Babies Born February 2007 #2

hey girls

thanks lisa - i am very proud of my boys - couldn't be happier! my bubba has gained heaps of weight, but i think that's because the nurses scared me when he had jaundice, by saying that i had to keep waking him to feed him, and not just letting him go to sleep - so i've kept doing that, when he probably doesn't need so much. good luck for harrison's weigh-in tomorrow - i'm sure he'll be fine - he certainly looks very healthy and lovely.

kel: my bub has been in the big bath for a couple of weeks now, but i cheat!! my 14year old hops in with him (in his board shorts so that i can be in the room too!). they have a bath together, and both love it, and it saves my back and knees. i found the baby bath was too small - he'd push off with his feet, and whack his head into the other end!:doh:

bub is sleeping in his cot for first time tonight (providing i can cope with not having him next to me!!) - so keep your fingers crossed for me that he'll sleep right through :crossfingers: he napped in it today really well - longer than normal, so maybe the bassinette was too small for him?

Hey Ryn
I finally got around to reading your birth story.... you went through heaps! Sounds like everything happened because it had to... Liebling really didnt want to come out... you are lucky they didnt give you a c-section, at least you got to experience some birthcanal action! I am jealous of the ladies who got a vaginal birth! You said "As you say, you do what you have to in order to save your child's life, but it doesn't make it better in the long run." I think it does make it better... what IF Liebling hadnt made it any further than the middle of the birth canal?? what if he didnt' make it??? in the long run you have to be just grateful you got to take your baby home...??
I understand how you beat yourself up about it as you so so so wahted a natural birth, and I was so sorry to hear you didnt get it, but looking at the photos of your little boy you have been truley blessed!
You have to move on and hope for better next time... at least you have more of an idea of what to expect and maybe what to expect from your body.... you are not going to be doing Liebling any favours by being upset inside about how he came into the world...
I beat myself up lots thinking I cheated and I was cheating by the c-section, definately doesnt feel like an easy way out, I still hurt heaps inside when I do different things I have friends and 9 months later still hurt and an aunty 5 years later still numb in some spots!
So you just have to look at your baby and think about what a miracle he is and that you made him and now you get to raise him into a unique and special person, the labour/birth is just one day (or in your case a week of prelabour hell!) in the grand scheme of things and that you were very strong throughout it all and did what you had to do to be a good Mum from the start and give your little boy what he needed to be born.

Ryn and Smylie, I can relate to both of you about your feelings about your birth experiences. I too have struggled with my birth experience - even though we have our delightful and beautiful babies, it can be difficult to accept or deal with the birth experience we faced. I haven't made my experience public for various reasons including my pain, fear of being judged and a few others. I too feel cheated by what I experienced and, as much as I try not to, do harbour some resentment towards the staff at the hospital. Not so much for WHAT happened but HOW it happened. My ob knows full well I was open to a c-sect but the way in which I was TOLD and how things were handled was appalling and a major contributor towards me going into shock which saw the anethetist dose me up on sedatives immediately after Abbey was wheeled from theatre in an effort to reduce my trauma... except it made my trauma worse! I am not happy I lost over 2 hours of the day my little girl was born! But anyway, girls, I CAN relate to how you're feeling. I can't offer too much advice other than what is working for me... focusing on the good bits like my baby and I are both alive, my baby and I are healthy (ok, she is, I'm still dealing with bits and pieces!), I can have more babies, next time I will be better prepared for the potential of what happened happening again and better equipped to deal with it, I have received an apology from my Ob. If you are struggling to deal with your own experiences, I highly recommend debriefing with someone. I have debriefed with my MCHN and a couple of friends (some nurses) and it helped a lot. I have also been working on writing my experience down. I have also used my experience as a learning experience - how NOT to act as a nurse! ROFL.

Kristy, great to hear you're doing well hon. I can relate to the long legs - Abbey seems to be out grwing stuff in leg length before anything else! And her feet! My goodness they are huge!!!!

anne - good luck for tonight hon - maybe do the reverse of what we do for bubs and pop whatever they wore today under your pillow tonight? ;)

Lil - those bonds wondersuits are small aren't they? I don't understand that claim on length and weight either... it's a shame because i love abbey in them and hers no longer fit! ROFL. I'm so glad you're doing well too hon. I have a question for yo but it is a tad personal so might have to email you ;)

Hope everyone is well. Abbey is calling so had better go...

Love MG

Hindsight is a wonderful thing! If I had known when I got to the hospital at 9.30am that at 4pm I would give in to an epidural and at 7pm I would be told I was having a c-section I would have just got the epidural at 10am and got them to chop me up then and there, and get my Saturday back and maybe even a bit of sleep! I didnt get out of recovery for ages due to my blood pressure and temp and then I got no sleep all night then I had one hours sleep I think and then visitors until Jem was about 4 weeks... then I had a nap (and got woken up because of a visitor!)
The only way I am coping with my birth experience is by looking at Jem and trying NOT to imagine what if...

OK, I have to tell you all something: babies with mustaches are gorgeous. Addams Family Values was on TV last night, just for long enough for me to recall that Pubert is the cutest baby ever... so guess who grabbed her old eye-liner pencil for Liebling this morning? Babies with mustaches rock! (Let me know if you want to see the pics - Liebling is cuter than Pubert.)

Anne, glad that DS isn't the only one in 00 - he was in 0000 for just over 2 weeks too, but has only been in 00 a week now. So glad we had some in ready, just can't believe I am going to have to buy some 0-size trousers and vests today (well, he'll need them at some point, he won't stay 2ft tall forever).

Lil and Kel, I fear for your babies' poos. DS does just one giant one a day, with a smallish one before bedtime, and that's horrific enough. Maybe your breastmilk is "better" than mine though and produces less waste.

Right, he's awake and wanting me, hi and waves to everyone else, I'll come back later if I can!

WE HAVE POO!!!
Went to paedricitian 6 week check up today, and got to ask all about poo.
(Kirsten are you there, was thinking of you today)
Anyhow 10 days without a poo for breastfed babies is perfectly ok, he had never heard of 3 weeks
Jemima had not had a poo since saturday or sunday week before last so I think we were on 10 or 11.... so I was very worried about when and where it was coming....
IT WAS HUGE AND IT LOOKED LIKE THICK PUMPKIN SOUP (kinda creamy I saw one or two chunks of something dont know what, not going to think about it)
I am so glad we were at home it completly filled her nappy and came up onto her back and on her belly and in her jumpsuit.... I think it didnt go down legs though and I didnt cop it!
She didn't cry she just slowly let it out while I was feeding her... she is such a lovely baby doesnt cry for things I would cry about....

