I mean it Sara, I think I have nearly 10 years on you and some days I don't feel like I am in as half as much control as you and I only have one child. You are doing a fab job and I really mean it. And thanx for your comments too, I do my best and that is all anyone can ask. As for what you said, you are right, we have to all stop putting so much pressure on ourselves and realise that we can't always be in control.