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She can usually put herself to sleep during the day. But the nights are still hard and we have to pat - sometimes for 2hrs! Its tempting to rock her but i think to myself I'm not doing her any favours. If she learns to sleep with me patting then i can keep it up when she gets bigger...
All the bubs in our mother's group are going through some sleep dilema as well. I wonder what's going on during this age..hmmm
Ann
Ann glad that you are having some success with Ella's sleep, bugger about not drinking from anythign other then you though. My girlfriend had the same problem when she was returnign to work. in the end it was her DH that had the success in getting her daughter to take the bottle. and it was just through persistence.
Taralee- I hear you on being tired. I think Aston has turned into a clock that has to chime on the hour. well thats how it felt last night!!!! God I hope he sleeps better tonight. I'm dead on my feet today. dh has been home, which has eased the load a bit.
AJP - aston quickly goes from sitting to rolling position, and promptly rolls all over the place. left him the other day to see how far he would go and he made it out the lounge and around the corner into the kitchen funny boy. He is also rocking on all fours, and springing backwards...lol... Loves the jolly jumper too.
Kim, I love your new sig photo. yay, chelsea on sitting. I've been thinking the same thing about hte saftey gates - that and getting an entertainment cabinent that has doors on it!!
Blanche how is the fly in fly out situation going? getting used to it, or does it still stink! hug
Hi gigi, hope tiny bilby is feeling better soon. all three of my kids have a cold at the moment, and DH complained of a sore throat this moprning. touch wood I havent got it, but I think my back and knee make up for that!!
So Christy, did you play up? or was your big night, being up and down to Jovie? I can't remember the last night I misbehaved....has to be way overdue I think!
Well my back is still sore, back to physio tomorrow. I doon't think the fact that I had to hold our 30 odd kg puppy on my lap this morning as we dashed off to the vet to see to his cut paw, helped. Never a dull moment in this house. He had to have a general so they could look at it, Dh is on his way to go and pick him up now. Poor darling. so its all sick and sore in this house at the moment! and just to add insult to injury its raining... oh joy. so the house looks like a laundromat!
Spoke too soon! Damn dont you hate that? Spent over 2.5hrs patting with her crying and grizzling...i ended up rocking :redface:
I knew is shouldnt have said anything in my post!!!!
Ann
didnt work out with the fly in fly out job, they had said that the longest stint ever would be 3 weeks then he gets up to the site and they say your doing 5 weeks 1 off, DP was furious,we decided it wasnt going to work so he quit he really didnt want too but he just couldnt be away tha long. luckly he has picked up another job ! i was pretty happy that he was home!! we decided if he gets another fly in fly out job it will have to be only 2 & 1
Thats great Blanche! that must be a load off your mind. my sil's dh works on the rigs and is out for 2 back for 1 and their first baby is due any day now, so i know she's going to find it so hard when he goes back..i really feel for her!
Dont you hate that Ann! it's always the way! Everytime I think 'hmm evie's been asleep awhile, i better check on her' she's awake like 2 minutes later...everytime without fail!
Hope tomorrow sees some relief for you Vicky. i'm dead on my feet today too, and ive been having 'monthly' cramps although thought af would come 2 weeks ago, but it's only my 2nd one so who knows...and i've never been regular...thanks to endo!
DH had to work at 1am last night and didnt get home til lunchtime today so of course he's buggered and i cant complain that i'm tired when i get to be at home and he's driving up to brisbane at all hours to make money for the family!
we mothers really are the unsung heroes arent we!
i just said to dh i need a day at a spa and he said 'i'll organise it as soon as this week's over' but i cant justify something like that when we're living on baked beans!! (not quite but u know)....so tempting though (the spa..not the beans!!!)
I meant to ask, also. Everyone seems to have been or are planning to go to sleep clinics. I dont want this to come out the wrong way but is that because you think there's something wrong or because you want solutions to sleep? Is it because you think baby should be sleeping through the night?
