering how painful Jasmine was

ll80 - yaay school!! hehe DS1 is back next week too. he really needs the stimulation - it's been hard to do anything these holidays so the sooner he goes back the better off he will be!

sararose - OMG those pics are absolutely GORGEOUS!!! makes me want to fly to Adelaide right now and get some done :) We are heading over in March - maybe I'll should book it in. Do you get all those pics hon? Or do you choose your faves?
How would you choose -they are all amazing! :D

Skye - the pox is all gone thank god! Ochre has one little red spot on his face - u can see it on his latest pics on facebook - but the redness is already fading. ;)

We are having a terrible time with this second bout of mastitis. the antis are giving O soo much wind so we've gone from great 4 hour block sleeps in the night to 2.5 because it's waking him up. And then he thinks he needs booby so he is only having little snacks and my boobs are very engorged. it's such a vicious cycle....he gets so upset in the middle of the feed because of painful wind and then pulls off and wont get back on again so i'm left with so much milk still. arghh!! the guilt to keep feeding is huge as well as i fed the other boys for so long and put up with it. i guess sleep deprivation and 2 other children to care for are making things harder this time round. :(

hey everyone i havent been in here for a while!

oh lil l - you poor thing, its hard enough to take care of the little ones as it is, let alone when you are not well yourself, giving cuddles must really hurt?

sararaose - i cant figure out how to look at your pics, where do you click?

skye - have you considered a sling at all? I ahve matisse in her hug a bub when she wants cuddles and i need to get stuff done, other than that she happily drifts off wherever she is (during the day, evening is a different story!!) she sleeps on the lounge, in her cot, on our bed, in her bassinette... but if cuddles are wanted, there is no escape (and i love it!). today i vacuumed, mopped, dusted and ceaned the glass, all while she was happily in her sling, she fell asleep whil i vacuumed (must have been the ocking back and forward)

ll80 - woot woot on the inlaws! mine are driving me nuts :o try some moo goo on the rash, gets rid of it on matisse

as for us - i didnt have the proper 1-4 week check - my midwife just did it at home. So we are going to make plans to see the nurse soon, oh i miss my midwife!

breastfeeding is going great - sleeping is great - our only troubles are the "witching hour" as i have been told its called. lil m just doenst settle between 7-10 (is) pm, the only time daddy gets with her. during the day - OH! you should see the smiles, its amazing!

finally her little belly button is almost healed **phew** i tought that would never happen

still has the thrush in her mouth - much mch less than the beginning but its still there, i doubt we will get rid of it until summer is over.

better get my butt into gear and load some pics on FB.....

oops its Amiee & Jasmine

19 and 24 are my faves! and you got the topless daddy/naked baby pics, black and white! i am so jealous!!!

beautiful, just beautiful hun!

Sara- GORGEOUS! Absolutely stunning. I wish we could afforf to get professional pics done. I wish I was a photographer...lol.

Kitten- sounds like you are all doing really well, thats great to hear!!

littlelalla- sorry to hear about the mastitis,and Ochres sore tummy. Do what is best for you, putting Mia on Formula was the best for us, and its working really well. ;)

Last night she was up twice which is usual for her,she usually only wakes once. But then she had a good morning sleep so i got stuff done. I feel like things are settling down here now thankfully...until teething starts..lol

Morning ladies,
just popping in quickly. hope u all have a great long weekend. it's Tunarama time here in Lincoln and i'm taking the kids to the street parade at lunch. my second ds had gastro yesterday so fingers crossed noone else in our family comes down with it. we saw some light at the end of the tunnel last night with a fantastic sleep from Ochre - his best yet! He went from 8 to 7am with a feed at 2am. he's never done a 6 hour block before so i was pretty excited! i gave him 2 doses of brauers colic relief half hour apart and i think that made a world of difference. he went back to sleep at 7.30 and is still asleep now :D

kitt3n - it has been hard to burp or walk around with him against my boobs - but they are feeling much better now though. aren't the moogoo products great! i use the shampoo, udder cream and milk wash on all my boys. i've noticed that ochre hasn't developed any cradle cap yet whereas the other boys had it bad.

skye - i think i'll reassess the situation if i get another bout straight away cos i just cant keep feeding me and him antibiotics. just curious - what formula and bottles do you use?

