Babies Born July - December 2004 #3

Jessica - wow, sorry that Aiden got sick on your holiday. It's always terrible when they get sick, but especially when you're away. Silly doctor. Hope everything starts to settle down soon.

Mitch - you poor thing with sick bubs too! Wow, there must be something in the water down there atm. Sending lots of healthy vibes your way.

Not much to report here. I could be sleeping now while Charlie is, but I have too much washing to do and I want to get dinner cooked so that I can hang out with DH when he gets home because he's FINALLY not going to his other job or a rehearsal tonight. How sad is that?! I sound like a 1950s housewife. Went and did the grocery shopping - I wonder how I will manage to do that with two of them? Charlie has just started to get to the stage where he grizzles at the shop so I have to bring a snack for him to eat while we're shopping, but when there's two of them grizzling I'll probably go nuts! You never know, this baby might be an angel...

Anyway, better go and do some of that work that I'm staying awake for instead of writing to you lovely ladies. Hope you're all having a lovely day.

Hello, hope everyone is well!

Jess, you poor thing, sorry to hear your w/end was so stressful, hope Aidan is on the mend and that he is back to his normal, well-behaved self!

Mitch, sounds like a nightmare at your house... hope your kids are getting better too, I can't imagine how hard it would be to have 4 of them all sick at once, you really are amazing!

Kellee, I am really worried about taking two of them to the shops too, or taking two of them anywhere for that matter! We will just have to use Mitch as our inspiration. LOL at sounding like a 1950s housewife, not at all, I totally understand! My DH works long days, and then I am sometimes a rehearsal widow at night too, you just crave adult company (well, especially DH's!) after a day of full-on baby!

Well, I got my new (2nd hand but new to me!) car yesterday which is very exciting! Went for a big drive this morning to get used to it, as it's a bit bigger than my old car, Kaleb has been relegated to sitting behind a seat in preparation for the new baby, so he is a bit whingier in the car now, maybe cos he can't see out the front window? In addition, today is the very first time since he was a baby that he is point blank refusing to go to sleep. I put him down at midday, left him kicking the walls till 1, got him up for an hour to try & tire him out some more, put him down at 2 and he is still kicking the walls and calling out. I think I'm going to have to give in and get him up, but I know he's going to be feral until bedtime!

Michelle, my sister's in-laws own a cabin in Porepunkah! They recently sold their on-site van. I know what you mean about not being able to afford things, I cant afford a hair cut!

Jo, I cant believe you are 31weeks, I bet you are looking forward to the finish line (pain excepted)!

I struggle managing 1 at the supermarket let alone even thinking about 2. I must admit to being a little naughty and getting grapes (with every intention to pay for all of them) but by the last aisle Aidan seems to have eaten most of theml, and it does keep him quiet!

Oh Jo! I hope Kaleb returns to his normal self soon! Charlie has done that once or twice for no apparent reason before - I hope it's just a one-off for you! Yay on the new car too. Charlie has been grizzlier in the car too - maybe it's just the age they're at. What instrument does DH play? Do you play anything too? Chances are that we probably know of each other through someone - the Brisvegas music scene is incestuous!

Better get back to my dinner before it burns!

bye bye.

Snap Jessica!

Jess, Kaleb is a shocker for grapes at the supermarket! They are pretty much his favourite food anyway, so as soon as I put them in the trolley he sees them and starts grizzling, so I slip him a couple and we're all happy!

Kellee, DH is a drummer, he has been in a few bands over the years that have played around the Valley, none well known (unless you were ever an Indie Temple regular!) His last band wound up not long after Kaleb was born, but they still get together to play and record stuff themselves. DH got an electronic kit which means he can keep up his practice at home too. No, I don't play anything, I am just a seasoned groupie, LOL!

Wish DH could get an electronic French horn! Unfortunately I don't think there is such a thing. They're so loud - Charlie doesn't seem to mind. DH has been practicing while Charlie goes to sleep at night since he was about 6 months old! Wish I could practice too, but the piano is on the wall adjoining Charlie's room. :( Oh well, one day...

OMG! I need to vent for a moment!

Lily is so testing my boundaries at the moment, it's giving me the S#!@%
The tantrums just will not stop. I say no, she whinges louder, i raise my voice a little, she turns into a complete drama queen. Yells no at me and screams and thrashes herself around. She is getting into so much trouble and she totaly knows it and laughs about it. If i go into a shop, her arms stick right out trying to grab everything in her reach! Will this very end? She is starting on DF too. We can't handle it anymore! I admit, some of this is contributed to pregnancy hormones, but come on! It's worse than i've ever seen any toddler behave before!

