arrhhh thats right!! so what will he be doing? working from home?
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arrhhh thats right!! so what will he be doing? working from home?
Yep just on our 2 websites (Beyond Belly and another i cant name until i pay for MPM but its a full MCN site)...and a SAHD again!
arrhh awesome!!
Ok im FURIUOS.......then F@&King nappies still never arrived..i cancelled today for nothing...:(
On another note...Chelsea's immunisation payment has landed.....now i best get her jabbed :(
We are going to buy her a few practical things not junky toys with the money.
glad you mentioned that Kim. I just checked my account and aston's has been paid too! :cheer:
:( Kim that truely sucks. I hate it when I cancel plans to wait for something that doesn't show... its happened and I guess will be happening more in the coming months with renos done pre-selling.
Life... blah. Jovie was up from 10:45pm until after DH got home at midnight (he went to a movie with a friend... once in a blue moon for him). He took over & I went to sleep... she's fine now. She didn't sleep well during the day yesterday, only 30 minutes or so, maybe that was it.
what an absolute ****, kim. roll on 15th for you then!!
thought it was it for me last night, oh my goodness, i hope it doesnt get much more painful than that!!!
Kim - that sounds like interesting work. Both DH and I are in the website and digital media industry too. What does Craig do?
AJP - how are you feeling? wouldnt it be funny if you had puggles on Valentines day? We might have sprod on Easter! Still need a dating scan to confirm when its due.
Vicky - hugs honey. DHs are all the same arent they. Mine sounds like yours. He would say the same thing. Dont let her go outside! as if that's possible.
Ella's getting over the ulcers in her mouth. Ate a huge egg and beans breakfast and even had her toast which would have hurt. She woke up every 2hrs from 11.30 - 7.30 though so we're shattered.
Me? feeling OK. Friend of mine is going to get a *belly belt* for me. Its suppose to support the bubs and help lift it off the bladder. She swears by it so we'll give it a try.
We're off to a 2 yo birhday today. bring on the cake
Ann
kim thats so *****!!! not fair :(
christy did jovie end up sleeping all night?
tara ooooohhhh sounds like things are moving!!!
ann glad ellas feeling better!!! are you sure your not due in march? not april? :think:
blah i feel sick :(
went out today and priced beds etc for sophie! not cheap!!
:( Jols! If you lived around the corner you could have Jovie's junior bed because we are moving & will move her onto the bottom bunk...
Chelsea's bed was $1000 and we got it down to $790 when Bev Marzz was having a sale....shame she wont sleep in it still!!
Ann, Craig is a Systems Engineer
Gosh im slept all day my head is killing. Going out tonight thogh to a friends...weekend ritual!
bummer christy :( but thanks for the offer :)!!!
kim we've found one with a trundle, all up including mattress will cost around $1000, seems so much for a damm bed!!! looking at white!!
omg! 1000 bucks for a bed for a child!!! no way! having said that its been a long time since I brought a bed for a small person.... eek!
i know vicky it really is disgusting!! i founds some bunks at harvey norman that can be split, the buttom one with trundle for $1000 so go figure!!!
i also admit im a little picky!! :redface: only becasue i want and need it to last ! must also have a bed end, hate when the doona falls off!
We got a bunk for Matilda & Jovie from SuperAmart, i was sceptical about the price... but it was super sturdy in the shop & the sides were taller than the average bunk so we bought it & with 2 mattresses it was $1000 all up, so I can understand, but that was because I got super high tech mattresses. If I had gotten the foam one they recommended it would have been $600 all up.
great price chrsity!! im like you like tospend m,ore on mattresses
I was going to mention Super AMart too Christy, i saw a trundle bed there for $399, obviously didnt include the mattresses but i thought that was an alright price. we're not looking at beds at the moment tho! lol one thing at a time!!!