Also at the baby doc (I just cant spell paedercritian...??grr) she was 60cm long and weighed 5420grams. Which is heavy but then she has the "height" to get away with it.

Jemima was never in 0000 she was born and had baggy 000 she was too long at birth for 0000 she is too long and getting too tubby for 000 her feet have never fit in 000 all the jumpsuits have since we brought her home made her toes curl so i love the suits with no feet and she has to wear big socks problem there was she had newborn ankles but 3 month old feet so socks were always falling off, she fits 3 month socks good now that she has more meat on her legs.... she has been in 00 for a while perfect for her length some brands but baggy..... she is always going to fun to buy for I can tell! She is a tubby bubby if you ask me but doc says she wont be fat. Her feet were the same size at birth as Benji's were when he was born (his mum measured his on her middle finger and did the same for Jemima) and he is 6 foot 4 so who knows Jemima may be a model or a really nice person who gets things off high shelves for people!

I am now wondering if I have to wait another 10ish days for a poo or if they will be regular now???
Lil he said if I was worried and it didnt come soon to go to chemist and get some dispositries (??) and you put them up bub's bottom and the poo comes straight out... that sounds gross and messy but I would have tried it if nothing by Sunday I think.
Only today did I think she was starting to be a little uncomfortable so I think she knew today was the day... lots smellier too.....

Ryn I'd love to see your pubert! benjiandkel@optusnet.com.au that sounds so so so cute!

Kel,,, Griffen let rip yesterday lol,,,, right as my best friends were comming over, and he was in his fisher price linkadoos vibrating rocker,,, so maybe the vibrations worked it out?? lol.
Anyway,, it was also like slightly thickish pumpkin soup,, no chunks or anything,,, but MASSES of it. He got it up to his boobs,, and down to his knees even in his huggies (although he is still in the newborn size though lol. through the suit, and all over his rocker,, so i had to soak the seat, at least it dried overnight on my clothes wire airer.
He is still tooting like mad though and the smell rivals my hubby lol.

Ryn - dont think for a minute hun that your milk is not as "good" as Kels or mine,,,,that is simply not true,, just look as how beautifully Samuel is growing hun!! he is gorgeous!!. Your milk is absolutely perfect for him!!
I think maybe the poos thing is just as individual as each baby is.
Anne - i took a peak at Cameron's site,, and he is an angel :), looks like he has one proud big brother there too :), you shouldnt worry about your MIL's opinion,, because in the scheme of things,, it means absolutely nothing,,, only your family matters, be proud of your sons,,,,,,, they mean everything afterall :) :hugs:

MG - I looked at your site too hun,, and Abbey is looking brilliant!! Her skin like griffens looks to have cleared up HEAPS,,, although she has more hair than him now lol,, most of his is gone,, especially on top lol.
*sigh* poor boy,, already hit with male pattern balding, and looks a bit like Friar Tuck lol
You can email me anytime about anything hun,, nothing is too personal, so just ask away

Well girls,,, still havent gotten anywhere with the christening arrangements,,,,, and to top it all off, we found out by our real estate today that the landlords are comming around the day before the christening to do an inspection etc,,,,, just what i needed NOT!!

Ok,,,, I best get off and try and get a little sleep before Griffen wakes up,,, he usually wakes around 1am,,, then again about 5am,,, so not too bad

Love Lil

Morning ladies,
How are you all?

Thanks for thinking of me when Jem let her poo rip - I would have loved to see that! Quinn seems to do massive poos anyway and they almost always green, I am thinking I may eat too many veggies! I like to call them Ninja turtle poos :D

You people talk a lot - it's taken me a while just to read and catch up on what's going on.

To all the ladies who are having issues with their births, I don't understand what you had to go through or how you feel but you all make me feel incredibly lucky that I had a lovely birth. I don't think there is anything I can say that will make anyone feel any better, but you are all champions for doing what was best for your babies and yourselves at the time. There is so much pressure put on women these days to have their babies a certain way - to mother a certain way (especially with breastfeeding) and people are made to feel guilty if things don't work out the way they wanted them to. And everyone - even strangers on the street have an opinion on how you should raise your child! Which I find very offensive - I had a lady stop me on the street and tell me that I better be having another baby soon because you can't just have one! Quinn isn't even 10 weeks old yet!!!! Whose business is it anyway?

OK that's me off my soapbox now :)

Hope you are all really well - time for me to go Quinn wants to play and then it's off to the Chiro for us :D yippee!

bye

Hey Ladies,

I'm sorry, you girls just totally lost me over the Easter weekend! I'll read all the posts & catch up just as soon as I can!

Claudia & I had our 6 week check ups today. Claudia weighs in at a hefty 5.5kg & she's 55cm long. I nearly died! Jessica was only 5.2kg @ 11w!!! wowsers!

Also, he talked to me in length about contraception...... For those of you who are having a break from pregnancy (LOL), what are you all doing? I am thinking of going for the rod in my arm? What do you all think?

Love Jayne xox

This is just a quicky as Bella's on my lap and won't go to sleep even though she's tired!

Jayne - I had the rod thingy for around 18 months and for the first 12 months it was fantastic. After that though, I got really depressed and DH told me to get it out, saying "he wanted the old me back". As soon as it was out, I was back to normal. It was really wierd. I just felt down and sad all the time towards the end. I've heard others who have had no problems whatsoever as well, so I think everyone's just different. The beauty of it is that if you do have a bad reaction, then once it's taken back out the symptoms go straight away, unlike the needle. Also, I put on a fair bit of weight too - could have been that I'd just hit 30, or it could be the rod. I did need to put the weight on, so it wasn't an issue for me.

For those who are unhappy or disappointed with the the birth of their babies, all I can say is that you did what you had to do at the time, all in the best interest for you and your baby. The most important thing is that both you and your bub are happy and healthy and you did what any good mother would do in that situation. My first daughter's birth was a bit of a horror (posterior bub, ventouse, 2nd degree tear and a lovely haemorroid to boot!), and at the time I wished it could have been better, but she's now 9 and is happy and healthy - more than I could ever ask for. I beat myself up about the b/f thing with both of my daughters too, but soon realised that doing that was not doing them (or myself) any good. I should just be grateful that she is happy, and thriving. Many women aren't so lucky as to give birth to a live, healthy baby (my SIL is an example) so I should be very thankful for how things are.