Tegan huge hugs to you. Sounds like Lily is pushing the boundaries big time, they all do it so take comfort in the fact that she is normal. Being pg doesn't help cos you are extra tired and emotional. All I can offer is be consistent with her, whatever you do to control the tantrums, even if it is taking her to her room and leaving her there keep doing it. Sometimes it is best to get a bit of space between you an her esp when you are feeling crazy. Josh is the worst pusher, and sometimes I just have to leave the room or even the house.

Jo I can't believe you are 31 weeks, that did go quick, Yay on the car too, brand new or used a new car is so nice.


And girls the trick is don't take kids to the supermarket LOL, go late if you have to rather than take kids for shops, I only take kids for very short stints LOL

Mcihelle

sorry ive been slack in posting in here - have been reading what everyone is up to be the last few weeks have been busy - spent time in brisbane with eliana's other nan & time with her dad twice plus ive sold my car so am busy organising all the things that have to be done etc - had my SIL drop her kids here for what i thought was a two hours but ended up being all day!! i dont mind having them here just 2 toddlers & 2 older kids is a nightmare when you have stuff to do - eliana has been good which has been great as that's one less thing to worry too much about IYKWIM - we are going to bris tomorrow to drop the car off then hopefully life will be back to normal next - well as normal as it can be with a toddler
will catch up with personals soon ;)

Big hugs to you Tegan, you definitely sound like you need them! It is so bloody hard, isn't it? Kaleb sounds quite similar to Lily, he is testing me all the time. He needs constant stimulation, if I try to take a moment for myself while he's awake, he touches everything he is not supposed to, and totally ignores my "no, no, NO!" Taking him out is a nightmare because he is no longer content to just sit there in his stroller/trolley and take in the surroundings, he whinges the whole time. It makes for long days when you don't know anyone else with kids to hang out with, and Kaleb is far too antisocial for playgroup. Don't know what to suggest mate, just wanted to say I understand and feel free to vent here anytime, because I know I do!!

Mel, good to hear from you, wow, you have been busy again! Hope things go smoothly with your car, and that you get to relax a bit!

hi girls

another one being slack here sorry

kellee - how are you going, counting down those days - i have been popping into the may thread checking up on you lol

michelle - how are the kiddies, i noticed you had a few sickies poor thing, hope they are all better and back to school

tegan - hugs to you, it is hard when they reach this age. it is frustrating for the children to they can't communicate what they want and half the time they don't even know what they want. time will come when lily is all grown up and running off with her friends and you will wonder where that time went.

jo - maybe try kaleb at something physical to get his energy out of his system. gymbaroo or something. lani does gymnastics once a week (she is not good at it all lol) but she is learning to socialise and is also learning to sit on the mat and listen to the teacher - must admit i have to chase her around half the time but she is getting there.

mel - hooray on selling your car, are you getting a new one? nice to hear eliana is giving you peace lol.

jess - hope aidyn is better, and like michelle said go to the shops without them or shop online. i must admit lani is an angel when we shop. she takes her handbag and sits in the trolley looking through her little books and has a roll from bakers delight that she munches on, she knows after we have done the shopping she can get out of the trolley to sit down and have a baby cino.

lani is great into everything and just loves keys, she is currently walking around the house with her handbag over her shoulder and a set of keys in each hand yelling out "bye bye" to whoever will listen. her latest trick is to come up to me all the time and "grunt" and thrust something in my face, once i tell her what it is she repeats it and says hooray - she has learnt colours from doing this and can tell me blue, pink, red and green. she loves to draw lol. she is also a nightmare in the pram but i try and ignore her as much as possible, i always had a rule with my kids that they stay in the pram at a big shopping centre but at our little local shops they can walk holding hands - it worked for the other 2 and it is a challenge to get it to work with lani atm - but perserverance is the key and i dare not take her out of the stroller. if i want to look for clothes or something then i might get a lolly pop for her to keep quiet - very rarely do i do this but it is a real treat and i can get around 1/2 hrs peace lol.

anyway gotta go - cooking dinner and i am feeling very green, hope that is a good sign wish me luck girls.

take care and chat soon

Michelle, good luck, hope you get a BFP really soon!

Michelle, :crossfingers: that you get a BFP this month. When are you testing? Lani sounds so cute at the moment - I love the handbag thing.

Tegan, sorry to hear that Lily is trying you so much at the moment. I'm sure that we all feel like we have the most troublesome toddler on earth sometimes. Yasin has realised that I only get up when I'm breastfeeding for the biggies so he uses the time to test the boundries

*Imran woke up so I forgot everything I was going to say*

re shopping centers and supermarkets - In shopping centers if I'm alone I keep Yasin in the pram with food to distract him and I try to let him out in the play areas a couple of times to stretch his legs. When DH comes along we let him out and DH chases him around.
In the supermarket we give him a cheese and pineapple roll from the bakery next door which keeps him busy for a while and DH has also given himself the job of shopping inspector. So everything we buy (unless its too heavy or breakable) goes through Yasin's hands first and after he has given it the the ok he puts it in the trolley. I'm not sure what we'll do when Imran is older. Maybe by then Yasin will be old enough to have his own little list which will keep him busy.

