got your pm nai, thanks!!
shell you've just reminded me to add millie to our private health insurance too
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got your pm nai, thanks!!
shell you've just reminded me to add millie to our private health insurance too
It's pouring here!! The sky was almost black before!
Had a crap night. Leon always seems to need to burp and is constantly unsettled. I'm always settling him, picking him up because he needs to burp, putting him down again, same thiing starts again. And the need to feed...don't get me started :wall: Am going to try start feeding off the right side again today...really anxious about it. I just want to get it right coz one ill attachment could just ruin it again and shatter my confidence! I've been expressing it for over a week now and I'm concerned about my supply on that side - obviously it's a lot less than the left which he's been feeding off, but I hope it catches up fine.
Sorry for selfish post, will do personals later. I'm just so worried about this feeding!!
Morning ladies
Standard Isabel night here last night - unsettled around 4-7pm, went for a snooze around 7.30pm for about an hour, screamed for an hour, I fed her, she slept for an hour, then screamed again, finally got her down at about 11pm and she slept til 4am. That part was lovely!
It did take a bit longer than normal to settle her at the 4am feed... but when she finally went back to sleep she slept til almost 8am.
And it was the first night that I didn't wake up with weird dreams about feeding DD in bed and then going to sleep and forgetting about her... anyone else had weird dreams??
WRT the Medicare stuff... We sent off the birth registration off a while ago, like maybe two weeks? Haven't gotten anything back yet. How long did it take everyone else? The Medicare form, we filled in the form online to get the claim number and sent it off just last week. How long should it take to process??
AJP - how good is the rain?? Woot.
Ali - you are doing really well. Its so hard, I know, I was just talking to DH about it - about not knowing what's wrong and how to fix it. Sometimes its just easier to stick them on the boob! You're going great!
Hi to everyone else!! Isabel needs a feed so bbl...
holly hun its normal to feel anxious but try and relax maybe jump on the bath with leon and feed him in there, might help you relax a little. you doing a great job!!!
back in my jeans with the button done up AND a belt :lol:
OP ours took about 10 days to come back!!
5 hours is awesome!! so is the rain!!!
i had those dreams all the time with sophie but not as much this time, very normal!!
Oh that reminds me that I need to add Emilia to our private health insurance. Everything else is done though
Holly- Good luck, take some deep breaths and see how it goes. Maybe try when he is not so hungry cause I find attaching when they are flinging their head around alot harder.
OP- Our birth certificate took just over week to come back. I don't think I have any dreams, well that I remember anyway just way too tired!
hey girls
typing with my little man zzz on my shoulder- soo cute
medicare etc- got the form from hossy- it had to be signed and stamped by OB and hossy. Filled it out and took it to medicare office a week after he was born. Filled in birth certificate forms at same time. Also had to ring family assistance to update my details- it was easy as i am allready a 'customer'. Got first payment from baby bonus last week $384 buck approx. Got medicare card 10 days after lodging and birth certificate around the same time. By going into medicare to lodge it they gave me a temp card so i had something if i needed it. A woman from our health insurance came into the hossy and signed levi up- got the card about 3 week later- so with all that- he is officially ours and registered!!
love family assistance office- now get extra $160 for having a 3rd child and also get a larger family payment- WTF- 3 Kids is considered a big family- i will take it! It pays to reproduce in oz!!!
DH off all day/nite at the concert- so just me and the kids today- going to the shops now - get out or get claustraphobic! LOL
Levi sleeping pretty good - fed at 12.45, 3.45 and 6.45 and then again at 8.30. sounds like alot to be waken but hey after the twins this is pretty cool!!!! My twins were insane. Fed 3 hourly around the clock- it would take me over an 90 mins to feed them, around 45 mins to express for next feed and the had 75 mins till next feed! and that was till they were 6 months old!!!!
It does get easier girls the sleep depriviation!!! It just such a shock to your body to start with- lol i can function quite normally now on 2 hours sleep - scary!!!
