OP how are your stitches going?
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OP how are your stitches going?
Holly - I assure you, your nipples will feel better in no time. Then you will feed for ages just like I did with J. We had so many issues to start with, with J, then he fed till he weaned himself at 14 months. So it will work. Just don't let it upset you.
E has basically slept all day, so I am a bit concerned that I will be in for a looooong night. Oh well. Mum is coming over tomorrow, and she is staying for 4 or 5 days so that will be nice.
Meg- wish you didn't live so far would be great to bring the girls over! Ikwym bout quiet with 1, I said to Df today how stressed we were with just Ash and now just one would seem so much easier! Thats great your mum is coming over for few days, did your hubby get some time off work?
OP- How did your day end up, she settle more as the day went on? Its so hard to know what is wrong and what to do! Just try everything and anything and even sometimes that doesn't seem to work.
Holly- My boobs are so sore at moment with engorgement, they never got this bad with Ash. Its hard to attach because of it and then it hurts to feed and have to keep re trying.
AJP- How long did it take for your engorgement to settle? Its really getting me down at the moment.
Em been unsettled for last few hours on and off the boob, starts crying 5 mins after we put her down. Hopefully she'll settle soon and get a good night sleep, guess it much prefer it now than in middle night again. We've even got dummy out this time which did settle but once she loses it starts crying so whatever we do she gets so upset once we stop!
Hopefully we all get more settled bubs soon.
I just thought to myself maybe Em hates being swaddled (cause Ash never liked it) and so I undid it and guess what she rolled her head to the side and went to sleep! Lets see if it lasts.
shell i was badly engorged from day 3-6ish,its settled though im pretty full now on one side and millie is due to feed the other side next feed and not onthe full side :rolleyes: she only has one side.
apparently the engorgment is worse second time around
Fab, so I can expect engorgement next time round... :rolleyes:
Got DD to sleep at about 3pm, awake again at 5pm.
Has been awake pretty much since then... feeding and crying...
AJP my stitches are ok, I'm on antibiotics, am now worried they are making Isabel sick...
id get both of you onto probiotics, you can take the capsules and you can get some kids powder stuff to put onto your nipples for isabel, go to your health food shop.
are your stitches falling out yet?? mine have started and it feels almost normal again !!
AJP what will the probiotics do??
And no I don't think they are falling out yet... I'm supposed to be having 2-3 salt baths a day but DD has not let me today... managed one while DH was here but that's it... sigh.
Thinking I should stop the antibiotics... worried they are giving me the runs (bad runs)... and possibly upsetting Isabel... I've had no appetite today, only eaten one piece of toast and a bit of mashed potato... might call my Obs tomorrow and ask her...
AJP, the attachment was never an issue until he had the bottle and I started using lansinoh so I'm wondering if it has something to do with either of those two things: with the bottle the milk flows with little need for him to suck whereas on my boob he needs to put in some effort to get it flowing so maybe he's getting lazy and prefers the bottle? And with the lansinoh, it makes my nipples really slimey when he puts his mouth on them and I think it's hard for him to get a good grip and attach right even when I've tried to get as much of the stuff off first...sighhhh
OceanPrincess, that bottle sounds really good! I will defintely look out for something similar.
shellbell, how did DD sleep last night after being unwrapped? The engorgement has settled down here, I just have to keep massaging out the lumps to try prevent it. It's just my stupid nipples getting me down :wall:
Speaking of salt baths, I'm going to go have one now while Leon is asleep. I didn't need stitches but I do have some grazing/small tear which is pretty painful!!
Leon is sleeping SO well! He has a feed, burped, wait for poo, change nappy, on boob again until he's out of it, then swaddled and put in his snuggle bed where he'll sleep until the next feed. He is currently feeding every 4 hours like clock work! We have cuddles and play time while waiting for his poo! I just can't wait for my nipples and tear down there to heal and then it would be perfect...
Well my unswaddled trick worked for like 20mins only, we had a terrible night, she just would not settle til 1:15am, she was on and off the boob, we tried everything! Everything got her to sleep but nothing kept her asleep for longer than 10mins. I don't know how I'll cope once Df goes back to work. Won't be able to sleep in anymore.
Holly- Yeah could be the bottle, I have heard babies can get lazy cause bottles are so much easier to suck from. Are you back to the breast or still expressing? Is there a lactation person at the hospital you had him at you can call for advice?
AJP- Yep thats sure right, way worse this time round, after shower today I thought there was a porn star in my bathroom!
BBL the cow is being called to be milked again!