Yasin is being a little sweety with Imran. He calls him Umum and he gives him oodles of kisses and cuddles (which isn't so sweet when Imran is sleeping LOL). He also tries to rock him when he wakes up and cries and luckily for me about 30% of the time it actually works so I just have to keep an eye on them and I can keep doing whatever I want. Yasin does have his jealous moments when he wants a cuddle at the same time but luckily he gets angry at me and DH not Imran.
At the start I thought I was crazy for having 2 but I seem to be adjusting a bit better now and i really enjoy seeing my two babies together. Imran seems to be really interested in Yasin too. He always watches him really closely.

Sorry for being so slack lately. Hopefully now that things are starting to settle down a bit here I will be able to post more and lurk less.

Dasch- it is gorgeous to see the 2 together, Jess and Jem are gorgeous together too, except when they pull each others hair and stuff LOL I was glad I had the two at the end close and that they were both girls cos they play house together now and it's soi cute, of course one helped the other to my lipstick the other day and that wasn't too funny.

Michelle- wishing your BFP is there this time, baby dust galore your way.

Mel- you and 4 kids sounded busy just like my house lol, lucky you can give them back LOL Glad to hear things are going to settle soon, did you buy yourself a different car?

Anyway must go visit my niece at my mum's

Hello to everybody else
Have a super weekend
michelle

Tegan – IKWYM about the tantrums. I hope that they stop soon – I bet every other toddler goes through it too, just that you don’t see it because we’re all too afraid to take our kids out! Hope you’re feeling better about it soon. All I can suggest is what we do with Charlie, which is to totally ignore the tantrums. The first few times were really hard, but now he knows that we don’t cave in and he usually only lasts a few minutes before going to play with something else. I hate being the tough one, but I figured that he needs to know that Mummy can’t be at his beck and call NOW before No. 2 comes, otherwise it will get really tough. He seems to be learning, so I hope you have the same luck with Lily. Good luck and let us know how you go. Big hugs to you. How’s the pg going? Are you feeling ok?

Mel – wow, you sounds busy! Hope you’ve had a chance to rest since you last posted!

Mooshie – hello! Have missed you, mate! I really hope that the BFP is just around the corner for you. Lani sounds soooooo cute with the handbag! That’s classic. Sounds like she’s a clever cookie too with her colours. Charlie is starting to get the hang of it, but he certainly can’t actually say the words.

Jessica – wow, you’re due for testing today. Hope the BFP comes soon!

Dach – I got all teary reading about your two little darlings together. It gives me hope that I may actually be able to make this thing work! And I think we can forgive you for not posting as much… you do have your hands full, after all! I hear you on the shopping – I do just the same thing. I put Charlie in the pram and make sure I have some fruit bread or something on hand for when he gets sick of putting things in the trolley for me. Shopping is fine with him now, but I’m worried about it when No. 2 comes. I hope that Charlie is as good with him as Yasin is with Imran. I’m really glad you’re enjoying it all.

Hello to Mitch, Jo and everyone else I missed too.

Been a bit boring lately. Just trying to spend as much time at home with my two favourite boys (the big one and the little one) as possible before the new favourite boy comes along. Been trying to get all my washing up to date, but it just never ends! DH has been home a bit more of late because he’s FINALLY finished the work at his second job. We even managed to go out to dinner on Saturday night! And we’re doing it again on Friday night! Who would have thunk it… I can’t wait for when he has a month off when No. 2 comes. Although his leave hasn’t been approved yet… he put in for it in January and because of one thing or another that has come up since then his manager hasn’t been able to finalise it yet. I’m getting a bit nervous now – he was going to have a month off from mid-June, which would be perfect timing but if he can’t get that off I don’t know what I’ll do. Could be very stressful around here if it doesn’t happen. Please all keep your fingers crossed for me!

Actually, I have a question to ask of you… Charlie’s ‘big boy bed’ is all set up in his room now. He seems to be pretty excited about it, and I want to get him into it as soon as possible. I was thinking that once we’ve got all his toys in storage boxes in his room (hopefully tomorrow) we could start putting him in there at night (when the toys won’t distract him) and then once he’s used to that we could start the daytime sleeps in the big bed too. Has anyone else got any ideas? I want to make the transition as smooth as possible, but I want it to be as quick as possible too, so that he’s got time to get used to it before the baby comes. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated!

