Babies Born November 2006 #12

HEllo there girls! Wow you can chat!

Kim I would happily be pregnant again if I could be guaranteed that the next one would be like Jovie ;) I was pretty traumatised the first time around with Matilda and it took ages for me even to think about having my second. But once the decision was made it was fantastic... I almost wish they were closer together...sometimes ;)

Not on anything here either...I think I am due for my first AF though, I've got all sorts of cramps happening today & I broke out!! URgh I'm 33!! I don't deserve pimples LOL

fun isn't Christy...I'm 37, and I still break out. I starting breaking out when I was pregnant with Nathan...afterwards, I wasn't sure which word I hated more...mature age, or acne...lol. it does seemed to have settled down a little though.

I had the implant. and after 6mths demanded for it to be taken out. It messed with my head too much.

Chelsea wont drink form a sippy cup either.. just thinks its another toy :(

Thanks for your opinions girl....i appreciate it....im just forever have in my head im robbing my girl of life... when theres so many who are waiting. I did indeed want my kids to be close. and wouldnt change it for the world... i guess just wanted some reassurance i wasnt in the wrong and wat im doin is ok!

Of course it's okay Kim! Everything happens for a reason too dont forget!
I must be due for AF again too, for the last month it's like i'm 15 again! then i get FIL telling me i've been eating too much chocolate! oh well, he tells my 9mth pg SIL she's getting fat!!!!!!!
Ann, evie drinks better out of a straight cup than a sippy cup and i bought her a non-spill tommeetippee cup and found it was quite hard to suck out of so i pulled the anti-spill bit out of the spout so it just dribbles out, it makes it messier but at least she can drink!!
AJP i didnt realise thats what the mini-pill does - that doesnt appeal to me either. maybe we'll just stick with good ol' fashioned prayer LOL

KIM your definatly not inthe wrong, just because having kids close is not everyones cup of tea, doesnt mean that those who do are doing the wrong thing, jusst remember kids know no difference!!!! as long as there's love and the basics inlife thats all they need!!!!

Sophies hopeless with sippy cups as well, i even went and bought the sippy part for the advent bottle hoping that it is easier to use so we'll see how that goes.
we had swimming lessons today and sophies been a asleep for almost 2 1/2 hours!!!! she never sleeps that long in the arvo!!!!!

TARA thats what someone told me so hope it's the right info!!!!!!

I meant to say we'd have another one now but finances are a HUGE problem at the moment. our mortgage just went up to 2300 a month...so short of me selling my tiny self on the corner we have to tighten our bootstraps. I was only going to be able to have 4 months off work and i've had 8 so i cant complain. Also this is the lifestyle we are choosing. we want our new house and like having a new reliable car and also dh and i want me to be at home looking after evie (i'm sure you all know how i feel about DC by now!!). My SIL on the otherhand is going back to work fulltime not because she needs too financially but because they like having brand new everythings. there's nothing wrong with that - different strokes and all.
but thats my long winded reason for really needing to wait for another baby

We have a TOOTH!!!! Jovie's first tooth broke through this arvo! My head hurts now ;) I couldn't figure out why she was screaming for an hour & then I put my finger in her mouth & whammo... there's a tooth there that wasn't in there this morning.

Sippy cups are a big no go for Jovie as well atm.... I try everyday and I've tried different ones, but she's not interested.

Woohooo Jovie!!!!!

Yay Jovie!! At least you can put all the rough times down to something Christy - as well as her being unwell of course. Did u read that bit that I wrote before about the banana? Also the nurse that i go to to get evie weighed was talking about baby yogurt - i was thinking that maybe you could give Jovie some to combat the unsettling properties of antibiotics? But i can understand if you didnt want to throw a new food into the mix at the moment!!

Tara I would love yoghurt but I can't because of her diary intolerance :( I have picked up some nourishing floura which is a probiotic you can use on babies... hopefully that will help...

OMG CHRISTY we have a tooth as well!!!! though it had dissapeared back up by tonight!!!!!!!! we also....... wait for it...........

SOLID POO!!!!..... now that was/is weird!!!!

evies been up for an hour and a half already, she just cant stay asleep. poor baby

WOO HOO!!! That was what the up every 2 hours was about the last week!!! She slept from 7pm-4am and had a feed & went back to sleep until 6.30am :D one happy family today

Glad to hear the sleep has returned Christy!! We are still waiting on 1st toothy peg to make an appearance!!!

Whoo Hoo Jovie and whoo hoo for a good nights sleep makes ya feel so much better!!!

can the top teeth come quickly after the bottom ones? cos we had a few good days after he 2 bottom teeth came through but now we are back to waking in the night !