I'm just curious because I had never heard of sleep clinics until recently. Like I said I'm reading a really interesting book at the moment called Helping your Baby Sleep - Why gentle techniques work best. By Anni Gethin & Beth Macgregor I would really recommend it. Even though I was before - ive found im even more compassionate now when evie wont sleep or wakes up than before reading.
Not saying that everyones sleep problems can be cured by a book! im not having a go at anyone or anything, i'm just asking and informing YKWIM :)
A nice foot massage and back rub would be nice!!
Was going to go to sleep clinic as my health nurse said thats all that would fix Chelsea's sleeping habits.... WRONG!! All it took was you Tara to help me..LOL.. saved me time and money!
LOL...well a nice comment of gratitude was not expected of my post, but i'll take it! Isnt it ironic that Chelsea sleeps through the night and evie doesnt! ahh nevermind, i just see it as getting more cuddles in! ;)
Does seem a bit bizarre!!!
aarrhhh i've come in to vent
i was just reading the paper, birth notices, and read a very sad one about a lady who birthed a baby girl amd for unknown reasons she died that night, made me soo sad, so unfai. this was after reading on the front page of the paper about the government monitoring unborn babies at risk from the mums drug and alcohol abuse, why o why do the bad things always happen to those who least deserve it, im not saying anyone deerves it they dont but still........ my cousin in law would have been one of theose monitred mothers severla years back when she was pregnant both times and was drunk every day and took drugs, her kids are now paying the price with many problems and she took her own life...she's not the one left to pick up the peices and see the damage she's done.....eeerrrrraaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh makes me soo angry, my best friend loses her baby as well for no reason.
sorry guys this really tugs at my heart strings, ok enough from me.
Oh AJP i know exactly wat u mean its so very very sad, i cant explain how its makes me feel to hear about things like this. i was watching a show on the CI channel on fox and they were actually showing women that were pregnant smoking meth and prostituingand they didnt even give 2 *****s..one lady said oh this is my 6 pregnancy and they went on to say that all her babies have been taken away from her and so will the one she is carrying :angry: grrr it angers me so much i feel so sorry for ppl that cant concieve and that loose there bubs like ur b/f that deserve so much to have bubs that would care and love for them. then on the same show they went onto show a boy whos mum was an alcholic, drug addict (was drunk when she gave birth) and that damaged apart of his brain, made him really psycho and hard to settle the adoptive mum had to actually get on top of him to hold him down:( he has to live with this for the rest of his life.
wow i better stop now before i get to angry!
blanchie and ajp - i have three young cousins who are all showing signs, in varying ways of drug addiction during inutero. Delayed speech, delayed physical development in one, and all sorts of allergies, and other problems. Environmentally even now, the drug problems are still there with their parents, they get moved so often, never staying long enough in one area to feel settled in kindy, school etc. Their education and sense of well being is so shattered. It's so sad.
AJP - Sophie saying MUM - how priceless! that's just beautiful
LUUA - i can just imagine our two together on a play mat, just sitting and doing the conductor arms at each other.
that stuff about the dh working away - that would be horrible, makes me feel for all the defense force partners, the truckies families, the miners, etc. Would be like being a single mum, so tough.
It's so bizarre having had my dh home for three weeks now, with his wrecked back. It's nice having him here, but he's in pain all the time and the reality of being sacked hasn't really hit him yet. I think if he'd done something wrong, he would get it. But to be sacked for a medical problem is too much for him to comprehend right now. So strange not to see him driving and doing all his normal stuff.
AJP - I hear your frustation hun. It is something I feel everytime I speak to my sister, her children are no longer with her - her eldest two are with their father, which has been a fantastic thing for them, and her youngest has recently been put into foster care due to being physically abused by her mother's fiance (who she is still marrying!!!) and then the other day she rang me to ask about miscarrying!! for obvious reasons I don't have a lot to do with her, I end up sick with anger, frustration, and so upset that I can't FIX everything. as I always say, you need a licence to have a dog, yet anyone can have a kid. I think i"ll move on before I get on my soap box and can't get off!!!
gigi - this must be such a hard time for you and DH. I really hope the universe smiles on you both soon. hug
Taralee - I'd would love to be able to just go somewhere that was all about ME. god love your DH for saying go to you. and if by some miracle of miracles you can swing it financially then DO IT! sometimes we have to feed our souls, especially when we give so much of ourselves continually. This week I'm planning to get out my paints and paint some pictures for our lounge room - thats what I do to feed my soul. going to give the kids a canvas each too, and let them paint a picture for their rooms...
