Babies Born December 2006

Way to go Maya! How exciting.Hope you get her doing it on camera Chon, wowee she has started early.

Wow, that's great! Good for her. Eugh, must ask you guys about bedtime routines... maybe tomorrow. I'm sooooo tired. Gnight.

Ahhhhh Snacks, what has happened to your sleep? Poor you! Sleepy vibes to Natalie!!!!

Well done Maya, Charly nearly did about a week ago but I didn't realise and she got her arm stuck.

But she is moving her self around her cot, not sure how yet to catch her but I will but her in asleep with head to the wall and when I check on her legs are to the wall or she is side ways and its not just her legs moving her head is in a totally different position ??? I need to set up a camera.

Just wondering Charly has gone back to not sleeping much during the day at the moments ... had about two weeks where she had a 2-4 hour sleep in the afternoon. Yesterday I tried to put her down when she looked tired and was grissally, she cried herself to sleep within 10 to 15 minutes but only sleep 30 minutes. I did the same thing about a month ago with the same results just wonder if anyone has tried it and had the same results. She wakes up so happy there is no way she is going back to sleep. Guest she is like her dad he has little cat naps when he can.

Bedtime routine around eight I try to go to her room and feed her and she usually goes to sleep. Need to look at adding the reading of a book.

All routine out the window this weekend fly to Adelaide early Saturday morning at airport by 5.30 and back on Tuesday night.

Hope everyone is doing well, Charly just woke up can hear her chatting to her mobile.

Oh, these clever babies - turning themselves around and rolling over! How fast they grow!
Ah, day sleeping... I'm no authority there, Charly's mum. In fact I need to kind of blurt things out and hopefully you can all be patient with me and let me know what you think...
Natalie is an erratic sleeper, probably because I haven't introduced any sort of bedtime 'routine'. Other than wrapping, there's no other consistent way I put her to bed in the daytime. During the day she sleeps downstairs in the portacot because its sooooo hot upstairs. Sometimes I put her in the stroller and take her for a walk to sleep (cause I want to shift some weight... also if I'm feeling tired and impatient this seems like the easiest, safest option;) ). She doesn't go to sleep until 9:30 at the earliest at night, it always ends with me feeding her to sleep, usually with a bottle of EBM, and I'm wondering if the timing's too late? Should I try to get her down earlier? I guess I just figured if she went to bed about the same time I did then I'd get the most sleep, but I'm now really worried that I'm forming 'bad habits' etc. I don't care about the inconvenience to me, cause at the moment there's none ;) but what about her? I wonder if an earlier bedtime would be better for her? Would she be a happier baby? She can be grumpy all day sometimes. She is smiley and sweet after a feed and either side of her bath (she looooves the bath) but some days she can cry pretty much the rest of the day, unless I manage to get her to sleep for any considerable length of time. So, ok, maybe she's just a cry-y baby, or maybe she's constantly tired? I don't think I can cope with crying to sleep just yet - she's so little and I love cuddles, but is that selfish of me? (You don't have to just say no to be polite, I really want to know - should I be more conscientious in getting her to learn to get herself to sleep properly?) I figured because she was sleeping well at night I didn't need to change anything during the day, but now she's waking for a feed after 5 hours, which is ok, but then she'll sometimes stir and fuss a bit after only 2 hours after that! She doesn't need a feed, just resettling, but this really takes it out of me. Do you think the bother with night sleeping is a result of crappy day sleep?
Sorry about the long post. Just a bit confused and worried that I'm not doing the right thing for her.

BTW, her nose is back to normal colour, hooray! Just have to put on the sorbeline now because it was looking like peeling this morning :( Gee this responsibility thing is taxing ;)

Snacks, I must have a totally different approach , but I will say this, after having 5 kids, I am more relaxed with bubby. Even though I know she should be asleep, but if she was tired enough she would be, even though I KNOW she is sleepy! If she is grizzly, I give her a dummy, or cuddle her, toys, yadda yadda yadda, even so, most of the day she can be a right pain, she sleeps all night so I kinda am not so fussed on the daytime sleeps, as long as she has a few hours. It doesn't matter if you cuddle her to sleep either, I loooove that!
Right now they are going through the whole routine change thing, which can upset them very much, so basically I just let her do what she does, cos she knows better than me what she wants/ needs.
Having said that, I haven't changed the way I do things to suit her, bath/ bedtime etc has stayed at the same times.
Zac was such an easy baby< lay him down he would sleep, so Angel is a real wake up call, she will occassionally settle in our room, after numerous trips back & forth to put in the rotten dummy.;)
You are doing the right thing by her, your there for her, I dont know about crappy day sleep interfering with her night sleep though, coz Angel is the same through the day, but has good night sleeps. She also sleeps in the lounge room through the day, with all the noise etc & sleeps far better out here than inthe quiet dark room??? And has her last bottle anywhere from 9pm til 11pm, so I dont think you are putting her to bed too late, really I think it's not our choice what time they go to bed yet.So don't worry too much about it. And sometimes Angel feed to sleep too, you can;t really help that.You're not causing bad habits, you giving Natalie all she needs/wants. I was up at 2am Monday playing "toot toot" with Zaccie, he he, cos he wouldn't go back to sleep in the storm, & he hasn't tried it again.
Your doing a great job, so relax & enjoy your bubba. Some days here, our place is a total write off, now coming from a neat freak, I ignore it. Kids grow up way too fast to worry about how clean the house is, or how much washing is falling out of the basket. ROFL. On a good day, my house is perfect & my kids are happy. Any other day, happy kids, shambles of a house!!You can thave everything!!

