Babies born July 2006 #2

Hiya Cyn - Jensen looks gorgeous!! I've only decided this week to get really suck into it. I'm planning to go at least 3 times a week and on the days I don't go I'm going to go for an hour walk. I do 30 mins on the cross trainer, 30 mins on the treadie on a slight slope and about 30 mins of light weights and sit ups and things. Today I did my hour walk. I'm planning on loosing 15 kilos. I've got about 5 until pre-pregnancy weight but I want to get down to what I was when I got married which is almost 2 years ago. I'm having trouble giving up my yummy dinners that I make which aren't too healthy. Don't rush yourself. Remember I've had my checkups and given the all clear to do it. I just feel like a big porka and none of my clothes fit me except the one I used to have safety pins in to hold them up!! And my maternity clothes - yay - not!! I honestly think that's why I felt so down last week. This week after doing some exercise I feel a whole heap better!!

Father's day - I'm not doing a whole heap as I just spent a fortune on Ken's birthday. I've got a CD which was imported in which too over 2 months and a extentable tree chopper thing. I'm going to get a 'Daddy' card and also a little drinks cooler so he can have cold cans of coke and water in the car when he's working. So a present from me, Danielle and Nunzio (furbaby).

We've decided to get a new car - a Suzuki Vitara!! My hatch just doesn't cut it anymore. I love it to death but it's just not practical anymore. Such a hassel to get everything in and out and I can't even have hatch cover with my big speakers in it as the prams doesn't fit otherwise. Going tomorrow night for a test drive and maybe sign up for it.

Danielle has her 2 month needle tomorrow. I hope she's going to be OK and not drive me insane!!

hey guys ive copied and pasted this from august thread, i have only one free hand so im not retyping it again, im too lazt too lol

hey guys sorry no updates since announcing the Xavier has arrived, sp have been keeping very queit and a low profile. Things havent been to great here, i have PND and it offically sucks. Xavier is going really wel thou, in the last 15 days (since last ECHN visit) he has put on 620grams, before that he put on 380 grams in 7 days, he loves his milk, i have a damn good supply so im happy, he sleeps well goes down at 10pm at night and goes down for 5.5 hours til 3.30am for another feed and back up at 7am, he is a very placid quiet baby rarely screams or crys, we got our 1st smilies last sat which was good. big sis is doing well and loves kissing him, daddy is loving it too

hey girls thankyou it took ages to get a photo like that iv set up a chat room i just need your email address so i can send you the link to the chatroom
so if you can please do the following if you would like to join
send me
your email address and wat time you can or would like to chat
and ill send you the link to the chatroom
my email address is baiza01@hotmail.com
in this chatroom it will only be us chatting so youll know everyone in there you can also put your photos in there to show everyone

Hi all

Haven't been on for a couple of days as have been quite busy. Had the afternoon and dinner at the in laws on Saturday, they just love Dylan and stare at him the whole time we are there and we get a meal out of it, it's just great! Then on Sunday we drove down to Rosebud (Mornington Peninsula) to have lunch with my mum and nan for her 88th birthday and it was the first time she got to meet Dylan, which was nice. Monday had Mothers group and we talked about home safety so many things can go wrong in your home with a child around. Monday night we had visitors my friend, her hubby and their 3yr old and 10 mth old girls, they are very cute. It was the first time they were meeting Dylan and my friend announced after having a cuddle that she would like a third baby. So have been a busy beaver. Really want to go to baby bunting today but have to get out of jammies first. Have a list of things I want to get and want to have a browse without DH. Dylan is being a real mummys boy this morning tried to leave him with DH who is still in bed but he watched me leave the room and promptly screamed until I came back and picked him up. He is now on my lap and I am one handed typing. He is sleeping well at night usually from about 11ish til about 3ish and then 4ish til 7.30-8, but we had a couple of nights where he slept for 5 hours in two blocks and I had to check he was still breathing cos I couldn't hear a peep not even his little snores.

Boisey I am good how are you going? Do you ever go to Southland we should meet up one day for a coffee and a browse and their is someone who lives in Pakenham who goes to Sthland we should all meet up? Just an idea.

Kel Yay for the new car yeah our hyundai excel not really cutting it would love us to get something new too.

Fee Cooper is really thriving yay, Dylans stats are similar. I am like you too I try without the shield and he latches on but keeps coming off and then gets too frustrated so I end up putting it back on, so we are going to keep using it too.

Shellbabe Still thinking about the LC.

Chantal Hope Zac is ok.

Anyway bye all off to do the weekly shopping online! How lazy!!!

Hi ladies,


aarrggghh Fathers day - I hadn't thought of that! I think I might just give SImon a Charlie foot print on paper for him to take to work and put on his wall or something!

