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Well Orson has not wanted me to put him down since about 7am Saturday. The only time he has really slept was yesterday morning for about 2 hours. I'm buggered! I wonder what is going on with him this is not like him at all. He is usually a great sleeper.
Good day ladies!
Antheia you poor thing! Hope you get a good nap in today or hopefully Orson will be good for you tonight:pray:
Blip thats great Darren slept a whole night in his bassinet! Im envious... as much as I love the easy'ness of co-sleeping with being able to latch Winter on and go back to sleep i DREAM of just being able to hog the bed like I always have in the past. Im procrastinating about getting her into her cot because I know its going to mean way less sleep for me, but it has to be done sooner than later.
How did Olivers check up go today Sterla? OH MY GOD 8 hrs you lucky thing! How wicked good is that?!
I know everyone always says it, how fast they grow up but seriously its not untill you pass a newborn in the shops that you go 'far out, where did the time go?' Winter's cousin Jack is 5 weeks younger and you can really notice the difference when they are next to each other.
Today is so good, DP looked after us all day yesterday so the house is spotless and my Mum just left, Winter is asleep and I have Mummy time :dance:
Oh I love late night rage! So much random music, cant remember the last time I was up that late though...
Blip: Wow, Darren must be really long! What a good growing boy! :) I know what you mean about different stores and brands having different sizing. Oliver isn't quite into 00s, but it won't be too much longer. His Bonds Wondersuits leave almost no room for him to move his legs. It always seems to be length they outgrow, doesn't it?
I'm glad you talked to your DH about how you're feeling - I hope it helped.
Antheia: Oh you poor thing! I wonder what was going on? Maybe like blip said he's having a growth spurt? Is he over his cold yet? If not, maybe he just wasn't feeling well and wanted hugs from his mummy? I hope you both managed to get some sleep.
Jords: They do grow so fast, don't they! Oliver is really starting to get heavy to hold - rocking him to sleep is turning in to a real work out!
AFM: Well, I was having a fantastic day until my child health clinic check-up. Oliver was all happy and smiley. I gave him a bath, which he loved... and because he was having a good day, I was having a good day. Then the child health nurse managed to crush my spirit and make me feel like I'm a bad mother. Now, as a warning - let me tell you that I do not have a thick skin at all - I have thin, thin skin and get upset by things when I probably shouldn't... so this is probably a complete over-reaction.
The child health nurse was a different one to the ones we've been seeing. I guess outwardly she was nice, but what upset me was more the way she said things and the way she looked at me.
We went in, and she asked feeding was going. I said good, but mentioned that I'm still using nipple shields and wondered whether it was worth seeing a LC to try and get rid of them. She said it was and gave me a phone number... fine.
We weighed and measured Oliver which was all fine too.
Then she started asking me (or should I say grilling) on my parenting... "Have you been giving him tummy time?" "Have you been reading to him?" "Have you been putting him down awake to sleep?" I answered each, but each of my answers didn't seem to be good enough. Yes, I do give him tummy time - but not enough it seems according to her. Yes, I do read to him, but apparently I should be reading to him 3-4 times a day! Yes, I do put him down to sleep awake - not wide awake, he's usually sleepy, and he does go back to sleep himself if he wakes up during the night and isn't hungry... but that wasn't a good enough answer either. She didn't come right out and say she thought I was incompetent, but it was certainly implied.
Then, after Oliver was dressed he started getting upset so I started bouncing him the way he likes. I do it all the time and it really helps him calm down. By no means is it anything too rough or that I would class as 'shaking', but the child health nurse looked at me and said "Don't do that, pat him on the back instead'. So I did, but even the way I patted him on the back wasn't good enough. She told me to pat him quicker and softer... so nothing I do is right apparently! I haven't sat at home doing parenting research - I've been feeling my way through motherhood and working out what is right for us. I thought I was doing okay, but she made me completely question everything. Am I a good mother? I don't know anymore. I left feeling completely deflated :(.
Oh, and it's so annoying that she upset me like this too, because in amongst all this Oliver had a really good check-up which I'd like to be happy about. He's gained 480g and grown 2cm in two weeks, so he's now 5.6kg and 60cm long.
I'm sorry about all this petty complaining, especially when this really is nothing compared to what you've been through Blip. I just really needed to vent.
Sterla hun, the fact that Oliver had a good check up means you are a great mother! Forget that so and so MCHN. You are doing a wonderful job parenting Oliver.
Can i just say, reading 3-4 times a day? WTF? I don't read to Orson at all just yet. I have 2 other children to entertain. I know Oliver is your only right now but geez, that woman needs to get a grip! He's 2mths old FFS. A nice bed time story is good but othe than that he doesnt need it. Sounds liek she wants you to turn Oliver into some super kid that knows everything by the time he is 1! Off my soap box now, haha!
He doesnt need that much tummy time either. Give him a little bit after each nappy change for a minute or two is enough for now.
And i bounce Orson up and down on my knee too. Nothing wrong with it at all.
:hug: Hope things go well with the LC.
Anthiea- hows Orson doing today? i hope you got some sleep!