Again, no personals sorry!!! We went out today and bought some baby panadole ready for tomorrow's needles. I am so not looking forward to it. Will post afterwards, all going well!

Got to go - Bella needs me!

Impatient - BOL with Bella's needles tomorrow. I really hope that they go as well as they possibly can. Let us know how she goes. I just booked Claudia's in for 2 weeks time. I'm already dreading that.

Thanks for the info about the rod. I can't afford to put any weight on, I have 20kg already to lose!! LOL. I was kinda leaning towards the rod though, for the simple fact is that I can have it removed if it doesn't agree with my body. The injection that you can have lasts 3 months but can't be reversed if you don't take to it & I definitely don't want that new coil thing inserted. I was conceived while my mum had a IUD fitted & I actually grew on it & have a lovely purple mark still on the inside of my elbow. I don't think the idea of something foreign living 'up' there anyway!

Love Jayne xox

just another quickie...

DS's poo has chunks in, is usually orange but sometimes a bit greeny. Kirsten, I'm glad there's more green BF poo out there!

Contraception - DH is in charge of remembering to wear something, not that it's an issue right now as he's always "too tired". Bah, he didn't wake up last night and only once the night before (for me, 2 and 6 - DS now wakes up before midnight to come into my bed, then about 2ish for a feed, then we get up after 6.30 when he wakes - only a few nights he wakes every hour or so), I'm constantly tired and he thinks I'm on some sort of holiday. I can't nap in the day as the second I put DS down he wakes up and co-sleeping on the sofa is Bad. Anyway, I want another baby so don't want anything long-lasting.

Birth - I really didn't need the epidural (well, maybe for the hand, but that's another story) and I really wish I'd ripped the monitor off. I don't mind the ventouse or synctoin so much, just the fact that I knew certain drugs could kill DS and took them anyway. And he wasn't breathing when he was born, just like what happens to his daddy when he has anasthesia.

Feet - DS has grown out of some 1-year-old socks! I know pumpkin patch errs on the small side, but even so! He's going to be nice and big like his Mummy - who has feet so big she was surprised that she could wear girls' trainers forthe first time since she was 12 yesterday! (Yay, I finally have pink trainers!)

Hi girls :hello:

In regards to contraception, atm, DH is taking charge in that dept, but I am seriously considering getting fitted for a diaphragm... anyone used one before?
I have heard when used correctly, they can be very effective. I fell pregnant with James whilst on the pill (thanks to a tummy bug!) and I have had big side effects on 5 different types of pill, so I can't use most hormone based contraceptives effectively anyway.

hey girls

BFing, so must be brief:

me: minipill.(and BFing). did you all hear about that new ring, that is inserted - sounds ok?

cam was ok with needles - just did the cutest cry after each one . i bought panadol, but he hated the taste - and wouldn't swallow it - kept coughing. nurofen supposed to taste better, but can only have from 3 months?

Jemima has her needles on Monday, I have booked her in to my normal doctor not the clinic as it is being dodgy and refurbishing and stuff like that at the moment and the nurses I get at the clinic are always so dozey..... the one I had last time was the same one i had had 2 weeks before that and she was telling me how 2 weeks ago she had seen a baby named Jemima and then told me exactly the same Jemima stories as she had 2 weeks before and she always asked me what i wanted to do... so I was like "how about we weigh her??" hmmmm I guess you get what you pay for sometimes...

The babydoc said that only 5% of babies have problems with the needles, 95% of them get over it straight away so panadol and all those things are really not necessary, so I am hoping Jem is in that awesome 95%...

Contraception as you know I am not wanting anything and hopeing breastfeeding is not a powerful contraceptive for me but if I was not I would be going the minipill too, so Lisa I dont know about rings or anything I always had friends that did well with the injection I had one friend that had one that worked for 3 years.... I could never do that as I do too much and cant plan 3 years in advance....

Jemima slept in today, must have not had enough little naps yesterday, so today rather than waking me at 5.30 it was 6.30am, she puts herself to bed just before 8pm so I am loving this! I even went to bed not too late myself so we are about to go for our walk that had been getting later and later (I had been getting her to sleep with me after morning feed until just before 9am heheheeh I am remembering that I am not a morning person.... so I will try and get her in the same mindframe...)

Have a great Thursday everyone.... I have an exciting day including a trip to medicare and tonight my neighbour will be over to do my nails - asian nail art $5 for fingers $5 for toes BARGAIN - and I have taped "medium" from last night to watch, I did all the washing yesterday so I could if I wanted iron it I guess....... then just go through the gazillion baby, puppy or trip photos I have to sort.... WHAT A LIFE (oh and teach princess the letter "A" seems like it will be the next easiest letter after "O" which is so cute to watch her say!) (her Daddy thinks the vowels are very important)

oh yeah, Ryn, my SIL's baby Hannah has bright green poo and she is breastfed and has a poo everyday I think as well.... Jemima had another pumpkin soup one yesterday morning and I have a feeling when I go change her now it will be pumpkin soup as well as I heard interesting noises when I was feeding her so maybe I am up for pumpkin soup poos everyday?? UPDATE no pumpkin souptoday so maybe yesterday was left over from night before.... i cant believe my life is revolving around poo!

Kell - Harry was fine after his needles... he was a bit grumpy and sore where it went in, it was difficult to hold him whilst BF as they were on both upper thighs and he is usually laying on his side whilst feeding... so I would hurt his poor little legs... So we fed in bed and that seemed to work for us, then the next day his legs seemed less sore so it was easier. We didn't use panadol or anything. My nephew Taj gets sick and grumpy for days after the Pneumococcal needle, apparently a lot of kids do.
BOL for everyone who's bubbas are having needles soon :grouphug:

Hmmm, after the contraception talk, I'm keen for DH just to take care of it! I don't like the idea of the mini-pill as apparently there is only a 3 hour window for error & the needle can have reactions that can't be reversed & I'm not a fan of the new coil or the injection.

LISA _ Great to hear that Harry went well after his needles! What a good brave boy you've got. So adorable about the sore little leggies. That's something I didn't think about.