My best tips for handling the sleep deprivation is to ensure that you have a really good mulit-vitamin, drink heaps of water and ummm chocolate!!!! No seriously keep your sugar levels as good as they could be- sugar levels all over the place on top of tiredness are a receipe for a disaster!!! Keep plenty of healthy snacks in the cupboard so you can quickly grab them on the run!!!
mwah to all and have a good weekend!!
OMG- i just noticed how many of us are in Melb!!!!!
maybe down the track we should do a meet up sometime!!!!
just an idea!!!
In between sides here... DH changing nappy... love the weekends :D
Holly - you are doing such a great job hun. :hug: GL feeding off the other side...
OOh nappy change done...
Meet up sounds great!!
AJP - so jealous of your jeans effort. Grr!
Det - someone came to hosp and did our private health insurance too, so we got that card in the mail not long after getting home.
No birth cert yet...
Oooo I wonder if DH would let me come to Melbourne for a catch up lol! And some shopping!!!! Don't know how Anika would go flying from Perth to Melbourne just yet?
Had a great night last night...DH slept downstairs to catch up on some sleep...at me request as he's been a bit of a zombie and have friends coming over today and need him to the 'host' while I look after Anika. This morning however has been a different story!!! 3 power feeds in a row all just over an hour apart...and now finally sleeping...ahhhhh...my poor boobies! Holly ...I hear you hun!!! Just remember to breath!!!
Melb meet up sounds great to me!!
Ellie - maybe when Anika is a little older you could come to Melb? J idid his first flight at about 4 months old to Tassie and was a dream.
Hi girls, well i seem to have got feeding back on track this arvo. Mum and dad came over at lunch, made me something to eat and I even managed to wash my hair and blow dry it. OH its a nice feeling. Such a luxury now. They took DD for her first walk in the pram which put her to sleep. I think they loved it as much as she did.
Our feeding after our marathon morning has been 11:30, 2:30, 5:30. Lets hope it stays 4 hourly through the night.
Having mum and dad here today really helped me to understand that it is okay not to go to her as soon as she makes a noise. SHe can wait another 5 minutes before i go to her. She is doing so many poos. They are fluro orange!! i think her chord stump is going to fall out soon.
Wish i was in melbourne so i could meet up with you girls.
Ellie- i have been telling dp to sleep in spare rppm as well. there is no point us both being exhausted and he is still working 2 jobs.
OP- i hear you on the bizzarre dreams, maybe we re having them because we are in such light sleep mode which is when dreams happen. We dont get to sleep long enough to have deep sleep!! SOunds like Isabel is sleeping really well after hose screaming sessions.
Nai and Det- thanks for the info about forms, etc. I will call up to answer questions on the phone. I have filled out birth registration so I wills end that off in the post tomorrow or Monday.
Jols- Way to go on the jeans!!!! :hooray: I havent tried yet but my belly isn;t sticking out much anymore but it is soft and jelly like. I think because my boobs have grown so much it looks like my stomach is smaller!!! :ROFL: THey have settled down today, not as lumpy. My mum went out and got me a couple of maternit bras in a bigger size and they are super comfy. I did the shower thing and that helped heaps as well.
Holly- :Lhug: your night sounded like mine! I am finding that burping seems to wake her up to much. Hoping we have a better night tonight.
We are going out tonight when DP gets home, just to some family friends house. My parents are already there. It will be our first outing. I just packed the nappy bag to make sure everything was in there.
OH I need another tip from you girls, I am finding that my nipples stiuck to my breast pads and then it hurts to unstick them, any suggestions as to how not to stick or on some brands on breast pads that you dont get this with?
ali pm me your addy, i have some cloth ones i got from maz and i dont need them all so will send a pair your way!!
yay on the first outing!!
I was going to suggest cloth ones Ali.
AJP, so jealous of your jeans- serves me right for eating so much ;)
Det, a meet up sounds great!