Right, must go and fold washing and then go to bed. Hope you’re all doing well.

Hi kellee
I know when I moved the babies from bassinette to cot I put them in there in the day and then moved them in there in the night. I would prob try day sleeps first and then night sleeps. unless you think you can't keep him in during the day.

Not much happening here, should have done some sewing today but we went to friends for dinner and too tired, if I am tired I will make mistakes and I can't afford it so I opted to sit in front of the heater and watch stupid tv.

see ya and hope there are BFP's all round.

hugs michelle

Hello girls,

I was looking for our thread for a while but seem to have overlooked that we have been crammed into a big one. (doh!)

So big HI to the July - October mummies that I haven't met yet on another thread :smt039

Well, I have 2 little ones, Wolf who is now 17 months and Zara who is 2 months. I have had 2 caesareans (both emergency) and had PPH after Zara's birth which went unnoticed and had my blood pressure dropping to 60/30 and made me really weak and I ended up staying in hospital for 10 whole days. Feeling much better now and have even returned to the gym as I need to lose 9kg to get to my pre-Wolf weight (or 5kg to get to my pre-Zara weight).

Tegan, sorry to hear about the tantrums. When I was p/g with Zara I also had the feeling that Wolf was a lot more difficult. Maybe they can sense that something is up... I wonder... when Wolf chucks a tantrum (luckily not that often but boy, when he does, there is nothing to calm him down) we end up just ignoring him and sometimes put him for a time out in his cot until he has calmed down. The other day we were out with his little ride-on car and he insisted on driving it into the busy high street in Chelsea. Of course I wouldn't let him and he chucked the hugest tanty. We were at a really nice cafe and EVERYONE was just staring. I tried so hard not to be embarrassed and just carried him under one arm like a sack of potatoes, dragged the car with my other arm and tried to ignore the stares. :oops: We must have been quite a sight...

Dasch: lol on sometimes feeling crazy for having 2 so close together. I thought at the beginning as well "OMG - this is going to be a nightmare" but like Yasin, Wolf is also really sweet with his sister and will give her the dummy (sometimes his from his mouth and not hers) when she cries and tries to pick her up and lug her around the house. So cute! He also has the jealous moments but like Yasin also directs any anger at me and not Zara. I really look fwd to when she is older and they can play together. He so loves playing with his cousins and it will be great for him to have a playmate.

So Mooshie is TTC? How exciting! I have missed out on quite a bit it seems! Fingers crossed for a BFP!

Wolf is having a serious word explosion at the moment. He picks up a couple of new words every day. It's really freaky! He can now say in English: toast, door, cow, nose, mouse, digger, man, bike, dog, juice, cold, boob (ha ha! it wasn't taught.. he picked it up from SIL who is mortified, lol) oh and a few others I don't remember right now. In German he has some of the same words and some different ones and even a few 2 syllable ones: Himmel (sky/heaven) and Bauer (farmer) which he just loves to say over and over. I can't believe how much he picks up every day.

I have decided I need a double pram/stroller for the 2 as Wolf is just not walking far and fast enough to get anywhere with him and Zara will soon be too heavy to be carried for long distances in the Baby Bjorn. So am trying to get a Phil & Ted's which proves a bit more complicated over here... arrrrg.. if I had known I would have gotten MIL and SIL to bring one over when they came 1 week ago.

Hmmmmmmm... what else to report?? TOnight I will go and see a play with SIL. One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest with Christian Slater. So excited!

Snowy

Wow at all these baby saying words! I'm starting to get worried that Lily isn't saying anything other than mum and dada. I thought she was saying hello but i don't think it is now, just babble. I try teaching her and showing pictures etc but she just won't say anything. Is something wrong? I'm really worried.

One thing i'm proud of though is that she learnt how to catch a ball the other day! It looks so cute.

Tegan, don't you worry about Lily talking. Yasin still babbles too but he understands what we say and he has a funny habit of saying a word a couple of times and then never again. Yesterday he said gentle after I told him to be gentle but I'm geussing that I won't hear it again for ages. When he's ready to talk more he will and so will Lily.

Snowy, its good to see you in here. Sorry you're suffering from tanties too but I geuss we all have to go through it.

Soooo funny!!! Yasin has his first crush!! He has a book of colours - every time you turn the page it has a differant colour and a couple of pictures. The pink page has a little girl in a long pink dress - every time we read the book he goes straight to the pink page and kisses the little girl. The funniest thing is that the orange page has a little girl in a towel and the black page has a little boy and he doesn't care for them PMSL!!!!