Must have been the night for it... Isabel didn't sleep til 1am last night either. She's been unsettled again today... We're off to the MCHN soon so I'll see what she says.:
Holly, sounds like you have dream baby, apart from the feeding! Keep persisting...
op the probiotics will put good bacteria back in to both your guts as the AB's kill both the good and bad bacteria. which is why you have the runs.
i worked out milllie likes her hands wrapped up near her face
AJP - I wish Alex would be on and off the BBs in such a short time. He usually falls asleep and I have to tickle him to wake him up - usual settling time is the best part of an hour - but then he will sleep for 2-3 hours.
Shell - I hear you with the swaddling thing - Alex sometimes will just go down unswaddled and wake up calm, then if I swaddle him and he gets his arms loose, then he lets the whole world know how bad things are. The only time he seems really content is co-sleeping or in my arms sleeping, just after a feed. I know Alex wakes when he gets too hot.. Have you tried a warm deep bath?
Sorry don't get on here as often as I would like - I'm always going to sleep when Alex goes down for his naps - I just can't function on little sleep.
Holly, I got some grazing on the nipples early on and the lactation consultant at the hospital told me to do the following when feeding:
- With the hand the same side as the breast you are feeding from squeeze the areola in at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions
- With the opposite hand hold the back of the baby's head and get as much of the nipple in to the mouth as possible
- Hold this position while the baby feeds. You will look like you have one arm as a chicken wing and the other along the baby's spine.
I hope that makes sense but it really helped me get her attachment right and cleared up the grazes (and stopped her vomiting up the blood she was swallowing) really quickly. I was also using the lansinoh after each feed. I didn't stop breastfeeding at all so I don't know about the bottle affecting it at all.
Thanks Nai!! That really does make sense and I'm going to try it next feed.
Shellbell, I hope you have a better night tonight. Before I tried the snuggle bed, Leon would not stay settled for longer than a few minutes (20 mins in his crib was the record!). Re feeding, he is currently feeding on the left breast only as it's not as bad. I'm expressing the right and giving him a bottle of ebm for middle of night/early morning feed. I'm going to try what Nai suggested and hopefully be able to feed okay on both sides really soon :pray: Problem is, I'm expressing more milk than he can drink! I don't want any of it to go to waste! Anyone know what the go is with freezing the milk? What to store it in, how long for, what quantities, etc... :redface:
I'm really nervous about the next feed, just wish I could relax but I anticipate the pain and get all tensed up - that can't be helping :doh:
Shell - I so wish I could lend you my mum, and that we lived closer together. DH went back to work today, and my mum is staying here until the weekend, so that is great.
E has slept all day, so I am bracing for a full on night. At least J will be looked after by Nanna in the morning, and I can try and rest.
I have been taking probiotics and so has J, as we both had 5 lots of gastro during my pregnancy.
AJP - You would get some cute pics with her hands up!
Holly - How was Leon today??
I am going to try for an early night. Mum will listen out for E and bring her in. I want to catch up on Ladette to Lady that I taped, as I am never awake to watch the end!!
Holly- I think in the breastfeeding section they have info on storing EBM. I can't remember it all. Be good to freeze and put away so when you get around to having a night off you have feed there.
I'm getting nervous already bout how tonight will go, she sleeps so well in the day, only had to rock the bassinet once.
Had the MCHN over and she told me can take up to 8 weeks for them to sort night from day! :o Hope we aren't waiting that long.
Hey girls
just wondering if it is OK to crash your thread!! Even though levi was born 2/2 i know you girls better so wondering if it OK to come on in
mwah
odette
Of course Det, we'd love to have you with us!
crash away odette!!!! i couldnt part from you guys either!!
shell im worried about tonight too! DD has literally slept all day :o
meg her hands are in the wrap but just up near her face if that makes sense, instead of down her side which she fights, this way shes quiet happy.
holly you can get bags to freeze but they can get expensive otherwise avent sell little cups and lids that are reusable
AJP - DD is already fussing after 2-3 good sleeps today so I'm with you :( I'm about to get into bed with her and try to get her to settle. She seems to be tired but not wanting to sleep.
:hug: nai so i might see you on here in the wee hours of the morning!!
im off to bed as millie has gone down without a peep :o she has seriously been awake for a total of 3 hours allllll day :o sense my uh oh.....
i had toddlergroup today with both girls by myself all day and im buggered, need to see how my haemoglobin and iron are but thats another 2-3 weeks away, i;ll need matchsticks for the eyes soon
I am so with everyone. E slept all day yest. She was up a little overnight, but nothing that I couldn't manage.3am she had a feed, and then didn't settle, so back on the other boob, and then in bed with us. So she was really only fussing for about 15 mins and feeding the rest of the time. I think I even fell asleep while feeding! She is back to sleeping and needing to be woken for a sleep. I wish she did that at night!
Had an improved night, Em had feed at 10 which I thought great can go sleep after but took til MN to settle, then woke exact 3 hrly for feeds. Night feeds just frustrating cause I spend alot time trying to keep her awake to get decent feed in.