Why is this whole 'waiting' thing so much harder the second time around? i am so paranoid about every little feeling i get lol everytime i go to the toilet i am looking for the 'show' (i hate that word! gross) and when i go to the toilet at night in the dark i'm scared i'll miss it and then i won't get much warning that the baby's coming! lol oh man, i would kill for a wine right about now!!!!!
went to a baby shower today, which was good, got me all excited!
Did anyone, or will anyone (jols, ann, kim) have a baby shower for subsequent babies? i kinda feel bad that i had one for evie but not for this bubba...my SIL suggested a welcome to the world party so everyone can visit all at once when it's actually here. what did u guys do? i don't want a lot of visitors in hospital, i kinda want that to be family time, mainly so evie can still spend time with me and get used to the new addition.
Have a good night kim, hope it cures all that ails you
feeling better jols?
raining up your way Vicky? hope you don't get flooded in - if it's anything like the rain we've had here!
how;s everyone else's weekend shaping up?
tara no second baby shower here, but may do the come over and welcome thing like you mentioned!!
feeling better just had chicken ribs with ranch dressing for tea and now stuffing face with salt and vinegar chips!!
Love those salt and vinegar chippies. I ate a box of cheezles. :(
Tara - same as Jols. We'll have people over to see the new bubs.
Dont actually know when the baby is due but the online ovulator calculator says March - but well find out soon.
Ann
Tara we did the welcome to the world party for Jovie & it was lovely, a few weeks after she was born.
cool ann jsut that you've said your due in april!!! not march!!
just stuffed some cream filled vanilla cake with chocolate icing into my mouth!!
Tara no baby showers here for Chelsea nor Jasmine...gotta have friends in order to have one of them... :(
i had a baby shower both times, the last one was a suprise one that my mum organised
Kim u have lots off friends its just we are spread out all over australia!!!:hug:
I read the LAST page of the previous thread
and the FIRST page of this thread
so i'm still a bit behind, but thought that was better than nothing (to attempt to TRY and catch up).
TARALEE - have you had your bub yet?
bilby can only say two words - Mumma and Dadda - so don't stress that Evie is not saying lots of words. Just like Vicky said, even our low word count bubbas, have "other ways" of getting their needs across. Bilby is very expressive with her eyes, nods alot, and is great at pointing.
KIMBAZ - congrats on #3 if i haven't said it before (i'm confused if i did or not, cos seeing #3 in your sig was not a surprise to me).
I didn't have a baby shower for bilby.
I went to a Blessingway for a friend last Saturday night. We made a bead bracelet for her, all tied a piece of red yarn around our wrists, that we will only cut off, once her bub is out and safe, painted a sunflower in henna, on her lovely round 35 week preg belly, and each told her a beautiful thing we came to realise, when we were pregnant. She desperately needs a maternity bra, so we all chipped in to give her a lingerie shop voucher.
My friend coudln't stop crying most of the night, when she wasn't laughing (it was such a hoot to henna her belly) - it was a lovely, candlelit night with more herbal tea than i've ever drunk before. first night i've been out until 2am since bilby came along.
AJP - sorry to hear about the gastro - that really is the pits i'll bet
CHRISTY - what are all these acronyms? What is AHD and BTHT or something like that?
What you said about putting baby in extra childcare, just to get stuff done - i feel like i am getting NOTHING done, not even having meals, barely getting to go to the loo, with ONE baby around. But i put that down to PND - me not "doing it right".
US - bilby cut her first round of molars while in hospy.
we were there for two weeks (used our modern cloth nappies the entire time).
it was horrible, disempowering, intimidating, put us even further backwards, if that is at all possible.
The hospy WRITTEN policy is pro-breastfeeding for example. I was told to cut our feeds to TWO a day (from 12) - which was so stressful to cut so drastically (in one day). I have been since told by a private Lactation Consultant, that what i was told, was not helpful, she recommends cutting one feed at a time, not ten!! There policy says, feeding up to two years and beyond is desirable, but in real life, they wanted me to wean her at 19 months.
I was told to give bilby cow's milk in a cup, cos there is supposedly no nutrition in my BM - again, totally untrue.