Charlie has been very unsettled past 24 hours - 6 week growth spurt perhaps, went to the clinic today for check up and ohmigod the boy weighs over 12 pounds!!! he's 58cm long with a head circ of 40cm. the clinic nurse assumed he was born big, but now the little tacker has put on 4 pounds in 6 weeks!

Chantal - that sounds really scary - I hope everything is ok now, poor Zac and poor you!

Cyn - I know that faux hangover feeling well - however apparently it's not an excuse to eat a breast fillet dinner box meal upsized from KFC - who knew!

Bubs - cool news about the car - we have a subaru forrester and it barely fits everything in it and before we had Charlie I thought it was a really big car - honestly I think you need a mack truck once you have a baby! How did Danielle's vacs go?

Shell - well done on the footy - did the cheering and shouting rouse her at all?

Fee - I used the Fess stuff for the first time this morning - Charlie hated it, but it worked. It's no as scary as I thought it would be to squirt stuff into his nose

Baiza - I've flicked you an e-mail about the chat room - let me know if you don't get it

Hey Yummy! good to hear from you! sounds like you have everything in hand!

Cassie - what law says you can't go shopping in your jammies? If Michael Jackson can go to court in his then I think a trip to baby bunting isn't out of the question!


well I've got to go and clean my shoes - the clinic nurse handed a naked Charlie to me, who promptly pooed and it landed on my shoes........ eeeuuiiii

still haven't seen anything from Tanya or Dee - hope they're ok!

Speak soon - Em

Just came back in to this forum after a busy 2 weeks. It is great to read through all your comments as it makes me feel normal!

Oskar is now 7 weeks. At his 6 week checkup he was 5.7 kg, 60 cm long and 40 cm head - so a big boy.

I had my obs. check up too, I have gained 5 kg since my first appointment, not too much really but it must all be on my thighs as none of my pants fit. I talked about contraception with my obs. and am thinking og getting the Implanon. She inserts a couple a week and noones had any problems (and you can always get it out if you do). A few people said they have up on weight, but I know a lot of people who put on weight without the implanon to - lol!!

I have been to my new parents group twice (not a mothers' group as a dad attended once!). It is really large, twenty people, everyone seems nice... except I am sure they lie as noone ever mentions they have any problems. The first meeting we were asked if anyone had trouble getting their baby to sleep in the middle of the night. I had that week and was the only one who put my hand up. I cannot believe everyone elses babys sleep perfectly every night. It was funny as afterwards the nurse (?) taking it said "By the way, all mothers lie about their babies" and they all laughed!

Oskar is usually sleeping from 11pm until 5.30 am, which is great for my sleep, but not my breasts! However, we still have some crazy times and days. Currently it is near impossible to get him to sleep for his 7ish to 10ish sleep and he only lets Jeremy settle him then and not me (good in a way, as I can relax).

Enough of me... hope you all get some good rest tonight. :)

hey all
well we have been going well, Charlotte is still sleeping with me every now and then but if i can get her to sleep in her bed its great, i just have trouble trying to pat her to sleep at 4am in the morning. she loves her swing so she sleeps in there during the day, a couple of times i have had trouble at night where she just wants to use my boob as a dummy. The photos went well, we pick them up in 2 weeks, we had a couple of family ones a suple of Madison and Charlotte and a couple of the girls by them selfs, i carn't wait to see them, they are going to cost $410 but i got them all with Madison so i have to get them all with Charlotte.

Bubs- glad to see you are feeling better, wow at Danielle sleeping so long, i wish.

Becca- that is funny that you are the only one to put your hand up about their children sleeping, its olny that when you get to know the other parents they let you know, in my mothers group some of them still have trouble (they are all about 20-22months old) sleeping through the night.

Cyn- my hair dresser is a friend from my mothers group she does it from home, so i take Madison and she plays with her daughter, and i can feed Charlotte when she needs it, it makes it so much easier.

Em- i got Tim simspon dvd as we are colecting them all, and i might buy him a new top if he is good!

Well i am so happy with myself, i have lost 16kg's without really doing anything, thougth i have stopped drinking soft drink and i eat a bit better too.expect for the last 2 days.i would still like to lose another 20kg's.
I hope everyone has a good night.:)

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Hey Yummy! good to hear from you! sounds like you have everything in hand!

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yeah thanks heaps, im just glad im getting sleep............i dread no sleep!

hugs to you all

Sorry girls I've not no time for personals today. Just a quick update on us. Danielle slept from 8pm to 6am the night before last. I was very very happy. But on the down side she has a cold and has a nasty cough. We went to the doc for her vacs and he said it was fine for her to do it and the cough and nose were pretty much nothing. Well over night she's turned. Her cough has turned into 10 constant coughs in a row and we can't lay her down otherwise she has a coughing fit. I'm going back to the docs today to see another doctor (this is the same doctor that told me my flared up stitches are nothing - I'm seeing a female doctor at another surgery tomorrow - can't get Danielle in there) and hopefully he can tell me what I can do to help her. I feel so helpless when she coughs. She looks horrible and turns bright red. I hope it's not Whooping Cough.