Blanche - great that DH was able to pick up another job, and that it is at home. I know the money situation is probably not as good as you would like it to be, but somehow you just make what you have fit. Necessity is the mother of invention, and have been incredibly creative over the years when I had to stretch $$$ so far. For that matter, I'm still being creative...lol. We watched the "ice" programs over the weekend too Blanche. I just sat there gobsmacked.
Well its pouring with rain here - which is going to make school holidays interesting! I want to go out and put some christmas presents on layby because toyworld are having a huge sale with 6month layby, but the weather is makng me rethink going anywhere. got an appointment at 3pm for the physio, which will hopefully bring some relief to my back. I had a lovely hot bath last night which helped.
Nathan just came in and said lets stay at home... funny boy. think we might.
BTW I Forgot to post this - blame it on being up for an hour in the night! Aston decided that 1am was a good time to be awake. I went in numerous times, offered him the breast - refused. cuddle -refused. pat his bottom - wiggle around. in and out I went for an hour. I had to go to the toilet, and when I came back DH was in there with him, he had him in his arms. I walked in and aston GRINNED at me! well, I had to turn around because I nearly laughed out loud. little minx. by this time an hour had past, so I thought I would see if he would have the boobie now. and he did, and he finally went back to sleep..... arghhhh!!!!!
I think I will have a look out for that book Taralee.
so checky arnt they vicky!!! as frustrating as they can be at times, a simple smile melts your heart!!!!
tahnks all for listening last night, it just ****s me, seeing my two little cousins who will struggle all their lives just because there mum was selfish breaks my heart. her cause of death is still pending a coroners report,but in my heart of hearts i know she took her own life, she doesnt see the problems the family now have to deal with.
I watched those ice shows too on CI over the weekend, dh kept glancing in my direction as i had to try not to sob out loud when i saw those pregnant women on drugs. i also saw on the news a few weeks ago a prostitute on drugs who was pg and they said that men didnt care that she was pg they still slept with her. oh it makes me sick to my stomach and so so angry. I was sitting reading that book last night and was reading about how important mother-baby connections are and how these interactions help the brain to develop and i was thinking about everything i do with evie and how much everyone on this forum cares about those little things that their baby does and how we obviously all want the best for our babies and want everything to be right, and even though we all know we make mistakes and probably will admit that we'd do some things differently given the chance, that there are so many babies and children who have nothing. no contact, no love, no warmth. they dont ask to be brought into this world and when they are its an uphill struggle from day one. when evie wakes up in the night now i feel compassionate and heart-broken that she needs to feel secure. i want to do everything to make her feel okay again and i think about these abandoned babies..crying for a cuddle and someone to make them feel okay and they dont get it and probably never will.
I am a religious person and this is really one thing that makes me really really question my faith.i just cant understand it and dont know if i really want to...maybe we're not supposed to
enough from me, i cant see through the tears :(
TARA reading your post and watching sophie roll around the floor has bought tears to my eyes!
AJP - its so difficult to see mums who seem to be oblivious of how they are affecting their kids. Their complete innocence looking up at their mums swearing, smoking and doing *who* knows what - i've gotta say it makes me frustrated.
Vicky - I'd be a walking zombie after a night like that. GO TO BED!
Gigi - How can DH be sacked for a medical problem? LOL at our two bubs sitting on a play mat with airplane arms. I sometimes think Ella is a more "observant" baby. She likes to watch how things work before she'll go pick it up. The highlight of her day is going for walks she loves to watch the ducks or people in cafes. A nurse said to me she probably wont be an athletic child, she'll probably be stronger at languages and arts - like DH.
Tara - we might go to Dymocks and take a look at the book too. Doesnt hurt to have more ideas and opinions. :)
Kim - what did Tara suggest that helped with your sleep problem?