HI everyone

Snowy so glad to hear from you and to hear that all is going well. Can I ask what PPH is? Hope you get the pram you want. I have a limo style pram and couldn't go anywhere with the 2 litlle ones without it. Unfortunately Jessica can climb out of it which slows me down somewhat.

Tegan- I agree with the talking thing. Jess is saying many things now but she is almost 20 months, my gf 's dd is 3 mths younger and says almost nothing, but she understands everything. If Lily can follow your instructions, like "Go get your shoes!" for example then I wouldn't worry either. Some kids talk early and some late. Josh was a late talker. Jemma couldn't shut up and neither could Jordan. Jessica isn't as vocal as the other 2 girls but not as quiet as Josh.

Hi to everyone els, I have my fingers crossed for some BFP's very soon.

we went out for tea tonight to meet Arron's cousin, who was singing at a pub near here for a 50th bday and we ended up at the 50th party, we were sitting up the back but when the singing started the kids couldn't control themselves and they hit the dance floor, there weren't that many people there but they were Harley riders lol, the bday man said to join in and they all loved the kids up and dancing away. Of course Arron couldn't bring himself to leave when we should of and so Josh had a headache and Jess was falling asleep inmy arms, men never can stop when they should so I am ****ty with him.

Anyway best be going
have a good Anzac day tomorrow
michelle

Well that's another thing i'm worried about. Lily doesn't follow instructions like, go get this, go get that. Like i would say 'get the ball Lily' and point but she will just look at me like im stupid and wont even look at what im pointing to.

Tegan have you spoken to your MCHN about it, because they usually do assessments which are supposed to pick up any developmental delays etc. WHat does Lily do? What sorts of things I mean? Other than the talking is there other things you are concerned about? Maybe you should talk to the MCHN about her hearing and get that tested and rule out that first.

cheers michelle

Well i know she doesnt have a hearing problem because every time we call her name or say no or something she'll look straight at me. I've been to an mchn about this before and she just told me to stop worrying.

To me, its like she is stubborn about talking and following instructions but i don't see how that is possible. Its like talking to a brick wall sometimes lol.

Tegan- that is good about the hearing. It is quite possible that she is being stubborn LOL, which doesn't help you stress less but is not a super bad scenario. Some kids just do what they want when they want and not a minute before. It is hard not to worry, I worry about Jess being so small and she is the 4th, it's perfectly natural. If you are not happy with the MCHN's assessent then maybe talk to your gp and get a referral oif you are really worried, otherwise I guess it is just a waiting game. Kep encouraging her to talk and just see what happens. If she wants something and grunts for it then tell her the word and don't give it to her with just a grunt instead of a word. It is hard too bc pg makes you hormonal too which can make things seem so much worse than they are. I founf with Josh too he would talk his people, (little people) and have 2 talking to each other and be waffling away. Maybe play with her with dolls and people and talk to them, see what she does. She may talk to a doll and act like a mummy.

try to not get too worried
best wishes michelle

Tegan, I don't think that its impossible that Lily is stubborn about following instructions. Sometimes you would think Yasin was deaf too but if I ask him if he wants to come and get a cheese stick he suddenly has perfect hearing ROFL.
The sooner they talk the sooner they talk back so I'm just enjoying these last few months of the babbling. It sounds so cute - I recorded a bit the other day.

I'm definatly getting the grunts when she wants something lol but if i try to get her to say the word or even just 'ta' she'll throw a huge tantrum. And yes pregnancy seems to make it a whole lot worse than it is lol. Its just so very frustating.

Tegan- if you ignore the tantrums they do stop, Jess often chucks one, if I give her a drink and it's not what she wants, I just put it on the bench and say "it's there". And walk away and after about 30 secs to a min she stops crying and drinks the drink LOL. It isn't easy sometimes but if you persevere it will work, or at least the tantrums will get shorter.

hugs Mcihelle

Hi everyone!

Snowy, great to hear from you and that you are all well!

Tegan, just keep talking to Lily, I think that is how Aidan understands most things. It is just me and him at home most times, so I find myself talking to him a lot!

Not much to report here, Aidan is H & H and I am getting sleep again. DH and I had a 'chat' about TTC#2 and we are pretty ready so we are thinking of giving it a go this month, one month off, then into it again in June/July. Very excited. One of my very good friends is pg so FINALLY I will have someone to chat with about all the stuff that we talk about here!

Yay Jess, hope you get it first shot LOL! GOod luck!

Nothing to report from me, just a normal day, I am sick of 4 day weeks though cos the kids are overtired and out of routine.