Hey there Ladies

Just popping in to say hi

Sararose - your pics are just amazing - can I ask how much you paid - I have no idea what something like that is worth and I'm very interested in getting some pics done here also - PM me if you like or send me an email on FB if you don't want the world to know how much you paid - either way they are just fantastic, gorgeous pics

LL - so glad that mastitis has settled down a bit - this is a major part of the reason why I had to stop BF - I copped it 3 times in 6 weeks and 3 lots of AB's - we're now fulltime FF - we use Novalac but I would highly recommend NAN HA Gold - this is a little to strong for DD tummy for the moment - but I think we'll move her back to it in a couple of weeks - I used it on DS and never looked back - it's the highest recommended formula around - there is also another one called "Bellamy's Organic" - or something along those lines - its an organic formula and you can pick it up in Woolies - well here in Sydney you can - we use Tommee Tippee closer to Nature bottles and they are great - meant to reduce colic and have the same feel as a nipple - apparently - Z loves them - I actually went out and bought another 2 bottles yesterday - either way goodluck - don't have guilt I know what it's like to have other children (including husbands) to look after - maybe you could look at expressing and doing a few bottle feeds - this was DH can help....might be worth the effort and give your boobs a chance to recover

Otherwise all is OK here - I'm having some issues with Anxiety atm and just been up to the health food store to get a stack of vitamins - I'm taking a herbal anti-depressant - I;ve had this before and had great success - when I have a panic attack it effects my eyes so I'm hoping that I can get some relief - I just feel like I'm walking around with a fuzzy head and can't think straight and my eyes are all blurry and distorted and my patience is zero - especially with DS - I'm praying and hoping I can get on top of it all - I'm just buggered - I don't actually feel depressed though just can't seem to focus on anything - anyone else feel like this?? I think its the hormones leaving my system - i got AF back with a venegance this week so feel blah and the heat isn't helping either - OK enough whining.

Off to sleep school on Friday - I kind of feel like not going as we have actually overcome some of the sleep issues but I don't want to tempt fate and have issues next week - iykwim - oh well may as well go - its not costing me anything it's run through the hospital.

Hey Skye - does your hospital do anything like this?? I know you've been having some sleep issues with Mia - I went with BJ when he was 10 weeks old and got a heap of pointers that were really useful - maybe you Clinic nurse can help you - just a thought....

Hi dianna I don't mind, it is reasonably expensive but we put some of the baby bonus aside for the photos. the photo session cost $250 and 100 of that is credit towards photos, we are getting 11 of the photos for $595 :shhh: so in total bout $750. She was at the house for over 4hrs. We got them done with Jasmine too and I am so glad we did but it is pretty hefty costwise.

My mum and dad will probably buy 1 or 2 each and we will scan them and swap them around (not very legal but I figure we are paying a decent price lol)

Dianna hope the vitamins help with the anxiety, I get exhausted too sometimes and poor jasmine cops it, sleep does help I hope you get some soon

Girls with reccurent mastitis I can understand giving up bf, if I got it again I would seriously consider giving it up, it can be so debilatating

hi everyone
We had a great night last night, Mia only woke once, for 20 mins! She slept from about 9pm- 7.30am. Must have been a fluke though, not expecting it to happen again tonight. I did get a decent sleep, so why am I so damn tired now?? Maybe its all catching up with me.
We went on a picnic today and lasted about 10 mins...Mia HATED the wind and the sun, poor little thing so we just left.

Sara- wow expensive! But oh so worth it I reckon!

Dianna- sometimes I feel like that too and my vision does the same thing for some reason! And I start to panic. But for me it doesnt last long...I think it has something to do with hormones and lack of sleep! What are the vitamins that help?