Ali, lather on some lansinoh to prevent the pads from sticking. You're doing well going on outings already - I've only made it up the street to the MCHN and the doctors :ROFL:
AJP, well done on getting back into the jeans! :clap: I foolishly tried on the most "generous" pair I had the other day...they didn't even go past my thighs :redface:
OP, I agree it definitely is easier to just stick em on the boob when in doubt!
shell & AJP, thanks for your advice - I managed to feed on both sides today :dance: I'm really proud of both of us and it was a true case of mind over matter (well at the beginning it wasn't but I've kept putting it off telling myself my nipple wasn't ready yet!). Trying to attach was a nightmare though as I was so terrified of doing it wrong I kept pulling back. Not to worry though, it went better than I thought :)
Ellie, hope those feeds settle down for both of us!
Det, wow feeding the twins sounds like a real workout! Things must seem so easy this time around.
Hi Megie, Nai & everyone else :hello:
Hoping for a better night tonight :pray:
Still haven't put him down except the 1/2 hr drive to the MIl house.. ended up cosleeping last night - gave up at 12 trying get him to settle gotta go he's complaining again!
Tarkine- Do you have a sling or something you could put him in in the day? Will help settle him as well as allow you to do things. Maybe too you could hire hammock, we're thinking about hiring one, meant to be great for unsettled bubs.
Holly- Yay on the feeding! Glad it went well, should boost your confidence too each time.
My Df too is out sleeping in spare room and bubs is in with me, so much easier cause I don't have to get up then to feed/ settle and Df gets a good night sleep so he can do all the cooking/ cleaning- thats the deal we have while I'm up at night.
Melb meet sounds great all the bubs can cry and cluster feed together, lol.
I wish miss Em would go to sleep so I can try have early night, wanted to watch sound relief tho wish I could've gone.
Tarkine, I second the sling - I have a Hug-a-Bub and J slept in it on me for 2 hours yesterday.
I have found that J is not only windy but also quite chucky :( Often I will pick her up, she will do a burp and a vomit and then be ok - it's not usually very much. I don't think it's reflux as she is pretty happy about it all but she does seem to vomit more than G ever did. I am constantly walking around with a cloth nappy over my shoulder which isn't a good look.
Tarkine, definitely get a sling/carrier! We have a hug a bub and Leon loves it. He just loves to be held close and it allows you to keep getting things done.
Shell, my DP is sleeping upstairs while I'm downstairs. He's no help to me anyway...we tried sleeping all together so he could help me but he sleeps through everything and is so disoriented when I wake him up for help. He'll be like "what, huh, where?" I ask him to get me some warm water and he goes rummaging through Leon's drawers... :rolleyes: Also he starts work at 4am so I don't need him waking me up (although most often than not I'm already up!) Hope Em is falling asleep as I type this!
Okay while Leon is sleeping I'm really going to try and get some shut eye.
Hello my name is Odette and I am a Sound Relief Concert Widow - lol
DH went to the concert today - some boy time!! He never goes out to have time for himself so was wrapped that he did- but man the twins are doing my head in tonite!!!!
Levi has been a dream and was asleep in his cot at 7.30pm - dont ask me how??? Maybe he had enough of the twins are well.
They have both been smart a*ses with their mouths- fair ****um they are lucky their heads are still on their shoulders tonite!! Sent them to bed at 7.30pm for being rude and naughty and THEY ARE STILL AWAKE!!!!
If i was a big drinker, i would've hit the bottle by now- grrrrr! ah well a cup of tea will have to do!
I was gonna ask you girls where to get cloth breast pads from, but you girls answered my question- so maz is the woman!!! My boobs leak like sprinklers and i manage to fully soak and kill 2 breast pads every 12 hours!!! I bought a box today and nearly freaked $8 for 30!!! Had been given the other packets that i had- If my boobs wernt so big to start with, I would stick tissues there instead!!!
