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ohhh tanties...fun fun fun. I had aston in an areoplane hold yesterday because he didnt want to leave the toy shop... walked past a lady with a pregnant belly, and heard her say to her friend...I've got all that to look forward too. lol
Have to admit though, that after Laura's tantrums, astons are NOTHING... and I have to stop myself from laughing - I'm like...is that the best you can do?
Yep, tonty city here too. its a full on leg jiggle, throw self to the floor.
The teeth are the problem, she just loses it for nothing, so so frustrating. we took her to Smileez today, which is an indoor play ground thingy, and she LOVED it. she was crawling up a giant vinyl ramp that can i just say, no other kid was climbing up, then she'd wiggle herself backwards down it..until she discovered the slide. wow. ben and i were like ' i didnt think she could do any of this!! no wonder she's bored at home'
anyways, will chat more later. i just had a monster headache slam into my frontal lobe so i better go :(
:hug: Tara, you are doing it rough atm.
LOL Vicky, I'm the same... sometimes Jovie is banging her head & I have a little giggle... is that all? ;)
tara - rich and I are continually amazed by aston. He does things, and because I have a point of reference with laura and nathan - I think "I'm sure he shouldn't be doing this yet!" i think he is definately my most "forward" child - and laura was always ahead of herself and still is... lots and lots of stimulation and challenges keeps them entertained, and less likely to chuck it. its challenging for us the parents - but it definately keeps life interesting.
Despite all the grizzles yesterday she actually slept through last night, well, till 4 then in our bed til 7.
I've worked out the anti-nausea tablets are making me get really bad headaches and feel a bit woozy so i better steer clear of them for the mo :(
A question for everyone; do you guys still find it hard to get things done around the house? i feel like i am still struggling like when she was a tiny baby. like, i still wait til she's asleep to do just about everything. and this was even well before i was pg.
as much as a help as it is living with IL's, and trust me i dont know how i would get thru this m/s without them, i think it also makes it hard to because i cant just put her down while i try and do things. because someone will always pick her up or leave a door open or something. it's like its only now that i've worked out i really need to encourage her to play by herself a bit.
like, what do you guys do when you need to have a shower/go to the toilet/cook dinner etc
i dont know if i'm making it hard on myself, being lazy or just normal :dunno:
Nah Jovie's been whinging HEAPS lately. Everytime I try to do anything. I started doing things with her on the ground & playing & then once she's had 10-15 minutes of me playing with her I will slowly move away & hope that I can get something like dinner accomplished. Or I put Jovie in the high chair with finger foods for morning tea & arvo tea & prepare dinner with her next to me or sit down with a cup of coffee.... bliss.
Ann - i disagree with your gay mate, took me a while (like a few years) but i have found a man who is not into porn, so they do exist. He appreciates nice looking women but doesn't need to look at porn - and it's not just words, in seven years, and heaps of access cos he works in IT, where lots of clients have heaps of porn on their hard drives, it's just not his thing, he considers it "cheating on your partner".
Bilby also cruises furniture, then lets go, and i call it her "surfing", the arms come up and she is shrieking with delight - look at me, i 'm balancing!!! then will rock her hips adn do some dancing before KERPLOP on her bot. so cute. all preparation for walking i'm sure.
Taralee, that is amazing that Evie can play independently at the toddler's play cafe thingo, wow - that sounds pretty darn advanced, go Evie!!!
Nelly - good luck with the travel, hope it goes well for you hon
All this talk about tantrums - we get screaming at many decibels for daring to put bilby in the stroller or sometimes it's the car seat. TOok me FIVE goes today at a shopping centre (calming her down inbetween) to get into the stroller again - i just had to ignore her and get it over with ASAP and start moving, then she stopped - so i felt like a monster, but we coudln't stay ALL DAY
in the darn food court!!!
still having enormous problems getting bilby to bed at night - well early morning. On pillows in the playpen still the only winner there. I thought you weren't meant to put pillows in the cot, so i'm prolly doing the wrong thing, but we're at our wits end with this!!!
i try and get stuff done when she's asleep, gee it's hard.
so blanche don't worry about "getting behind" - you are feeling unwell with preg plus have another bub - you are not lazy. Feeling unwell saps your energy and motivation. Are your IL's nice? Are you going back to your house, or your own house (like, is The End in sight?) or are you with IL's indefinately? I'm glad you didn't have all those kids (day of funeral) on your own.