Littlelalla- Im with Dianna- Mia is on Nan gold. Never had any issues with them, Mia had a bit of gas when she first went on it, but now shes fine. Bottles, we use avent, and we also have Tommy Tipee, but I dont like those. The teat is too soft and it keeps folding over and leaking everywhere....I love avent....:)

Sararose - the pics aren't cheap but I have to kind of think that it is money well spent - they're only this little for such a short period of time - for me I'm very tempted especially given that Z will be my last baby - my family is Complete - I don't think I could manage another pregnancy and we only ever wanted 2 kids regardless of sex - so I think having a keep sake like this would be amazing - having said that I've taken some pretty good pics lately - the random 1 or 2 that have been a fluke -and it's amazing what a B&W pic can do - but no where near as gorgeous as your pics though.

Skye - I take this stuff called SAME for the anxiety along with a B Executive and Rescue Remedy for when I have a moment of despair - my panic attacks don't last long either but just enough to make me take a step back - iykwim - kind of have to take a deep breath in - i hate that stomach dropping feeling - I've also heard that Omega 3 is meant to do wonders - but I'm going to start on these and see how I go - I'm not too good with Fish Oil but will take it if I have too - my mum has no problems with it though - I think its just a matter of finding the right one - plus I hear you on the constant tiredness - its just like I can't catch up even with a full nights sleep I feel all out of whack

Hi All

I have now tried to write a hello about 3 times - each time I have lost my entry (PC crashed, forums crashed or firefox crashed) so here I try again!

How about this bloody heat! I was almost in tears yesterday with it after putting up with it all week. I would murder for air con about now!

Maya is doing ok with sleeps. She normally gets to sleep around 10.30 and sleeps till at least 5.30. Lately in the mornings she has been only sleeping in 2 hours stretch which kills me as I am trying to sleep but the last 2 days she has slept till 6.30 and then 10am which is great (although it may be because DH is home and she wants to behave for him!)

Maya has started smiling and coo-ing alot now which warms my heart. She loves getting her nappy change and often talks to me while it happens. She gave me a big smile yesterday as she woke from her nap :) Its also very cool hearing her goo and coo in her cot in the morning. Makes a nice change from the crying.

She also rolled over in her cot the other day! I placed her on her tummy whilst I got her bottle ready and when I came back she was on her back resting on the bars of the cot. Might of been a one off since she hasn't done it since. She had such a look of shock on her face hehe

Maya is on Nan gold. It was what the hospital gave her. She seems to like it. We are also using Tommie Tippee bottles as I like the anti-colic and boob like teat. Although I do agree its a very soft teat and can be a bugger to get it in her mouth sometimes. My parents have such an issue using them as they don't check she has latched on correctly and Maya ends up getting a massive milk beard lol

Still waiting on AF - I actually wish I would get it soon so I can get back on the pill. Makes me nervous using condoms.

Sararose - I love those photos! Money well spent imo. They certainly get you with the additional cost of each print tho. I would love to get something done similar but might wait until Maya is more smiley.

Hi Ladies,

Sararose what a gorgeous family you have! The pics are amazing and something you'll cherise forever.

DiannaQ and Skye I hope the panic attacks ease up for you both. Dianna I really don't know how you do it with a toddler and a baby - one baby is hard enough for me! Hope the vitamins help.

Mel - I can't believe Maya rolled! What a shame you missed it but I'm sure she'll do it again.

Littlelalla I hope ochre is sleeping better for you hun. Also hope your mastitis clears up for you once and for all. You poor thing, I keep praying it doesn't happen to me.

ll80 - hooray on Elise self settling - I really have to start making an effort to get Belle to self settle soon or it may be too late!

Kitt3n - Belle and I now have thrush too! It sounds like everyone has had a bout now. I'm hoping it clears soon - we're using Daktarin gel.

Well Belle seems to be a bit more settled (touch wood!). The Losec never did anything so I gave that the flick a couple of days ago. I actually think she was pulling off screaming due to my fast flow rather than reflux. I now express a little before each feed, but my milk flows so fast even when my boob is almost empty! I've tried leaning back but she hates that position. Any advice you BF mum's can give?

Also Belle's developed a bit of a flat head. We alway put her down with her head to the side but she's always moved it back from day one. We give her plenty of tummy time when she's awake but I don't know what else we can do. Has anyone's else bubs got a bit of a flat head? Will they round out again? I'm thinking maybe I should move her out of her amby hammock and into her cot which might make her keep her head to the side more. It's a shame though as she really loves the hammock.