Ella ate so much for dinner last night i was scared. I said to DH we have to stop. She loves pumpkin spinach ricotta and had so much and still ate her fruit for desert! This morning she had her regular 3 tablespoons of apple and half a weetbix and a quarter of my toast! Does anyone know if there's any danger in bubs eating too much? Or do we give them what they want?
Ann
Wow Ann Ella i a big eater... we are flat out with 4 bottles and some fruits....let alone a variety like you have!! Tara helped me get Chelsea into a routine, which ment bed by 8pm. So bath, bottle then bed every night. She was going to bed at 11pm each night and waking early. Once we got the routine going she started sleeping properly. Only all was going great til we started FDC and now her carer has thrown the routine out the door with bed times. I drop her off at 8am... meaning her last feed should be around 8pm. Last night i picked her up to be told her had her 3rd bottle at 7pm.. meaning for us.. her last feed for the night wouldnt be until 11pm... and she let her sleep until 7pm too... so each care day is getting worse for us. I so wanna say something. but id say it to nasty. But i dunno... we wre the ones that have to struggle with it KWIM.... its not the carer. Any how... sleep thru the day is getting better...nights are ok as well... but wakes at 1.30am everyday. not sure if she is cold or hungry...but will generally put herself back to sleep no problems.
Ann - its sounds like Ella is weaning herself. She has cotton onto this whole food idea, and loving it by the sound of it. I would love to go to bed, but its school holidays, so I have three of them at home today - and its still raining!!!!!
AJP - yep a smile can take away a multitude of things - even frustration at gettng up for the 160000th time. and a laugh - well that can make me want to get the sun for him if that was what he desired.
KIm I can't beleive you have only 16 weeks left! How quick has it gone!!! before you know it will be hearing about the antics of both Chelsea and her little.... lol....brother...hmmm...maybe...
rain rain go away come again another day. can you tell I'm getting a little stir crazy??
LOL i hate the rain cos it sends my cats feral... but makes Chels sleep!!!
Maybe Laura can play mummy while u take a nap Vicky!!??
16 weeks and counting... it has gone extremley fast and i dunno where the time has gone....im dreading the stories ill be telling about Chels and her lil SIBLING. And im sooo damn close to spilling the beans... but love having a giggle at all the guesses!
lol. kim, well its keeping us entertained. I know Laura would play mummy for me, but because my back has been playing up for days now, she has already been doing a lot for me, so I think I will just plug along, as you do...going to be interesting at the physio this afternoon, nathan will be there too, and he hates sitting still for very long. god I hope he behaves. I'll have to bribe him I think
Kim, I would definately say something to your carer. when i was a preschool teacher i was given a list of instructions for every child and followed them because that WAS MY JOB!!! tell her you need her to be in this routine so as not to throw everything out too much when the new baby comes. seriously, chelsea will handle the new bubba a lot better if she has something familiar that she knows is going to happen every day. you're paying her to do a job and part of that is doing what you ask. if it's too hard for her to do then she needs to tell you so you can perhaps start making variations to it so it can be applied before the baby comes.
thats my 2 cents...and i'll give it to you for nothing!
Yeah thanks Tara... my thoughts exactly... she is being paid to look after my child under my instructions. Theres no way Chels sleeps thru every feed time...hence making all her feeds so late. Its possible, but unlikely. I want to say it nicely... but when ever i say something it always seems to come out rudely. I just want her in a routine again for home and in care...i have 4 months to get it down pat..i can see myself being bald if i dont!!
well, parents would just say things to me matter-of-factly because they expected me to take it all on board. so maybe you could write it down and say to her 'look, ive written everything down because i'm really trying to get organised for the new baby and i dont want to be worried that chelsea will feel too put out. we've moved house recently too so thats a lot of change for chels to go through. if you could try and follow this i'd really appreciate it'. dont make out like she hasnt been doing the right thing so far, maybe she just doesnt realise how important it is to you
i admit now that having a baby i realise much more how important things are. not that i didnt before but i didnt really see the big deal if a baby didnt go sleep on time (not that i'd do it on purpose!)
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