On a brighter note - we bought our new car!! But we probably won't get it until the end of September. They think there are none in stock and we'll have to wait until the next shipment. We got a whole heap of stuff on the car for free too like dash mat, fog lamps, side steps - it's going to look hot!!

I better go - Danielle needs to be attached to me for a few days. Looks like no Mother's Group for us this week. Take care everyone.

Mark, Cooper and I went for our first trip into the city yesterday. We went to visit my work which was fun. Everyone wanted a hold and oohed and aahed over Cooper and said what a gorgeous boy he was! One lady said we should get him into baby commercials!!!

Cooper is always so good when we go out – he just sleeps a lot. It's at home during the day which is the problem at the moment. I wonder if going out a lot really stuffs up their routine? I feel bad when we have busy/social days as Cooper hardly gets any play time or tummy time. It's feed time and then back into the car or back into the pram.

So far today he is doing great though. I fed him around 8.00 am and he is still asleep in his cot – yay!!!

I tried Cooper without the nipple shield again yesterday afternoon. He was doing pretty well and I could hear him gulping the milk and I could hear it hitting his empty tummy! But then after about 5-10 minutes my nipple started hurting. I guess he wasn't attached correctly? Although it felt fine to begin with. I just think that he doesn't get enough of my areola into his mouth – he opens his mouth wide but then it ends up sliding down around just the nipple only. I ended up putting the shield back on and all was good again. Oh well, I tried.

Bubseykel – Wow … 1.5 hours at the gym. Very impressive!!! How often do you plan on going?

What colour is your new car?

Boisey – What does the clinic say about Jensen's weight gain? If they think he's fine then don't worry. You said 160 grams a week – well that's what my clinic says is the minimum to gain each week. So he's okay.

About Father's Day … I ordered a photo mug for DH. It has Cooper's smiling face on it! I ordered it from Fuji Online and it arrived it the mail in about 3 days. I was very impressed.

~yummymummy~ - Sorry to hear about your PND. What do you do about it? I hope everything is okay. It sounds like Xavier's doing great.

baiza – I've had a look at the chat room. Just setting up some photos of Cooper at the moment!

Cassie – Sounds like you've been really busy. Makes the days fly by doesn't it?! That's so nice about your Nan's 88th birthday and her getting to meet Dylan for the first time.

Fraser – Wow Charlie is a big boy! That's great to hear he's doing so well.

Becca – Another big boy!!! And how funny about your Mother's Group and the mums all lying!!! LOL

kmh – Good job with losing 16 kgs so easily. All the best with the other weight you want to lose!

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For the first time last night Charlotte slept in her own bed ALL night.:) and only got up once, i feed her at 9pm then at 1:30am and then at 7am, i hope this contuines. And then she put her self to sleep this morning. YAY.

Bubs- i hope Danielle gets better soon, some doctors should not be doctors.I had that sort of problem when i was pregnant, i went to one doc and i wasn't feeling well, he said i would be fine, so i went to my normal doc when i could get in and i ened up having an UTI.

Fee- Charlotte does the same thing, when she is at home she sleeps fine, but when we are out she plays up, i think they get sick of being in the pram.

i hope everyone is having a great day, it is a beautiful day in melb the sun is out and its warm, bring on the warmer weather.

Just thought i would update you all we just got back from the health centre for Charlotte's six week check up.
Birth: weight was 3.295kg's(7,4) 6 weeks- 3.980kg's (8.12)
height was 48cms 6 weeks- 52cms
head cm was 34.5 6 weeks- 37cms
So we are still little but we are growing, she still fits into all her 0000 stuff, expect the bonds jumpsuits she is 000.

What size bonds jumpsuits are you all using?

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~yummymummy~ - Sorry to hear about your PND. What do you do about it? I hope everything is okay. It sounds like Xavier's doing great.

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im taking vitamin b tablets as depression is apprantrly caused by low zinc and vitamin b, you learn a new thing everyday!!!!

kmh bailee is in size 000 now he has out grow 0000 they row fast i hope he dose grow to much as i brought him 00 cloths for xmas

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well its been very quite in here.
we have not been up to much, Charlotte is starting to go longer between feeds. from every 2 hours to about 3, but at the moment she is asleep and its nearly 4 yay. We also had a good night the other night she went 6 hours my boobs really were sore then.

biazar- Charlotte is still in 0000, i have been going through Madison's clothes and they are all still too big.

I hope everyone is haveing a good weekend, we are off to a 40th tonight and then to my dad's tomorrow for fathers Day.:)

Cooper has been pretty good yesterday and today. He is sleeping in his cot during the day just fine. He actually seems really really sleepy lately. I just fed him and usually I would give him play time after, but today he fell asleep on my lap!