SMYLIE _ I love hearing you gush!!! You're so gorgeous. Jemima sounds like such a dream bub. With her sleeping so well @ night, does she sleep much during the day or just cat-naps? I find Claudia catnaps during the day if we are out & about but at home she sleeps very solidly so I'm trying not to go out as much as I initially was.

ANNE _ I keep Nurofen for my bubs, I could never get Jess to swallow the Panadol becaue it taste like nail polish remover. Nurofen goes down much easier & I think they have a Nurofen now that they can take from 4 weeks. I haven't tried it with Claudia yet, I have been tossing up whether to give her a dose before the needles but she has never had anything foreign go down her throat yet, so I don't want to start IKWIM?

RYN _ WTG on the girlie runners! PMSL! I too get Orange poos but sometimes they are almost fluroscent! They are chunky too. Isn't it funny how we study their poos so intently! LOL. Please dont' think I'm stupid, but is Liebling the real name of your bub? I think I remember reading somewhere before that it was his pet name while you were pg but I can't for the life of me remember. Call it baby brain! LOL.

Big hellos to everybody & big smiles & kisses for all your gorgeous bubs.

OH yeah, I forgot to say, who is still wrapping their bubs for sleep? Claudia is big on the wrapping, I'm starting to loosen her off when she's in the hammock but she won't settle unless she's wrapped & at night she is fussy as until I wrap her, put her on the breast & then she drifts off to dream-land.

heheeheheh
yep Ryn's baby's name is Liebling.... heheheehe no it's not but I'll let her tell you, actually Ryn on the topic of your baby names.... WHAT WAS YOUR GIRL'S NAME??? can you tell us now??? pretty please???

Hello Jayne... I can be pretty full on sometimes and have only email and bellybelly as my contact with outside world somedays so you all get to hear about everything...! Jemima has cat naps during the day mostly but usually in the middle of the day has at least 3 to 5 hours sleep as well not usually in her bassinette or cot though so it may not be deep sleep which may explain why she is happy to be in her bassinette ALL night she kept me and benji up the other night though not crying or wanting us just sucking really loudly on her fingers... it sounded like she was swallowing her fist... she only sucks on her fingers (and doesnt suck anything else not fingers or blankets or anything) when she is hungry so i was going to feed her as soon as she made some kind of noise that indicated she wanted me to feed her (otherwise I was not going to volunteer at midnight as then she may have thought it was something that was cool to do....) (and i have already told her how cool it is that she entertains herself at nighttime.... and that when the suns comes up we can play again.... and we kinda wrap her up when she sleeps not her arms she never kept them in anyhow just the lower half of her to keep her kinda snuggly, pretty sure she would sleep without it but in the bassinette we may as well as there is not alot of room for normal blanket/sheet type set up, she is almost in the cot but benji likes her in our room ho hum (even with the baby monitor now) MAYBE i'll move the bassinette right now so that when we put her to bed tonight she will be in the nursery!

Lisa how is Harry's weight now?? Do they know why he isnt gaining that much weight? My friends baby was the same but as soon as they got her to express and formula top up he put on 500grams in one week! she just kept expressing til she ran out of milk... i think today is the day she is stopping expressing forever and just doing formula... her baby was born on same day as Jemima.... Love harry's stripey outfit in your photo... I love the stripey outfits, Jemima has 2 one red and white (it is the where's wally outfit i bought her at 26wks pregnant) and one i got off ebay wont fit for long as it is size smaller than where's wally but it is purple and dark purple striped and so cool looks so funky with her purple ugboots...

Kel - They have no idea why Harry isn't gaining huge amounts...other than a slow start because of his tongue tie, and because he is "genetically small", there is really no reason why he isn't gaing big amounts. He gained 110g in 6 days the other day... thats a huge gain for Harry. I have been asked if I would like to comp with formula, but I have said no... I know what will end up happening and he would end up FF and I don't want that. He and I both enjoy BF and it is so convenient... He is starting to want to feed alot more, and for longer without me having to wake him, so thats a good thing... we're aiming for a 200g weight gain for next week... fingers crossed

Hey Lisa
That is a huge gain - go Harrison! - Jemima only puts on 500grams a fortnight I think and she is a piggy wiggy with a mummy with too much milk - sounds like Harry is on the way to being piggy wiggy too! I'd avoid confusing him formula too if you can help it.

ps Ryn Pubert is amazingly adorable!

Hi girlies!

Well, I decided after DS slept all morning (his name isn't Liebling, but for security reasons I don't post his name or DH's name, only someone changed the title of my baby journal... as these threads are locked to members only I'll let you know his real name is Samuel John Henry!) he's just been tired at night. Lo and behold, we put him to bed an hour earlier and he slept. So DH and I have an extra hour together! DS is now awake, but happy in bed, so I'm leaving him there for now. He had to go back into his own bed this morning - fast asleep and kicking me out of bed (yup, kicking me out with his great big feet).

Thinking of names, we'll probably use this if we have a girl in the future as it took us over a year to agree to this, but it looks like it may be a bit popular now - I've seen a couple of people suggest it in the names forum in the last week - so I'll tell you. We were going to call our little girl Tabitha Zaidie Jane, but use Beth as a nickname as we didn't want her to be called Tabi. DH originally said no to Tabitha, but suggested it himself 3 months later so I said yes right away!

Jayne, I'm still swaddling Samuel, but when he comes into my bed (first sleep on his own, then we co-sleep) I use the wrap to catch any spew or dribbled milk... wraps are easier to wash than bedsheets! He is a Mr Wriggle-bum and unless you hold him or wrap him then his flailing limbs wake him up... usually because he hits himself in the face, daft lad!

Yay to all those girls whose babies were fine with the injections!

Kel, I have coffee mornings and mothers' groups and still write loads! I reckon it's great to share, I love knowing that everything's "normal" here - even if DS isn't sleeping through.

GTG, Liebs is wanting attention! See ya later!

Hello everyone. We've come through the injections relatively unscathed. They did the first two at the same time - the doctor and the nurse taking one leg each - then the doctor did the third needle. Isabella was NOT happy of course, and cried for about a minute.

Since then she's been really sleepy, waking up every now and then to have a feed and give us huge smiles. So she forgives me! Phew!

I've finally got around to getting Bella's site set up. I decided to just create a blog, as you will see from the link in my signature. Please let me know if it doesn't work - I've already made two attempts to get it right. (Thanks Kel for your help!).