Cool that you girls are up for a meet. Do you want to wait till hte little ones are a bit bigger or soon? Only thing is if we wait longer the weather might start to get colder- but hey who knows in melb. Any ideas where a central place would be. I'm in the north-east suburbs-but happy to go where its central - any ideas???
back to concert watching . .. and listening to the twins still GRRRRRRR
im out east but happy to meet anywhere, i will leave sophie with my parents though! soon sounds good!!
i have two boxes of disposible breastpads if anyone wants them! pm me your details and ill mail then out!!
det sophie was terrible today, major meltdowns, in bed by 6.30 and already woken twice which is soooooo unlike her :o scared at what the night will hold
holly glad the feeding went better today!
tarkine :hug: hun, maybe get alex checked out by an osteo and see if maybe something is out of whack
nai hope the chucking settles for you.
shell hi hun!!
I probably live the furthest away out in Gisborne. But my parents live in the East suburbs. I am happy to meet wherever. I am used the travelling.
Sorry gotta keep this short, but we have peopleover at the moment. watching the sound relief concert.
where do your parents live meg???
we had a good night fed at 8.30pm, 1am, 5am and 7am
Tarkine - as AJP suggested an osteo might help but make sure it is one who specialises in babies.
Cr@p night here - feeding every 2 hours then DD1 woke up whinging for mummy at 7am after I had just fed J at 6am :(
For a meet up I'm inner city so can pretty much meet anywhere but maybe something central or close to public transport would be good?
AJP- My parents are in Mitcham. I lived East for 26 years, before DH convinced me to move this way.
Tarkine - i don't know what state you are in, but my sister is an osteopath who specialised in babies. She is in the Eastern subs of Melb
I'd come to a meet! I'm in the south-east, somewhere close to public transport is good - I don't have a car.
Had a pretty good night last night. Leon fed at 9:30pm, 10:45pm, 2:00am, 5:30am and 7:30am and he settled back to sleep so well after each feed :dance:
He is growing so fast. He is already too big for his 0000 clothes and he can't wear some of his mittens anymore as the elastic has gotten too tight. My chubby bubby!
Det, glad to hear Levi settled down early and quickly unlike the twins! Hope they didn't stay awake for too much longer.
AJP, how did Sophie go overnight? Millie's feeding pattern sounds like Leon's (apart from his snack at 10:45).
Nai, hope you can get a rest today.
How long does everyone's bubba's feed for? Leon will only feed for 5-10 minutes but will gulp it all down. It's just suck suck suck and hardly any time to breathe! My boob will feel pretty empty after but it just seems too quick. Is this normal? I can only offer him one side per feed as he is too out of it and full after his burp to go back for seconds.
Em finally settled after 11, she always seems to have her unsettled time late arvo/ evening. So Df was out last night I had Em wanting to cluster feed and crying while trying to get a toddler ready for bed, felt bad for poor Ash cause kept having to go to Em and trying to read Ash her bedtime story and have Em screaming. Was very stressful and nightmare. Told Df from now on he can have his boys night out AFTER Ash is in bed. Of course in night too I'm feeding Em and Ash wakes up crying wish there were 2 of me!
Holly- Em will go no longer than 10 mins and then usually 5-10 on other side depending on how hungry she is. I always thinking is it enough. ETA: I just realised you don't live far from me, I'm in Bentleigh.
Nai- I have to say I am lucky with my toddler sleeping in. She never is up before 8. Helps alot with a newborn, hope you get some rest today, get you Dh to look after them while you nap.
Tarkine- If you do decide to buy a sling the hug a bub website has the pocketless ones for $20 off, so $65. I just bought one, they are quite expensive, the ones with pockets are over $100 so thought not worth the extra just for pocket.
Does everyone else stress if bubs are getting enough milk? Em has plenty wet nappies but when she starts cluster feeding and acting starving and my boobs are pretty much empty cause she is on there hourly I start to worry that I'm not providing enough in the evening. Even been tempted to go buy formula and see if she wants top up, but haven't yet, I think I'll see how her weight is at our MCHN appt tomor.
meg im in mooroolbark!!
holly millie is almost to big for 000 bonds wondersuits!!! 000 in everything else is fine though!!
these feb babies must like to feed quickly, i think we all have the same issues with fast drinkers!!!
sophie slept through after waking the two times! thankgoodness!!!
shell i feed millie one side, change bum then offer the same side again to make sure she is getting the hindmilk, i offer the otehr if she's looking for it but not very often.
i tell DH the same about going out after sophie is in bed!! its tough when the both need you, we had that yesterday morning!
weighed millie today after her bath and she was 4.5kg on our scales, get her weighed again on thursday. DH is back at work tomorrow :(
Glad I'm not the only one with a cluster feeder - sadly he feeds waaaay longer than 5-10minutes. Feels like that's all I do. He just doesn't want to sleep today at all. I have a couple of slings but even they're not working.