He's feeding quite a lot though – always hungry. He used to go 4 hours between feeds during the day and sometimes I'd even have to wake him. But now he goes 3 hours. And in the early morning it can be even more often!

Nights are still good. He settles perfectly on his own and last night he went 7 hours between his last night time feed and the next. But then just 4 hours to the next feed. His last feed of the night is usually around 5.30 - 6.30 pm... Wish it were later because then if he goes 7-8 hours it would be fantastic! Maybe I could try giving him a "roll-over" feed around 10.00 pm or something? I normally just go to bed at 8.30 pm. So I get an okay sleep.

I had my 6 week check up on Thursday. All is well but unfortunately my OB says things are a little tight downstairs due to my tears. It's not that he's stitched me up too much, it's that where I tore, I tore sideways either side, and the way it has healed is a bit tight. He said to try DTD only when really in the mood and to try it a few times and if there is pain after trying for a while then I need to see him and I may need it fixed up down there. Oh dear I don't like the sound of that!

kmh – I use the Target brand suits – they are just like the Bonds Wondersuits. Cooper wears 000.

kmh - Congrats on the weight loss. You must be feeling great, especially since you didn't have to do much to lose it.

Bubseykel - I hope Danielle's cough improves. You will love having a new car. We got a Citroen C4 a couple of days before Oskar was born as our old Celica just didn't fit a capsule very well in the back. It's the economic diesel model and we only have to fill the tank after 700 km of city driving (1300 km otherwise!).

Fee - Cooper does look gorgeous in the pictures, I'm sure he got loads of compliments when you went shopping. I went to the mall on Friday, I caught the train there and was surprised how easy it was. Oskar fell asleep in the stroller when he got tired and I was able to feed him in the parents' room when he got hungry. Ran into two mothers/babies from my new parents group while I was there and managed to by fathers' day presents (just in time!) for my dad and for Jeremy. I know how you feel about wanting to wake Cooper for a 10 pm feed - sometimes Oskar sleeps from 7 pm until 1 am and I always wish he slept 7 until 10 pm THEN for 6 or so hours! I haven't tried waking him for a feed though.

My new parents' group was better this week. Quite a few people admitted their babies do cry this time - lol. AND I saw lots of circles under peoples' eyes, so I felt quite normal! Someone had made very nice chocolate chip cookies too, how did they get the time?! I bought ingredients for chocolate/orange cupcakes two weeks ago and haven't made them yet.

Has anyone had their 8 week immunisations yet? Just wondering if your babies had any mild fevers or anything. Oskar is having his on Tuesday.

Wish you all a great weekend. My parents are coming over from NZ for a week on Sunday so I get to spend Fathers' Day with my dad :)

Zac just had his 6 week check he now weights 4.8kgs (has put on 2kgs!) length 54cms and head cercumfrance 40cms. looks like he has had another growth spert. didnt want to be left alone at all on thursday. DH slept on the floor last night as zac and i had the bed. Zac slept for 6 blissful hours last night. hopefuly he will sleep in his bassanett tonight.
question for anyone - what have you done when you liitle one hits a growth spert and wants you all the time?

I am going to my very first Mothers' Group tomorrow. In fact I'm holding it at my house. It's with a bunch of girls from another forum I chat on. It should be fun. I'm going to bake my yummy Mars Bar Mud Cake slice. Hopefully I'll get time later tonight – if not, DH can help out.

Today we're off to DH's parents' house for Father's Day lunch. My parents are coming along too. It should be a good day.

Becca – Yeah I don't know if I could wake Cooper up for a 10.00 pm feed. I mean I have woken him during the day if he's gone longer than 4 hours between feeds, but I would feel bad waking him at night! But it's no guarantee they'll then skip that 1.00 am feed anyway. They may still wake up then! I have been reading about this in the book "Baby Love". Maybe I should just start going to bed even earlier!!! Maybe 7.30 pm?!

I've booked Cooper in for his 8 week needles – 11 September. DH is going to come with me. My SIL suggested this as it can be quite traumatic!

chantal25 – I haven't been too sure about growth spurts. That is, I'm unsure of when Cooper has actually had them! He has moments when he wants to feed every 2 hours. At the moment it's most days … but just certain times of the day. Usually very early morning and then again around 5.30 pm. I think this is his witching hour. Otherwise it's 3-4 hours. And at night it's always longer. If he seems to want to feed, then I just feed him. He's not grumpy otherwise.

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Fee- Charlotte does the same thing, when she is at home she sleeps fine, but when we are out she plays up, i think they get sick of being in the pram.

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No - Cooper is the opposite. You must have misread my post!

Cooper is great in the pram and Baby Bjorn when we go out. It's at home during the day that he gets grizzly and won't sleep in his cot.

That said, the last 2 days he's been fabulous and has slept in his cot during the day with no fuss. It's just like "old times"! Yay! :) Touch wood he continues this way.