Isn't it great when you a)finally realise what has been bothering them, and b) get a good nights sleep? You start to feel like a human being again. Still no teeth through here yet, but dont think they are far away.

Aston was unsettled last night, he has a cold, I ummmed and ahhhhed about giving him some baby dimetapp stuff, and in the end gave it to him at 4.30 this morning. I should have just given it too him before he went to bed last night, or at least the first time I got up to him. hind sight is such a wonderful thing! I think I will give it to him b4 going to bed tonight....maybe we will all get a better nights sleep. and now because of my knee, I've thrown my back out, which makes getting him out of the cot oh so interesting...

Yay Jovie for your very first tooth!

BIG HUGS to all of you who had those epistiomies (or how ever you sppel it). Having one of those was one of my biggest fears, during pregnancy. In spite of my plans to have a vaginal waterbirth at home, after 30 hours of labour, and a nice ride in an ambulance (!!) i ended up with an emergency c-section - hence no vaginal birth, no epistomy. So i can't say i understand, cos i haven't experienced an epistomy, but i sure do sympathise.

I couldn't walk properly or bend for four months after the c-section and it took me five months before i could even look at the scar in the mirror. (Things went wrong in the c-section, it was a complicated one).

I am so impressed some of you are DTD, esp after the epistomy thing.

Kim, there is a lovely permaculture saying around "In the end you gotta do, what's right for you! Basically, it's great to ask people's opinions and make some informed decisions about stuff, but you are the person best placed to make a choice that is right for you. NO-one else has your exact set of circumstances, so no-one else can decide.

i think it's hard when other people make uninformed comments AFTER you've made your decision, esp strangers and family, cos by the time you've made your decision, YOU know you've turned yourself inside out, trying to make the best choice you can, but SOME PEOPLE can say such hurtful things. And ESPECIALLY when you're pregnant, morning sickness, feeling under par, it's SO HARD not to take what they say to heart and start doubting your decision.

i think it would be lovely to have two siblings close together in age.

I'm also at the age, where if i don't hurry up with a #2, i may hit menopause and then never have a chance again (my mother got the menopause at the age i am now). But we are struggling financially and support wise with just one, so that doesn't look very likely.

I feel so clucky when i look at teh beautiful knitted matinee jacket we had tiny bilby in, last xmas (it was cold that day). I feel upset, everyone seems to be doing scrapbooking of baby's precious memories, we haven't even got the photos printed, there is always an issue with ink, photo paper or SOMETHING. i get so frustrated, i just wanna go back to teh days of hand over the film cannister, adn come back to teh envelope of photos. WE have so many thousadnds of photos, i find it hard to pick a selection cos i know you will all suggest i put some on a cd and go to woolies etc to have some printed. DH would have a fit - i haven't colour corrected those etc!!!!!

i'm a bit consumed this morning, realising how having a daddy with a stuffed back is going to limit tiny bilby's life. Potential of losing his job, all the financial worries, he usually fixes everything - may not be able to do that anymore, the lack of romping (getting down on the floor to bubs, blowing raspberries on her tum, making funny animal noises) , playing horsies when she's a toddler, running around playing ball games at the park, with his 11yo and our bub, etc etc. My own back is taking a pounding, now i have to 100% of the lifting around here now. God i'm scared.

Gigi.. thank you so much for ur kind words. Im sorry to hear about DH....its hard when u realise the things he is going to miss out on (to a degree) all the daddy things....

We have sooo many photos too.... but they all go on to a website.. have u thought about doing that?

Gigi- sorry to hear about ur DHs back

Im with u on the films it would make it so much easier to drop it off and pick the pics up!! we got a whole lot of pics printed out when Emelia was newborn but havent since and its so hard to pic which ones u want printed out i want them all but it would cost way to much!!!

Tara how did she go last night?? Sorry I didn't see your post last night :( I hope she settled for you!

Kim & Gigi there are even some scrapbooking websites where you can do the whole thing online ;) I can't even seem to get our girls websites going atm...

AJP maybe she whispered teething words ;)

Vicky I'm freezing!!!!

Better go Jovie just woke up

MIL is the scrap-booker... she loooves doing it... started one for Chelsea and she will get it shortly after her first birthday. Then she will start another one!

Im just not creative enuf for that kinda thing!

had an unsettled night..i think its her teeth.
looking after my 5mth old nephew today....i really realise what a laid-back baby evie is...this is just getting ridiculous today. i am wit's end.
will post more later
sorry to hear bout your back vicky and about your husband/partner (? sorry) Gigi...i cant imagine the weight you're feeling

I spoke to soon we have a TOOTH too!!!!!