Better go and see if Bella will go to bed - she's on the couch beside me, sound asleep.

Hey Ladies,

RYN _ Beautiful, beautiful names that you choose! How gorgeous. I knew a Tabitha once & she was just adorable. Yes, the wraps are great spew & dribble catchers aren't they? I tend to use mine as burp rags & then pop them in the wash, I have six million of them because Claudia is such a big wrapper so no point me going & buying those burp pads or flanny nappies for them. I'm glad to hear that you are co-sleeping to get some rest. Jessica, my first little pixie was a shocking, terrible, horrible sleeper & all I wanted to do was sleep with her so we could both get some rest but I had EVERYONE on my case saying how bad it was & I was so tired I'd roll onto her & not know it. Knowing what I know now, I wish I had of done it so good on you!

IMPATIENT _ Glad to hear that Bella was brave & tough. Poor little poppet. I didn't know it was THREE needles, I thought it was 2! Did they get you to feed her while they did it? In the hospital they made me feed Claudia while they did her heel stab & I tell ya, she didn't move a muscle! It was incredible. I'm hoping to feed her for the immunisations too.

LISA _ I'm not sure of Harrison's background, but not good that he wasn't gaining weight but WTG on the weight gain this week! I'm really glad to hear that. Maybe Claudia can have a word in his ear, she gained 400g in 5 days one week :rolleyes: Good on you for sticking with the bf'ing & declining the formula feed too. I hear you on what you're saying!

SMYLIE _ WOW you have a super-trooper with Jemima alright! No wonder that you are wanting another one so soon. Good on you!!! I bet she is just delightful when she's awake from having all that sleep. Is she a big bub? It seems the bigger they are, the more content? Claudia is just starting to find her fingers too, she sucks them for about 2 seconds & realises nothing is coming out of them. I can imagine it'd be keeping you awake at night listening to it, hopefully the transition to the cot will be smooth sailing, it seems as though she is pretty chilled so I'm sure she'll be great!

Well I better go, it's not even 9pm & I have both babies in bed! WOW! I'm going to wake Claudia up at 10 & dreamfeed her & hopefully she'll still stay down until somewhere near 4am. Usually she doesn't go to bed until 10pm but she has been asleep since 8. Some days she'll continually feed from 6 - 10pm & then others she won't. When she doesn't do that big cluster of feeds I get nervous that she'll be up all the time wanting to be fed, but so far that hasn't happened......... touch wood.

Love Jayne xox

I cant believe the name was Tabitha, I've tried forever to get Benji to agree on Tabitha and about a month ago he maybe almost put it on the short list, mainly since most people in Australia associate Jemima with a doll off "Playschool" but when you say that is your daughters name they think of it once then get over it, so I thought the same thing would happen with Tabitha and "Bewitched", having Beth as nickname is such a good idea i want a Beth but my mum's name is elizabeth and bethany doesnt go with wylie so unless i just use beth maybe i should try harder for tabitha.... is it popular in uk? i still love zaidie for a first name with your surname.

lil - have you gotten any more poos since the other day??

Morning all :)

Tabitha is cute Ryn, I like it.

Kel, I can just imagine you with 5 or 6 kids and your fur babies and just loving it, sounds like you are a very relaxed and chilled out mum.

Good on you Lisa with the sticking to BFing, and good on gorgeous little Harrison for putting on weight, Luckily Quinn has no such problems - I can send you some of his weight if you like, he is the biggest baby in our mothers group and he is the youngest by around 4 weeks!!!!

I looked after a friend's baby yesterday and it was great - they were both so well behaved - I wondered how I'd go looking after 2 but figured that lots of people have twins so I could handle it. It was great fun - but Quinn and his little girlfriend are both so gorgeous and calm anyway it was a treat.

Jayne you are a legend getting both baies to sleep...do you go to sleep then too or get to spend some well deserved time on your own or with your dh.

Michelle: I'm off to view your new website :)
SHE IS SO GORGEOUS MICHELLE - so much beautiful hair too :)

My little man now sleeps until 4am... so proud of him! And he can roll over all by himself too, extra proud. He started doing that on the 12th, so just beforehe turned 2m old. DH told MiL; I didn't want to do the bragging on his side as Niece was 5-6m before she rolled over.

Michelle, Isabella is a cutie! Does anyone here have a bald baby, or do we all have hairy babies?

Lisa, DS would gain40g a day when playing catch-up, but now it's onlyabout 25g a day, so Harrison is doing well in my book!

Kel, you still have playschool? That was cancelled over here donkey's years ago... I used to have a giant knitted Humpty Dumpty from Playschool! Lucy was the smaller doll and Jemima the larger, yes?

Kirsten, is this you getting broody now? LOL.

DS is sleeping again - has to catch up from sleep refusal last night. He'd stay in his bed for five mins asleep and I wasn't happy the third time I got him up; I spent ages calming him, getting him off, putting himinto bed, slowly removing my arm... 5 mins later, he's awake. No grown-up time last night! DH is on 12-hour days for 3 months starting Tuesday so I'm hoping for grown-up time when he gets home every night.

Ryn: Quinn is still pretty much a baldy,
http://www.picasaweb.google.com.au/d...cotti/QuinnTwo
he might be bald but he's still gorgeous!!! :D

Me, Broody? Noooooo way ;)
Yay for rolling over too - you must be very proud!

RYN _ that's really, really awesome about him rolling over. Jess was a week shy of 4 months when she did that & most of her little friends were around that age, so he's doing super! WOO HOO On the sleeping til 4am. That's Claudia's top up time too, if it weren't for the time-diff we'd be up together! Are you b'feeding? I still am & put Claudia into bed with me, she'll suck for a good 45 minutes or so, so I put her in bed next to me, have a little cat nap while she feeds, wake up when she is finished, wrap her back up & put her back to bed. Works great for us. Only this morning we had Jess in bed with us too, so it was a bit squashy with 4 of us!

hey ladies!:hello:

lisa: that's great Harrison put on 110g in 6 days. i'd resist formula too. how's james going at high school - still enjoying it? its great having brad home for the school holidays - he's so much help with cam.