:hello: \well we have had a really restless weekend, we went to a 40th and Charlotte did not want to sleep and then went to my dad's yesterday and she only slept for about 30mins otherwise she wanted to feed all the time, she was also really hard to get to sleep last night, so she ended up with me. but now she was been sleeping for nearly 2 hrs, my poor little girl. I think she is going through her growth spurt.

Fee- good luck with DTD, i hope it all works out well, i have my check-up tomorrow.

Becca- i hope you enjoyed fathers day with your dad, is this the first time they are meeting Oskar?

I hope everyone enjoyed your weekend, i thought i might send dee a text message to see how she is going, will let you all know how i go.

Hi everyone!! Sorry I haven’t been around lately.

Fee – I’m planning to go at least 3 times a week and on the other days, go for an hour walk. The colour of my new car is called Shining Red Pearl. It’s like a maroon colour. Danielle had the same problem with sliding off the nipple too. Keep using your shields if it helps. Sounds like 3 hourly feeds are the go. Danielle goes only 3 hours during the day – sometimes 4 is she’s been out in the car. I can’t get Danielle to sleep in her cradle during the day. You are so lucky. Not too good about the ‘Downstairs’ bit. But I’m glad that you got checked out better than I did. I’ve also tried the late night feed but she still woke up at her normal time of 6-7am but she doesn’t go to bed until 7.30-8.30pm as she just won’t go down any earlier. You can always give it a try.

Kel – Danielle is in Bonds clothes 00’s but they are starting to get on the tight side so I might have to see about getting some 0’s for her but she has so many other clothes I’m tending not to buy anything just yet. Some of her 00 clothes are starting to fit now. She’s growing too quickly!! Charlotte’s doing great!! She’s grown so that’s all that matters. Yay for longer between feeds!!

Becca – Danielle’s had her 8 week needles and she only had a mild fever with them. Her temp went up to 36.5. Make sure you’ve got some Children’s Panadol in the house just in case. After her needles Mum had her for a few hours and she gave her one dose as she was so grizzly but after that she was fine. We start out Parent’s Group on Thursday. I hope it good.

Here has been a bit of a strange one. I’ve been to the another doctor (female this time – she’s great!!) on Friday about my stitches. She thinks that it might be something else. I’m not going to say what just yet incase it’s nothing. It’s probably just the stitches flaring up again which I will need antibiotics again. She’s also testing to see what’s going on with my discharge too. Danielle’s cough is getting better. She’s not 100% yet but now DH has come down with it and has been in bed for almost 2 days straight and now I’m coming down with it. I hope it doesn’t get as bad as his.

I’ve got Danielle smiling!! When she’s in a good mood I take of her sock and tickle her face with it. She did it for me in the photo down below and again on Sunday when we were out with DH’s family. She did it infront of everyone! It made me so happy!!

Have fun everyone!!

hi all
i messaged Dee to see how she was going, she is not doing so good this is the text i got back.
"Major bleed after birth, i was passing clots the size of my hand, they did a D &C wgen I lost 4 litres of blood, they very nearly had to preform a hysterectomy but thankfully they tried putting a balloon into my uterus to try and stop the bleeding. 24 hours later i was told it worked and the bleeding had stopped. I'm recovering very slowly plus i have 4th degree tear from the birth. I'm anaemic due to my blood loss so am extremely tired. I have been told it will take 3-4 months to be back where I was in late pregnancy. Please let everyone know I'm thinking of you all and your babies. I hope to be on BB as soon as I have more energyeven lottle things take it out of me. The boys are well. Adrian is a big boy at 3 weeks he was 5kg and 58.5cms long.

Also i worked out how to put photos on the tickers, Madison loves Charlotte

KMH - I am having the same thing with Zac. he wants to feed all the time and not sleep.
he will not take a bottle but only BF i feel sore and empty. wont even take EBM from a bottle.
have my first mothers group tomorrow. I can wait. Also picking up Zacs hand and feet castings tomorrow. got the picture picked out it will look so cute. - I can hear him starting to stir again so i will talk soon

if anyone want to join babies born in july06 at msn groups for live chat to one another i have a couple of girls already joined just email me your email address and i send you the link
emily iv sent you the link to your email address you gave me just wondering if you got it

talk to ya all soon

baizar- my email address is: kmareehowell@hotmail.com

Hi Girls ...I really need some help please!!!