I went and bought an armful of childproof things and a gate today, sick of hearing dh say "i'll get around to it, hardware stores are the best places to buy them" - but then not actually make it happen. So kmart baby section did the job for me, will experiment with them this weekend, and go buy more of the ones that suit our furniture/cupboards etc the best. DH is the best person for saying YES to everything you ask, but what he actually DOES is another matter! he's so easy going, wants to please everyone - great qualities - but i am past it, if the action doesn't meet the words, i don't wanna hear it dh!!!!!
Just sold $400 of mainly 2nd hand nappies in nb and small, and some new medium MCN that didn't suit us, to a woman interstate, so now i can do a bit of retail therapy and have a few massages - yeh!!! It was sad to sell them, all the nb and small sizes bilby can't fit into anymore, i really had hoped we got to keep them for a sibling, so sending off that big box, it was more than postage, it was letting go of having another baby for me. Despite yucko delivery of bilby when so much went wrong, i STILL would love, in the bottom of my heart, to have another bub. I literally tear up reading posts of people who have just had their babies and post nb pics. Maybe it's just BF hormones and my diet of iced coffee and not much else! i am so buzzed but it's all that is keeping me going.
hey hey girls!!!!!
well we are here and the flight was excellent Jake was a really really good little man and was looking out the window pointing at the other planes and not a cry or tear and no ear infection thankfully!!
bed time however is hell my bil is down trying to get him to sleep now for me but I am about to go back and take my turn. My sister is good and her little girl is an absolute princess!!!!!!
YAY!!! I was worried about Jake in the plane. I'm so glad he did well!!!
Gigi... I would give a pillow & she slept well. I use one with Jovie when we are co-sleeping. When she comes into bed with me she bf's and then pops her head on the pillow & falls asleep. If there is no pillow for her she takes ages to fall asleep. I gratefully put a pillow there for her!
im baccckkkkkk!!!!
did you miss me!!!!!!!!!!!!
BBL have just read the past 5 pages and will do personals later, i do however have a beach babe!! sophie looovvvved the beach
Welcome back Jols!!!!!! of course we missed you...good to hear Sophie loved the beach, we were going to take Emelia down today but it is just too hot even to be at the beach LOL if that makes sense so we are having a fun day outside in her pool and that where she is in some shade!
hows everyone elses weekend going????????
Glad you had a good time away Jols. We haven't yet been able to get to the beach this holidays...its been bloody raining!!
I've got a hangover ...poor me... now I remember why I don't drink! feeling rather seedy today. It was fun last night...but gees the recovery sucks! thank god aston is sleeping through now! I didn't get to bed til 2am!
YAY Jols!! Glad you had a good time!
sooooo hot today! blech! i know what you mean blanche, it was too hot to go to the pool next door too, plus theres not a whole lot of shade there either.
m/s rampant this weekend :( but i am telling myself it will be over next weekend.
not much going on here...
My poor baby!!!!! she didnt eat a lot of lunch so i thought she'd eat a lot of dinner. well she didnt want any of it so i just gave her some custard, which she ate but as soon as we took her out of the chair, everything and i mean EVERYTHING came up. including fruit from morning tea....8 hours ago!
she's gone to sleep happily enough though...but the poor little thing. i hope its just teeth.
Thats my exciting news too, she's going to sleep on her own now! i just give her a quick cuddle and put her down, and as long as i stand where she can see me she goes off to sleep. i'll work towards moving closer to the door.
i'm obviously not expecting her to sleep thru tonight :(
poor bubba tara, hopefully the one spew got the yucky bugs out!!!
man its so hard to remembe what everyine talked about for the past 4 days, so i do apoligies if i miss someone/somehting!!
tara i hope the MS eases off soon :(
vicky iohope the rain goes away soon so the kids can go out and play!!
kim chin up charlie your doing super!!
gig dont worry about the food yet! the main thing is that shes eating!
blanche cute pic of emilia she looks sooo different!\
nelly hope your enjoying your holiday and have fun meeting Ann
ann have fun meeting nelly!!!!!!
christy too cute that jovie puts her head an sleeps on your pillow!
now for us!!
had a great few days away at rosebud on the beach, very hot the first two days over 40 degrees but we coped fine, sophie loooooooved the beach shed run into the water, fell over heaps drank heaps of salt water ate heaps of sand but it was great!
drank too much over the 4 days!!! didnt get tippsy once but just drank throught the days, boys went fishing (hunting and gathering as they say) fun was had by all!!