Anthea - when u do decide to pop her in the cot maybe consider a great little pillow that babies sleep on called 'Love Nest Pillow' (i saw it on sale online at Infant Boutique) which stops the flat head from occuring. Ochre is a belly sleeper so we don't have to worry about that. with your fast flow does it just happen at the beginning or all the way through? maybe get belle to latch on and suck enough to start the let down then take her off and hold a breast pad or tissue to the breast to catch a little of the milk that comes out really quickly at first then re-attach her once the fast flow has settled down. have u tried getting her to feed while she is sitting up or laying down a bit and laying her down on your breast?

Will pop back later for more personals - really got to mop the floors now and get to bed early tonight - hubby is keen for some smooching!!! Happy Australia day to u all! :lol:

Hello - anyone out there? I think this is the quiet we have been in a long time!

Maya is doing good. I think she had a growth spurt because she was a real bugger for a few days there. She seems to get very tired at night and just screams and screams which is hard to take. We went to my nan's funeral yesterday and she was pretty good though I think she got over stimulated as was hysterically crying in the car on the way home and when we stopped to feed her. It took her about 15mins of me calming her down before she would drink. Poor little thing.

re belly sleepers - I thought you shouldn't put your baby on their tummy/sides in case of SIDS etc?

Claire_A - Is it flat on one side or at the back? If its the side we were told to change her position in the cot to the other end every now and then as the baby tends to keep their heard towards the door so swapping cot ends makes them move their head around. If its a flat spot at the back of the head...no idea. We bought that love nest pillow but haven't used it yet.

PS Oh I forgot to ask if anyone was going to start swimming lessons when their little ones hit 3 months?

mel - yeah it has gone quiet hasn't it! - everyone is too hot to type!! OMG to the rolling!!! has she done it again? re belly sleeping - i have a belly sleeper and believe me if i could change that i would but he HATES sleeping on his back. i was reading a post on here that 1/10 babies prefer to sleep on their bellies and it's usually the ones with really strong necks. makes sense as Ochre has had a very strong neck since day one. he just sleeps so much better on his belly and so for my own sanity I let him sleep that way. ochre is going thru yet another growth spurt too...i think he's on permanent growth spurts!! i've just enrolled DS 2 into swimming lessons so it's all a bit too much for me to do them with Ochre but my DH is a qualified swimming instructor so he can take him for a dip in the pool soon :D

Claire - so sorry hon i just realised i put Anthea's name down on my last post and it was meant for you!!! silly mumnesia brain!! how's the flow going?

DiannaQ - how was sleep school?

skye - did Mia repeat that awesome sleep for u? we had a shocker last night with my youngest two up all thru the night. must be this hideous heat wave we are having. :redface:

Looks like I havent missed too much!!
Had a bit of a disaster in the office, the previous owners decided it was okay to attach a wall cupboard with only 4 small screws, there are 4 overhead cupboards on the wall next to where I sit, often times with Elise on my chest while on the computer.
Needless to say sometime over a night or two ago the whole thing fell down, just missing my computer on to where I sit and smashing the poor printer.
Thank god it didn't happen during the day and that BIL is here and a cabinet maker so he was able to fix it properly with the proper screws.

Study looks like a bomb has hit it though, more so than normal hehehe.

Elise is going well, sleeping well :)porking up nicely.
She has started getting into somesort of a routine. She will sleep somewhere around 11pm til 5 or 6 am then have a feed and sleep most of the morning anywhere from when she wakes in the morning til around 10am- midday. She will then be awake most of the rest of the day, cat napping here and there feeding every 2 hours to make up for her big naps.
I am pretty happy with that routine, allows me to get to bed at a semi decent hour and I can get what I need to done in the morning then sit with her feeding through the afternoon.
I can get Abby off to school in the morning with no hassles as well.

Claire have you tried pressing on your breast a bit to stop the flow, that;s what I have been doing as I have a fast flow as well, but don't press the same spot the next feed to allow those ducts to clear.
Not sure about the flat head, Elise has such strong neck control she lifts her head up all different directions herself, I hope you find some answrs to that one!