Jords - im slowly stopping the Co-sleeping becuase i feel darren is 'fatterning up' and can keep warm. but once he's big enough DH has said that he can sleep in our bed after his first feed on saterday/sunday mornings! its a strange feeling not having daz in bed with me though
sterla honey - that women needs a melly bashing. full stop. i've been though alot, but one thing i can and will stand ferm on - DO WHAT YOU KNOW WORKS AND FEELS RIGHT. that women has seen him ONCE and seen you ONCE she knows NOTHING! ok? you're not over reacting i think thats a normal reaction (and over reaction is telling her to bugger off as i've said to a few nurses already!) your working out how to be a mother and what may 'clinicly' work for this MCHN may not work for you at all! as for tummy time some babies HATE it, what'd say to them? 'let them scream' i think bloody well not (can you tell i've got a bee in my bonett? :hide: lol) you are doing the best for you and your son. as a mother, a women a human being. you know your son the best (hello you spent nine months growing him!) dont let her bring you down becuase what you're doing is far from wrong or not good enough. your son is growing and is happy- thats what counts! trust me. you're doing good if Oli can be put down semi awake - i still cant do that with daz. but hey, each babys differant! dont doubt your self you're doing really good..forget what she said and let karma bite her bum. :comfort: just rember "mummie knows best"
AFM: daz has been a acheeky little man today. didnt sleep from 9am untill 2pm! (with two feeds in there lol) but is now alseep...he woke up when his dummy popped out of his mouth but thats all! woo. now i need to go and finish the dishes! hope every one is having a good day!
Argh what a biarch of a nurse!!! I hope your feeling better soon Sterla. Your definately doing things right 5.6kg and 60cm?? Woohoo!
How frustrating though! Bah! :hug: Sheesh I would have failed her test....tummy time everyday? ummm:redface: put down to sleep? eeeep, does feeding to sleep count? Reading? aaahhh, once :)
Dont stress hun,your doing a great job!
Thanks girls - you've helped :) :hug:.
Now, off to the supermarket... hopefully that will help clear my head and lift my mood.
'ello ladies, how are we?
I had my pap done and it wasnt too bad, just annoying! but my GP made me want to cry becuase i asked for motilium and he looked it up and said no because its not what its for! then told me "just drink more water" i almost cried! i'm having a down day as it is. so i just called the LC from the hospital and im waiting for them to call back. but GAH. drink more water. how the hell is is possable for me to drink more then 1.25lt between feeds? i duno...i hope the LC calls back soon!
hope every one is having a good day!
Bloody hell, what is it with our group and stupid doctors and nurses??? That sucks Blip. Is there anyway you could see a different doctor?
i could but i get the feeling the ones at rhe GP clinic i see would look it up and i'd get the same responce. its the last thing i needed that for sure
:hug: I wish I could say or do something to make you feel better. Maybe a completely different practice? Sometimes dodgy doctors who dont delve deep enough can be helpful (like when you need a certificate for a sickie). Hopefully it works out soon. Jeez you must be drinking heaps of water btw!
Firstly I just want to say thank you again for being so great yesterday. I feel so much better today. :hug: It's so nice to know I have you girls here for support!
:hug: Blip: Sorry you had to put up with that cruddy doctor! You're already doing everything you can other than this motilium to keep your supply up - why should the doctor stop you from trying one more thing? It sucks, especially when you're already having a down day :hug:. I hope you have more luck with the LC.
I know Jords - we don't seem to have much luck with 'professionals' around here.
Though, I actually had some luck this morning. The LC I called after my bad visit to the MCHN (grrr) called back this morning, and we talked over the phone. I explained to her the situation with the nipple shields and how the MCHN said I should stop using them. The LC was so nice - telling me that Oliver sounds like such a happy, healthy baby, and that we'll give weaning Oliver off the nipple shields a go, but if it doesn't, that's okay too. She just made me feel like I was doing a good job - the complete opposite to that silly MCHN.
Oliver is keeping up his great sleeps. He slept 9 hours through the night! :o
Jords - thats the thing. this GP would write me a sickie note up hes done it for me in the past. he just *had* to look it up! as for the water - yeah i am drinking alot. i bought a whole lot of 'vita fresh' which is like cordial but no colour to make it worth drinking it!
Jords & sterla - :hugs: thank-you. i just hit the proverbal wall.
sterla - im glad the LC made you feel better! they're good at doing that. as for the nipple sheald. do what works and just think of it this way "its a detachable nipple" thats how i thought of it. or mini madona boob cones! ;)
AFM: i got a call back from the LC clinic at the hospital. im seeing one i saw before daz got admited to hospital again next thursday. she'll be able to help me out. she even said that there where drugs to help with supply. but as of right now im drinking 1.25lt of water between feeds (or near enough to) taking 2 tablets of furngeek two to three times a day PLUS sustgin in the morning! and attempting to eat more...im not sure what else i can do! hopefully next week i'll have some help!
thank you ladies, i dont know what i'd do with out you all! :hugs:
Blip, go to a female GP they may be more helpful, Hope you have more luck with the LC. :hug:
Sterla, glad the LC made you feel better and can help you. :hug: for you too.