jayne: yeah, the mini pill only has an approx 3 hour window - can be a hassle when i want to nap around that time, but so far working ok. yeah i think the DH's should take care of it!! might try and talk my DH into getting a snip.:cry: i've stopped wrapping bub, for a few reasons (although maybe i should!). the wraps were getting too small for him (although apparently you can buy bigger wraps?), and he gets out of them all the time, and he seemed alot happier in his big cot.

kelly: i was worried about moving my bub into the nursery, but it turned out easier than i thought. now when he cries, i work him into my dreams, and tell myself i don't need to get up for whatever reason!! when he was next to me i'd jump up as soon as he made any noise.

kirsten: how much does Quinn weigh now? and length? he's gorgeous. i've been meaning to put cam in the shower with his dad - i'll have to show him your photos. check out my two gorgeous boys in the bath, in album 2 http://aflanagan5.photosite.com/
password cameron.

michelle: your daughters are beautiful! bet brianna is tickled pink with her baby sister. you were saying before about whether to have another baby - i thought i was too old at 39, but i've found i have more energy this time, my body has sprung back into shape (jury is still out on the boobs till BF finished!), and am enjoying it more this time around.

ryn: man - you went through alot with the birth - i don't blame you for being disappointed! good on you for coping with it all, and being flexible. i complain about my 2 labours, but really they were quite uncomplicated (i just can't handle the pain of contractions). your labour just proves to me that it doesn't matter how well prepared/educated you are, there's no planning for it. hope you next labour is smoother.

woohooo!! my bubba slept 8.5 hours last night - how lovely was that - i feel like a new woman!! he hadn't slept all day, so really needed the sleep, but usually his hunger overrides his sleeping! he doesn't sleep much at all during the day - maybe 3hours at the most, on the good days.

Hi everyone!
Jayne - they didn't get me to feed her. I'm formula feeding her anyway, but with two needles going in at the same time, it would have been a bit awkward.

Ryn - What a clever boy you have, rolling over already! Bri started rolling at 9 weeks and that coincided with her sleeping through - I just think she preferred to be on her tummy, no matter what the SIDS people were saying! Glad to hear he's sleeping longer too.

Kirsten - Quinn's a little cutie! I can definitely see his daddy in him!

Anne - congrats on your 8.5 hours of sleep! I don't wrap Bella anymore either. Not because she's too big, but because she just doesn't like it. She likes to sleep with her arms up beside her head, so who am I to stop that! Glad to hear that Brad is such a good help when he's home. The experience will probably ensure he's a good dad himself when he gets older!

Me - I'm still not so sure about my coping skills if I were to have another bub. With Bri and Bella it's not too bad, because I have one who is pretty much able to look after herself and another who is totally dependant on me. Having two who are totally dependant - I don't know how I'd go. Also, Bella's such a good baby and is so placid compared to what Bri was like. What if I have another one and it's like Bri was? I'm not sure my sanity would stay intact!

Isabella's got one hard lump in her thigh - the only remaining symptom of her needles the other day. For a couple of days her appetite was down and she just wasn't her usual happy self, but today she's back to normal, thank god! I forgot to add in my post on Thursday her new measurements/weight, so here they are:

Weight: 5140g (3065g at birth) Length: 61cm (51cm at birth) Head circ: 39cm (34cm at birth). So all in all, she's growing nicely. What a clever baby!

She's really getting chatty now and it's absolutely adorable! We had a lovely chat this morning, and she just blabbered away in her own little language.

kirsten, you're right, Quinn is beautiful! He's such a gorgeous little man. But still has some hair... some babies have no hair until they are 2! Quinn is just not as hairy a beast as Liebling.

Jayne, yup, BFing (with a B-cup chest, it can happen!) - when DS awakes we co-sleep so I get back to sleep straight away and don't have to mess about with the crib again, plus I was falling asleep sat up before I just gave up and co-slept- and sleeping like that for 3 hours, had such a bad back as our headstead isn't comfortable. He did 9-11.30-3.30-6.30 last night, which is fab.

Anne, DH was talking about the snip... noooo! What about the other babies? After the next two, OK. If we agree to stop when DS is a lot older or his single sibling is older, OK. Just not now! And thanks for your kind words about my birth experience, I really want another shot at it!

Michelle, I love chatting to my baby too! They're so expressive and just tell you everything, don't they? I love it when DS tells me all his secrets LOL.

Out to the in-laws last night and I'm so glad I don't parent like SiL! (warning, slight rant.) Niece is 14m old, points and grunts instead of talking as the d*mn dummy is in all the time, even when she tries to eat, knows the word "no" but also (said SiL laughing) that it isn't re-enforced so she can ignore it, is plonked in front of the TV with no active discussion about the story, and anyway, I won't go on. She never cries unless she falls over, and then not for long, but that's a side-effect of control crying when she was as tiny as our little ones are now. Oh, isn't it a fun world when we're all different! I'm sure SiL thinks the same about my parenting style. But I will say that DS had more sounds than Niece at 3 days old (he had a!, eh and o! by then). Niece uses eh almost all the time and has regressed - she has stopped saying mamamama to everything - even her mother! I blame the dummy and am even more deep-seated in my (slightly irrational, especially as I know DS needs to suck with his reflux so has one) hatred of them after yesterday; DS is now finding his fist and I'm encouraging his to suck on that, it can't be in the mouth when he plays!

I bet DS will be "behind" Niece when it comes to eating solids - Niece was 5m and DS will be 7m, I hope, so he won't beat Niece at everything! Otherwise, he's uber-advanced and so clever!

Anne: How lovely is it when they sleep that long :) Quinn at last weigh in which was a few weeks ago was 6105kg and 63.5cm long and head was 40.8cm. I expect he is around 6.5kgs plus now he was putting on a kilo a month! (porky man). These weights etc were at 8 weeks. Your boys are gorgeous - I love the photo of them in the bath :D

Michelle: Eveyone says Quinn looks like his dad but I have photos of me as a baby and he looks almost exactly like me - nothing like me now, but our baby photos are so similar it's weird :) Aren't they great when they get chatty - Quinn likes to talk all the time and gets cranky if you arent' paying attention to him when he talks He copies when you say "oooooh" to him...

Ryn: i know what you mean about older kids not knowing many sounds because they permanently have a dummy - I have nothing against dummys but Quinn won't take one anyway - but I know girl who has a 3 year old and he talks with the dummy in his mouth and never gets told to take it out, he doesn't speak well at all for his age...he also tells him mum he is going to do a poo in his nappy and she says "Ok tell me when you're finished" don't you think that with that level of communication he should be toilet trained?? Anyway - that's my rant about other people...like you said Ryn - different parenting styles - she cant understand why I use cloth nappies and exclusively breastfeed so it goes both ways :D Oh and leibling is pretty spectacularly gorgeous too - I love the pics of him growing into that gorgeous big coat. can I see pubert pics too?