Mel - I think ELise is going through a growth spurt as well, she is pushing 5kg and is sooooooooo long now.
Not sure when I will start swimming lessons, probably when I am not so fat and can fit into my bathers again lol.

I hope all you mummies and bubs in Melbourne and Adelaide are keeping cool, must be so horrible, I am soooooooo glad for a change not to be back in Melb.

Aimee has now started to sleep overnight from 9:30-6am, its great but I am a milk fountain come morning and still having her 4hr arvo nap great routine that she has developed all on her own. Its way to hot here to do anything, our airconditioer wasn't keeping up yesterday but isn't too bad today.

mel - belly sleeping is not part of the sids guidelines so I only let Aimee belly sleep during the day when I am poping in and out of her room.
ll80- a routin ehelps so much doesn't it?
we3 wont do swimming lessons yet, Jasmine kept getting ear infections when we started at 6 months so we stopped and so did the ear infections but she did enjoy swimming

Hi Ladies, how are you all? Well we're all sleeping in the lounge room as it's the only room in the house with air con lol. One good thing about the heat is that Belle sleeps 8 hours through the night - although I keep waking up with full sore boobs!

Thanks for the advice re the flat head. I've just bought the love nest pillow online which should arrive tomorrow. Fingers crossed it works as her head is really quite flat now at the back. It's amazing how quickly it formed - two weeks ago it wasn't there!

ll80 I have tried pressing on my breast to slow the flow, it worked once but since then not so much. I'm persisting with lying back and feeding which sometimes Belle lets me do others she won't have a bar of - very picky about her positions! Most feeds she can handle it but come the witching hour she is too hysterical and I end up walking around the dining room feeding her - it's the only way to keep her calm enough to feed lol.

ll80 - Scary about the cupboards falling - thank god noone was hurt!

Sararose - wow Aimee's a great sleeper, hope she keeps it up for you.

Littlelalla no worries re the wrong name - I swear my brain is not what it used to be either!

Mel I'm sorry to hear about your nan - I hope Maya settles a bit more for you at night.

wow, all these bubbies sleeping through- Mia's not! :doh:
She usually goes to bed at about 8.30/9pm, then is up at 1/2am, then up at 4 or 5. I tried the dreamfeed but she woke at 3.3am anyway! I hope she starts sleeping longer soon, that would be great. Now I usually rock her until her eyes get droopy, then put her in the bassinett to self settle. If she cries Ill go in and put the dummy in, and stroke her nose downwards so her eyes close!Works most times but sometimes I have to pick her up and rock her again.
Damn hot here, we have evap cooling which makes it bareable.

Claire- glad Belle is sleeping through for you, lucky thing!

Sara- glad Aimee has gotten into a good routine!

ll80- gosh how scary, that must have made a loud bang! So glad Elise is being a good little girl!

littlelalla- hope you had a better nights sleep last night, yep it makes it harderwith the heat!

Mel- sorry to hear about your nan. Mia has done similar things with the hysterical crying in the car, but as soon as that teat hits her lips she sucks it like no tommorow and stops crying lol.

Ok well Mia is finally asleep, so off to have a shower!

Hi girls, its been a bit quiet lately everyone busy with bubs now.
Aimee slept in her cot overnight for the first time last night as she is getting a bit big for her bassinett. She woke once because she had kicked off her blankets and her room was fairly cool so I covered her up and she went off to sleep again within 5minutes. tonight I'll put her in a warmer outfit so if she kicks off her wrap she wont be to cold (I hope).

Aimee has had green poo this week, really gross i am hoping its just because she is feeding more often in the heat. She is happy otherwise and still gaining weight, over 6kg now little chubba. Jasmine is feeling a bit put out now by Aimee, I was burping her yesterday and Jasmine shoved Aimee and told me to 'put Aimee down and play blocks with Jamin' (she cant say her name properly lol). i had to tell her off and explain that we dont push grr.