I am having sooo much trouble getting Jensen to sleep at night...and now I feel so confused on what to do...so Id love to hear how your getting your bubs to sleep or any advice would be greatly appreciated...Im feeling very down and out!:crying:

At the moment we dont have a routine, during the day I feed him until he falls asleep on the breast and then pop him into his bed...but he only sleeps for about 1hour or so then screams and screams so I end up feeding him again and so the loop continues!
At night its pretty much the same... Ill give him a bath, then feed till he falls asleep...but last night I tried to put him into his cot awake after his feed and he just screamed and screamed...so I went back in and gave him a cuddle and then leaving the room and waiting 10mins and kept doing this for almost 3 hours...and still he wouldnt settle at all!!!
Should I be starting a routine?
Or is he still too young (hes almost 6 weeks)
Ahhgrrrrr Im soooo confused girls...it brings me to tears as I so want to do whats best for him....
Thanks for taking the time...
love Cyn

Hi All,

sounds like everyone is going through them same thing at the moment with bubs wanting to feed all the time.
Charlotte has gone from her nice little 4hrly routine (plus a longer sleep at night), to wanting be fed every 2-3hrs.
My nipples are absolutely killing me - as I haven't used my shield in about 5 days - so I tried putting it back on last night, and it made no difference. So looks like I am shield free! at least there is one good thing atm...

I am getting very frustrated with her though when she does feed - as she only sucks for a few minutes and then takes a nap! 10 minutes worth of sucking can take up to half an hour, which defeats the purpose of her being a better sucker now.
She also acts as if she is still hungry, but when I offer her more, she squeals and crys and doesn't want it - 5 minutes later she will be asleep in my arms... but then not sleep in the cot when I put her down.
Am really hoping this is just a 6 week thing and it dies down soon.

She has been asleep now for a while - and it is almost 4 hrs since her last feed - so am expecting her to wake any minute.

Baiza - my email address is shellbabe@hotmail.com

oooh Charlotte is stirring - will have to do personals next time...

hope everyone gets some sleep!

Shell

Hi there, I have been reading with interest all of your posts over the last few weeks and have decided to take the plunge and see if I can join you all. I had a little boy Ky on July 27 and I also have 2 beautiful daughters. I too am struggling with the breastfeeding/sleeping problems, having not BF my last 2.
My little man falls asleep in my arms after a feed and as soon as he is put down his eyes open and he is then awake...so the cycle goes. I feel as if I as permenantly attached to the lounge feeding him, which is hard with 2 others to organise.
I have thought about botllefeeding ( my other 2 seemed much more settled), but am scared that I will then regret my decision.
Anyway, sorry for butting in.
Hope you all get some sleep tonight

Arvo girls

Boisey This is what I am doing with Dylan of a night and it mostly works. I change and feed him about 6ish and then burp him and have a little play, then I put him in his bed awake, I wrap him and pop his dummy in and cover him with his blanket and put on some music and then I say very softly time for sleep and I also say SHHHHH! Then every time he grizzles or cries I go back in and do the same thing over again, pop the dummy back in, say shhhh or time for sleep and make sure his blanket is ok. The 6-9pm time is the worst for us and he is quite unsettled but I persist. Then for the next feed 9 or 10 I go in and make sure I only use a lamp not the big light and I get him up and chaneg his nappy and feed him and put him straight back to bed with no play or stimulation and I do the whole thing again, the dummy, wrap him, music etc and he only needs to be settled a couple of times. He will usually sleep from then until about 3 or 4 which is 5 hours approx. Then when he wakes I don't even turn a light on I chnage and feed him in the dark (cos I usually am half asleep anyway) and pop him back in and he falls asleep striaght away and will sleep til about 7 or 8. This is our 'routine' if you want to call it that. During the day is a different story and he only really catnaps. But I make sure he sleeps in the light so if I have him sleeping in his bed it is with the curtain open and I don't do anything with him that I would do during the nigth ie wrapping, music, etc. I am pretty sure he can tell the difference between night and day by what happens. Also I rarely let him fall asleep on the boob. They say (experts, MCHN, etc) that they should be going to bed awake not already asleep. I know this is difficult and it is bound to happen sometimes but it shouldn't be all the time otherwise they will not be able to put themselves to sleep without the boob. If Dylan falls asleep during a feed and I feel he needs to finish or have more I will take his socks off or sit him up or unbutton his his grosuit, etc and this usually wakes him enought to finish. I hope this helps feel free to ask anymore questions if you want.

Mumof2beauties Welcome to the group. Feel free to read what I have written to Boisey as it relates to what you have written.

Baiza Did you get my email?

To those who had vaginal births is anyone having issues with bladder control (sorry if TMI)? I am trying to do perlvic floor exercises but forget most days.

Had our fourth mothers group yesterday and we talked about stimulating our babies had some good ideas. Is everyone doing tummy time with their bubs?