We are co-sleeping at the moment - at least I get a bit of sleep. He just won't settle enywhere else.
Ali I second the lansinoh on the nipples. It will improve though. Make sure you let your niples airdry before you pull your bra back up if you can.
Det, the Maz ones are great, though I'm going through a pair about every feed - I hear ya on the sprinkler effect....I wonder if your six year olds could keep my nearly three year old entertained??? We had to put the safety gate up at Nate's room today to stop her going in there.
lol Holly, my boofa is in a 00 tshirt today, and he's nearly out of his new born nappies.
Tarkine, you have my sympathy hun :hug:
Shell, yep I worry all the time. My milk settled down really quickly this time, but I figure if it's spilling out of his mouth and he's not sucking any more he's had enough.
Had a great first outing. Ashlyn was such a perfect baby even with heaps of niise around. Her unsettld period seems to be in the morning.
She feeds really well from about 11:30am going 3 hourly all the wayu thtough the evening and then at about 4-5am it all goes out the window and she starts cluster feedng and I cant get her to settle without falling asleep on my boob and then I cant move her from there or she'll get upset with me.
Her chord stump fell off last night.
Sorry for selfish post I have to go to sleep now as I have been awake since 4:30am.
On a happier note, my boobs are starting to settle down now. Still need the cold face washers on them at night but much better now.
Jols- Thanks for that offer. That is lovely. I will come back later and PM you my details. xo
kim nate just through my theory out the window!! :lol:
we put those child proof knobs on millies door to also stop sophie going in there adn yelling "millies awake" or "millies asleep" :rolleyes:
ali you must be buggered!! hope you get some sleep
AJP - I had heaps of friends in the mooroolbark/Lilydale/Chirnside Park area as I went to school at TIntern. I know the area quite well.
Wow - all this big bubs. E is still well and truly in 0000.
Ali - I hope you get some sleep.
Kim - How is Darcy going with Nate in general?
Shell - I would have been sayin to DF no boys nights till the girls have settled. So he may need to take a few weeks off boys nights, as you need the support.
Holly- E only does 15 - 20 mins ma and usually only 1 side during a feed. That is if she hasn't fallen asleep and is just comfort sucking. MCHN said that as long as you think they are swallowing milk, it doesn't really matter how long.
E did ok last night. 8:30pm, 11:30pm, 2:30am, 6am, 9am. Settled between each feeed up till 6am, when i let her snooze in with me.
J ususally gets up at 7am, so Nai I know how you feel about getting up with the toddler. The good think is that J will get in with us for a while, and I put a DVD on. He will happily stay in bed with us for a good hour or so.
J came home for IL's today. He had a good time, but it means that I will need to deal wth the 2 kids again. On the bright side, my sis is doing a uni placement out this way, so she is going to stay a few nights here. I told here as long as she is happy to cook and maybe bath J. She is happy to do so, so that's great.
I was worried about milk as well as J is doing a lot of cluster feeding (AJP - she is a fast drinker too!) so I expressed this morning and in less than 5min I got 50ml :D She was just fussing so DP gave her the 50ml EBM in a bottle and she gulped down about 40ml and passed out!
I'm actually glad I tried that as it means that I can express and know that she will take it from a bottle if I need her to. We have the Aldiri ones which are BPA free and supposed to be the most "breast like". She didn't seem to have any aversion to it.
All I can say it...I'm stuffed! Anika definately has her day and night confused...was awake from 12 to 3am...bright eyed wanting to hang with mum and dad and chat...happy little thing but only if in our arms and looking at our faces! I wonder if it's coz I've goine from feeding one side every three hours to offering both...I don't know...but everything seems to be a blur!!!