MIL arrived home from Mackay and spent ages here this morning, she brought the kids books and Jordan got a bag as a present and she brought me a bra, 2 pairs of g strings and a singlet top, and Arron a shirt and some deoderant spray. I was glad she didn't bring toys. And nice to buy me somethng too. I am trying to organise her to have the kids sunday so I can drag Arron to Ikea. Arron is tired and falling asleep on the couch cos him and his mate hired a dingo and dug out some of each of our backyards, so he left here bf 7. Unfortunately for me that means I have to get the kids to bed myself and then get back to sewing. Have 3 jobs to do and running out of time.

Have a good night and day tomorrow
michelle

Michelle, bummer on having to single parent last night. I hope you got your sewing done.

Jess, Yay for Aidan feeling better and letting you get some sleep. Good luck TTC.

I'm so sad today - my little cat had to go :cry: . He's gone all wierd and schizo lately and he started using our bed instead of his litter tray :feelsick: . I've tried everything I can think of except the anti-depressants and we can't afford those. I can't live with an animal that craps in my bed so we've given him to the RSPCA in the hopes that he will be adopted by a child-free family. He's a very beautiful Siamese so hopefully someone will want him.
We'll have to get Yasin a new cat now - I hope it works out better.

Dach, so sorry to hear about your poor cat, but it sounds like you did the right thing, you have your hands full enough as it is. LOL at Yasin's crush, that is so gorgeous!

Mitch, sounds like MIL did well with the gifts! LOL at Jess's tantrums, sounds EXACTLY like Kaleb...he chucks one when I offer him his drink, I put it down and walk away and a minute later he starts drinking it and all is forgotten.

Jess, good to hear from you, how exciting to be back on the TTC wagon, I'll have my fingers crossed for you!

Tegan, it is so hard not to worry about these things, isn't it? Kaleb can only say a few words, but understands most things, so I'm not too stressed yet, I'm sure they get to a point where they're learning a new word every day and we'll wonder what we ever worried about! But big hugs, the pg with toddler thing is tough!!

Snowy, so great to hear from you! Glad that you are doing so well. It is lovely to hear about Wolf with Zara, I am hoping Kaleb will be the same with his little sis!

Not a lot happening here, Kaleb is still very active and only seems to be happy if I'm active too ie. if I'm doing the vacuuming or something he'll happily occupy himself, but if I sit down and read a mag he gets really upset and starts harrassing me - little slave driver! Have been housebound all day, so I think we'll be off to the park this arvo...

Hi everyone. I won’t stay for long – for some reason I’m feeling a bit crook. Hope it’s just a once off. I haven’t been able to pop in because of more computer dramas, but DH has the day off tomorrow and he assures me that he’ll be able to fix it then. Here’s hoping because I can’t keep up with you gals otherwise!

Snowgirl – Hi there! I’m glad there’s another one coping with having two close together. Makes me not feel like such a fool! I don’t know why everyone at the shops has to comment on it… I feel like punching them out! I’m getting a double pram tomorrow so I’m glad you mentioned the Phil and Ted’s one – I’ll have to keep an eye out for it. Congratulations on the new addition too – I’m glad to hear that things are going well.

Tegan – I’m sure everything is ok with Lily, but I know it’s scary when you’re worried about stuff. Charlie only says four words (mum/bub/dad/nan) at the moment. I bet they’ll have word explosions like Wolf anyday now and we’ll wish they never started talking! The pg makes it all a bit more stressful but maybe once you’re a few more months along the hormones will settle down a bit and it will seem easier. Fingers crossed for you. Congratulations to Lily on learning to catch a ball… funny that you mention it because Charlie did too yesterday! I bet they’d get on really well.

Dach – I laughed so hard at Yasin’s crush! That is just too cute. Funny how they get fixated on things like that. You’ll have to be careful when he starts school! Sorry about your poor cat too – sometimes people don’t realise how special family pets can be.

Jo – funny about Kaleb wanting your attention when you’re resting – Charlie does that too. Little buggers! Hope you had a nice time at the park. How’s the pg going? Are you feeling ok?

Went for a GP check up today – I wasn’t originally going to have one but with the problems I had last week it was recommended that I go every week from now on. It turns out that I have sciatica – no wonder I’m so bloody sore. I figured as much. I have terrible lower back pain and pains in my right buttock which sends shooting pains all down my right leg. I’ve forgotten what sleep is as I can’t sleep for more than an hour without cramping up. It’s driving me crazy! Scary to think that I may sleep better when bubs comes than I am now! The GP also commented, “Wow, he’s really low, isn’t he?”… and she’s the second GP to do so! Scary stuff… I hope that doesn’t mean that he comes too early. Anytime from the 15th (two weeks early) is fine with me but not before.