Hi Haley! You are more than welcome...this is a great group of groovin girls...Im sure you get heaps out of it! Ky was born on the same day as Jensen!! Sorry to hear that your having the same problems as me with Ky re feeding.... but your doing very well especially with gorgeous little girls to look after as well... you must be super mum!
Im feeding as i type...still no sleep today... :eek:
love
cyn

Ohhh Cas! Your a gem!!!
thankyou so much for your advice babe...I will give it a red hot go tonight.... anything has to be better than what im going through now...lol! And whay your doing with Dylan makes soooo much sense...I think I have read too many books and just confused myself...
As for your question... i do my pelvic floor twice a day while
I brush my teeth, but i forget too...and I had a vaginal birth and everything seems pretty much back to normal...but we havent DTD yet... Ill wait till my 6 week check up!
And as for catching up...Id love to...we live in box hill now...but Im happy to meet where ever...I think KMH (kelly) lives in pakenham....we should organise it!!!

gotta run... Jensen just threw all over me!! lol!!!!!!!

Cassie - yep - I'm doing tummy time with Danielle. I've been doing it since she was about 3-4 weeks old. The clinic nurse said it was good for them and I can see a huge improvement in Danielle's sitting up. I don't do it every day or when she's tired and grizzly but she can happily play like that and usually falls asleep afterwards for a catnap or when she starts to cry then I pick her up. She also loves the nuddy tummy time. I just make sure I have a plastic change mat and a towel under her so I can catch the wee!! I had a vaginal birth but I don't seem to have any bladder problems. Just keep doing your pelvic floors.

Mumof2 - welcome!! Don't be afraid to chat on here. Everyone goes thru the exact same thing at some stage. I was feeling very down about 2 weeks ago when Danielle was 6 weeks old. Please let it out and we'll all help you if we can.

Shell - hang in there babe!! I know it's frustrating when they do it (Danielle was like that all morning) but they will grow out of it. You are doing a wonderful job.

Cyn - you poor dear. This is what I do with Danielle. I bath her between 5-6 and then feed her. I wait until 7-7.30 and give her a top up feed. She usually sits with me until 8pm then I put her in her bed and said good night, tuck her in, put her lamp, her 'Pooh' light on and her soothing music and leave the room. She ususally falls asleep within half an hour. She doesn't cry as such, she almost talks herself to sleep. If she crys I go in and give her a cuddle for a while and try again but I don't have this very often. I don't swaddle her anymore as by the time they can roll over it's not a good idea to do that as they can get stuck in the blanket and suffercate. I'm quite lucky with Danielle that she's a good sleeper. You could do a google on Tizzy Hall. She's a sleep expert and she may be able to help with you with some info. I saw her a few weeks ago and one thing she said is that you shouldn't put them to sleep with a dummy in and that you should give them something like a crochet blanket with a satin edge. But I say each to their own!! Hang in there matie - you'll get there.

Not much to report here. Haven't heard from the doc yet about my test results. This cold/flu is getting worse and my patients with Danielle is becoming less because of it. DH went to the doc and got antibiotics for it as it's that bad. I'll just sit at home and ride it out.

Hope everyone else is doing OK. Take care everyone.

I have done two full feeds without the nipple shield today! From start to finish for 15 minutes and the other for about 10 minutes. I tried the other day on the right side and after about 5-10 minutes it was hurting a lot. The first time I tried today was on the left and it didn't hurt at all. The feed after that was on the right and it did hurt a little after a while. If it doesn't hurt at the start does that mean attachment is correct? It only hurts after awhile. Maybe it's just sensitive? I assume if attachment was wrong there would be pain straight away. Or maybe it's possible for Cooper to be attached correctly and then for his mouth to change position on my nipple?

Bubseykel – Sorry to hear about your cold/flu. It must feel awful to be so sick. I hope you feel better soon.

kmh – Thanks so much for the news on Dee. How scary. I also had a clot the size of my hand in hospital. I freaked out. But thankfully that was it – just the one big one. I hope Dee will be okay. Kelly – that's such a cute pic in your ticker!

chantal25 – How was the Mothers' Group? I had my first one yesterday and it went well.

baiza – Sorry I haven't had a chance to get onto the chat room yet. I will try tomorrow.

Boisey – Sorry I don't have much advice on sleeping at night. Cooper is great. It's during the day when he is bad! At night I just feed, change nappy and offer the other side. Then I pop him in the cot and go. That's it. I guess I'm lucky that he can self-settle at night. I hope Jensen improves soon. I know how frustrating it can be as Cooper frustrates me during the day sometimes. He hates to sleep in his cot for some reason. But at night he is fine.

Shellbabe – Yay for being shield free! Congrats!

mumof2beauties – Welcome to the group! :hello:

Cassie – No issue with bladder control here. I hope it improves for you. I've been really slack with pelvic floor exercises. I feel bad!