Hope I am of some help to you. Probably not, but Angel seems to do the same as Natalie somedays.........


**eta** GLAD HER NOSE IS GETTING BETTER

Thanks Storm, yes it is really helpful to hear a relaxed person's perspective. I don't know why I am so anxious - I wish I could go with the flow as you do and as other BBers have suggested. Some days I feel alright, but you know. I try not to force her to sleep because, like you say, when she's tired enough she'll sleep. But it's hard when she just cries - and she spits out the dummy these days. This morning she only slept for about 20 minutes in two 10min blocks, but now she's making up for it - has been asleep for over an hour and still looks peaceful. So I feel a bit better...
I have a couple of friends who have been in childcare and they make me feel a bit inferior! Stupid, I know, but I can't help it. Also we visited friends on Sunday with a 4 month old and she is a great sleeper, but I know that they are more rigid than me with routines, etc. DH asked a couple of nights ago if we should be more structured etc with her and I gave him a 15 min lecture about why I do the things I do :lol:. He was happy with it but I have been second-guessing myself ever since.
I'm sure I'll get more confident, though, and I'm certainly enjoying her. Trying not to worry about the house, LOL, and just chill. Have been on here for hours today! That's been good...

That's good Snacks, Angel sleeps in blocks, just typing that last post I got up 3 times to put the dummy back in & she was asleep when I started, then awake & looking around & when I finished she was sound asleep? Baby do sleep in 20 minute cycles so what ever happens after 20 mins (wake stay asleep) is normal.
Dont feel inferior though, she's your baby & every baby is different.

I totally agree with storm!

Don't stress too much as natalie is going through changes all the time. You are doing a wonderful job!!

As for us.... Maya still goes to sleep between 11pm-12am then sleeps through to 6-7am when i give her a bottle. then we go back to sleep till around 10.30-11am. After that maya is up and only has 10-20 min naps until bedtime again.

What Iam wondering is when do I try and introduce her to going to bed earlier?? she is 13 weeks today, should I just let her do her own thing still??? or start changing her routine, and HOW????? :p

Her grumpiness has calmed down today, thank goodness. The calendar the midwife gave me show that generally bubs have growth spurts at 12 weeks, so I put it down to that. It says the next one is at 17 weeks......


ps. dont compare your bub to anyone elses, especially if they are a bit older, just absorb tips and hints that you feel you may want to use yourself, IF IT FEELS RIGHT. I have my in-laws comparing maya to her cousin all the time AND HES 9 MONTHS!!! big difference!:doh: :rolleyes:

Chon, I have always let my babies decide what they are doing, so I cant help you with routine changes sorry. We've got Zac into a routine , which we started when he was about 12 month old, when he understood abit more. But it has changed now at 18 months to suit him. If you wanted her to go to bed earlier maybe you could wake her up earlier at each feed through the day so that it works out her last feed is earlier too? I dunno really, I dont like it when Angel goes down early, she wakes up early. Last 2 nights she's gone down at 9 & woken up at 7 eeeeeeeeeegh I rather her having her last bottle around 11, so I get to sleep longer in the morning!
LOL at the IL's comparing Maya to your cousin!!

I would try not to stress too much Amy (I know easier said than done!) Noah hardly sleeps at all in the day but sleeps ok at night from about 8pm til 9am (though he's back to waking up twice). I asked the MCH Nurse and she said as long as they're getting MINIMUM 10 hours sleep in 24 then that's ok.

Chon if you want Maya in bed earlier you could maybe try getting her up earlier in the morning? Maybe wake her up at 8-9ish? I dunno just an idea.