Another milestone too – we’ll finally have a cot for No. 2 because Charlie is now officially a big boy and has slept for two nights in his big bed. I was a bit teary the first night (because my little boy is growing up!) but I’m really proud of him. It’s good that we won’t have to buy another cot too. We’re going to see if he wants to sleep in there in the daytimes from tomorrow – I hope he doesn’t get out of bed and play with his toys instead. He wanted to go in there this afternoon instead of his cot but I wouldn’t let him, so hopefully if I lay down the law and tell him that if he gets out of bed then he goes in his cot again he’ll listen and stay in there.

Anyway, I’m off to watch House (and dream about Hugh Laurie!) and then have an early night. Hope you’re all well.

BUsy in here girls, that's nice

Dasch- I think you have done the right thing with the cat too, you can't have that. so Yasin isa ladies man, does he have that gorgeous look that makes all the ladies coo too LOL?

Kellee- you poor thing with your backa nd no sleep, I was like that with Josh and it was awful. You know I also got the comments from people when I was pg with Jess, about how I would have my hands full once the baby came and that was when I went to the shops with Jemma and my pg belly. I would say that I actually had 2 kids a t school and then they didn't know what to say. Why do people have to say stupid things though? Pg women can be nervous and worried about things without having others try to make it worse. You will cope, and sometimes you won't, you have super days and sometimes you have awful days but that is the same no matter how many you have and how close together they are. DON"T LISTEN!!! (steps down off the soapbox)!!!!LOL
Have fun pram shopping. And so glad the bed has worked. Jess can climb out of her cot and I just don't let her out of her room and eventually she sleeps, if he does get out he can get back in so I think he will be fine.

Jo- Kaleb is a bugger wanting you to move all the time, Jess never sits still either and is awful when I sit at the sewing machine.

ALl sewed out, ran out of thread in the middle of a design and had to drive 45 mins ea way to get another cos they don't sell it in Kilmore, so gonna stick to the ones they do from now on. Petrol is way too dear for that to happen too much.

Jess is all clear of her gastro, and ate all of her dinner tonight too wich was a surprise.
have a lovely day everyone
michelle

Kellee, you poor thing, sciatica! I had it on & off last pg and it was horrible, but not nearly as bad as yours sounds. You must be exhausted with so little sleep & chasing after Charlie. But well done Charlie on sleeping in the big bed, that is fantastic, what a big boy! I had hopes that Kaleb might do that, save us buying a 2nd cot, but no way, he can't even associate the bed with sleeping at the moment, he has no self-discipline! I have hit the wall of tiredness...not sleepy tiredness, but just physical. After lugging Kaleb around for the whole dinner/bath/bed thing, I am so stuffed I can't get off the couch (DH doesn't get home from work till after Kaleb's bedtime) and when we go for a walk, even the most gentle of hills has me slowed down to 0.0001kph! Don't know how I'll get through these next 6 or so weeks...you'll be my inspiration! Hey, how did the pram shopping go? I've got a Valco Runabout, so we've just bought the toddler seat attachment for the front, but the Phil & Ted's are very cool - DH is always complaining that we should have got one of those instead, I think he just likes the whitewall tyres!

Grrr at stupid people and their stupid "oh, you'll have your hands full" comments...no $hit, I feel like saying! A classic I had on Monday...in the checkout queue in Coles, the woman standing next to me just said "so you're having another boy" and I said "no, it's a girl actually" and she said "no, it's definitely a boy, I can tell" ... what do you say to that? Didn't know whether to be peeved that she thought she knew better than an ultrasound, or to be scared that I'll have a pile of pink stuff to take back to KMart!

Mitch, glad that Jess is totally over the gastro. Thanks for your positive input on the whole 'close together' thing, it is always reassuring to hear from you on that. What kind of things do you sew? I would love to be a sewer, but I am useless at it!

OK, that's enough babbling from me, better go now!

Hello again. Well I’m trying to occupy myself while trying to get Charlie to sleep in his bed during the day… he loves it at night but through the day he keeps getting up to play with his toys. After a few times of going in there and telling him he has to stay in the bed or he’d go in the cot DH had to put him in the cot otherwise he won’t sleep. Don’t think he was too happy about that! Oh well, he has to learn. I can still hear him jumping up and down in is cot, little bugger! I hope he learns properly by the time No. 2 comes or there could be some troubles afoot! We’ll see.

Jo – gosh, I had to shake my head at the woman at Coles. Was she an older lady? Sometimes they think they know everything. I hope I don’t get like that when I’m older! Sorry you’re feeling tired too. That does suck. Just rest when you can and you’ll be fine. Wow, I just looked at your ticker – the time is really flying by, isn’t it?! Actually you’ve just made me scared – if you’re only 8 weeks away then that means I’m less than five weeks away and that’s not cool. Oh dear.