And yes I do tummy time with Cooper. Sometimes he falls asleep though! I've been doing it since he was born.

i did i thought i sent you the link dosent matter ill send it again
bubs iv sent you yours too

Forum Name:Muma
State:vic
Baby's DOB:4-7-06
Weight - 8pound11-3960g
Length -51.5cm
Head Circ -35.5cm
Gender of Baby: male
Baby's Name:lachlan robert
Baby's Website:none
Health Concerns: none whats so ever his very healthy boy
Notes: he is such a darlin, sleeps all night and is just adroable

Fee - from what I remember from in hospital they said there should be no pain what so ever when BFing. It could be possible that Cooper is slowly sliding off during his feed and that's why it's OK to start with and not later on. Maybe try reattaching him half way through the feed and see if that helps. Danielle won't sleep in her cradle during the day either unless she's having one of those sleeping all day days. Infact she doesn't sleep much during the day at all. I'm lucky if she had 3 half an hour cat naps per day but she sleeps well at night from 8ish to 4-6ish so I guess I can't really complain.

Baiza - I didn't get the e-mail from you. Can you please re-email it to EagleEyeChick@hotmail.com

Muma - welcome to our group.

I got Mum to take me to the doctor this morning. The flu is not good. I woke up sweating and now I'm cold. My body is aching and Danielle feels like she's 100 kilos to pick her up. Hopefully the antibiotics are going to kick in soon and fix me up.

I'm hoping Danielle will have a longer sleep this afternoon as she's been up since 6 and is in a happy mood today.

:hello:
Bubs- i hope you are feeling better soon, i felt like that when i had mastitis.

Boisey- i have trouble getting Charlotte to sleep at the start of the night, i try patting and rubbing her eyes to get her to sleep, sometimes i just have to put her into bed with me, but then after she has her feed about 2am she goes down fine, i just wrap her and she goes down. During the day she sleeps in her swing and sometimes she can sleep in their for 3 hours. Also i would love to meet up with you and cassie, Biazar also lives in melb too.

Muma- welcome, i love the name Lachlan

Fee- Dee said that she will be on when she has more energy. when we took the photo of the girls Madison didn't want to give Charlotte back, she loves giving her cuddles.

Mumof2beauties- welcome, sometimes i have thought about putting Charlotte on the bottle, as madison was alot more settled when she was bottle feed, but i really like bf so i am not going to.

Yesterday was a nightmare, Charlotte was so upset all afternoon, i ended up getting KFC for tea as i couldn't put her down otherwise she would cry. and she wanted to be feed very 1hr.:eek: But today she is better.

Fee - mothers group went great - got some advise about the craked nipple thing and it seems to be working.
Zac still is really unsettled he hasnt been the same since coming back from the hospital 2 weeks ago. he wont sleep unless i laydown next to him if i move he wakes up. I try putting him in his cot but he crys until he is picked up. he also wants to be fed every 2 hours where it use to be 4. I feel like pulling my hair out. I booked in to QE2 in 2 weeks but looks like im coming down with something now.
Zacs crying again for another feed so i will pm everyone tomorrow after the LC visit

Morning all...here's hoping you got a decent rest last night. My little man had his first 4 hr stretch between feeds last night, which meant 3 hrs of uninterrrupted sleep for me...yay!!
I have decided against bottle feeding Ky, after standing at target yesterday staring at bottles, teats, sterilizers etc. I am going to perservere with the BF, because I am told things do get better and times between feeds does increase. I must admit I do enjoy being the only one to feed and comfort him like that.
Hope you and your bubbas are well

Cooper has broken his record again for longest time between feeds overnight. He made it to 9 hours this time. I fed him at 5.00 pm and he woke at 2.00 am. It would be great if his last feed of the night was later than 5.00 pm … oh well never mind. One day I guess he'll sleep through completely so I'll just wait until then. I did think about trying to wake him for a rollover feed around 9-10 pm … but then decided nah.

Cooper is such a great night time sleeper. I've been very lucky with him so far. After his last feed (usually 5-6 pm) he goes down in his cot without a peep. So Mark and I have a nice time cooking dinner together and spending time together watching a bit of TV! I usually go to bed around 8.30 pm.

Cooper is being a very good boy today and sleeping well in his cot. Although sometimes he doesn't sleep very long. And I find that he often wakes too early for his feed. That is, it will only be 2 hours since his last feed and I'm positive he is not hungry. So he often has play time before his feed now – not so much after.

Bubseykel – I give up with trying without the nipple shield. It's too hard! I'm just going to keep using it. It's much better for the both of us. I was so impressed with how I was going though – for those few feeds but by the time it came to the 5.30 am feed, I was so engorged Cooper could not attach. So yeah I give up!

kmh – Hope Charlotte is settled for you today. Did she have a good night last night?

chantal25 – Cooper used to feed every 4 hours too. But now it's more like every 3. Sometimes every 2. I've just come to terms that this is how it is for now. I know that some people's bubs have always feed every 2-3 hours. I guess I was so used to it being every 4!

mumof2beauties – That's great to hear Ky slept longer than usual last night. Yay for Ky!!! And that's great you want to keep going with BF-ing. I hope it works out for you.