So many things i was told to do, watched over to make sure i did them, yelled at if i didn't.
Many things about bilby's day to day care were taken away from me - even dumb little things like we don't give her sugar biscuits. The nurses insisted on giving her sugary biscuits when i was not in bilby's presence. I felt so underminded. That is a tiny example, but her personal safety upset me way more. SHe burnt her thumb on a halogen lamp that was down low in a public area - that place is NOT toddler proof and with NO toddler gates anywhere, in an old place with lots of 90 degree corners, i was at my wits end trying to keep track of her all the time.
The food was dreadful, many mealtimes, there was nothing suitable for me to give bilby. (the toddler food might have hot chilli in it for example). So i was getting it in the neck for how LITTLE she ate, in an environment where i couldn't control the food she got.
Since we have been home, i have gradually increased her breastfeeds up to 4 - 6 a day (the first few days, i half expected someone official to pop up and yell at me for feeding her), and surprise surprise, she is eating more solids now.
i wish i had never gone to that PND clinic, at least a week out of there, i am still regaining some confidence in how i parent.
bilby is still traumatised from how she was treated in that place, lots of clingy behaviour and acting out. I am a bit in shock that i ever asked to go there - and how anti breastfeeding that place is, actually, quite anti-children really, not to mention de-empowering of mothers. Even if they thought i was a total loser, these people didn't even consult my dh on decisions affecting bilby.
Written policy of an organisation can be WORLDS apart from the day to day practice of the staff - that's what i learnt.
I don't actually believe there IS help for PND. If the place i went to, is the only place available in my city for women with PND, i'd rather chew off my own toenails than go there again.
i was so sleep deprived and exhausted when i went there, i just went with the flow, agreed to try new things - but there was no case management, no plans, no goals, no working together with us the parents. Two weeks there, i ddin't get seen ONCE for a PND counselling session of any kind.
what a joke. I think i was very patient - two weeks in an institution with three shifts of nurses, no privacy, never knowing what you were doing each day (most days, nothing), it was a LONG time. and very stressful. Like being a fish in a bowl, being watched, even innocuous things being recorded. i cannot tell you how glad i am to be out of there. At least i was there voluntarily, and not on any drugs. I cannot imagine how much worse it was be for the other women i met, lovely women who were just having a hard time of it.
in the end, i was so intimidated, i was frightened TO leave. SOme good friends helped me leave.
Oh gigi :comfort: I'm so sorry that it was such a horrible experience. to change perspective, in leaving you have taken back your own personal power. and that is no more small thing to dismiss. Can I ask why you aren't on medication? I only ask, because having suffered PTSD and anxiety and depression I know that the only way that I was able to come through the other side was with medication. It didn't "fix" me - that came from all the hard work I did in counselling, but it did put my head in a place that was more receptive to change, and the hard work that went with it. If you don't want to take medication, fair enough, there are some great alternative therapies.Have you heard of tapping and EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique)? google it, there is a great website with instructions. For me it was a turning point. It really made a difference in how I "view" the world. Having lived in a state of hypervigelence for most of my life, learning to tap, enabled me to help stop the feelings of anxiety that at times threatened to send me over the edge. I think also understanding the physiological reasons as to why I react in certain ways to certain situations helped tremendously.
Your are right - there is no HELP for PND - it has to come from within you. There is support - but the hard work comes from you.