It hasnt cut the gum yet.. but theres a nice white line ready to pop up.... she has been grouchy (i thought just from the QLD trip), runny poo and always wingey! But now i see why.... however she has been sleeping fine at night...so no loss there. But today she has been up all of 2 hours in total since 8am... the rest been sleeping!

Teeth all round it seems... aren't our babies growing up?

Christy, I wish I could get warm - its just adds insult to injury - my back is so incredibly sore, and my body is freezing, that I feel like an icypole, I can't move properly!! I think I'm going to have to go to the physio, that will teach me for ignoring my knee - I should have gone to the doctor last week!

Gigi - Hugs hun, I hope things turn a corner for you soon. I know that feeling oh so well of everything being so overwhelming, and when am I gonna get a break... hang in there darlin...

think I'm going to have to ring DH and get him to come home early. I hate having to ask for help, even from him, i'm such an independant, I can do it all kind of girl, that when my body freezes up, and I HAVE to ask for help, I wait until I can no longer possibly bear the pain anymore...I think crying when I move is a pretty good indicator that I need to ask for help! arghhhhh

Thank god aston has been a dream, sniffly dream, but oh so good...

well our tooth has dissapeared back under the gum!!!:rolleyes: but we have solid poos's now that wierd!!

LOL AJP, Matilda's teeth went up & down all the time, infact Jovie's second tooth pushed through earlier today and was gone by the time we put her to bed :rolleyes: funny things... unfortunately when they come through the second time they are just as painful. :(

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Sorry to hear about your back Vicky. Do you use Voltaren on it? Not allowed to have that stuff when you're pregnant, but if you're not pregnant, that is a good muscle relaxant. I hope your dh is home soon to rub your back to make it nice and warm for you. Me telling you to have a warm bath right now is prolly not much help, with kidlets around, maybe when dh returns?

THings got worse for dh today. We got a letter that said "we will not modify your work environment like your doctor advises. You have to convince three doctors that you're totally recovered from the ruptured discs and can do exactly the same job again (all the heavy lifting) and unless you do that, you have no job" - well that's the short version. the sacking you get when the word "Sacking" is not used.

there's an ad on tv right now about employers thinking laterally in taking on personnel, they give an example of hiring a guy who's hurt his back and can't stand up to saw wood - how the govt give the company money to modify workplace and the employer therefore hires that man. It makes the corporate world seem like a nice place. What a fairy story. DH is finding that out, he is being dropped like a hot potato. A few months ago, they made him stand up at a high bench, fixing computers, for two weeks with no stool (one had gone missing) and that gave him awful leg and back aches. So i guess it's no surprise now he has ruptured discs, they are not interested in modifying the workplace. The crazy thing is, he can still do lots of highly technical work on computers sitting down. All they would have to do, is get someone else to do the call outs (visiting clients in homes and offices and teaching facilities) and have dh in the office, fixing computers and answering phone help desk enquiries (where you talk the customer thru the problem). He can still be very useful to them.

Just put tiny bilby to bed in her Kester Kover AIO, she's so tall now, she FULLY fits the length of the bassinet, hmm, will seriously have to consider moving her to the cot (which won't fit in our room). Hmmm, the letting go starts heh?

i'm thinking of trying baby led eating, maybe instead of the pureed food or maybe as well as the pureed food. I'm a bit unsure how to do it, must do some more reading.

Gigi...sorry bout that letter... hope it all works out for you eventually. How long is Bilby...doing well to still fit in a bassinette!!

Our tooth is nearly cut thru now.. i can only just feel it.. but Chels is loving it...pulls my finger into her mouth to feel..lol.

Had to keep Laura home from school today to help me with Aston, my back is so painful. She is so beautiful. Went to the physio, had some acupuncture, and it is feeling better, but will be a slow old process...sitting here with heat on it at the moment. DH had to get Aston for me in the night to feed him, as I couldn't get out of bed! Thank god the physio has freed it up a bit. Guess I will just have to slow down a bit! mmmmm...

Gigi, so sorry to hear about the letter. The new IR laws are making it so hard for so many people. I hope that something good happens soon - maybe he can look at getting a job with an internet provider, that gives tech advice over the phone. I know my provider does that, and they are fantastic, I don't know what I would do with out them.

The whole body issue thing is one that takes a long time to get your head around. I realised recently that I was actually grieving the loss of my pre baby body. (i have been doing some authentic self illustrated journal stuff - its been fantastic) Once I realised that, I was actually able to have a shift in my thought process, and start loving the body I have now, and instead of being appalled at my scars, are learning to celebrate them as evidence of my body having my babies...if that makes sense. anyway, its a process, and one that I have to work at, but are getting there. So I hear you Gigi... hugs.