Saw bit blood on Ems jumpsuit and realised its from my nipple, no wonder its so bloody sore, been using the lasinoh cream. Can't wait to get past this hard part of breastfeeding cause I know how lovely and enjoyable it is once I get past this pain and attachment barrier.
AJP- I was just thinking this morn about how I'll go next week with my first outing with the 2 of them, already quite daunting! Bring out the match sticks I say.
Nai- Howd yr night go?
Meg, we posted same time, hopefully they get this night/ day business sorted sooner rather than later, its great you can feed lying down, because pain and engorgement I really have to sit up and concentrate on attaching, Em sleeps next to me and Df been sleeping in other room so at least waking is easier when in the bed.
Hey girls
feel so much better posting in here with all you girls- hopefully ali and kazz will join us soon! WIll have to give MK and laura the heads up as well- keep us girls together- cause we can chat!!!!!
For those who dont know me- i'm Odette- i have 6 year old twins and Levi who was born 2/2/09- our promise bubs!
I am really enjoying having just one full term bub this time around- so much different. He is a pretty cruzy baby- has to be with an name like Levi- lol. We still have our unsettled times, our grumpy times, but mostly he feeds, sleep and puts on weight. Had him weighed Tues- now 10lb4- so put on 1 1/2 Lbs in two weeks- his nickname is now "pud"!
My twins are bessotted with him- Hector the protector has to keep tabs on his every move and mother hen can settle him some times better than i can- she is way more motherly than me!
So that is it for me- finding that this time around i am not getting as frustrated as i did being a first time mum- hindsight and perspective is a wonderful things. My mantra- "It is a phase"!! - i repeat that esp when i have tried 6 times in a row to get him to settle lol
well that is it for me at the moment- he has just fallen asleep next to me after tying to settle him in the cot 5 times- ah well try again next nap- lol
mwah to you beautiful girls and bubs
hi girls
just a quickie from me
holly- my nipples are shocking atm too, grazed and sore. i used nipple shields for the last feed and it was heaps better. they are just a temporary fix, but they help get you through till your nipples heal.
ajp- i had j at mitcham. you were at angliss right?
girls- just letting you know there is 50% off some gorgeous hot milk at zodee. i bought a bra and pjs
Ohhh - I grew up in Mitcham. I moved out west when i married DH 6 years ago. It is so my stomping ground. My sis is delivering in Mitcham in August,
yep rainy at the angliss!!
BBL been out all day and im dizzy and buggered!
oh and millie is now 4.kg up 500g in 2 weeks, head grown 2.5 cm and length almost 3cm :o
well we had a good night last night up 3 times to feed, 3 hourly, so no complaints.
really starting to realise just how tired a pph can make you feel, soooo drained.
Det- happy to have you here :D
Meg - I think Alex was playing copy cat. Last night he woke at 1.30am and didn't settle til 4.30am when I kicked DH out of bed so we could co-sleep, until 9am (again on and off the bb), now back to two hourly feeding.
Have you girls found out any foods that bubs don't like you eating?
Does anyone else have a baby that isn't happy unless feeding or sleeping? I swear Juliette has about 5 min a day where she is both awake and happy - the rest of the time she is grizzling, sleeping or feeding.
She is being demand fed so it feels like she is feeding all the time! Also she would't sl;eep yesterday unless it was on me! I felt like I sat down all day either feeding or holding her. Luckily G was at childcare. She is home today so I hope J doesn't do a repeat performance.
Morning ladies and bubs,
Apologies for the absence. DH has had the computer at work the last couple of days, leaving me stranded!!
Possibly wouldn't have been on much anyway, Isabel had a pretty unsettled couple of days. Yesterday she was pretty good though so I'm hoping today she'll be ok as well.
We went to the MCHN on Wednesday and she's put on another 340g so she's now 4.1kg - AJP I think she and Millie are going weight gain for weight gain! :D She hasn't grown much in length though, only half a cm. Oh well!
MCHN said the ABs are definitely what is making her unsettled - apparently they can give bubs belly ache. Poor love. So for me to fix my epi, she's gotta be sick :( I feel like the worst mother ever...
Nurse also said that she'd prob be unsettled until the ABs were finished and through her system, so that's another couple of days. Sigh. The only good thing is that even though she's unsettled, once she goes down around 10-11-midnight, she will sleep for four hours generally so that's great.
How's everyone else going? Holly, how's the feeding?
Hi to Det! Glad to see you :D
Shell -hope you had a good night last night. 3 hrs isn't too bad - Isabel will do her four hour stint but then generally goes 2 hourly. Ah well.
Nai, I know what you mean about being awake and happy for not too long. I think that's ok though? At this age they aren't supposed to be awake and alert for long periods at all. I was reading a handout from the MCHN that says that over the next few weeks they should have at least one period of alertness after a feed that starts to develop the "feed-play-sleep" pattern.