Hope everyone is well and coping with the heat. Yesterday we went to a friends pool for a swim and I had Aimee in the pram with a wet muslin wrap over it, everytime it dried she winged until it was wet again. With the breeze she had her own litlle evap cooler, she loved it and loved kicking the wet sheet with her feet.

take care

Hi everyone how are you and your bubs doing? Well Belle had her vaccinations yesterday - it nearly broke my heart! She'd had a shocking night the night before and had barely slept so was cranky and crying before she even got her shots - but man did she scream while she got them! Luckily my DH took her to actually have them while I sat in the waiting area with tears in my eyes as I heard my little girl crying inconsolably. Atleast it's over now (for 2 months atleast).

Skyeblue how is Mia sleeping - has it improved yet?

Sararose has Aimee adjusted to her cot well? We're thinking of transferring Belle to her cot soon too. Do you girls still wrap your babies? Belle is so long and strong that we have to double wrap her as otherwise she gets out. She can't sleep without being wrapped but I'm thinking of getting some grobags instead. Does anyone use these? Would a bub that has to be wrapped to sleep adjust to the bag well?

Awww Claire I had tears when Mia got hers done too...but after one scream after each needle she was fine thankfully. How is Belle now?
Yes I still wrap Mia, but yesterday the health nurse said to stop once she hits three months because if she rolls over she wont be able to get back and might not be able to breath?? Im not listening to that advice though, she can barely hold her head up letalone roll over!

Sara- Thats great Aimee is doing well in her cot now. I tried M in hers yesterday for a sleep and she was fine, but back to the basinett today, because it has the anglecare monitor in it.

We had a great night last night....first night EVER that Mia has slept though! yay. She went to bed at 6pm, had a feed at 10.30pm, then slept til 5am. Back in bed at 6am. It was great.
I started my diet yesterday, went out and bought scales today and nearly died, I had no idea I weigh that much! Arrghh. Oh well, no more treats for a while, and Im getting stuck into the walking.
Sara I noticed you are doing really well with your weight loss....any hints? :)

Hope everyone is well!

hi ladies,
just popping in between mopping floors and tidying up the house. we have my parents and my brother and his partner and their two boys arriving tomorrow. my eldest DS is 8 tomorrow (gosh where's that time gone?!?!) and DS no.2 is 3 on Saturday so it will be great to have them over for their party. everyones bubbies seem to be doing well....we are having some nice solid blocks of sleep - well one 5 ish hour first up then a few 3 hours but i'm taking what i can get atm! ochre has started dribbling a lot lately....could it be teeth!!! :rolleyes:

skye - i'm too scared to weigh myself - i was doing soo good just after he was born and now i've put a bit more on again....gotta control my sugar addiction!

sararose - how cute! the boys are having their party at the local indoor pool so Dh is taking Ochre for his first swim. he loves the bath so i think he will love the pool too :)

claire- how's the love nest pillow going?

ll80 - how are u coping with school drop offs in the morning? so far so good my end. because of his age i dont have to go into the classroom with DS1 so it helps to be able to just jump in the car (in pjs if i want to!) and drop him off at the front gate. it's still hectic getting breakfasts, packing lunchboxes, feeding and clothing all 3 boys in time for 8.40am!! ;)

Hi girls
Just had to pop in and share my excitement Tony proposed last night! We will be getting married on the 5th fed 2011 as the 5th feb is the first day we kissed. (and we have some time to save up for the big day lol). So we will all have the same surname one day
sb - im doing ww, going to the gym and breastfeeding, last time I left it too long and found it hard to shift the weight, have a big incentive to loose the weight now ;). Just remember it took 9months to make a baby so allow yourself at least that long to lose the weight
littlelalla- sounds like you are going to be a busy lady this week, enjoy your visitors
clair - glad belle is doing well, Aimee has settled into the cot very well, she seems to be happy in it. I hate vaccinations, I think they upset us more than the bubs

Oh Sararose congratulations - how exciting! It will be so nice to able to have your beautiful girls as part of the wedding - you'll be a gorgeous bride!

Skyeblue I'm glad Mia is sleeping well for you - it makes such a difference doesn't it?

Littlelalla I hope the birthday parties go well - it must be nice to have your family visit.

Well I've decided to buy some grobags as Belle is really wriggly in her wraps now as she can't extend her legs properly. I think we'll do the transition form wrap to grobag to cot all in one go. Fingers crossed it all goes well!