Jayne: 4 in the bed sounds like loads of fun - I love it when Quinn is in our bed in the mornings - he is so smiley when he first wakes up in the mornings - we get about half an hour of laughing and smiles until he wants his breakfast - it's just lovely!!!

Ryn - Bri had a dummy when she was little, but if she tried to talk to me with it in, I'd tell her to take it out, otherwise I wasn't going to listen to what she was trying to say, so I'm with you on that one! I think they have their purpose, but sometimes they can be overused. She suffered really bad with colic and sometimes it was the only way I could settle her. When I weaned her, I just threw them out and told her I couldn't find them. It meant one night of hell, but it was worth it! Bella's relatively easy to settle, so I've not bothered with her.

Kirsten - It's funny how you mentioned that Quinn looked like you at first. My dad found an old photo of my mother holding me just after I was born, and the photo looks like it's of me holding Isabella. Wierd! Everyone now says she looks like my DH too.

I can't believe why someone would question the fact that you exclusively breastfeed, especially when it's the best for bub?! If I hadn't had so much trouble, I'd be there with you! I can say though, that now that I'm no longer beating myself up about it, I'm actually finding it more convenient not to breastfeed! I suppose it's just what you get used to.

Each to their own with the nappies. I'm using disposable because I find them more convenient. Also, I used cloth with Bri, but when she was only about 2 months old, she was peeing right through them and I was sick of washing urine covered clothes several times a day. YUK.

I have the saddest baby in the whole wide world. I dont know what is up with her... actually I think I know I'm just in denial... I think it is POO DAY, it has been I think 6 days now, so I guess it could still be 4 or 5 days away but she seems so over it today and a little smelly I guess, ho hum poor Jemima.... LUCKILY today is also NEEDLE day, so in 30 minutes we are leaving for the doctor and then I will ask the doctor if we can get something to get the poo to come today... the babydoc said we could get some dispostiries from the chemist so I will ask doc about them today... AND find out exactly why it is normal for some babies to go so long without a poo and have some babies have a poo everyday, poos that DONT go all over babies clothes. I have changed so many nappies today already though, likes a days worth or more in half a day, so glad i was having a disposable day... we alternate between disposable and cloth, only disposable when we go out though, I just dont feel like carrying around dirty/wet nappies ESPECIALLY just in case it is the week waited for poo!

Is anyone doing baby and me yoga?? I am going to get doc to give me referral for it so my health fund covers some of it, that should be interesting a room full of babies doing yoga with their mummies...??

RYN - DS ROCKS! I cant believe he rolls over!

Cant wait to get these needles out the way as then I am going to buy myself some togs and take this baby to the pool... heated of course!

Kirsten - funny you say about lots of kids and my dogs as on my list of things to do today is hop on realestate.com and see what is out there with a little more room... dont know how 2 kids will fit in this house let alone more.... but everything is expensive these days so i dont know how we will afford to upgrade without living in the sticks (which i would love to do but benji works in the valley so we need to be kinda suburban)

Michele - love your website, love the isabella entering the world bit of your blog too, she is such a cutie

Lisa - how did Harrison go in weigh in?? (i am totally addicted to the biggest loser at the moment)(me who didnt have a tv until xmas last year...)

Jayne - 4 in the bed sounds crazy! but fun, and that is what life is all about...

Ithought nobody had posted for a week but then I think i must have broken something with my profile letting me know thingy - technology sucks.

my baby is half asleep on the couch but really annoyed at the world, not like her at all, some of the cries we have had today I HAVE NEVER heard from her.... she is not going to like the needles today..... as long as I get a jelly bean to eat on her behalf it is going to be ok.

oh yeah, guess what..... Jemima rhymes with Vagina.... trust male cousin to think of that... i had not... i cant believe i didnt figure that out when picking her name! it is ok my cousin's name is Richard so i will make sure Jemima always calls him di*ck.

had to buy suppostries and stick my finger up my baby's butt!
hmmm the things we do......
she is happier after poo
BUT
not happy after needles.... heaps better RIGHT now but has been off and on all afternoon totally not my jem

have 'new parents group' tomorrow, the group run by the clinic... not reallly looking forward to it... SIL and BIL will be there with Hannah (BIL has holidays for a while after being overseas for ages and birth of his baby etc) and also jemima's boyfriend will be there too, both totally different babies to Jemima, TOTALLY different so really not looking forward to talking babies with them as they take things personally...
you know what i mean, if they ask how jemima is sleeping i say good, but if they ask how long she is sleeping at night i have to say the truth which is 8pm until 5.30/6am one will be ****ed off i have 'better' nights sleep than them (hannah still has a wake up in middle of night i think) and other will be depressed thinking she is bad mum as jemima's boyfriend wakes up twice in the night.... and they both have dummies and think dummies are bad, whereas i dont think jemima would take a dummy if i wanted her to...
one mum has no milk left so feels like a failure which i think is crap as i personally dont think it matters where your baby gets it's food from as long as it is getting food!
so yeah with Jemima not really herself and no idea what kind of poo day we will have tomorrow after having to coax this poo out today i am not really looking forward to tomorrow....
also annoyed at my GP as she said that babies shouldnt go longer than 4 or so days and that 6 days (which is what jem was today) is far too long FOR A BREASTFED baby, as if there was something wrong with jemima.... but babydoc last week made it sound like just another kind of normal for a breastfed baby.... so i have left a message for babydoc to call me to explain in more detail what 'causes' the long time between poos and what i can do to prevent it....
it may have something to do with what i am eating i dont know
BUT am totally annoyed i think i have baby with a problem now... hate all the different opinions... book says 3 weeks, babydoc says 10days and gp says 4 days... jemima tells me when it bothers her so that is what is RIGHT but still hmph....

hope everyone else is having fun with needles and poos!! i'll say it once and i'll say it again = what a life!

Hi girls :hello:
I've been busy with everything here... so I haven't had much time to post.