I try to look for that period (even if its only 5 or 10 mins) and put Isabel on her tummy or the play gym or read her a book.
We're demand feeding too - I have just had two days where I felt like she cried or fed the whole day, without sleeping more than 30 mins at a time. I'm supposed to be salt bathing my epi to help it heal and I can't get away from Isabel for long enough to run a bath and sit in it for 10mins :rolleyes:
Unselttled night here. I am buggered. Felt like I was awake all night. She was up every 2 hours. Had really bad wnd. Ended up in bed with me all night.
Mum is still here so she took her and I went backto bed for another 2 hours. Just got up. But I feel like I have been hit by a mack truck.
How are you girls coping that have other siblings? We are doing Ok because mum is here, not suer how I will go when she is gone thoug....
DP is home for another week and hopefully my mum will come and stay once he has gone back to work. DD is in childcare a couple of days a week so hopefully that will save my sanity until I start to get into the swing of things with the new bub!
Also feel like I have been hit bt a truck!! It must be the week for it :D
Meg I don't have another child and I'm also wondering how I'll survive when mum stops bringing me supplies, cleaning up, doing washing and generally keeping me sane...
AJP - just re-read your post, didn't realise you had a PPH! Hope you are ok? Look after yourself! Was it a bad one???
I suppose on the bright side we're all sleep deprived together?
Em always decides to have her unsettled time at around 10pm ish whenever she wakes for a feed and will not resettle til after the next feed so I'm kept awake for that horrible time where you're just ready to fall asleep. I have no idea what to do, I get her to sleep for about 5-10mins before she is awake crying again.
At the moment Df is still home, no idea how I'll go next week, he went to gym before and I got a glimpse of what things will be like, trying to make Ash lunch while Em was screaming and Ash playing with the phone not listening to me to put it down!
Meg- Does she settle alot better in bed with you? I might have to try it out, at moment she is in bassinet next to me, might try getting her out and cuddling.
OP- Yay on weight gain, when do your Abs finish? I don't know where you'd find time for baths either, hard enuff to find time for just a quick shower.
Nai- Em has some nice awake times but I have to get her settled as soon as I see she is getting tired or she will get really cranky.
AJP- I'm not surprised you feel so crappy, I feel so run down from low iron so can only imagine how crappy you must be feeling.
Det- Thats great how the twins adore Levi, got 2 little helpers on hand there for you!
oh very crap!!! soooo tired its not funny, i never needed a nana nap when sophie was born, but this time i feel like i could sleep all day,
op lost 1.5 litres, transfused 2 units of blood the next day, found out that 1.5 litres is around 25% of my blood volume :o scary!!
sounds like our girls are on a par!! must be something about the 18th ;)
shell i had the girls wednesday to myself and had the same issues at lunch time!! thinking i will get sophies lunch ready early in the day.
nai DH is off for another week too!!!
meg i hope you get some rest with your mum around :hug:
millie went :hide: 7 hours last night :hide: pity it was 7-2 and i went to bed at 10.30 thinking she would wake any minute :rolleyes: bet it was a once off too!!
Hi ladies,
Thanks Rainforest, I'm starting the nipple shields tomorrow. The mchn came around yesterday and told me to give my nipples a rest, they are in a very bad condition - cracked, chunks missing. So I had to express yesterday and all day today and give him ebm and tomorrow start bf using nipple shields until they heal. I'm sad about using a bottle and missing skin contact but it's nice to give my nipples a rest and he doesn't seem to mind :) Hope yours are on the mend!
Nai, I hardly get any awake time at all from Leon that isn't feeding or settling time. He has about 10 mins of awake time when changing nappy where he's really content and just stares at us and makes cute baby sounds!
OceanPrincess, that's great about the weight gain! Is everyone bfing here? Since using the bottle I've noticed Leon has about 80mls each feed and could often have more but we don't offer him more than 80, as the mchn said not to overfeed him and 80ml is quite a bit feed. He doesn't mind once it's all gone and goes off to sleep happily but I'd kinda like to let him finish feeding when he's ready and full, not when the bottle is empty :dunno:
Megie & Shellbell, hope you have a better night tonight. Megie, it's good that your mum is there to help so you can have some rest. I don't know how you guys do it with toddlers as well. Like OceanPrincess, I only have the one and don't know how I'd cope without my mum's help right now!
AJP - wow at 7 hours! Must have had a nice feed before!
Well Leon is asleep in my arms, it's taken me ages to do this post, kept having to come back to it :rolleyes: Off to get the nachos from the oven, have a good night all xox
No fair AJP! 7 hours! I have bought some wind drops to try with E. I will see if that helps tonight. Sooooo tired. Went to my Grandma's today. It was good to get out, but really wiped me out. Lying on the couch now while E is asleep. Gee I wish she would sleep like this during the night!