I do know that I am so exhausted that on Wednesday night Noah woke up at 3.30am and I was getting up to go to him when I realised he was in bed with me already. I have NO memory of him waking between 11 when I went to bed & 3.30 but obviously he did and I did the lazy thing of bringing him back into bed with me! I'm losing my mind!

LOL Lotus! How funny - your body just knows what to do that you can do it in your sleep :lol: Sounds like our bubs are all better night sleepers.
Thanks all for being patient with me! I guess the early bedtime isn't so important right now while our babies aren't mobile. Right now Natty is happily playing with the baby gym, so this is that 'me time' that other BBers talk about.
We had a lovely day today - went shopping *woohoo!!!* (can you tell I only just got off my butt and organised the baby bonus ;) ) and spent the rest of the afternoon with my parents.

Thanks for your thoughts everyone. I'm not going to stress to much about routine until she is quite a bit older. It just gets confusing sometimes when you talk to people and they all are conflicting each other. I'm just going to let her do her own thing and let her feed when she wants to feed etc etc I'm not going to be working anytime soon so its not a big deal, we get our sleep.

We are now trying to make the decision of moving her to her own room or bringing her big cot into our room. SHe has now outgrown her bassinet :( .

I'm not ready, just yet, to put her in her own room so we will move her cot in our room until she's about 5-6 months. I'm still in the habit of putting my hand on her chest to make sure she's still breathing during the night......... am I silly????


Hope everyone is well and having a good weekend!!
Chat soon
Chantal

Yeah, I understand about the conflicting advice, Chon. And no, you're not silly about the night checks... Natalie sleeps in the room next door but I still get up if she's having a long sleep and check on her. Can't help it!
We went to a first birthday party yesterday. They had a mini jumping castle that they bought from Kmart! It was great - the kids loved it, as did my DH :rolleyes:

Well, we had a great 'family' outing to the ocean today - DH is a keen birdwatcher and wanted to see a particular water bird so Natalie and I went along for the ride (and the walk). We were there in the middle of the day and it was fairly warm today, so after last time I was so fussy over her and her pale baby skin (not a bad thing ;) ) and I'm pleased to say she's white as snow still. I however am sporting two pink arms and two pink ankles! LOL, I was so desparate to keep her covered I neglected to cover myself. Heh heh.
Do you guys find that if bubs has a longer nap later in the day s/he is more difficult to settle at night? Natty is wide awake in her cradle - I can hear her talking. She had two hours from four til six this afternoon. Mistake, I reckon. But I couldn't wake her - she looked so peaceful...

I know what you mean Amy. When I see Maya sleeping peacefully during the day a bit longer than usual, I just can't wake her. I just think she needs it and if she takes a little longer to go to bed later........oh well.

We went to my friends 30th last Saturday night and Maya was fantastic, she even went fast to sleep at 11.15pm, not that we were making much noise. Its Daddy's birthday party this Saturday night, should be fun with her cousin Cooper who is 9months, they are sooo cute together.

Just wondering; is anyone giving their babies cows milk? because I was in the belief that the best time to introduce this is around 10months, my MIL thinks its alright anytime ??????? I bottle feed BTW so formula is a little expensive.(I couldnt produce milk:( )


katiam; are you still around? WOuld love to hear how your little one is going??:)

Hi ladies, glad to hear you are going great!
I never wake Angel if she's over slept either! I figure she'll wake when she's hungry enough.
Had a ****ty night last night, she kept waking every hour for her dummy, then Zac fell out of his bed & had to come in with us, he has a cold so it was snork snork snork! ROFL what a night !!

As for cows milk, it's kinda a no, no, til around 6 months, then you can use it to mix in with the rice cereal,that's about it though, it's too strong.

Well done Maya for being the ideal party baby!
Hoo boy, Storm, sounds like a long night! Hope tonight is better for you and you, Angel and Zac get lots of sleep :)
I'm by no means the expert on the milk Chon, but I was lead to understand the same thing about cows milk - too strong and too dissimilar to human milk to give to babies. You could always check with the community health nurse about it, but my guess would be that opinions have changed since MIL was feeding babies ;) My dad finds it weird that I'll feed Natalie after 2 1/2 hours instead of waiting 4 hours like I'm 'supposed to', LOL. They all have their ideas that they like to share...

Chon I asked the health nurse last week, if I was feeding by formula when would you stop and can use cows milk she said 12 months. I just wanted to know to get an idea of when to stop BF.

Our trip to Adelaide went well, no problems on the plane and everyone wanted to keep her. She did sleep really well the day after we got back, exhausted after 4 days of travel and new people. Slept well at night, even in a strange bed.

She is getting a couple of teeth at the bottom and looks like maybe two at the top as well. But taking it well so far.

New thread time girls

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