Hope Evie is alright poor little muffin :(
AJP - i love that pic...she does look different she has her hair up think thats it, to see the pic bigger its in Emelia pics!!!
mmmmmmm where is everyone?? did i scare you all away :(
man i am so sick today. i took one of my tablets and it completely knocked me out so thats a no-go obviously. i cant wait for this to be over :(
Im here too...just having one of them days...Chelsea is driving me nuts. Wont keep her nappy on...keeps taking it off....and feed time is a chore. She wont eat...HELP.
I know kids wont let themselves starve...but she wont eat anything i give her. Its all 'Yuck' and chucks it on the floor and then climbs out of her high chair OR stands up and gets on top of the chair tray thingy..i call it table dancing...funny but so annoying and not to mention so dangerous.
I guess she is drinking water so its a start. But im at my wits end :(
I'm here... been out for most of the day. Went shopping, Jovie isn't keen on shopping atm. She wants to climb out of the pram & run away LOL its cute what she does though.
Kim, we've had a few days where Jovie won't eat anything I try to feed her, but will try to get into anything I eat. So I've sat down within reach of food she can have & she's wound up eating. It took me 2 days of no solids crossing her lips before I figured that one out LOL. BUT all in all, she's much better than Matilda. Matilda does behavioural startvation, meaning she won't eat as a control mechinism. Cheeky bugga.
Jovie is running around the house atm literally with a fruit strap chatting to the dogs who are following her & hoping she drops it.
Im here too
Not having such a great day, Emelia has been whinging all day...dont know why...doing my head in :( monday night dinner at my parents tonight so hopefully she will be happy playing with her cousins?!
Emelia has to feed herself lately and refuses to let me near her with a spoon/fork, thinks she is a big girl and can do it all by herself!! she hates been in her high chair to long and refuses to eat so i give in and let her walk around with her food, u dont want to see my floor at the end of the day!!
i have an appt at the hospital tomorrow morning..hours drive and its at 9.25am *yawn*!!!! thankgod my mum is coming to help look after Emelia, no doubt she will try run away. going shopping afterwards so that will be good..reatail therapy! put the pram and change table on laybuy the other day cant wait to set the nursery up!
im blabbering on........!!!
and the boundary testing begins... having all this new found freedom to move means that's all they want to do ALL the time! which is a pain in the bum, when all you want to do is get through lunch/get them dressed/change their nappy/go shopping! some of the things I have done to redirect those little challenges (and believe me they don't always work) are let Aston feed himself. He has been doing that for a couple of months now, and in the last week or so has wanted to use a fork, so he has been. He sits at the table with us to have breakfast/lunch/ and most of the time dinner, and enjoys the whole social occasion of it I think. He will only eat what we are having now. Getting dressed after he has had bath is preluded with a nudie run around for a while, then I lay him down, which he protests about until I start singing him nursery ryhmes like tinkle little star, and the little green frog. I do the same thing with nappy changing, and do it on the floor now. we had a struggle for a couple of weeks, and I just kept saying the same thing, the more you wiggle around and protest the longer its gonna take baby boy... and now he has a little whinge, but doesn't wiggle around and carry on...he seems to have figured out that if I lay here, she does it quicker and its all over and I can go back to what I was doing.
Its funny because with Laura I remember being absolutlely mortified when she chucked a tantrum in public, and wished the earth would open up and swallow me whole... with Aston I pick him up, and put him under may arm in an areoplane hold and continue on my way. I had to do that today actually, and a woman commented to me, well that's one way to get around, and I just said, yep - works for me, and didn't even feel anything, no moritification to be felt at all... just a confident mummy who knew what she was doing worked. Seems that on my journey of motherhood, I have actually learnt a few things along the way....and even I'm surprised about that!!
We went to Australia Zoo today, laura, Nathan, aston and I, and it was brilliant. had so much fun. Aston is at such a fantastic age to look at wonder at everything. We spent at least 20mins watching the otters chase each other around in and out of the water. He thought it was hysterical. he patted any animal he could, from kangaroos, to lambs, calves, and was not particularly impressed that he couldn't get into the tiger cubs!
hope all goes well at your hospital appointment Blanche, enjoy the retail therapy after.
Tara :hugs: is your morning sickness worse this time around? btw are you going to find out what colour you are having?
Christy - do you need the monkey harness back hun, happy to send it to you. Its been brilliant, and I definately will get one.