I hear you girls on the cluster feeding- i am almost 2 weeks ahead of you girls and it does settle down- Levi only cluster feeding once a day now- if that- so days he hasnt at all for the past few days- it does get easier
Cluster feeding is our bubs building our supply- so the fact that they are still doing means that they have grown heaps and need more to cope with their new size! Dont be surprise if you get really big weight gains after stages of cluster feeding- it signals that there has been a growth spurt! If unsure - look at photos of when they were born, and see how much they have changed allready and how much bigger they are-its surprising!!
REMEBER THE MANTRA- IT IS A PHASE AND WE WILL GET THROUGH IT!!!!!!!
Boof has gotten so much bigger- his hands and head look big as now- lol starting to put some 00 on him now- had to go out and buy the next size up nappy as they just fit around him and the past couple of days he is well and truly filling them and some overfill when he poos!
I still have two boxes of newborns so gonna have to take them back and hope that they swap them over!
Ferals finally settled down around 9.30ish. Levi slept from 7.30 till 1.45am- too bad i didnt take advantage of it and go to sleep myself! and then fed again at 3.45 and then 6.45 so that was pretty good!
Ali -bubs gets heaps more when she feeds off you, than when you express- so the fact that you got 50mls is great- you have plenty of milk!
Its surprising how efficient our bodies are in making milk as bubs needs it! Just let nature take its course and whilst there are wet nappies- bubs is getting enough!!!!
Glad the boobs are starting to settle down! phew!
Grr Ellie on the day/nite confusion- its hard when they do that! At nite we keep distractions to a minium, I keep Levi wrapped, change his nappy before his feed and the lights stay low. During the day he isnt wrapped when he sleeps, blind and lights are on, and I change his nappy when ever it needs it - so these cues help Levi tell the difference between day and nite! We also have a swing so if he decided to party at nite, my plan is to chuck him in the swing and sleep next to it on the couch- lol!
Megiemoppit- Levi sometimes is on for 10 mins and sometimes on for 30 mins- depends! He starts to get ****ed when it doesnt come out quick enough for him and starts hitting and pulling at my boob- lol the noises he makes are soo funny!
Levi is awake again
time to go
mwah
Well we have day/ night pretty sorted here but noticed Em really doesn't sleep that much. She sort of naps and has alot awake time and gets cranky if she is not being held, think my hug a bub will be very handy when it arrives.
Det- wow at going into 00! I remember Ash didn't til she was like 3-4 months old! Thats great. Good you being so far ahead we can see there is light at end of the tunnel.
Ellie- Like Det said we did similar to teach Em, during night everything is quiet, no talking, dim light then in day she sleeps downstairs in lounge with us going about our usual business, blinds open, chat to her. Also change her nappies after a feed in day and at night I do it between sides.
Nai- I've not heard of the Aldiri bottles, do you just buy at chemist? We were never able to give Ash a bottle til she was about 9 months old, I really hope Em will take one cause was very hard not being able to leave her to have a break.
Meg- That'll be handy to have your sister around and keep you company too. Hows it going with 2 again?
Ali- Hope she sorts out her unsettled time, thats the worse time to have it I think! Early nights for you for awhile I think, and try nap in the day once she is asleep, forget housework and all that, rest!
AJP- Good luck tomor, its not so bad, only prob I find is when they both wake at same time and you gotta feed bubs while toddler is waiting to get dressed and fed themselves.
Took Ash to playschool concert today, think it was nice to do something just mummy and Ash, told her its just for big girls and Emily can't come cause she is just a baby. Ash seemed to enjoy herself.
LOL Levi just finished feeding off me for an hour straight!!!
He then gooed and gaad at me for 10 mins and is now asleep in his cot- lol
Man its hard work being a baby
shell were going on saturday!! cant wait, sophie loved it last year!!
det an hour :o wow !!!
just had some newborn shots done today by a lovely BB member, cant wait to see them!