Oh i feel really bad about evie not eating solids. i'm giving her pumpkin and potato everyday but she doesnt eat any of it. i'm worried ive left it too late to start and i dont really know what to do about that.
sorry about you're situation gigi, i can sympathise we are in a really difficult financial position too, and dh's work just gets worse and worse. we used to count on him getting at least 6 overtime shifts a fortnight now it's only 1! we'll be living on baked beans and newspaper soon!
Vicky I really hope you get some more relief with your back soon. I hear what you're saying about body issues, i'm still kinda struggling but feel like i've used 'having a baby' as an excuse not to start exercising and taking better care of myself for too long. plus starting getting bad endo cramps today so woo-hoo for me!

Thanks tara - it is feeling better, just have to be mindful of lifting and how I turn. its funny, because now my back doesnt hurt so much, I can feel my knee again! which is what started the whole stupid thing. About the food thing, my girlfriends little girl didn't start really eating food until she was 8mths old, so I know its hard, but try not to stress about it. Just keep offering it to her every day, and one day she may surprise you, and gobble it down. Aston (touchwood) has improved on the eating front. He tried yogurt today, and looked at me like I was trying to poison him, lol. think I'll put pear in with it next time.

I have to say, that while it much be great to have your own home, having been there, and down that, I am glad that we are renting. The whole financial pressure thing is a nightmare, and with interest rates continually climbing, it just makes it harder and harder for families to get by. By no means are we well off, there is no way we could paying a mortgage off at the moment. that one will have to wait until I have finished my degree and are working as a teacher, and then there are two incomes coming in. I think I'd better get off my soap box now, before I offend anyone's political sensibilities. :)

TARA sophie really only started eating last week, at 7 1/2 months!!!!! she just wasnt interested, then last thursday a light bulb popped on inher little head and she decided that food was good!!!!!!!, i just kept offering she would eat maybe a spoonfull and shut up shop!!!!!! it will happen i wouldnt stress at all....

VICKY glas the back is better bummer a bout the knee though!!!

i hear you both on the interst rates!!! luckily for us we still pay more than we need to and have that buffer for a few more rises. it sucks though they want us to populate but stuill expect us to survive a growing economy and interest rate rises. it seems they make consumables cheaper so we spend more which inturn hikes up the interest rate!!!!!!! we cant win
i feel i make a contribution to saving some money for us in a) been lucky enough to be able to breatfeed and b) i use MCN (modern cloth nappies) saving us i reckon $50 a week which over time adds up.
well enough of my rambling!!!!! TARA thought of you tonight when i contemplated a beer

I go back to the physio on Tuesday, and I will be talking to him about the knee. I may have to get a special belt that holds my hips and pelvis in place, this thing is a hang over from all those loose ligaments you get when your pregnant, that just got excerbated by my knee. on a positive though, it was really lovely having laura home with me today. we went and had hot chocolate, and bacon and eggs afterwards, and went to the book shop. She is such a beautiful daughter. She got her school report yesterday and was so disappointed in it bless her. She gave herself a harder time then I ever would have. so I have promised her that we would work together to improve her marks for the end of the year. Perfectionist she is....

AJP - i thank god that I can breast feed successfully, it does save heaps, pat on the back for MCN. having been there with the first two, I declined this time round.

AJP - thumbs up on the beer and i hear you re: populating and interest rates. LMAO i think that would be a great title for a country song. "now here's the november bellybelly crew with their latest hit 'populating and interest rates'.."

I can't remember whose crawling? sorry... but for those that are...did they start going backwards first? ASton has been doing that all day today. and getting sooooo cranky. lol. poor bubba, between not being able to go in the direction you want, and a nose that is running off his face, he's not in a very good mood at all.

Emelia isnt crawling yet but she seems to do that sometimes when she is trying to get up on her knees she will go backwards and she likes to go around in circles lol thats her way of getting places atm!!:)

poor Aston hope he gets better soon...how is ur back and knee today Vicki?

Yep Jovie is doing the rocking on all fours thing & then going backwards as well... very cute & very frustrating for them.

Yup Evie is doing the same thing Vicky, and she gets very frustrated too.
She goes from all fours up onto her tippy toes and then jumps her legs forward. she is only just starting to work out how to move her arms and thats opening a whole can of frustration worms!

Chelsea goes forward but buny hops. SO hands out then 'hops' her legs foward...hmm maybe more like a frog!!! :)

Had a scan today.. M2 is well... still the same sex :)
Decided we'd buy a cradle instead of cot and move Chelsea into a big bed in about 6 months after M2 is born. Cradle is huge and sooo nice!

so kim spill the beans!!!!1 WE WANNA KNOW!!!!!!!
glad all is well though!!!!