Kim - as easy as it is for me to say this...try and relax. because she will not starve herself. Tomorrow is a new day, and yes she is testting how far she can push her mother for sure...just try not to let her know that she is getting a reaction, because as the saying goes, attention is attention no matter how you get it, misbehaving, or doing something cute. :hugs:
Kim, evie hasnt eaten for the last few days either so i just keep giving her milk and water instead. then this afternoon she grabbed a piece of bread straight out of the bag from nanny and at it like she hadnt eaten in weeks. i also shovelled in some pureed apple in between bread bites. then for dinner i just made her a toasted cheese sandwich, she ate a bit of it so at least thats something.
Vicky - i think it's made worse this time around by also having to run around after evie. getting her meals and changing nappies is a killer...but i have also thrown up just from opening a window...go figure.
i've kinda been panicking lately about having a boy. i know how that sounds, trust me. and i dont mean any offence to any of your lovely boys, but i think i'm kinda worried about how i will bond, since i have had issues with men my whole life...dh is the only one who i dont freeze up around when he comes too close to me. anyways, thats by the by. i know this is going to sound even worse, and i dont know if i mentioned this before but truth be told, i didnt want to be pg. when that test went positive i cried for hours. i didnt feel ready, i felt like i was cheating evie out of something and i didnt feel like we were ready for another responsibility, i have gotten more and more excited about it and now i'm really happy and feel so lucky..but i still feel like i will be a bit disappointed if its a boy and its really eating me up inside :(
you know what tara i feel exactly the same as you, feel the same about men too.......
Thanks Vicky...Chelsea did however eat tea...garlic chicken kievs...dunno if kids can ave garlic but she eats it like its gold!!
Tara...hugs babe... i was the same as you in regards to the gender...but the other way round....to this day i still feel robbed i had another girl....but id not change Jasmine for the world. But i cried and had no idea how i was *stuck* with another girl. Im still trying to bond with her. i love her to bits and the idea she is a girl has grown on me. Ive spoken to Blanche about when she found out her lil tike was a boy and how i reacted (BTW Blanche...u didnt change ur siggy cos of wat i said did u?? Oh i hope not). its hard to accept a gender (well for me it was ans still is) but as long as bub is healthy you will find excitement. We are all here for you. Disappointment is common according to my mental chick...but we cant decide what we have...we just have preferances and we cant change that once life has been formed and delivered. I know ive probably made no sense or have been of any help...but one thing i know is...how u feel.
Are you finding out the sex?
oh tara... i so know what you are feeling hun. DH is the first man I have felt "safe" with. As I have mentioned before, I was sexually abused as a child, and it has created massive issues for me, that I have had to work through. When I had Nathan I had NO idea what to do with this little person. It horrified me. It took me 18 months to bond with him, I loved him, but I just didn't understand him, and the fact that he was male...ughhh. He had all these bits that I didn't even like looking at let alone cleaning. When he was about 18months old, I finally reconciled myself to stop trying to figure out what was the mystery of malehood, and starting enjoying him. It was him that taught me how to play with abandonment, to "pretend" for hours on end as we role played different characters, from batman and robin, to bob and wendy. He was, and still is to a certain degree, so in NEED of me, and that was hard to adapt to. After having Laura, who was this independant little soul from the get go, to having this highly needy baby who lost the plot if he couldn't see me, and if he could have gotten inside my skin he would have! The biggest thing I have learnt from Nathan is that not all males are horrible, and that I have this amazing opportunity to help him be an insightful, caring, empathetic, sensitive man - someone who will treat women with respect, love and value them. The woman that lands him will be a lucky lady indeed. Nathan paved the way for me to embrace Aston's maleness right from the start. When I found out what I was having when I was pregnant with Aston, I was disappointed initially. But I can honestly say that I wouldn't have it any other way. Laura has enough estoregen running through her viens to keep me in girly moments for the rest of my life. As hard as it may be to understand, I really do believe that we are never given more then we can deal with, and are given situations that we need to learn lessons from... What will be will be hun. :hugs:
Thanks Vicky, i was never abused but definately have dad issues that mainly stem from anger, and me really feeling like i had to look out for myself and never ever depend on a man. so much so that now if ben and i have a fight i will just shut off and tell myself that i dont need him. years of therapy couldnt teach me what i learnt for myself...anyways. what you wrote made total sense to me, thanks
Thanks Kim, yeah i want to find out so that i can "prepare" myself (for want of a better word).
This is going to sound so so so terrible guys, so please dont judge, but when i realised that i could have a boy i thought to myself 'great i didnt even want to get pg and now i have to worry about that?!'
i feel so terrible about it and i know i cant really help what i feel...but i feel like if we had waited and tried to plan the next pg i couldve maybe timed having a girl...anyways, i guess i wont really know for a while anyway...is there any way they can tell at the 12 week scan?