Mitch- glad Jess is feeling better. It’s terrible when they’re sick – poor thing. And it must be starting to get pretty cold down there too, which makes it worse. Oh, and don’t get off that soapbox – we all need the support and inspiration! Bugger that thread thing. Living in a country town has many advantages but that is NOT one of them!

Well I went pram hunting today without much success. The sales lady in the first place was really rude and unhelpful and they didn’t have a very big range in the second place I went to. So I think a trip out to the other side of town next week is in order – they have a big pram warehouse out there. I’ll have a browse online at the various different companies in the meantime to see what’s available so I’ve got a better idea of what I need. I did get some new sheets for us and Charlie, new pillows for us and another sheepskin for the pram for the new bub. They’re great and easily washable and so comfortable for bubs – Charlie loves his.

Anyway, might go and have a bit of a lie down – not sure how long Charlie will let me do that though! I can still hear him! He’s so cheeky. Hope you’re all having a lovely day.

can't stay long will come back and do proper catch up tonight hopefully, just wanted to let you know kellee of something i did with my kids when getting them to sleep in a bed during the day.

i had a cd/tape player in their room with batteries (no cord incase they wrapped it around their neck) anyway i got some of those book/tape things you know where you have the book and they read the story, i used to put that on during nap times and say lay down with your book and the lady on your cd player will read you a story, 99% of the time they would be asleep on their bed before the tape ended \:D/ . with my first dd i didn't have a tape deck or anything so what i did was turned the monitor around, put hers in front of our sterio and the parents one in her room then played the tape on our main stereo and it came through the monitor.

the tape really worked for us, and i used to say if they got out of bed before it finished then i would have to take it out of their room, my ds is nearly 6 and he still goes to bed with his own, although now he listens to the radio and i just turn it off before i go to bed at night, he loves laying in bed on a cold night listening to the footy lol.

might be worth a shot - you never know charlie might love it.

good luck, he certainly sounds like a cheeky monkey - how cute.

hi to all, back later to catch up

HI girls

Michelle- that sounds like a good idea, hopefully it works for Kellee.

Jo- that woman in the supermarket needs a good foot in the arse, KNOW ALLS!!!! Gosh I am sick of them. and I am not the one being told LOL I hope you feel less tired, maybeit's just your body saying time to sit!!

Kellee- hope you have some luck keeping Charlie in bed in the day. SOunds like an anniying days shopping, shame really cos you were oin the mood. I am sick of bad sales assistants. When I was at Spotlight the other day I was really ****ed off, they serve you and chat away to the other girls serving as if you aren't there, chatting about what they watch on tv etc. I worked in a supermarket and was always friendly and sociable to the people I was serving and I think it is rude to serve someone and chat as you do it to your friend.

Did groc first thing this morning withJess, while Jem was at Kinder was all finished by 10.10am so that was good. My house needs atention, I have started but want to get into Jess room and she is sleeping so can't. Will be out tonight for my brothers bday.
have a good one everybody
Michelle

Hey gals,

Not a bad idea, Mooshie, thanks for the tip. I don't know how Charlie would go with that one. We have started reading him a story before bed since he's been in the bed and we did the same today before he had his afternoon sleep. I think he may have FINALLY gone to sleep now! Only took him about 40 minutes in bed and about an hour in the cot to calm down! He wasn't upset, just lots of energy. Very unlike him - he's usually asleep within 15 minutes and sleeps for anything up to 2.5 hours. Hope he's not in the middle of changing a sleeping pattern right now or it could make it even more complicated!

Anyway, I think I might go and lie down while I have a chance. Just spent the last hour trying to find good three wheel non-side-by-side jogging prams. It's harder than it sounds! AAGGHH!! If I never see another pram again it will be too soon.

:rolleyes:

:sleeping:

Hi girls,

I dont have much news but just thought I should add a post as it has been a while since anyone posted!

Aidan is enjoying swimming lessons which he started last week. I get them at half price through work (they are sooo expensive, I dont think we could afford it otherwise). I think Aidan should have one other 'hobby' but I cant decide on which one. We have tried Gymbaroo and Mini-Maestro's which were both good but I am also interested in trying something new that may win us over. Any suggestions?

DH and I were ready to TTC#2 and right at the last minute DH has second thoughts so our romantic night last night turned into a D & M about DH being 99.9% sure but not 100%. It was a good chat but I dont want to 'win him over' I want him to be sure on his own but I got the impression today he is 100% ready. Let's wait and see.... ;)

Aidan is really well, although he seems to get a croaky voice from the swimming pool. He hasn't yet mastered the art of blowing bubbles but leaves his mouth wide open instead when he is under the water!

Kellee, I hope you had a restful lie down and have the energy back up to maximum level to run around after Charlie again!

Hope everyone is well.