Harrison is obviously going through a growth spurt as all he wants to do is feed... he is looking a little more chubby to which is brilliant... He gets weighed tomorrow so fingers tightly crossed.
Yesterday my big baby boy turned 13.... so exciting for us!!! We went to the movies and had a quiet dinner of his choice at home... he didn't want a party or anything... he just wanted his Mummys chicken schnizel and white chocolate and mango cheesecake!!! lol

Anne - Thanks for asking... James looooooves high school.... he especially likes his laptop that he got from the school!!! I think that is his fave part of school.... he got 28/30 in his language test just before end of term, and a similar result in math which is fantastic for him as he was a child that HATED primary school.

Kel - I hope Jemima is okay after her needles... are you okay? I am a mess with every one of the needles... even with my bigger kids!!! lol
I have heard that breastfed babies can go for up to a month without a poo... and that is considered normal... Not my baby though... he is very consistant with his poopy nappies!

Great to see everyone is doing well, and their babies are thriving and gorgeous as ever... I will pop in soon and do more personals... now, I'm off to bed.

Kel, the NHS says 1 week between poos is fine if you wanted another opinion - although not even having 12 poo-free hours here makes me doubt that.

And dummies ARE evil if a 16-month-old needs to be told to take it out to eat and that's the only time she has it out her mouth all day. Not commenting on SiL's parenting style, just my opinion, but if that's what Niece does that's just co-incidence.

Michelle, DS looks nothing like old pics of me, save the hair, and is the spit of his dad as a baby, save the hair. Go hair! I always had a ton of dark hair, DH had less and lighter.

Happy birthday to your James, Lisa. And YAY for Harrison feeding so much.

Well, we went to see Sis off on her round-the-world tour today at the airport. DS slept all the way up there and was being adorable for his favourite Aunty. We had a small prang on the way back - can't open the boot to get the pushchair out now, but did get details. Luckily DS and I are fine, I think the lad who hit us was a bit shocked to see a tiny baby though. DS did a huge scream as we were jolted, but seems fine, and was happy to get back in the car to get home - I guess he just didn't understand what happened but was happy it stopped when he complained! Getting him checked out when he gets his jabs tomorrow (a week late, I know).

Hellooo!
Kel - Poor little Jemima! Believe me, she will get back to normal soon after those yukky needles. At least she is happier after doing her poo! I have no idea about BF babies, but Bella poos at least once a day without fail. She had a couple of smaller ones over the weekend, so I was expecting an explosion, and that's what I got yesterday! yuk. I hope you get an opinion you can trust on that matter - half the time it depends on who you talk to as to what answer you get. Have you tried googling it to see what the internet can tell you (again, I think you'll find varying opinions there too)?

I work with a guy who is kept up half the night with their DD who was born 3 days before Bella. He told me he hated me the other week (he was kidding)! I just made a joke of it, saying how hard life is at the moment...! If people want to feel bad that I have such a good baby, then that's their choice and I'm not going to stop being happy about it just to make sure they don't feel bad - I should be allowed to rejoice in my well-behaved baby. They just have to realise that every baby is different, and at this age, it's more common for a baby not to be sleeping through yet.

I cracked up laughing when you mentioned that Jemima rhymed with vagina! Typical male to think of that. Lucky you can get payback!

Lisa - Yay for Harrison having a growth spurt! Make sure you let us know how much he's grown! Glad to hear James is liking high school, which is obvious going by his fantastic marks! Are you feeling old, with him turning 13??? Is he going to a private school? The reason I ask, is that my neice wasn't given one and she goes to a public shool, but I can see that all children will eventually have to have them in the future. No wonder he's thrilled!

Ryn - OMG about the car accident! Are you ok? How frightening! Good idea getting DS checked out - best to be safe than sorry. We had a teeny little accident recently when DH was driving, but the dent looks like a shopping trolley hit us - that's how teeny it was, but I was so shaken up thinking about how lucky we were.

Me - I plotted Bella's measurements and weights in her baby book and she's been following along the 50th percentile pretty closely, but her length has gone up to around the 95th percentile (she started around 50)! DH and I got the tape measure out to make sure it was right. I think it's her legs that have grown as I have some new romper suits in size 00 thinking they'd be huge on her (not Bonds, as we all know they're much smaller than normal!), and they fit perfectly on the legs and are a bit wide around her shoulders. So it looks like she'll be like me - tall and skinny! Poor little baby. I just hope she doesn't get my lolly legs with knock knees like Bri did!

Better go. Bella's decided not to have a sleep again, even though she's REALLY tired!

Hi girls...
Well... Harrison only gained 60g in 6 days... but the ECHN noticed that he does look cubbier... I was a little disappointed... I definitely expected that he would have gained more... he has been feeding so much lately, and getting huge amounts... but, as the ECHN said, he has a small gain one week, then a bigger one the next... FIL told us that this is exactly the same as DH was... he kept growing taller but didn't put on much weight... Looks like Harry is definitely his Dadda's boy!!!

Ryn - Thanks for the bday wishes for James... I have passed them on to him ;)
I am so sorry to hear you had an accident!!! OMG, how frightening for you, no matter how big or small... it would still be so scary.... glad to hear you're all okay though :hug:

Michelle - Yep... I definitely feel old... especially when I have all my friends reminding me that I have a 13yr old son!! lol
My BF who was there throughout my pregnancy with James, there when he was born etc cried on his birthday because he is now a teenager and SHE feels old!! lol
And yes, James does go to a private school... mostly because of the laptop program as James is so very very clever when it comes to computers so we chose this school to nurture his talent and have something that he will be really interested in... but since being there, he has decided that he does really love school... such a huge difference from primary school.
Sounds like Bella is growing like Harrison... tall and skinny... all my kids are like that, unlike their short, chubby Mum!!! lol
James is already taller than me, and wears size 13 mens shoes... I think he is going to be quite tall.

Hi to everyone I've missed.... I hope you're all well :)

Hi Girls,
Sorry it's beeen aaaaaages since my last post, we've all been sick for a good couple of weeks, so it's just been too exhausting to get online.
Hope you're all doing well... I'm going to have to have a good read to catch up.
We're now recovered from the flu and doing really well. Still not much daytime sleep, so busy and grumpy but we're getting some good long night sleeps now except for when she has wind. She is just sooooo full of smiles and big grins! Actually not much going on here in the baby sense... growing nicely, feeding well, etc...

Well I'm going to have a read and catch up with what's been going on in the world. :)