Morning Ladies!
Im glad things are better Sterla, it sucks that it can only take one person to make you feel inadequate sometimes. Thank goodness most midwives are great! Glad the LC was nicer. Stoopid nurse :) Im so stoked for you and Oliver with his 9 hour sleep!!! Is he in a bassinet or in his own room? I dream of 9 hrs sleep!
Blip- Hang in there, your doing a damn fine job by the sounds of it. Fingers crossed for your appt next week. :pray: Hope little Darren is good*
How are you and Orson Antheia? He's giving you a bit more rest hopefully.
Where is the rest of our group?? Maybe I'm too addicted :)
So we had a shocker of a night last night...dont think we were asleep before 11.. and I went to bed at 9. We are getting over our colds pretty quickly but Winter has been a bit stuffy poor Bub.
Good news, the radiator in our car is buggered, DP only just made it to work this morning, bah! :( Apart from that there isnt much else going on, OH I gave milk guns a go in the shower last night heehee I got about 10cm! Then insisted on calling DP in to see, he wasn't impressed. heheh
Hey Jords! Yeah, our group can get a bit quiet at times. I'm a bit BB obsessed - I'm pretty sure I'm log on every day, and usually much more than once a day!
Oliver had another great sleep last night 8.5 hours! He sleeps in his bassinet in our bedroom next to my side of the bed. He sleeps really well in the bassinet, but we're going to have to start getting him used to his cot, cause he's almost outgrown the bassinet!
Lol about milk guns! :rofl:
I'm heading out this afternoon with a pramwalking group. Should be interesting, and hopefully a good way of meeting some new mums.
Hope everyone is doing well :).
How truly addictive is BB?! Last week or the week before when it was down for the day I went hunting for other baby sights for forums to get my kick but they were sooo crap! DP was saying last night he thinks ive joined a cult lol. Its so good though to just have other Mums to chat to, I dearly love all my friends IRL but all of them workk full time and only one of them has a Bub and she works too!
Pramwalking sounds sweet, how did you find that? I hate our pram, cos Winter is always in the sling we have only used it twice but it was given to us and the wheels are worn, I want to buy a new one but DP thinks its a waste of money because we hardly use it.... Im gonna fight him on that one I think, esp as she is way too fat for the sling these days :)
Go Oliver! What a little champion! Hopefully the transition to cot goes smooth :)
Man...I had not been getting emails and just realised how much I have missed on!!!
I'll give a quick update on me first and then do personals..I also had a "great" experience with the EC nurse...NOT when we went to Sammy's 9 week check last Thursday. First it appears Sam had not been putting on a lot of weight over the last 2 weeks ( only 200g) but she is still very happy and was settling well and sleeping through the night like she has been for ages. She had dropped on the percentile chart as well. I then had a look only to discover that the chart she was looking at was the boys chart not the girls which made a huge difference in the percentile drop...Anyway, I asked if the fact she had her shots had anything to do with it as she was kinda off for a few days and wasn't feeding as well. She said flat out..NO. its got nothing to do with it. Why couldn't it be...we don't eat as much when we are sick, so why shouldn't baby be like that as well??? She then told me of babies "hibernating" to conserve their energies and thats why the sometimes sleep a lot. I got drilled on the same questions re tummy time etc but we seemed to have passed the test. She went back through my notes and asked me why I had stopped expressing after each feed as she had recommended when we had our very first visit with her ( home visit) I said that we had monitored her weight gains over the next 2 weeks and that she was gaining fine ( she had actually made a mistake originally and added the figures wrong, Sam's weight gain was actually 160 and not 80 like she told me) So she said, to start expressing again every alternate feed or every feed I can. I walked out of there a bit shattered and was soo worried that she wasn't getting enough food. DH kept saying, don't take it personal and kept saying to me that I am not a failure for not having enough milk and not stress about it, but the men just don't understand how it feels to be told that your baby is not getting enough when you are the only food source for them. We went and got her checked yesterday and she had put on 130g in 5 days which means she is on the road to recovery. YAY!!!!!!!!! The LC I saw yesterday basically told me that Sammy is doing fine and seems like a happy child (which she is) and that she is just probably plateau'ing a bit and her gain although slow is still a gain and that she was very happy with the way things were going. It was such a relief... I know that they have to tell us these things but you would think they would be a bit more subltle and nice about it, especially for 1st time mums!
MG is going great and the "dr's visit is being postponed to today, the nurse actually gave us a nice trick which has worked GREAT on Sammy for tummy time as she hated it and got very frustrated quickly, roll a small towel (like a bath mat) and pout it under her chest with her arms over it, it give them additional support and tummy time is now fun time for Sammy and last 3 times as what it used to last. Also put something of interest , like a favorite toy or something colourfulk for them to look at. WE have our 3rd meeting today again this arvo and its nice to get tips from other mums and see that we are all in the same boat. OK enough for me!!
BUMMER! Sammy just woke up, will do personals later this arvo, glad to see everyone is busy posting!!