I hope that nothing I have said has affronted you, or offended you in anyway - that is not my intent. Please receive what I have said as I meant it, with love and understanding. I understand the dark place hun, and have been there, many times. I just want to share with you the way I found a light at the end of the tunnel, that wasnt an oncoming train. :hug:
Oh Gigi im so so sorry you had to go through all that. Im blown away by what you ave written and i cant find the words. I hope that you and your family can get back in track and look forward *Hugs*
gig i dont know what to say either who would have thought a place like that could be so bad for someone, not good, just wanting to give you a big :hug: take time to get back to a good place
just made some pumpkin soup and OMG it was awesome!!!!
sophie is supposed to be sleeping but having more fun banging around in her cot and blowing raspberries!!
lol jols. Aston does that, jumps around in the cot, chatting away, eventually lies down and goes to sleep. He is much better now. thank god. had a much better night last night.... now if just DH would chill the f@ck out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man oh man - he is driving me up the wall. and he will probably be 10 times worse once he has the op!
maybe pop him into astons cot :lol:
good idea, with a blankie and a dummy!!!
yep adn tell him not a peep is to be heard!!
well I just hit the metophrical wall... knew it was comign, but isnt it strange the things that finally tip the balance. nathan accidently dropped a glass he was drying, rich started moaning, I stood in the doorway to stop aston from coming in, aston shuts the door on my fingers!!!!!!!! and I screamed. and cursed and screamed some more, and left the house. went and stood up by a field, to calm down. oh dear.
so how was the field Vicky? Did it give you a good chance for a think?
BTW, nothing you said offended me, honest! i'm not on medication cos no-one at that clinic asked me ANYTHING about how i felt, or about PND, to even get to first base about medication. I am not against it, it just never came up.
thanks for your kind words everyone, there is SO much more i could say, that would REALLY have you gasping (as in, OMG, how could that have happened in such a place?) but i won't bore you with even MORE stuff, i didn't spill the worst stuff cos i didn't want to depress you.
TaraLee?? you know your silence is making me think . . . . maybe today????
THinking of you and wishing you the best labour vibes possible hon!:hug:
I really hope it all goes well for you and your new little person, plus big sis and your dh. But mainly you, you're doing all the work!!
oh gigi... I am sitting here crying reading that. I HATE those places!! I can't believe it! URGH what is the goal of that sort of place?? Urgh, blah, groan, and moan...
I just want you to know I think you are amazing. You know Bilby better than ANYONE could. You went there & knew that what they were doing wasn't right for you, you knew that dropping those breastfeeds wouldn't be right, you knew that they way they handled you & her wasn't right. THAT's amazing!
I went to a centre when Matilda was 10 weeks old, and it was very similar. I went there for breastfeeding & sleeping issues, and I left there with breastfeeding & sleeping issues, but I found out while I was there what I liked and knew. I know my child better than those "specialists" do.
You know Bilby so much better than they do, and you know what is right for her. Thats amazing.
:hug:
Vicky... :hug: good luck getting through that op. You have held it together well so far, its okay to go out & scream & get cranky... its fine :)
Sorry Gigi! no baby yet. but my goodness, i am sitting here with my mouth on the floor. i am absolutely gobsmacked and in tears over what you went through. i am so so sorry that you endured something like that...i honestly can't believe that somewhere like that exists..especially in this country, with all we know about PND and breastfeeding and even sleep issues today.
I hope you can just write it all off as a bad experience and continue on your parenting journey. put it down as a feather in your cap as an example of how you don't want to be. maybe your experience will benefit someone else who's thinking about going or something. what i'm trying to say is please don't lose faith in yourself or what you're doing. do what you need to do and what makes you and bilby happy. how's things with DH? how did he react to your hospital stay?
Well today I got emergency care for Jovie as my FDC wasn't available, but then as I left work early to pick her up, she fell asleep, so the carer said she'd call me when Jovie wakes up. So now I'm doing the loads of washing, cleaning & getting things done.... scary
Wow...your getting things done Christy!!
Tomorrow is Jasmines first day at FDC with Chelsea..im sooo nervous for her.
Chelsea has been in bed since 2pm..and only just woke!
I have also set up a poll for 'What am i having' i couldnt wait any longer!! :p
hey girls, just wanted to let you know that blanche is in hospital with Jack, He has bronchilitis. Poor little chicken. She said that he is in a little box and can't give him cuddles, so when he is upset she can't pick him up, and it is really knocking him around. :crying:
Oh no....get better soon Jack..thinking of you Blanche *hugs*