No thanks Vicky :P Jovie is so funny, soooo unlike Matilda. She stops & turns to see where I am, than if I'm not looking at her she runs back to me and yells to get my attention & then runs away again giggling. No interest in getting too far away.
tara no judgement here hun... i think I have said before, only one of my children was "planned" and that was Nathan... as hard as it seems right now, you will get through it. and you will have all of us to champion you on the journey.
Christy - as long as your sure, and the minute that changes please let me know. It has been a life saver for me. Aston doesn't look around at all...just keeps going. Where he think he is going I have no idea but with the monkey on, its only as far as the tail! lol
thanks guys :grouphug:
totally off the topic, but has anyone noticed baby's gums bleeding where the tooth is coming through? that molar of evies went back down under the gum yesterday and then today when we were in the pool i noticed blood coming out of her mouth and when i looked in it was where the molar was coming back through. just a little dot of it
:hugs: Tara...im pretty sure 12wks is to early to see the sex, thats wat ive been told anyways
Kim - nah i didnt change my siggy cos of wat u told me, silly thing kept coming up no more than 500 characters blah blah but it was all the same as i had it before i had just changed the pic! so i hate to shorten things and unbold the writing to get it to fit!
i really want/need to get one of those harness things for Emelia she is terrible she will just keep running!! DP wont let me get one he thinks they are cruel but he doesnt have to chase her all the way down the foreshore!!!
is it time for a new thread ? we are a chatty bunch!!
Taralee - i'm glad you felt comfy enough in this thread to "let it all out" what you're feeling.
You know just like we all do, how much you are judged the minute you become pregnant.
But you also know, we are here for each other, and we're not about to judge you hon.
i have had problems bonding with my bilby and initially when i found out she was a she (amniocentesis results told me XX), i felt disappointed - mainly cos i kept thinking, "I won't be able to keep her safe, girls are so vulnerable in this society" and i haven't been able to dress her in pink, can't stop thinking, how can i protect her (from being a girl).
I really wanted to have a boy, so i wouldn't have to worry about my child so much - child abuse is on my mind alot, the statistics are so scarey, i studied and started work in that field and well, a little knowledge can be dangerous i guess, cos know i'm scared to death for any little child i meet.
i think the healthiest thing you can do, for your own peace of mind, is what you've started to do already, talk about it. DOn't let it fester hon. If no-one in real life will listen, talk to us, no-one here is going to put you down for feeling the way you do.
i think there's the things mums say in public and the things mums REALLY think. Often what we think and need to say, is not socially acceptable. We're not perfect, having a baby doesn't turn you into a saint!!! So hon, you can let it all hang out and be real with us.
Trust issues is a big thing with me too. Seven years with dh and i STILL physically jump when he comes in a room i'm in. I STILL can't let him touch my neck. Physical scars from childhood heal, emotional ones take longer. Makes me damm sure my bilby is not going to be put thru what i was put thru. Would rather be a single parent than put her thru that - rationally i don't have to worry, cos dh is a gentle soul, he's never yelled at me in seven years, not the type, but i still have this fear that i can't shake, cos i find it hard to trust anyone.
We now have a safety gate and things to lock the drawers and one thing to keep two cupboard door handles closed. Off to buy more of the ones that work the best.
we were up til 5am with bilby last night. Poor dh, gets up for work at 6.30am!
Sorry I missed heaps of posts last night... maybe it was the glass of red.
Tara - I can sort of understand, except I went the other way entirely. I was desperate for a boy, both times I was seriously disappointed by the whole thing... with Matilda it took ages to bond because I was so desperate for a boy. My stems from my dad as well as abuse. I wanted to right the wrong, ykwim? I wanted to teach my boys how to treat a woman properly & I didn't want my girls to go through what I went through abuse-wise.
Gigi, with Matilda I went through so many locks etc... she broke heaps of them & now can get them off :rolleyes: but they are good for Jovie.
Pregnancy with a toddler... sheer hell. LOL I should say with an active toddler. Matilda was 18 months when I got pregnant & she was running. She was able to get out of the straps in the pram & would just take off. It was hell when I was 9 months pregnant.... and 5 weeks LOL
Sleep issues in this house, they are taking turns again. Jovie slept through actually, until 5am and Matilda got up 3 times.
Teething Hell.
Molars are coming up and I finally fell asleep at 6.30am. Got up at 7.30 to go to work. I'm a zombie
New thread time
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